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kyratshooter
05-15-2014, 05:53 PM
I know that along with the plastic pistol packers there is also a faction here that use their AR platforms as general hunting and plinking rifles.

Does anyone favor the AK as a brush gun?

Wildthang
05-15-2014, 06:00 PM
I have always favored the AR over the AK for any use!

hunter63
05-15-2014, 06:15 PM
I guess I'm just gonna sit back and see what happens.....I can't think of any good reason for using one.

Old Professor
05-15-2014, 07:00 PM
I agree with Hunter63!

Hellraiser
05-15-2014, 08:04 PM
Just my personal historical perspective... my AK accuracy in the woods has always been less than "hunting-satisfactory". However... it is hard to beat for absolute medium-distance personal defense.

natertot
05-15-2014, 08:49 PM
Okay, for the smartest gun guy on here to bring this up, he is up to something. My question is why? Just because you can? I think there are much better options, both gun and caliber wise.

point man
05-15-2014, 08:52 PM
As a "woods gun" the break down capability of the AR platform gives it major advantages especially when paired with cartridges that have better terminal ballistics than the 556.


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hunter63
05-15-2014, 08:53 PM
Okay, for the smartest gun guy on here to bring this up, he is up to something. My question is why? Just because you can? I think there are much better options, both gun and caliber wise.

Ya think?.....LOL.....I'll play along...
I think the bait has been cast.......but that is just me.

randyt
05-15-2014, 08:57 PM
I don't favor the AK but a sks is a different story. I know some fellas that hunt with their AKs, does the job.

natertot
05-15-2014, 09:00 PM
I always thought a Mini-14 in .308 would be cool stuff. Good reliable platform with low maintenance and a cartridge with a punch.

randyt
05-15-2014, 09:02 PM
How about a m-14 in .308?

natertot
05-15-2014, 09:10 PM
How about a m-14 in .308?

Shot them in the Navy, they were pretty cool. None on the civilian side. Closest thing is the M-1A. I was referencing the Mini-14 for it's size. I don't know if you have ever play with the M-1A or the M-14, but they are big and heavy as h3!!. If you could get closer to the weight and size of the Mini-14 using the same kind of action design and chambered in .308, one would have a heck of a bush rifle. :rambo:

randyt
05-15-2014, 09:16 PM
I figured after beefing up a mini-14 to take a .308 it would be close to weight of a m-14. I have never owned or handled a mini-14 much but I do have a m-14. Yup it's is heavy LOL.

hunter63
05-15-2014, 09:17 PM
Hummm .a spray and pray hunting rifle?.......LOL....What are you hunting?...in the bush.....

randyt
05-15-2014, 09:19 PM
No, no, no not a spray and pray but rather a load on Sunday and shoot all week rifle LOL

natertot
05-15-2014, 09:25 PM
Hummm .a spray and pray hunting rifle?.......LOL....What are you hunting?...in the bush.....

Spray and pray? The mini-14 is much more accurate and less troublesome than your standard AR at the same price. The only reason AR's excelled as a favorite is the fact you can customize it with everything under the sun. An accurate and reliable semi auto .223 under $650 whereas you'd have to spend another $400-500 to get the same results out of an AR. Plus, AR's have too many parts which means more to go wrong. So if one could get all the goodness of a mini-14 and have the punch of a .30cal, why pass it up? As far as what could you hunt for with it, I was thinking deer, coyote, boar, bear.

hunter63
05-15-2014, 09:28 PM
Why not the Mini 30?...that's a 7.62 X39 or back to the AK round.

natertot
05-15-2014, 09:35 PM
Why not the Mini 30?...that's a 7.62 X39 or back to the AK round.

That's exactly why not.

hunter63
05-15-2014, 09:40 PM
That's what this thread was supposed to be about.....hummmm seem to be working......

Old Professor
05-16-2014, 08:52 AM
I have a Ruger Frontier in .308. I think it is an excellent woods rifle- short, light and extremely accurate. I really do not care for semi auto rifles for woods work. Too much tendency to waste ammo. I used to hunt with a friend whose motto was "Lead in the Air Gets Them!" You could always tell where he was hunting because he always emptied the magazine when he shot at game. I had to quit using a repeater and go to a single shot because his attitude was rubbing off on me!

kyratshooter
05-16-2014, 10:11 AM
Then the general consensus would be;

Any bolt action rifle at any weight is a woods gun
The AR is a woods gun in its .223 poodle shooter round/30 shot mag
The marlin 336, 30-30 is a woods gun at 7 pounds
The 1894 Winchester 30-30 is a woods gun at 6.9 pounds
The Ruger mini-30 might be a woods gun at 6.7 pounds, when shooting a round almost a twin to the 30-30
The SKS is a woods gun shooting the same round as the mini-30 but weighing 8.8 pounds.

but

The AK, at 6.8 pounds and shooting the same round is NOT a woods gun.

