View Full Version : WANTED the WORLDS "BEST Bootlace......HELP
Sourdough
04-17-2008, 12:19 AM
OK.....Price is no consideration.......what is the best boot lace in the whole world...???? or best type of cord/rope/string/wire.....to make boot lace.
Alpine_Sapper
04-17-2008, 12:20 AM
OK.....Price is no consideration.......what is the best boot lace in the whole world...???? or best type of cord/rope/string/wire.....to make boot lace.
550 cord :cool:
550 cord :cool:
550 cord. What is up Hopeak?
canid
04-17-2008, 01:19 AM
it's a test, right? he asking to see if we're paying attention...
SGTD00m
04-17-2008, 05:15 AM
I disagree 550 cord is so uncomfortable as a bootlace however in a survival situation it is handy to have. If your just wearing boots for work a nice comfortable lace that stays tied easily is better.
look here you can find what every u want http://www.shoelacesexpress.com/roundbraided.asp
Basicly round ones dont cut into your feet like flat one but flat ones stay tied better.
Tony uk
04-17-2008, 06:49 AM
Cant you just use the ones that come with the boots ?
crashdive123
04-17-2008, 07:20 AM
For me it's 550 cord.
I like a good French needlepoint myself. But, hey, that's just me.
http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/images/8/8c/Lace-11.jpg
Sourdough
04-17-2008, 11:51 AM
I am serious. I want to know the best boot lace. I have 31 pairs of hiking Boots, and half of them have had the bootlaces borrowed. Some laces outlast the boots and some laces are dead in a few weeks. I think most laces are really different colored 550 cord, and it will last two to three weeks. Industrial laces that come on $300.00 or more logging boots can sometimes be quite good.
I think one overlooked factor is the "EYES" can have rough or sharp edges, and then the best lases won't last a week. Speed lace eyes are lace shredders.
I think the answer is but buy 100' of some type of 3/16" cord or rope with high load strength and make my own laces.
The laces on my Bunny Boots is 10 years old and shows no sign of wear.
My ancient Vasque Sundowners are showing some wear on the laces and I've worn them enough that I need new soles put on the boots. But even showing some wear they are still in very good condition. The boots have speed lacers on them.
Sourdough
04-17-2008, 02:18 PM
My ancient Vasque Sundowners are showing some wear on the laces and I've worn them enough that I need new soles put on the boots. But even showing some wear they are still in very good condition. The boots have speed lacers on them.
Those came with a flat redish' brown lace, correct? mine did and it has held up well.
klkak
04-17-2008, 02:30 PM
years ago in the military I traded for a pair of boots worn by flight crews. I wore those boots every day for a little over a year. When they woreout I went back to standard issue boots. in a few months a lace broke so I took the laces off the flight boots and put them on. When those boots woreout and I got another pair I did the same thing. Im guessing I used those laces for about 5 or 6 yrs. Last year I bought a pair of Danner boots that had the same type laces. Lets see how long these last.
Hopeak - Yes. I bought a new pair last year and they have the same type of lace in them. A bit short than the older pair.
If I bust a lace I'll remove the strands from some 550 as other have mentioned and use the outer sheath for a replacement.
BraggSurvivor
04-17-2008, 04:37 PM
I have leather laces in my Red Wing boots that I wear on my bike and are 10 years old. I use Dubbin on my boots and laces twice a year.
Similar to these:
http://www.redwingshoes.com/productdetails.aspx?prodid=1071
MCBushbaby
04-18-2008, 02:25 AM
The laces on my Scarpa SL M3's are going strong. The plastic nubbins on the end have broken off thanks to my housemate's cats chewing but otherwise the shoelaces are great. Best laces IMHO are highly, and tightly, braided round.
Sourdough
04-18-2008, 03:19 PM
I disagree 550 cord is so uncomfortable as a bootlace however in a survival situation it is handy to have. If your just wearing boots for work a nice comfortable lace that stays tied easily is better.
look here you can find what every u want http://www.shoelacesexpress.com/roundbraided.asp
Basicly round ones don't cut into your feet like flat one but flat ones stay tied better.
Thank you, SGTDOOm, I sent an E-mail to Shoelace Express. And they replied that there "KEVLAR" lace is their toughest, strongest, longest lasting.
