Boy Do I Hate Micarta!

[Farley]

So I got my first crack at micarta handles behind me, aaaaaand I dont like it. Dont get me wrong, its amazing stuff but my handles dont look anything like I hoped.

Im using black canvas micarta and from everything I've seen on the net so far, sanded/ground/worked black will come out as a shade of light grey, mine came out dull, dark grey and not showing much "grain". So I guess Im wondering, can it be my technique or tools?

I'm using a 1 x 30 belt sander, a dremel, and hand sanding. With the first pass over the scales, I got the high grain, light grey I was hoping for. But as I tried to smooth the transitions out, I end up with dull lifeless grey. Anybody got any ideas as to what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks a bunch

[canid]

Are you sure it's micrata you aren't liking rather than the particular execution?

Few skills are mastered the first time or two around.

If you bought the micarta, it could be the particular supply as well.

[crashdive123]

So I got my first crack at micarta handles behind me, aaaaaand I dont like it. Dont get me wrong, its amazing stuff but my handles dont look anything like I hoped.

Im using black canvas micarta and from everything I've seen on the net so far, sanded/ground/worked black will come out as a shade of light grey, mine came out dull, dark grey and not showing much "grain". So I guess Im wondering, can it be my technique or tools?

I'm using a 1 x 30 belt sander, a dremel, and hand sanding. With the first pass over the scales, I got the high grain, light grey I was hoping for. But as I tried to smooth the transitions out, I end up with dull lifeless grey. Anybody got any ideas as to what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks a bunch

Need a bit more info. On your 1 X 30 what grit belts are you using? For me (on a 1 X 30) I start with 80 grit and progress through 120, 220, 400 and either a worn out 400 or a 600. I finish it on the buffer.

[Farley]

Crash:

As I was near the point of finishing, I was using a 320 grit belt. Up to that point I had used course grit drums and moved my way up to 320 hand sanding. It seemed as though the courser grits worked well but when I attempted the finer grits to smooth it out, it would lose it's grain look.

[crashdive123]

Not exactly sure what you mean. Pics would help.

Here are a few vids I did on making micarta. While I understand that you are not making it, you will see one way to sand and buff it in the vids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEKCu9bU9mg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfT8O6FPhIQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UszpBOoIL8Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM2H_IPWjBY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Kl-FrrStY0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23_L08hYN_c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxT5RHGZ6iE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn9ki15rXeM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0pKbfRg-so

[randallss7]

I'm not sure I use a lot of black micarta both linen and canvas, the canvas has more of a spotted grain for lack of better word, but I never have any trouble with it turning out, try buffing it with some white or pink compound. I do not want to hijack the thread but I just finished this one last night black linen micarta sanded to 600 then buffed with pink compound.

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh487/randallss7/DSCF2087-1_zps3a55391b.jpg (http://s1248.photobucket.com/user/randallss7/media/DSCF2087-1_zps3a55391b.jpg.html)

[Farley]

9480

Thanks Crash and Randall,

Here's a pic of the handles. It actually comes out better in the pic but that still doesnt say much.

[crusher]

It looks good
I think if you polish it you will be surprised how it comes out...

[randallss7]

I forgot to tell you I do the later stages of sanding with mineral oil, hope this helps.

[Farley]

Thanks Randall, I forgot to mention that I wanted to leave it in a raw, unpolished state. But the tip with the olive oil should come in handy in the future.

[crashdive123]

I've never put anything on mine when I sand them. What does the mineral oil do for you? Carry away the grit?

I do finish mine on the buffer with white compound.

[randallss7]

I've never put anything on mine when I sand them. What does the mineral oil do for you? Carry away the grit?

I do finish mine on the buffer with white compound.

Just seams to me like it makes the paper work a little longer by washing away the grit and keeps the paper cutting longer, I also seam to get a better finish if I'm going for a really polished look. I do not know the science behind it, just lots of trial and error.

[randallss7]

Thanks Randall, I forgot to mention that I wanted to leave it in a raw, unpolished state. But the tip with the olive oil should come in handy in the future.

It will be grey if you leave it raw, also sand blasting it will make it look cool, linen or paper micarta will give you more of what you are looking for in that state, black g-10 even more so.

[Farley]

Hmmmmm, I like the sand blasting idea.

[randallss7]

Hmmmmm, I like the sand blasting idea.

Here is one I made for myself, I took my favorite design "loveless style drop point" this one is made from cmps35vn, I then put it into the sand blasting cabinet and sand blasted the entire thing, well its a medium grit coal slag medium from tractor supply. Handle is black linen Micarta notice it has a grey look but the black did come out. It even gives the pins a cool dull look.

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh487/randallss7/DSCF2016_2_zps54305f5b.jpg (http://s1248.photobucket.com/user/randallss7/media/DSCF2016_2_zps54305f5b.jpg.html)

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh487/randallss7/DSCF2015_1_zps90c8af0b.jpg (http://s1248.photobucket.com/user/randallss7/media/DSCF2015_1_zps90c8af0b.jpg.html)

[Farley]

Nice one Randall, I really like the satin look the sandblasting gives. More so, the micarta is exactly what I was looking for.

Fantastic looking knife.

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