What "IF" reference Syria

[Sourdough]

This is a honest question that I have. What happens if when we are doing a short duration pounding of Syria (Setting aside if we should or should not) they sink United States Navy ships, killing hundreds maybe thousands. I do NOT want that to happen, but if it does..........then WHAT......???

[1stimestar]

Then Russian will jump in (as well as China) and then you and I, my friend, are screwed.

[Ranger F]

It's a mess either way, we will accomplish nothing with what there talkin about doing.

[Winter]

I'm not sure Syria has the capabilities to inflict harm on the US Navy. The USN has simply amazing force protection capabilities.

The last ship known to be lost to enemy action (a mine) was USS Magpie (AMS-25) off the coast of Korea on Sept. 29 1950.

It is possible we lost the submarine USS Scorpion (SSN-589) to Soviet attack subs in May1968.

The USS Cole was suicide bombed in 12 October 2000, and the USS Liberty was attacked by Israel Defense Forces on June 8, 1967, but neither were sunk.

[Sourdough]

I don't know if this is true or Bull.


Russia has sold Syria highly advanced rocket launchers, anti-aircraft missiles and anti-ship missiles. In fact, the P-800 Yakhont anti-ship missiles that Russia has equipped Syria with are the most advanced anti-ship missiles that Russia has. When the United States strikes Syria, they might be quite surprised at how hard Syria can hit back. The Syrian military is the most formidable adversary that the U.S. military has tangled with in the Middle East by far. From Syria, P-800 Yakhont anti-ship missiles can cover much of the eastern Mediterranean and can even reach air bases in Cyprus. If the U.S. Navy is not very careful to stay out of range, we could easily see footage of destroyed U.S. naval vessels sinking into the Mediterranean Sea on the evening news. And once the American people see such footage, it will be impossible to stop a full-blown war between the United States and Syria

Source: http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/russia-has-equipped-syria-with-their-most-advanced-anti-ship-missiles

[Winter]

Looks like we can deal with the p-800
http://defense-update.com/20100920_yakhont_in_syria.html
P-800 has a 180 m range.
To compare, our bgm-109 "Tomahawk" cruise missle has a range of 1550 miles.

According to your link; "The Patriot Missiles will be hit and repealed with S300 SAM [already installed in Syria]. Putin also threatened to deliver the more advanced S400 anti-aircraft missiles"
That is utter nonsense. The s300-s400 are anti aircraft missiles and the patriot is both AA and antimissile. In essence, the Syrian press is saying they will shoot down our antimissile missiles with an antiaircraft missile.

[BENESSE]

This is a honest question that I have. What happens if when we are doing a short duration pounding of Syria (Setting aside if we should or should not) they sink United States Navy ships, killing hundreds maybe thousands. I do NOT want that to happen, but if it does..........then WHAT......???

If history is any predictor of the future, it will escalate into a pissing match with Syria and other Arab countries who are already allergic to what they perceive to be another example of American aggression in that region. They'll get lots of support from Russia and China, and we are going to loose much more than we would have gained by minding or own business, or at most, acting through a coalition led by the Arab League.

[crashdive123]

It would escalate.

[Sourdough]

Maybe that is the hoped for plan........



It would escalate.

[Ranger F]

Support Israel, n let the rest kill each other.

[crashdive123]

Maybe that is the hoped for plan........

I really would expect it to escalate. If somebody lobbed a few missiles into one of our cities we would consider it an act of war. We should expect them to consider it an act of war as well and respond accordingly. I'll send you a PM on my thoughts since they do involve politics.

[Ken]

I really would expect it to escalate. If somebody lobbed a few missiles into one of our cities we would consider it an act of war. We should expect them to consider it an act of war as well and respond accordingly. I'll send you a PM on my thoughts since they do involve politics.

Would you be kind enough to cc me on that PM?

[crashdive123]

Done - or will be as soon as I copy and paste it.

[BENESSE]

Done - or will be as soon as I copy and paste it.

Me 2! (send pm)

[Winter]

Post it on facebook.