So, lacking any new feedback I thunk I'll order three pair of the 100" Kevlar laces and cut them to length. I should be able to get four or six out of each pair.
Thank you All for your thoughts........:)
Stony
04-18-2008, 04:15 PM
well, as said previouse in other posts:
the best lace is the one you have at hand when you need one.
be it baler twine, snare wire, what have you...
Or French needlepoint.:rolleyes:
SGTD00m
04-18-2008, 04:43 PM
Hopeak glad i could help
years ago in the military I traded for a pair of boots worn by flight crews. I wore those boots every day for a little over a year. When they woreout I went back to standard issue boots. in a few months a lace broke so I took the laces off the flight boots and put them on. When those boots woreout and I got another pair I did the same thing. Im guessing I used those laces for about 5 or 6 yrs. Last year I bought a pair of Danner boots that had the same type laces. Lets see how long these last.
in the last few years the started giving us flight folks Nomex laces for our boots ( your tax dollars at work )not sure that's what u had in those but they fray a little but never break.
Sourdough
04-18-2008, 05:32 PM
well, as said previouse in other posts:
the best lace is the one you have at hand when you need one.
be it baler twine, snare wire, what have you...
Stony......I agree.......And it is springtime in the north country, and a young mans fancy turns to: no not that, (No women around here)......It turns to getting the top 10 starters from the boot collection tuned-up, cleaned, inspected, and water-proofed ....(Kind of a joke).....:)
hoosierarcher
04-19-2008, 05:26 PM
I double lace my boots with 550 paracord. This allows me to use one set as cordage in a survival situation.
crashdive123
04-19-2008, 08:01 PM
The only draw back I have experienced with using 550 cord for my boot laces (I leave the strands in for future use if needed) is that I need to double knot them to keep from coming untied. Since I double knot most things anyway, it's no big deal for me.
Oh, sure. Wait until you get that next hot foot. THEN we'll see if it's a big deal or knot. Get it? Knot, not? I'll be playing the 8:00 show in the lounge folks.
mbarnatl
04-19-2008, 11:17 PM
Oh, sure. Wait until you get that next hot foot. THEN we'll see if it's a big deal or knot. Get it? Knot, not? I'll be playing the 8:00 show in the lounge folks.
That was knot funny!:D
crashdive123
04-20-2008, 06:36 AM
You guys just tie me up laughing. Stomachs all in knots.
This thread got me to thinking (terribly dangerous thing to do). If there is a "best" all around boot lace is there a best all around way to tie those laces? Well, as it turns out there is.
http://www.hitthetrail.com/boot_lacing.php
And, by golly, just about anything you ever wanted to know about laces (and a whole bunch you don't even care about):
http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/
Sourdough
04-26-2008, 08:41 PM
This thread got me to thinking (terribly dangerous thing to do). If there is a "best" all around boot lace is there a best all around way to tie those laces? Well, as it turns out there is.
http://www.hitthetrail.com/boot_lacing.php
And, by golly, just about anything you ever wanted to know about laces (and a whole bunch you don't even care about):
http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/
And the reason you have been hoarding this "Top secret" valuable information...........:rolleyes: Thank you, and what else are you keeping from us.......:)
The secret ways to invest in the stock market and ALWAYS make money. It's a sure fire deal, Hopeak. I can guarantee a 22 percent return on your money!! As luck would have it, I have just a couple of more openings for some special investors that really want to make some money. If you have just $100k to invest........:D
Actually, I did some searching after you posted the thread. :o
Sourdough
04-26-2008, 09:03 PM
There is a lot to learn about foot care, toe nail length, etc. Some just assume that everyone knows. Like packing heavy loads "DOWN" the mountain, (Two boned'out Dall Sheep, or even one unboned Dall Sheep). The next day your big toe turns black, not good. There should be a thread about just feet.
I opened one about boots some time back and I said in the post that I think your feet are one of the most important tools you take into the woods. If you have a serious foot problem you have a serious problem. I'm with you.
