B, have you watched this one?

[Ken]

Surprising Guinness Commercial


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwndLOKQTDs&feature=player_embedded (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/05/guinness-wheelchair-basketball-commercial_n_3874732.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular)

[BENESSE]

It represents advertising at its best.
It's what we all strive to do...client permitting.

[crashdive123]

+1. B - how often does a client get in the way of a great ad campaign?

[hunter63]

Very cool, some time a ray of sunshine does peak thru......

[BENESSE]

+1. B - how often does a client get in the way of a great ad campaign?

All. The. Time.
For every good ad that sees the light of day, hundreds are either DOA or suffer a slow death of a thousand cuts. The client would typically say...yeah, we like it, but could you just change M to N? Also, we want to add something about X...make it sound more like Y...but we don't want to write the copy, you guys are the experts.
It's Mad Men without the long, expensive 3 martini lunches at the 21.

[Seniorman]

All. The. Time.
For every good ad that sees the light of day, hundreds are either DOA or suffer a slow death of a thousand cuts. The client would typically say...yeah, we like it, but could you just change M to N? Also, we want to add something about X...make it sound more like Y...but we don't want to write the copy, you guys are the experts.
It's Mad Men without the long, expensive 3 martini lunches at the 21.

Exactly the same with screenplays in Hollywood. A screenwriter needs to down a couple of stiff shots of Scotch before meeting with producers to discuss "a few little minor changes" in his screenplay. He should also leave his handgun at home. :devil2:

S.M.

[BENESSE]

Exactly the same with screenplays in Hollywood. A screenwriter needs to down a couple of stiff shots of Scotch before meeting with producers to discuss "a few little minor changes" in his screenplay. He should also leave his handgun at home. :devil2:

S.M.

I feel your pain, SM. What's frustrating is that they truly believe they bought the idea and don't understand that once they get through f-ing with it, it's no longer the thing they bought. It becomes mediocre at best, and it ultimately reflects badly on you (the creative) not them.
That's why I always insist (if remotely feasible) on my own cut which usually coincides with the director's cut. Without it, I couldn't possibly put on my reel what ends up running on TV.
Compared to what I go through with clients, wilderness survival is a walk in the park.

[Seniorman]

I feel your pain, SM. What's frustrating is that they truly believe they bought the idea and don't understand that once they get through f-ing with it, it's no longer the thing they bought. It becomes mediocre at best, and it ultimately reflects badly on you (the creative) not them.
That's why I always insist (if remotely feasible) on my own cut which usually coincides with the director's cut. Without it, I couldn't possibly put on my reel what ends up running on TV.
Compared to what I go through with clients, wilderness survival is a walk in the park.

I know what you mean. Great that you can get your own cut and the director and you can come to agreement.

Speaking of "little changes," several years ago I was writing an episode for a popular private eye show for which I'd already done several episodes. I went into the Exec. Producer's office to talk about a few minor changes for the final draft script, which is standard. After discussing a couple of changes, he said, "Oh by the way, we're adding a new regular character to the show, Joe Schhmo. He'll work each show with the star in solving crimes. Shouldn't be any problem in your script to just cut him into a couple or three scenes, give him a few lines."

Nope, no problem at all. Just a 95% rewrite.

What, and give up show biz? :cool:

I agree that bustin' around out in the boonies is a lot more fun than dealing with "the powers that be."

S.M.

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