What if you put some camo tape on it?

:hammer:

Wildthang
05-16-2014, 12:49 PM
The 2 best " woods " guns I have ever owned was a Winchester 30/30, and a Ruger Semi auto .44 mag! But if I had to choose between and AK and an AR, it would definately be the AR.

point man
05-16-2014, 01:42 PM
Ak at 6.8 lbs? Never! I've fired many real Kalashnikov's and not a single one came under 8lbs. Standard profile that is.

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Now. An AR with 14.5" or shorter barrel in 6.8 spc II. That's a dandy woods gun. All the ballistics and then some of a .30 Winchester


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hunter63
05-16-2014, 02:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Vpuh6q2O_c


Any gun can be a woods gun, particularly if it's all you have.
I don't own AK47, only shot one once at a fun back field shoot, shooting a 6 gal bucket on a steel fence post little over 100 yds.

Did hit it, couple of times.... but can't say I was impressed on my shooting...or was it the rifle?
Did not seem like a hunting rifle, but made me want to load up a "clip" (LOL yeah I said it on purpose) level it at the bucket and "let'er rip......arh, arh, arh.

The being said I was hitting the bucket with an SKS w/scope, which "felt' like a hunting rifle more than the AK.

The ammo being the same, 7.62 X 39 seems like a 30-30 almost, and can be had in soft nose for hunting, so yeah hunting round?

Friend used an AR but in like 6.8 or -6.5 something....but dropped down to 5 round magazine as the 20 -30 round mag kept catching on brush....besides the fact he had made a one shot kill......that leaves carrying around 29 more rounds......so load on Monday and shoot all month.

Then there is the...."That looks like a machine gun, you must be a terrorist".....perception.....and the fact you have to shoot it with a face mask or towel wrapped around your head.

I'll stick to my SS, ML, and bolt guns, lever actions, pumps and hunting style auto loaders........But would use an AK or and AR if I needed to.

kyratshooter
05-16-2014, 04:18 PM
Sorry Point Man but the AKM comes in at 6.5 pounds empty. I looked it up and also checked shipping weights from several dealers.

But I must say I am surprised that the modern military platforms are less acceptable to this group as "sporting rifles" based simply on the presence of pistol grips and general shape of the firearm.

The SKS in 7.62x39 is, the AK is not.

The Mini 14, .223 is, but the AR is not.

The M1A is but the SVD in .308 is not.

Just rambling thoughts on the nature of the world....

randyt
05-16-2014, 06:33 PM
I have both but prefer the sks over the ak because it shoulders up better for me or at least it seems. I also don't like detachable magazines. So if not a sks, a Winchester lever action is alright too as is the marlin.

point man
05-16-2014, 06:38 PM
I my self am not a bolt only snob, I'm a lover of all guns. Tall ones, short ones, skinny ones, fat ones.

Never weighed an AK but all seemed tremendously heavier than my service rifles. Kind of like an artillery piece


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hunter63
05-17-2014, 11:55 AM
So what exactly IS a woods gun?....Is it like a woods bumming gun?....or Buschcraft gun?.....Plinker?

I can picture some one walking thru the woods blasting away at all and any thing that look like it need shooting.
(bottles and cans are fun till you buy the land and have to clean up the mess.....)

I can see small animals ducking for cover as the latest tactical gears is unleashed on them....

I can see a large part of the population that are afraid of bears, cougars, (2 and 4 legged) and other walking up right threats......

I can see the newest, or oldest addition, that has been added to the collection, by all the cool expensive knives (some knives cost more that the $50 SS shot gun pictured) and pouches and walking sticks that are pictured with them.

So what say you?

Seniorman
05-17-2014, 12:32 PM
This man likes the AK for "woods duty."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJBQmMM2UIc

S.M.

hunter63
05-17-2014, 01:24 PM
I rest my case........

kyratshooter
05-17-2014, 02:08 PM
Now fellas, that man did not say a word about being in the woods. He is in his "compound". Said so in the first sentence.

He is also notorious for his spray and pray antics with anything he gets his hands on that has more then one round in a magazine.

He has been known to rip both rounds out of a double barrel shotgun at the same time and try the same soda can test with a Marlin lever gun!