[Ken]

Done - or will be as soon as I copy and paste it.

Thank you!

[zeroed4x]

Support Israel, n let the rest kill each other.

+1, we have no strategic or tactical interests to protect in Syria. They are not a a threat except for the fact that domestic terrorism will most likely spike when we begin to strike military targets with stand off weapons. I'd rather see our taxes go to unscrew the economy, domestic energy ( oil ) and quite a few other more serious issues here at home.

[Sourdough]

+1, we have no strategic or tactical interests to protect in Syria. They are not a a threat except for the fact that domestic terrorism will most likely spike when we begin to strike military targets with stand off weapons. I'd rather see our taxes go to unscrew the economy, domestic energy ( oil ) and quite a few other more serious issues here at home.


I have NO idea if this is VALID...

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/is-the-united-states-going-to-go-to-war-with-syria-over-a-natural-gas-pipeline

[Rick]

President Obama recently said that he couldn't send American troops into Syria without first having a mandate.
Honestly if he's that bothered, I'll go out with him.

A Syrian airstrike on a bakery today killed dozens, which is one more than you might think.

Obama announced today that he has changed his mind about military action against Syria
In other news....It was announced today there is no oil in Syria.

I was speaking to a man from Syria today and he said, "In my country, bear fighting is the most popular sport."
"That's revolting." I replied.
"No, that's our second most popular sport."

Barump bump!

[Phaedrus]

Any action we take in Syria will be very limited. Obama has no interest or intention of risking any American lives, IMO. We will probably hit 'em with some missiles, and I'd be surprised if we did much for airstrikes. We have to do enough to "save face" (a terrible reason to kill people IMOHO, but I will leave my politics out of it) and "punish" Assad for using chemical weapons. The US is in that awkward position of not really knowing if we're still expected to be the policeman to the world. If chemical weapons were used and we take no action, there's a good chance that the next regime will consider their use a bit safer. Of course, if we only take measures to protect certain people then we demonstrated that some people are more equal than others.

At the risk of sounding political (and I suppose this is a little bit) the Founders gave us some pretty good advice when they said we should avoid permanent alliances and foreign entanglements. That's not the same as isolationism at all. Sadly the UN is a rigged game of Three Card Monty with the Ruskies making sure any actions will be blocked. Ideally we should only be acting with the rest of the world but that's not gonna happen. I'm a liberal and probably more of a dove than a hawk. I believe in being strong but not projecting power into other people's affairs.

Oh well...good thing it's not my call, I guess!

[Solar Geek]

Done - or will be as soon as I copy and paste it.

Me 2 please

[Rick]

When you make very bold statements you are often placed in the position of having to live up to with them.

Chemical weapons used in Khan al-Assal, Al-Otaybeh and Damascus on March 19, 2013

President Obama: “Once we establish the facts, I have made clear that the use of chemical weapons is a game changer,” March 20, 2013

Yet, no action is taken against Syria pending an investigation.

Chemical weapons used in Adra on March 24, 2013

No action taken against Syria

Chemical weapons used in Sheikh Maqsoud and Aleppo on April 13.

Still no action is taken.

Chemical weapons used in Saraqeb on April 29

Still no action is taken.

General Martin Dempsey's Letter to Rep. Engel: “It would not be militarily decisive, but it would commit us decisively to the conflict. Syria today is not about choosing between two sides but rather about choosing one among many sides ... We should evaluate the effectiveness of limited military options in this context.” August 19, 2013

http://democrats.foreignaffairs.house.gov/113/Letter_for_Rep_Engel_19_Aug_13.pdf

Chemical weapons used in Ghouta and again in Damascus on August 21, 2013

When you tell your enemy that you aren't really going to do anything provocative, "It would not be militarily decisive", you essentially tell them it's okay.

