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rebel
03-30-2008, 06:31 PM
When do you say enough? At what percentage do you say screw this, we aren't bailing out the world? I mean why work for 40, 30 or 20 % take home pay while others get the same benifits and do nothing but have children and hate you.

crashdive123
03-30-2008, 06:51 PM
Sounds like somebody recently filed their taxes.

BraggSurvivor
03-30-2008, 06:51 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/Bructer/lurker.gif Just eating popcorn and biting my tongue.

beerrunner13
03-30-2008, 06:58 PM
I can't go there, already been told I am too political and hard line

Excalibur
03-30-2008, 10:08 PM
this reminds me a thread I read earlier cant remember who posted it but I owe them a quarter cause I printed it off for the guys at work they should love it and ill be damned if I can find it but this is the screen shot of it would the actual owner of these lines please dont be offended but I laughed so hard I almost fell on my floor

A number of years ago, I owed the federal government $800 in taxes and I didn't send a check with the tax return. A few weeks later I got a call from them, now I had the money, that wasn't the point. The conversation went something like this:

Tax Guy: I'm calling to inquire about when you intend to pay your outstanding balance.

Me: I don't

Tax Guy: You have to!

Me: Why?

Tax Guy: Everyone has to pay taxes!

Me: Nope, not me.

Tax Guy (getting a little frantic): But, you have to, everyone has to pay their taxes.

Me: Why?

Tax Guy: Think about all the services the government provides for you (lists several)

Me: I don't use any of them

Tax Guy: You don't understand sir, everyone has to pay taxes!

Me: You don't understand, if I go to a store and lay out $800, I come out with a lot of stuff, you guys got nothin' for me.

Tax Guy: But EVERYONE has to pay their taxes. I pay my taxes!

Me: If everyone jumped off a bridge.....

Tax Guy: We'll garnishee your paychecks!

Me: yeah, I know, but I'm trying to get $800 worth of fun out of this, am I pissing you off

*Click* Tax guy hangs up

Excalibur
03-30-2008, 10:09 PM
I have no claim to these lines but I loved them so much I had to share with the guys at work

crashdive123
03-30-2008, 10:18 PM
Thank Trax for them.

Excalibur
03-30-2008, 10:25 PM
Thanks Trax

Rick
03-31-2008, 07:36 AM
I've posted this before. So I'll do it again. I don't mind paying taxes and Lord knows I pay my fair share. I also have one of the world's best military to protect me. I have great schools, good roads, a great hospital, an awesome library, an outstanding police, fire and EMT team to protect me. And on and on. You might not have all that where you live so I can only look at my little corner of the world. But I think it buys me a lot. I go so sleep at night with a full tummy and a reasonable expectation that I'll awake in the morning. I don't have to worry about malaria or any of several dozen terrible diseases that many parts of the world live with every day.

nell67
03-31-2008, 07:39 AM
where I live Rick,the library is free for those who live in the "city",otherwise,you pay $30 for a library card....

Rick
03-31-2008, 07:40 AM
I pay for the card as well. But the building is there and it's stocked with everything from Plato to Playdough.

nell67
03-31-2008, 07:42 AM
Never had to pay for a Library card where I lived before,LOL it was FREE public Library!

rebel
03-31-2008, 09:30 AM
Taxes provide for some nice things. Can you live without a public library or any of the other things listed? Was life bad before the taxation? If family and friends were your safety net wouldn't you treat people better? If you had to rely on your family to provide for your prison internment...well, once again relationships. Schooling used to be the parents responsibility. When the parents shelled out the bucks the emphasis for the child was to do their best ( relationship ). I think we've allowed the responsibilities of accountability from our government down to our personal lives to run out of control. There is a limit. I don't know what the collective limit is but, there seems to be a limit. My guess is, if we live to see that limit then we will see relationships for survival.

nell67
03-31-2008, 09:37 AM
So how many states are there that parents do not have to pay for their children to go to school? We do in Indiana,but I have heard that we are only one of a handful or less that still have to pay.