I suppose what one considers acceptable is determined by their own impulse controls.

Perhaps we should start a support group for spray and pray ammo burners.

Of course I don't have to attend, I seldom spray, and can stop any time I want too!

hunter63
05-17-2014, 03:54 PM
LOL.......Nothing wrong with ....fun...until you have to pick up the mess.

Piece of property next to mine had a ravine filled with junk......used as a dump....so it was great fun to take what ever toy dejure and shoot up the place.

Then I bought it ...and have been cleaning up my mess ever since.

At least old melons and pumpkins just dissolve.

They don't make those big magazines for nothing.

Rick
05-17-2014, 07:16 PM
I'm pretty sure that was in your ravine there Hunter. Those are all the pop cans you picked up last week.

hunter63
05-17-2014, 07:40 PM
No, those are along the road......kinda like a part time job, when alum. is $.30 cents a pound.
The dirty Pampers are the wordt.

The ravine collected all sorts of stuff.....actually had a young guy come over and haul away 4-5 pick up loads of refrigs, grills, doors, cans garbage, bottles.......and even an old manure spreader.

Kid did a good job on the big stuff that he could sell for junk....but the bottles and glass are still there.

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Seniorman
05-17-2014, 11:55 PM
KYRATSHOOTER - " ... He [Hickok45] is also notorious for his spray and pray antics with anything he gets his hands on that has more then one round in a magazine."

He also gets all his ammo free from Federal. I wouldn't mind a relationship like that! :laugh:

S.M.

Old Professor
05-18-2014, 09:13 AM
That brings up an interesting question -- What do you consider to be the purpose of a 'Woods Gun"? If it is just a gun to "plink" and burn ammo, I would prefer a 22 rimfire. Much cheaper to shoot, providing that you can find any 22 rimfire ammo now a days. If you consider a "Woods Gun" as a hunting tool suitable for close to medium ranges, I would still prefer something with more punch and accuracy. That does not rule out a 22 rimfire or a semi auto, as it depends on game targeted. If you anticipate a survival situation with two legged targets in the mix, then an AR or AK or SKS , in my opinion is a reasonable choice. The 7.39 is a virtual ballistic twin of the old standard 30-30, which for many years has been the definition of "Woods Cartridge". ( I am not a fan of the 5.56 cartridge) I think I would rather carry a Ruger Mini 30 (which I do not own)around in the woods than an AK, as it is less likely to spook the tourists.
My definition of a "Woods Gun" would include the following: a short length in what ever action type trips your trigger, a cartridge powerful enough to take down the largest game you are likely to target or encounter, and a cartridge that is commonly available. I would have added iron sights except that at my age I do not see iron sights very well and prefer a low power scope or red dot sight. Actually, for a lot of my woods running I carry a single shot in a pistol caliber cartridge.

hunter63
05-20-2014, 09:47 AM
Good summery, I agree......

Wildthang
05-20-2014, 11:35 AM
Wouldn't a " Woods Gun " be considered to be the same as what most people refer to as a brush gun? A large caliber slower velocity round capable of penetrating brush without deflecting the bullet too far off course?
Those guns would be as follows:

Winchester Model 94
Savage 99
Remington Model Seven
Marlin Model 308 MX LR
Marlin 336
Browning BLR
Remington Model 750 Woodmaster
Remington Model 7600

kyratshooter
05-20-2014, 01:42 PM
For us old purists those models might be ideal if criterion is based on philosophy of the 1950/1960 era; wood, steel, straight pull or semi-pistol grip stock.

I am now old enough to have grandchildren that hunt and roam the woods on their own. Their ideas about the size, shape and materials that make up an acceptable tool for woods use are vastly different from mine when I was that age.

I am now meeting many 20-something folks that, if asked the famous "only one gun" question, immediately reply not with caliber, model number or year of design dating to the 19th century, but with alphabet designation of either AK or AR.

Times are changing, but it seems that the older shooters do share one thing in common with politicians; a uniform view of what a "sporting gun" looks like.

hunter63
05-20-2014, 03:27 PM
.....................
Times are changing, but it seems that the older shooters do share one thing in common with politicians; a uniform view of what a "sporting gun" looks like.

.....and that may not be the best approach.....

chiggersngrits
05-20-2014, 10:16 PM
I'd take a .30 carbine over an AK for a woods gun. Less than a yard long, 5.5 lbs., 15 round mag. and enough energy at 50 yrds. to take down deer. I would also take an SKS over an AK. They just "feel" better.