[BENESSE]

This commentary pretty much sums it all up for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErGmEi5_t6M

[Rick]

Is it just me or is John Kerry looking more and more like John Smiley?

http://ashpolitics.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/guysmiley.jpg (http://ashpolitics.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/guysmiley.jpg)

[BENESSE]

John Kerry is so Botoxed, he looks embalmed. His forehead doesn't move and his eyes don't match. Of course, his wife is no help, she looks just as bad.

[timjones922]

I really would expect it to escalate. If somebody lobbed a few missiles into one of our cities we would consider it an act of war. We should expect them to consider it an act of war as well and respond accordingly. I'll send you a PM on my thoughts since they do involve politics.

I'd like a pm on this as well. I have thought about this, and none of the scenarios are good. Armageddon, the rapture, major SHTF scenario. That is why I just re- stocked, and replaced my wife's get home bag.

[timjones922]

Is it just me or is John Kerry looking more and more like John Smiley?

http://ashpolitics.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/guysmiley.jpg (http://ashpolitics.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/guysmiley.jpg)
Too much collagen, or butt fat injected into his face.

[Ken]

Too much collagen, or butt fat injected into his face.

He didn't need an injection. The butt fat just rubbed off on his face, because his head has always been up his azz. I've met the man several times. I've never encountered a more pompous horse's azz in my life.

[crashdive123]

I guess I shouldn't announce that I'm sending a p.m. Let's just leave it at my answer was political and I do not approve of military intervention in Syria.

[Rick]

Either that or charge per copy.

[Sourdough]

Either that or charge per copy.


If someone puts it in their BLOG and deletes it after a week...........is that against forum rules.........????

[Rick]

No. The only reason we don't want posts deleted is because it messes up the thread. For example, you might post:

Rick, how many canoe accidents have you had?

My response: 12.

Then you delete your post and my response of 12 is hanging out there with no reference and no longer makes any sense (assuming any of my posts make sense of course).

You shouldn't run into that on a blog.

[Wildthang]

So who has thrown on their backpack and gone for a nice relaxing hike lately:smartass:

[Rick]

Some of you know that in my former life I managed disaster recovery and business continuity for the corporation I worked for. While I've let my certifications lapse I still receive a lot email in the field, which I've found pretty helpful in my personal life. In any case, and the reason I am posting here, is an email I received today regarding a retaliatory attack by the Syrian Electronic Army (SEA) if the US launches a first strike. It's an interesting read.

http://blogs.csoonline.com/global-security/2759/could-syria-launch-major-cyberattack-against-usa

[Wildthang]

You know Obama is all whacked out by the chemical weapons that Syria has supposedly used, but to me that is no different than all of the road bombs, suicide bombers, and fertilizer bombs that are used almost every day in the Arab nations to kill each other with. The end results are the same, people die!
And I really don't care anymore that those people love to kill each other over there. I am all for letting them kill each other and the US saves our money to straighten out our meesses right here!
We need to let those people follow their own dreams of killing each other and maybe someday they will exterminate their own race and the rold can move on!

[timjones922]

This is a honest question that I have. What happens if when we are doing a short duration pounding of Syria (Setting aside if we should or should not) they sink United States Navy ships, killing hundreds maybe thousands. I do NOT want that to happen, but if it does..........then WHAT......???
Syria will use this as an excuse to attack Israel, and then you will get a serious SHTF scenario.

[timjones922]

He didn't need an injection. The butt fat just rubbed off on his face, because his head has always been up his azz. I've met the man several times. I've never encountered a more pompous horse's azz in my life.

I agree. Kerry seriously needs an operation called a rectal, cranial inversion.

[zeroed4x]

He didn't need an injection. The butt fat just rubbed off on his face, because his head has always been up his azz. I've met the man several times. I've never encountered a more pompous horse's azz in my life.