Just hauling a pack down a really nice incline can give you a good dose of grief if your boots are tied loose enough so your foot slips inside the boot. One of the things I've always tried to do is keep my boots tied snug but adjust the laces through the day. After an hour or so, I retie my boots to accommodate my feet swelling. After another couple of hours I do the same.
Sourdough
04-27-2008, 08:37 AM
One of the biggest problems mountain (Sheep) hunting clients have is that there toe nails are to long. And the effect of a long steep descent is like hitting the end of the toe nail with a soft blow hammer. The hunters try to get in shape for the hunt by running, but it just does not prepare them for the down hill.
I have had hunters cut the front out of their very expensive hiking boots in the field with a knife.
I suggest hunters bring a old pair of running shoes, (or sneakers if you remember them). They can use the sneakers around camp, and also to cross some rivers and streams. And if their feet get chewed-up sometimes they can still hunt in sneakers, but the sharp rocks will shread them quickly.
Rough'out leather is much more resistant to cuts from sharp rocks, I don't know why.
Take a look at the Keene Newport. I carry a pair with me for just the reasons you mention. They are a lot tougher than sneakers, don't mind the water, dry pretty quickly and are pretty darned comfortable. You won't climb up or down in them but they work like a champ if you have to cross water and get you out of your boots around camp. And they are machine washable when you get home.
http://www.backcountry.com/store/KEN0002/KEEN-Newport-H2-Sandal-Mens.html
Sourdough
04-27-2008, 01:22 PM
Rick, I'll bet you a two pack of Twinkie's, that you don't guess what boots most experienced Alaska Hunting Guides wear 95% of the time in the field. Well, I am not made of twinkie's so you only get three guesses.
1. Rubber Knee High Boots
2. Sneakers
3. Sandals
Sourdough
04-27-2008, 02:42 PM
Well, fairly close but no twinkie.
#1.) Ankle fit hip boots, w/ airbob soles
#2.) Burley (which is a knee high ankle fit with air Bob soles)
OK, OK, I owe you one twinkie with a small bite out of it.
So that's what they call those. I have a pair of Burley boots but had never heard that name. That's what I meant by the rubber knee high boots. Those are pretty popular around here for concrete work and farm work.
Sourdough
04-27-2008, 03:56 PM
"BURLEY" is a brand name for the LaCrosse boot, co., which went to H*ll when they moved manufacturing over seas. The Lacrosse "BIG CHIEF" was the best hip boot made, but most likely not anymore.
OK you get ONE whole single Twinkie, with no bite marks.
Sourdough
04-27-2008, 04:00 PM
My point was that Cabela's and everyone markets a Stout heavy "Leather" boot called "THE ALASKA GUIDE BOOT" but most guides wear hip boots.
I take marketing names with a grain of salt. It's a bit like naming cars. Just designed to conjure up some image the manufacturer wants you to equate to their product.
RobertRogers
04-27-2008, 04:38 PM
While you could use five-fifty, I suggest only in a pinch. Leather laces work well, though they stretch with time.
warrigal
04-27-2008, 06:48 PM
I use 3mm elrid cord. Same stuff abseiling rope is made of but only 3mm thick as opposed to 11mm. I also carry hanks of th 2mm stuff bright colours and a 37kg breaking strain.
I have had Elrid go through three pairs of daily wear boots untill the speed laces got sharp then the lasted 10 days.
Carl
Sarge47
04-27-2008, 10:18 PM
I've been passing this thread by, but finally got around to looking at it. At 1st I wasn't going to answer, but then thought: Why knot?:rolleyes:
What kind/type of laces will be dependent on several factors. What type of work/stress will the boots have to deal with. What type of terrain will the boots be exposed to every day. What about weather conditions? I don't "hoof it" near as much of most of you so 550 cord would work just fine for me. If I was in Hopeak's boots, however, I'd do just exactly what he's doing. I'm confident that 550 cord is great, but there's always better & stronger in everything.:cool:
texasboy
04-28-2008, 09:26 AM
I use 550 cord on mine.
bulrush
04-28-2008, 10:20 AM
After I had the same pair of laces for 2-3 years, the laces usually broke. But I did have a pair of leather laces, and those never broke. My vote is for solid leather laces. I don't know if you can even buy them anymore.
Try a leather store, not a variety store.
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