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tnrick55
03-18-2014, 03:18 PM
I was wondering if yall ever tried this they say it last a long time.
The trick it don't split the log all the way into.

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hunter63
03-18-2014, 04:09 PM
I can see where it would come in handy in deep snow.......otherwise don't really see any advantage.

Don't think I could "only split it a little bit"....Thasnks for posting.

Rick
03-18-2014, 06:07 PM
Most of the ones I've seen have been cut with a chainsaw although I've never tried it. I'm with Hunter, I don't think I could split a bit.

hunter63
03-18-2014, 06:10 PM
I was wondering if yall ever tried this they say it last a long time.
The trick it don't split the log all the way into.

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Actually the pictured log appears to be cut with a chain saw.....

point man
03-18-2014, 06:10 PM
You could split it all the way through then reassemble log up right. To keep split pieces together you could either dig down into ground a bit and put log in hole. You could bind log together with vines, natural cordage, very green supple shoots or wire. You could even keep split pieces together by leaning stones up against it all the way around. Main purpose of this technique is using it as a cooking surface


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hunter63
03-18-2014, 06:15 PM
Hunter63, saying Hey and Welcome.
Seems to me like a lot of work to go thru unless there was a good reason.

point man
03-18-2014, 06:27 PM
Hunter63, saying Hey and Welcome.
Seems to me like a lot of work to go thru unless there was a good reason.

Hey there. I'd have to agree. It's a really neat idea but in most cases I'd already have my fire burning a couple hours before thinking to myself "I should have built an upright fire just for fun"


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crashdive123
03-18-2014, 08:13 PM
Yep. Chainsaw for the bigger rounds. If you didn't carry a chainsaw with you, you can do it like this.

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/e1/05/6a/e1056aa65df0c90d2045a578726090b4.jpg

deafdave3
03-18-2014, 08:22 PM
Yep. Chainsaw for the bigger rounds. If you didn't carry a chainsaw with you, you can do it like this.

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/e1/05/6a/e1056aa65df0c90d2045a578726090b4.jpg

That's why I like visiting these survival forums; to hear myself say, "wish I had thought of that!" Looks like a good way to keep a fire going a very long time, if not overnight, right?

Rick
03-18-2014, 11:13 PM
I doubt it would burn that long. Depending on the type of wood and moisture content you might get a half hour or so(?). +/-. Give or take. Sorta 'bout.

deafdave3
03-19-2014, 12:03 AM
Is there an easy way for a newbie (me) to keep a fire going for several hours like that?

canid
03-19-2014, 12:04 AM
Just as important as learning to keep a fire going all night is learning to recognize when it is still smoldering the next morning while it doesn't seem like it is.

Apart from the wildfire risk, finding the little bits of remaining ember and blowing them back to health can save a lot of work. And they are usually in convenient proximity to some charcoal.

crashdive123
03-19-2014, 06:25 AM
Is there an easy way for a newbie (me) to keep a fire going for several hours like that?

For me - the vertical fire (swedish torch) would be a good choice in a very wet or snow covered area to keep it above the moisture. To keep a fire going for several hours - or through the night - think larger pieces of firewood and green firewood. Putting a couple of good sized green (not fully dried out) logs on a bed of coals will help you fire to burn for a long time.

Rick
03-19-2014, 07:12 AM
I guess it depends on what kind of fire you want to burn all night. If you want a roaring fire for heat then you will have to tend it off and on all night. If you just want to be able to start your fire easily in the morning then banking the coals will help along with what Canid and Crash said. To keep that kind of fire going you have to keep adding fuel. Here's a thought. I've never tried it but it looks interesting if not complicated. I found it on the internet thingy.



http://www.survivalistssite.com/~canuck/images/shelter/fire_reflector.png

natertot
03-19-2014, 08:29 AM
I guess it depends on what kind of fire you want to burn all night. If you want a roaring fire for heat then you will have to tend it off and on all night. If you just want to be able to start your fire easily in the morning then banking the coals will help along with what Canid and Crash said. To keep that kind of fire going you have to keep adding fuel. Here's a thought. I've never tried it but it looks interesting if not complicated. I found it on the internet thingy.



http://www.survivalistssite.com/~canuck/images/shelter/fire_reflector.png

I can't see image because im a guest.... Again.

natertot
03-19-2014, 08:34 AM
Okay, I can see it when I did a "reply with quote", but still can't see the image in Ricks post.