+1 lol, his hair is slick too

[Ken]

Poll: Majority Of Americans Approve Of Sending Congress To Syria :innocent:


http://www.theonion.com/articles/poll-majority-of-americans-approve-of-sending-cong,33752/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:1:Default

[bacpacker]

Some of you know that in my former life I managed disaster recovery and business continuity for the corporation I worked for. While I've let my certifications lapse I still receive a lot email in the field, which I've found pretty helpful in my personal life. In any case, and the reason I am posting here, is an email I received today regarding a retaliatory attack by the Syrian Electronic Army (SEA) if the US launches a first strike. It's an interesting read.

http://blogs.csoonline.com/global-security/2759/could-syria-launch-major-cyberattack-against-usa

Interesting link Rick. Thanks for posting that. I think that site is sure worth spending some time browsing around.

[Desert Rat!]

Is it just me or is John Kerry looking more and more like John Smiley?

http://ashpolitics.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/guysmiley.jpg (http://ashpolitics.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/guysmiley.jpg) yeah he does have that streachy smooth just got back from the cosmetic surgeon look.

[COWBOYSURVIVAL]

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2013/09/g20-ends-abruptly-as-obama-calls-putin-a-jackass.html

[Ken]

First it was all of the apologies. Next it was our skyrocketing national debt and our financial indebtedness to foreign powers. Then it was our financial and military aid to our enemies at the expense of our friends. Now, it's Syria.

The world is beginning to laugh at the United States, thanks to........

[Ranger F]

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2013/09/g20-ends-abruptly-as-obama-calls-putin-a-jackass.html


Is this true?

[BENESSE]

No it's not.

[LowKey]

As someone posted above, 150,000 people, many or mostly civilians, have already been killed in Syria. AND CHILDREN, you've no doubt noticed the recent emphasis on child count has been added to drive the point home in attempts to garner public support.
The time to intercede has long since passed.

No unilateral strikes. Not with, and certainly not without Congress approval.

I'm not in favor of escalating tensions to 'save face'. In feudal Japan, saving face sometimes meant having to commit seppuku. Have at it. Privately. And leave the rest of the US (and our military) out of it so we have the resources for the greater threat – a nuclear Iran.

[BENESSE]

The best way to save face is to keep your mouth closed, to begin with.

[Ken]

The best way to save face is to keep your mouth closed, to begin with.

Some people need to open it to change feet.

[Rick]

I guess I have to be different. I see no place in a civilized world for anyone that uses poison gas. However, there are some things that have to be stated.

1. It has to be proved that it was used (I don't personally have to know but if I were the President I'd want absolute confirmation).
2. You don't open your mouth and put yourself in the proverbial wet paint corner by saying something stupid like, "that's a game changer" and then not do anything but flap your gums going forward.
3. You strike, you strike decisively, you strike discreetly and you strike at the cause of the problem. And you don't worry about what Putin or CCTV has to say about it. Apologize after the fact if you feel so compelled.
4. You sleep soundly knowing you rid the world of one more lunatic.


What you don't do is allow it to continue unchallenged. What you don't do is proclaim Russia is important to the decision when they haven't been important in the Middle East in 35 years. What you don't do is keep threatening with a strike that you probably have no intention of delivering. What you don't do is send mixed messages to the world's leaders.

[Sourdough]

And didn't the American Government gas our own citizens...........????


[QUOTE=Rick;411719] I see no place in a civilized world for anyone that uses poison gas. QUOTE]

[Ken]

May I? :innocent:

I despise the fact that noncombatant deaths - "collateral damage" is a term that offends me - can rarely be avoided in war. In a perfect world, disputes would be resolved the way guys like me resolve them, unless we have no choice but to resort to violence for self defense or in defense of others.

That having been said, I have difficulty understanding the argument that chemical warfare - which in this instance has been shown to kill quickly - is any more objectionable than conventional weapons. I, for one, would rather die after a few minutes of agony than to lie there bleeding out from 3 rounds to my abdomen or after getting my legs half-blown off by an IED, bomb, grenade, or missile.

But I digress....

Nothing, NOTHING, we do in Syria will win us any friends anywhere. Assad is a maggot and a murderer. However, he is still better than al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood. Did you see the video of the rebels hacking the heads off of two Christians, including a priest?

Is beheading less objectionable than chemical warfare? It isn't to me.