Wildthang
05-21-2014, 08:20 AM
For us old purists those models might be ideal if criterion is based on philosophy of the 1950/1960 era; wood, steel, straight pull or semi-pistol grip stock.

I am now old enough to have grandchildren that hunt and roam the woods on their own. Their ideas about the size, shape and materials that make up an acceptable tool for woods use are vastly different from mine when I was that age.

I am now meeting many 20-something folks that, if asked the famous "only one gun" question, immediately reply not with caliber, model number or year of design dating to the 19th century, but with alphabet designation of either AK or AR.

Times are changing, but it seems that the older shooters do share one thing in common with politicians; a uniform view of what a "sporting gun" looks like.

I just don't think the younger crowd understands what a well suited gun is. They are raised on video games and movies that show nothing but the cool assult rifles, and they naturally think that the AK's and AR's is a do it all weapon. If it ain't cool to them then it is obviously not worth owning. I think for the most part that ballistics and practicality are out the window, and cool is in with the younger generation.

natertot
05-21-2014, 08:41 PM
I just don't think the younger crowd understands what a well suited gun is. They are raised on video games and movies that show nothing but the cool assult rifles, and they naturally think that the AK's and AR's is a do it all weapon. If it ain't cool to them then it is obviously not worth owning. I think for the most part that ballistics and practicality are out the window, and cool is in with the younger generation.

Gee..... thanks. I am either young and dumb and influenced by games to determine "cool" or I am now an old guy in the same class as many fine gents here.

I don't even know how I should take it......

point man
05-21-2014, 09:53 PM
Well you shouldn't worry about it much.
"A well suited woods gun" well to me well suited means many things. Versatility being one, well the AR certainly meets that category. Reliability would be another value and the AR also fits that too. Vietnam has been over for a very long time and the AR platform has come a very long way, people really should stop beating that horse. Any decent rifleman will have a good rifle cleaning/maintenance practices,. weather or not it's a shoot full of mud AK or a lever action 30-30.
I have my grandfathers Springfield 1898 30-40 krag 22" bar. That is a wonderful woods gun but it's a safe queen. It's taken 3 moose, 2 bears and tens of deer. It had its place.
However, Guns like that don't like to get wet or dropped or talked dirty too. They don't like to be field repaired and other than large game they certainly aren't versatile.
Now, the T/C's or handi's they are versatile. You can have a 22lr, 30cal something and a heavy game 45cal plus barrels, in a convenient little back pack. That set up will take you a long way, but it's only a single shot and not a very good force multiplier, God forbid if needed.
Well why can't that be done in an AR platform? Well you can. I do. The AR doesn't have to be a "poodle shooter". With the AR15 lower you can have over a dozen different caliber uppers from 22lr, 9mm, 40s&w, 45acp on up through short action center fire calibers maxing out in the 6.8spc my fav. The 6.5 Grendel which would be allot better if Mr alexander weren't so stingy with his patent, the 300aac, 458 socom, 450 bushmaster and 50 Beowulf.
Then you've got the AR10 lower you can do all the long action stuff. 260 rem, 270, 308, 338 federal etc.... Not to mention the ability change grips, stocks and hand guards galore, All while taking a beating, bringing home the bacon and defending the homestead with force.
I don't know of any wood stocked "well suited woods gun" clunker that is capable of that type of versatility and certainly no AK.
Don't be offended guys. Like I said before, I love all guns. Tall ones, short ones, skinny ones and fat ones





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Wildthang
05-22-2014, 06:37 AM
Gee..... thanks. I am either young and dumb and influenced by games to determine "cool" or I am now an old guy in the same class as many fine gents here.

I don't even know how I should take it......

Nater my comment was not aimed at you because you seem to be wise beyond your years.There are always exceptions! But almost all of the younger guys I know seem to think that the AK is the gun to have, and the only reason I can think of why they think that is television and video games. I keep telling them that at 500 yards, my bolt action 7mm mag would take an AK out almost without fail and they think I am crazy. They don't seem to understand that the AK for the most part is a spray and pray gun and is not very accurate compared to a lot of other rifles. They say, " but it has a 30 shot clip ", and I say yeah, but at 500 yards it may take all 30 to hit a target 2 times if you are lucky. Mean while I shoot once and your head is gone!
Of course the AR is much more accurate and can easily be deadly at 500 yards, but most of the kids I know still like the AK! I do think that a large majority of them are influenced by movies, television and video games. not for sure but it's what I think!
I love my AR which is just an open sight plain Jane with no fancy lazer sights or folding stocks, and for home defense it is a wonderful weapon but I think there are a lot more practical rifles for hunting larger game, but then again, I'm an old fart:smartass:

point man
05-22-2014, 07:23 AM
Hehehe. I suppose we all get stuck in our ways eventually. If ain't broke don't fix it


