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[cgrantcollier]

Hello, I am very excited to have just found this site. I have already seen many topics and posts that I am very interested in and plan on studying these in much more detail. I am a 38 year old man from North Georgia who lives outside of Rome Georgia. I am a career firefighter by profession for the last 18 years and own a landscape and lawncare company as well. I went into the Army at age 17 and served for 6 years total between active duty and National Guard service. As soon as I came off active duty at age 19, and began my career as a firefighter, my first goal was to buy a piece of property outside of town. I had saved everything I made possible in the military, and purchased 18 acres. This land is mainly wooded and had the timber cut off of it when I purchased it, which was why I could afford it versus a smaller tract of unraped property. I have always wanted to build a true log cabin from my land and sweat, and finally am in the final planning stages of doing just this. It has taken this long for my trees to mature enough to be able to harvest the logs from my own land instead of having to buy them from someone else, which is important to me. I have made many improvements over the years to this property such as building a 4800 ft long driveway to my building site, many perimeter roads and trails, treestands for hunting, a firing range and shooting tables, fire pit and camping areas, etc. This land has basically served as our playground away from the craziness of our normal lifes running like a hamster in a wheel. I have a 10 year old son who enjoys this property as well being able to bring his friends to our property for campouts, shooting, hunting, hiking, fishing, riding dirtbikes and ATV's , and other activities that many of these kids would never get to experience living inside the city or in a neighborhood. I have become pretty proficient at many survival and outdoor skills through trial and error and look forward to the information found here to learn from others who have already done what we are going to do. As of next week, if the weather will cooperate, I will begin harvesting my first pine trees that are approximately 8-10 diameter to build our first small cabin. I intend on learning by building a couple of small cabins/barns for some goats that we have to experiment on. I hope that these small scale cabins will be good practice to help with the tasks of skinning and notching the logs, building my foundation and floor system, building the roof system, and finishing the cabins. The area that I am to begin clearing this week is going to be graded, as soon as I finish harvesting all the useable trees, to build a pole barn. I had planned on doing the cabin first, but I acquired an entire tractor trailer load of power poles about 2 months ago, so my plans changed because I dont want to wait and take a chance on these rotting and wasting them. I am considering combining these two ideas and building a pole barn/log cabin in one. I am going to set my poles and have a clearance of 12 feet from the ground to the bottom of the band that the roofing system of the barn will be built on. I am considering using this 2 by 10 band around the top of these poles as a floor system and then building the cabin in the air above the barn at this height just as I would on the ground. The planned dimensions of the barn are 24 ft. wide by 40 ft. deep. I will have poles spanning 12' O.C. wide and 10' O.C. going down the sides. This will give me 2 open areas in the storage part of the barn, 12' by 40' with a row of poles down the center. Like I said earlier, I am just considering this idea and am not sure that I will go with it, but so far it seems logical to me. This would give me a floor system to put a 960 sq ft cabin on top of which is much larger than I had planned on building to begin with, but I have plenty of logs, and by doing it all in one footprint I will eliminate having to do a foundation and roof system for 2 seperate structures. I plan on doing a 12 ft wide shed off of either side of the barn making the total footprint 48 ft wide by 40 deep. The shed roofs would come off at the band level of the barn on either side which would be the bottom of the cabin level. To keep it from being too top heavy I would probably do my side walls a shorter than normal height somewhere around 6 ft tall, which would still allow for plenty of headroom in the center even at a slight pitch such as a 6/12. I would have the access to the cabin from the inside of the barn by a stairway in the rear corner and a secondary means of escape out the back in case of a fire. This large open space could be finished into living space in any configuration wanted or into part living, and part workshop. The location of this site is fairly high in elevation and can see a view for about 30 miles looking towards Johns Mountain Range. I like the looks of a saddle notch corner for the log cabin the best, but am torn between it and the butt and pass method due to the ease of it and lack of settling and less labor intensive task of notching everything. I also have considered letting my pole barn poles extend all the way to the roof system of the cabin and using the vertical corner method like the trapper cabins on this post to finish the log cabin and have a band for the barn ceiling/cabin floor at 12' high, then using the same pole have a second band at 19' foot high on the pole to build the roof system off of. This would allow for the 1' of flooring system and still leave 6' tall outside walls for the cabin. I am sure all of this rambling may seem greek as you read it, but please don't hesitate to offer any advice or even tell me this is a terrible idea if you know of a reason that it would be. I look forward to hearing from some of you with much more experience than I in these fields. Thanks!

[hunter63]

Hunter63 saying Hey and Welcome.
Thank you for your service.

Maybe hit "Enter" once in a while......kinda hard to read, at least for these old eyes.

[crashdive123]

Hello and welcome.

[DSJohnson]

Welcome to the forum. Glad that you have found us. Thank you for your service.

[1stimestar]

Welcome from Alaska.

[BushTech]

Welcome to the forum! Please keep us posted on the progress of your cabin.

[Rick]

Welcome home and thank you for your service. Your utility poles are probably Penta treated. The main ingredient is Pentachlorophenol. If they have a green hue then they are penta treated. If they are black then they are creosote but there's not many of those around anymore.

You might want to research penta before incorporating the poles into your home. Penta chemicals include dioxins and other cancer causing chemicals. They are not people friendly. They would probably be okay as a pole barn away from your home but I wouldn't want to live in it. Just Google "penta pole treatment".

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