Out of curiosity, what would prevent the whole stack from going up or falling when the logs shift? It looks good as a drawing, but don't know about its realistic outcome.

RangerXanatos
03-19-2014, 08:52 AM
The swedish fire torch should be a good way to make something like a natural lantern around the camp. Also eliminates the need for a flat patch of ground if you shape the bottom to a point, doesn't require a dry platform, and presents a place to steadily set a cup of water directly on the fire.


Is there an easy way for a newbie (me) to keep a fire going for several hours like that?

I haven't tried it, but supposedly, you can have an upside down fire burn for well over 24 hours if you pack dirt in the cracks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPNf_lhbYPA

tnrick55
03-19-2014, 09:20 AM
uall may be right they mite have used a chainsaw,but i think i'm going to try it,maybe in the back yard to start with.

if i do or if uall do please lets us know all in all it mite be useful.

RandyRhoads
03-19-2014, 09:43 AM
Never heard of not cutting completely through. Just put the pieces back at the desired spacing..

hunter63
03-19-2014, 10:22 AM
One thing to keep in mind.....all ways, are not the best ways, all the time.
Or simply a lot of techniques work in some conditions and some in another.....depends on your location, material available and use.

Cooking on fires usually means coals (hardwoods make the best coals) , although a fast cup of coffee can be made with a fast burning flaming fire (think pine, birch, very dry soft woods)....To get that first cup gets ya going.....

Warming fire may have to be fed and tended, and a banked fire does well with a larger green piece that smolders all night.......won't do much to keep ya warm....but some tinder and a couple of puffs will restart in the morning.
Note, a change in weather conditions can blow a smoldering log into a dangerous fire very fast.....Like whole camp lit up.....so keep water, dirt, or something to knock it down if it flares up.

It seems there are people that like to make fires for the sake of watching them burn, using all sorts of ways, configurations and such.
Some just use a fire for a purpose......with out to much thought to style, or method., just the easiest and best way...this time.

It's good to know as many different ways to do anything.......so its cool and all.
Do what works for you.

deafdave3
03-19-2014, 12:26 PM
The swedish fire torch should be a good way to make something like a natural lantern around the camp. Also eliminates the need for a flat patch of ground if you shape the bottom to a point, doesn't require a dry platform, and presents a place to steadily set a cup of water directly on the fire.



I haven't tried it, but supposedly, you can have an upside down fire burn for well over 24 hours if you pack dirt in the cracks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPNf_lhbYPA

I hope I don't sound disrespectful, but that video doesn't have captions, and I'd love to know what he's saying. Not trying to be ugly....just FYI.

RangerXanatos
03-19-2014, 12:44 PM
I hope I don't sound disrespectful, but that video doesn't have captions, and I'd love to know what he's saying. Not trying to be ugly....just FYI.

It has automatic captions. Click on the CC, then on. Some of the words are off, but hopefully understandable?

Anyways, it's basically making an upside down fire (pyramid) and packing dirt in between the logs to keep the coals from falling into the cracks. They made a teepee lay on top to light and start the coals. They claim to have had theirs last for about 40-42 hours.

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deafdave3
03-19-2014, 01:29 PM
It has automatic captions. Click on the CC, then on. Some of the words are off, but hopefully understandable?

Anyways, it's basically making an upside down fire (pyramid) and packing dirt in between the logs to keep the coals from falling into the cracks. They made a teepee lay on top to light and start the coals. They claim to have had theirs last for about 40-42 hours.

9866

Maybe it's the iPad I'm using, but I can't find the caption option.

Rick
03-19-2014, 01:30 PM
I fixed the pic...I think. At least it's working at the moment. I would think the trick on that thingy is the angle of the logs. It would seem to me if they were too vertical you'd have a dandy bonfire. If they were too flat then they wouldn't move down. What ever I did it would be wrong at the worst possible time. And....I've been known to use a wee bit of gas or alcohol to start a fire from time to time. You can't cheat in the woods. It's all good.

aktrekker
03-19-2014, 06:02 PM
Here's a couple of examples of overnight fires.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTKGD6Y2mDw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu0U-qCnQUs

jaydendyck1
08-14-2014, 08:11 PM
We have made a couple of those around the river playing some pond hockey great for warming the hands up and great for in the snow bank like others have mentioned.

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