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SARKY
06-11-2014, 11:04 PM
If I'm going into the woods with a 7.62x39 chambered rifle, it will be my SKS. It's way more accurate and with the trigger job I gave it, it is a real sweet shooter.

sim97fan3
06-12-2014, 11:20 AM
I noticed most people seem to think that AKs are chambered in 7.62x39mm. You have lots of flavors to choose from in reality; 5.56x45mm, 5.45x39mm, 7.62x39mm. Even more so when you include the VEPR, built on the RPK receiver, with the same cartridges as I stated earlier plus .308 WIN, 7.62x54mmR and 30-06. The AK is a lot more accurate than people think, MAC from Youtube had a 7.62x39mm VEPR w/ scope hitting targets at 500 yards consistently. The 5.45x39mm cartridge is on level footing with the 5.56x45mm, especially when used in an AR. Now, I'm not saying an AK is as accurate as an AR but they get a bad rap from being seen as the weapon of the enemy and having insurgents/terrorist spraying and praying with old AKs that haven't been maintained.

Winter
06-12-2014, 02:44 PM
Spray and pray? The mini-14 is much more accurate and less troublesome than your standard AR at the same price. The only reason AR's excelled as a favorite is the fact you can customize it with everything under the sun. An accurate and reliable semi auto .223 under $650 whereas you'd have to spend another $400-500 to get the same results out of an AR. Plus, AR's have too many parts which means more to go wrong. So if one could get all the goodness of a mini-14 and have the punch of a .30cal, why pass it up? As far as what could you hunt for with it, I was thinking deer, coyote, boar, bear.

No on all counts. Read this. "The Mini-14 is NOT known to be DURABLE (When I was active we trained some Bahamanian Marines. They were all armed with pretty much brand new Mini-14's. We ran lots of patrols with them through swamps and over hill and dale - and did lots of dry and live fire exercises. Before two weeks were up - NOT ONE Mini-14 survived. They were ALL down - and I mean "down" as in would not work because of parts failure/breakage. They were all using "loaner" AR's for the rest of the time as their Mini's went down. Not surprisingly - they/we had no problems or issues with our AR's. Before this I had some 'range time' with a Mini-14 and it was a fun gun to shoot. I felt bad too as I really liked the Mini-14 when shooting them on a range. Pat Rogers - an instructor at Gunsite - has stated that he has NEVER seen a "Mini" make it through the demanding 4-5 day carbine course. NEVER. They always go "down" and the person uses a loaner AR to finish the course with. (We had no problems with our M4s doing all of the same stuff that we put the Mini's through. Granted the abuse that our rifles saw was WAY beyond what any civilian rifle sees but the scope of this post is way beyond what civilian rifles are designed for!)"

From- http://www.everycitizenasoldier.org/id32.html

I've owned 2 Mini's over the years. I have learned my lesson and won't own another.

A good friend of mine hunted for years with an AR in 6.5 Grendel. He dropped deer and black bear in their tracks. He just finished building an AR in .458 socom.

He now has the same ballistics as a .45-70 in a lighter, less recoiling, and more accurate platform than my Marlin Guide gun.

Rick
06-12-2014, 05:39 PM
Glad to see both Sarky and Winter. You guys have been AWOL. We talked about a F.A.R.T. response. In fact we talked about it a couple of meetings ago. Crash was taking the minutes but forget a pencil and we couldn't remember who one to look for first. Anywhoooo. Glad to see you guys back.

Winter
06-12-2014, 06:43 PM
Thanks Rick. I left for a while because right about the time a serious discussion started it was derailed by hongs and farts. Keeping on topic is a good thing.

Rick
06-13-2014, 03:00 PM
In that case, this buds for you. One must maintain a sense of humor.

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Phaedrus
06-15-2014, 07:01 AM
I guess it depends on what I'm doing in the woods. If I'm hunting big game it will likely be a bolt action .308 rifle. But if I'm not hunting I'm not going to traipse around with a rifle, I'll have a sidearm instead. Generally that will be an HK USP45 Tactical or HK P30S. Lately I haven't had the time to do any long trips, mostly overnighter or two-day outings. If I was going take a rifle in that scenario I'd probably be toting my Beretta Storm carbine in 9mm.

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