Let the Arab world deal with this. I'm tired of watching the United States play policeman for the world. Protecting and defending our allies is one thing. Aiding those who would hack our heads off if given the opportunity is something else.

[randyt]

Like Archie Bunker would say "would you feel better if they were pushed out of windows?"

[Ken]

Syria will not pose a substantial threat to the United States unless we meddle in its affairs. I wouldn't put it past any of the players to strike us through terrorism or cyber war if we fail to mind our own business.

Now lets talk about Iran. Now THERE'S a threat to the United States and our allies. We'd be far better off using our cruise missiles - and MOABs and whatever else we need to use - to target Iran's nuclear weapons development facilities. THAT is something I would support in an instant.

[Desert Rat!]

Is this true?I don't think he's got a pair big enough to say that, at least not to his face.:blink:

[crashdive123]

I don't think he's got a pair big enough to say that, at least not to his face.:blink:

The article reporting it was satire - nothing more.

[Rick]

And didn't the American Government gas our own citizens...........????

I have no idea what your reference is and even if Sarin gas or some equivalent were used on U.S. Civilians (I'd sure like to see a link) I know you don't believe that because we did it then it's okay. My comment still stands.

@Randy - No. While I abhor war in all it's many faces we have to draw the line somewhere as to what is acceptable and what is not acceptable.

@Ken - I disagree. We are the preeminent power in the Middle East for whatever good it does us. Iran is a close second. The unabated use of gas warfare anywhere is a threat to all of us. If the U.S. does not respond it projects a picture of weakness to our enemies in the region and places our allies at risk. A surgical strike using cruise missiles and other non manned munitions tells the world that the use of gas warfare is outside the bounds of civility. Again...assuming such use can be verified.

@ All - The flood of refugees into neighboring countries like Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, Iraq and Turkey now totals some 2 million by estimates I've read. Approximately 1 million of those are children. Those numbers alone have a destabilizing effect on the host countries as they try to struggle with food, medical and sanitary relief for the refugees. Remember, these are countries that are already feeling the burden of poorer economies, internal strife and outright war. Adding hundreds of thousands of refugees only adds to their burden. Another 4+ million have lost their homes within Syria. The use of gas warfare only serves to push those homeless into neighboring countries further increasing the problem in the host countries.

I'm a bit dumbfounded that we as a people would say, it doesn't affect us, it's not our problem, let them deal with it. Where would you personally draw the line? Would the use of nuclear weapons be okay? How about biological weapons? I challenge you to look in the mirror and tell the person you are looking at that gas warfare is perfectly acceptable as long as it's somewhere else and we don't have to dirty our hands with it.

Again.....assuming its use can be proven.

[BENESSE]

We don't have the luxury or the resources to act unilaterally every time we think a great wrong has been committed in the world. We can't claim the moral high road or a legal right to do so, even if we could afford it.
Every time we acted alone it blew up in our face and we lost...not just our lives but our credibility.
The "cowboy mentality" we still embrace is abhorred around the world including among our friends. It is time to evolve our tactics because the world has changed, and the warfare is not what it used to be in WW2--the last time we marched home as true heroes.
It's time to get real, or suffer the consequences of living in denial.

[crashdive123]

@Rick - here's why it is such a problem (for me). While the Assad regime is bad and brutal - of that there can be no doubt - I believe that what is trying to replace him is much, much worse.

In the news we here them called rebels, freedom fighters and moderates. That may have been the case a year or two ago, but now they should accurately be called The Muslim Brotherhood, Al Qaeda and extremists. There are now reports - quite a few actually - that the "rebels" have also used chemical weapons. Were they to topple the Assad regime and gain access to the stockpiles (by some accounts) of the chemical weapons then not only is the region in greater jeopardy, but the rest of the world is as well. The rebels are also committing genocide by systematically executing Christians in Syria. With them in power I believe that activity would continue and expand.

I also believe that a symbolic "shot across the bow" will do nothing to stop what is going on in the region. The administration has stated that regime change is not the goal. They have stated that the response would be limited and brief. I'm not sure what the goal is with military intervention with the current administration. Maybe that will be revealed in the address to the nation on Tuesday.