Alpine_Sapper
03-31-2008, 09:42 AM
So how many states are there that parents do not have to pay for their children to go to school? We do in Indiana,but I have heard that we are only one of a handful or less that still have to pay.

You mean, pay to send my kid to that thing they call a public school? They can kiss my a**. I'll pay for private school, but my taxes are supposed to pay for the public school system. It's not up to me to cough up extra funds if they can't manage what they're given.

This would be a no, as far as I am aware, for Texas. :)

nell67
03-31-2008, 09:44 AM
Yes,we pay to send our kids to public school!About 20 years ago,they started to lottery here,and proceeds were supposed to help pay for education...and it hasn't changed for us,except each year,it gets higher to send the kids back to school.

We pay taxes here,that is supposed to pay for education,but we still pay for text book rental,locker fees,gym clothes and meals.

TO add insult to this,in our school system,they do not have enough text books in certain classes for all the students,but they STILL charge each student a book rental fee for those classes.

crashdive123
03-31-2008, 09:55 AM
The dirty little secret about states using proceeds from their lotteries to pay for education is that for every dollar of lottery money pumped into education, a dollar of tax money is removed and spent someplace else.

rebel
03-31-2008, 09:57 AM
Somehow this post got on two seperate areas. General subjects and General Survival Subjects. Some threads are crossing over and some are not.

nell67
03-31-2008, 09:59 AM
I think Rick deleted one of the threads?

Rick
03-31-2008, 10:07 AM
Sorry. I meant to move the thread to the General Chat section and Copied it by mistake. I then deleted the post in the General Survival Section. The Copy button and the Move button sit next to each other and I clicked the wrong one.

Rick
03-31-2008, 10:09 AM
Again, I can only comment on what occurs locally. I don't have any problem with the public schools. Sure, I'd like to see them improve but that's true of any school public or private. And I don't know what Indiana does relative to lottery dollars/eduction dollars. I've never looked into it. Crash might be right.

rebel
03-31-2008, 10:13 AM
Wouldn't it be enough to provide for the three R's in education? Why all the sporting facilities, uniforms, instruments, trips, sensitivity training, ...etc? It's not just the school system that is wasting our money. Government allotments. To get the same or more allotment for the next year you better not have a surplus.

rebel
03-31-2008, 10:26 AM
Anyway, I think with the cost of fuel and therefore everything else going higher we will be tightening our belts. Somethings will need to be reevaluated on an as needed basis. Look at the some of the two class society countries. I bet you will not find many new schools, hospitals, libraries,...

Rick
03-31-2008, 10:36 AM
I sure do agree with you on allotments. Business operates the same way and in my opinion it trains spenders. During fourth quarter every year I would always receive the same memo requesting my department to spend as much of the remaining dollars as possible. Otherwise, just as you said, next year's allocation would be less. I never had a department that required the level of funding they had received and I wasn't a prude about spending money. I purchased new servers and desktops, laptops for my employees, upgraded their cubicles/offices, earmarked funds for celebrations and anniversaries and STILL had money left over. In one department I gave my boss back $250K each quarter because we were that far under budget. It's crazy.

trax
03-31-2008, 11:58 AM
Yeah I just wanted to use the word conundrum, but

a) you're more than welcome excalibur, the sad part of the story was eventually they got their money, they always do. I just wanted $800 worth of at least fun and games out of them

b) How can we discuss things like taxes and economics (I know I'm sounding like a broken record here, but certain pols are going to follow specific economic policies!!) without getting political??

c) I say we hold a protest and occupy the students centre (whoa, that was 40 years ago, hey...a mushroom, be right back)

rebel
03-31-2008, 12:27 PM
I've got to leave for the slave ship. I'll take the Ben Hur motto with me to "row well and live".

Excalibur
03-31-2008, 08:55 PM
I paid 3600 dollars in "school Taxes" out of my 4200 property taxs this year, plus they have a stipend from the lotter and I wouldnt be suprised if they get oil money and we have some of the worst schools in the union i think honalulu has the worst in the nation I read it somewhere cant remember where

Excalibur
03-31-2008, 08:56 PM
lol by the was I got several good belly laughs out of that post thanks again trax

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