Ridding Syria of chemical weapons has not been stated as a goal, but the Defense Department has said it would take at least 75,000 troops on the ground to do that.

There are certainly no easy answers on this one. Even if we had all of the facts, which I don't believe we do, it would be difficult.

[Rick]

Both of you make compelling points and I can't disagree with anything you've said. There are a lot of brutal dictators in the world and history has given us plenty of terrible examples. You can't go after a dictator on that basis alone. The threat of WMD or even the verified existence of them isn't sufficient to intervene. That's two reasons I was adamantly opposed to the invasion of Iraq. There are several others but not germane to Syria.

However, and I can't stress this enough, if the use of WMD can be verified then he has crossed a line that no one can be allowed to cross. What comes after this goof ball is a concern but, frankly, it is NOT our concern. That area of the world has always been full of warring factions and it probably always will be. Iraq and Afghanistan has taught us that if nothing more. If nothing is done what message does that send to Libya, N. Korea or Iran. All of whom have WMD and crazies at the helm? If the rebels used it then the same thing applies to them. Those responsible have to suffer for their decision. This isn't aimed at just the regime.

I'm not talking about ridding the region of WMD either. However, a strategic strike does send the message that the use of WMD is not acceptable, it reassures our friends and allies in the region that we are serious about protecting them, and more importantly, it tells our enemies that we stand firm on what we will not allow to happen. Frankly, Iran should be a major concern here since they are funding and training most of these Islamic radical groups.

I completely agree that we don't have all the facts. I'm convinced the reason we have not taken this issue before the U.N. is because China and Russia would veto any move against Assad. That bothers me. It reeks that we either don't have sufficient evidence or we are making something up, which would not be a shocker to me.

B - I would suggest that our cowboy mentality has a lot less to do with how our friends view us than our complete lack of moral character. When we stand eyeball to eyeball with our friends and lie without even a smile they learn to stand with their back against the wall for fear the next knife might be pointed at their back. When you tell the world a country has WMD, that enriched uranium was shipped from Africa to Iraq, that the country was connected to 9/11, our Justice Department comes to the brilliant conclusion that the articles of the Geneva Convention don't apply to Afghanistan, in short when you build the evidence to suit your policy then your credibility, even among your friends, suffers.

[Ken]

Just a comment....

We invaded Iraq 10 years ago to destroy many or most of the very same chemical weapons we're discussing here. Saddam had enough time to ship them over the border before our well publicized invasion, just like he moved his sophisticated military aircraft into Iran before Desert Storm.

[BENESSE]

Let the Arab League handle their own mess and deal with their own thug for a change. They have the money, they have the resources...or, as Sarah Palin said, let Allah sort it out.
Our "help" is not appreciated, and so far has produced exactly 0 results. We all know what the definition of stupidity is...how long are we going to keep doing it?

[Sourdough]

Have any of you read "Whirlwind" by James Clavell ???? It is great read for learning about the tribes in the middle east.

[Ken]

Have any of you read "Whirlwind" by James Clavell ???? It is great read for learning about the tribes in the middle east.

Yep. I've read everything Clavell's written.

Shogun, Tai Pan, King Rat, ......

[Ken]

Here's a good read from 2009:

Assad urges US to rebuild diplomatic road to Damascus

In rare interview, Syrian leader calls on Obama to restore envoy and make good on promise of dialogue

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/feb/17/assad-interview-syria-obama

[rebel]

In rare interview, Syrian leader calls on Obama to restore envoy and make good on promise of dialogue

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/feb/17/assad-interview-syria-obama

Send this guy (no disrespect intended): http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Christopher_Stevens

[Rick]

I gotta find me a different planet.

[Solar Geek]

Yep. I've read everything Clavell's written.

Shogun, Tai Pan, King Rat, ......
Me too. Whirlwind is one of the reasons I started to learn bushcraft and prep and garden and get away from the cities.

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