In YOUR OPINION...

[Tootsiepop254]

In a true SHTF scenario, which state would provide the best bug out location for the average prepper (figure just a well-stocked BOB, some essentials in your trunk/bed, ect, without any extra goodies - snowmobiles, generators, ect)?

[Rick]

Depends on the S that HTF I guess and what area was hit the worst. Someone might say Oregon but if the S is Mt. Ranier blowing it's top then that wouldn't be the place to be. Someone else might say Florida but if it was a hurricane you might not want to be there either.

[SLVRBK]

I say Arkansas....... all 4 seasons, lakes and rivers, not overly populated, for the most part is densely wooded, minor seismic activity and no hurricanes (the flip side is they get tornadoes) or blizzards.

[Sourdough]

Well if it was a long term massive grid down, it is my understanding everyone on earth is dead meat. Northern Hemisphere first, then Southern. There was studies in the 50's that showed New Zealanders on the South Island had some chance.

I would choose Redding, California. or Medford, Oregon.

[chinookpilot77]

I like the upper south, lower midwest. TN, KY, WV, inner SC, North GA and AL are good too. Even southern IL wouldn't be bad if you could handle living in a communist state. Arkansas might be good too, but I've never been there. LA maybe? East Texas?

[Tootsiepop254]

LOL Texas would close their boarders in such a situation and be self-sufficient!

[canid]

The state of readiness.

In seriousness though, my own. I'm already here, my stuff is already here, the mutual support network of my local friends and family. Everybody else should bug out for somewhere though; it's kinda crowded ;D

[SLVRBK]

LOL Texas would close their boarders in such a situation and be self-sufficient!

My only negative comment about the great Republic of Texas is it gets HOTTER and I mean HOTTER than hell here which would make for miserable summers (that is coming from a guy who owns a bug out property in Texas).

[LowKey]

What makes anyone think they can jump in a truck or grab their bob and head out to some other state. Already people there. If S has truly hit the F, the natives won't take kindly to strangers. That post about Texas closing its borders - that sounds about right.

[hunter63]

Question would be ....are you prepared to move there?.....When?...Now?...or after TSHTF?

As far a location, pro and cons everywhere, and area that are the most hospitable would be for others as well.......so might get crowded quick.

There will be others there, that already own the land, will keep out invaders, raiders, squatters......and unwanted outlaws/in-laws.
Transportation can be a real challenge, with crowded roads, possible bridges out, wreaks, lack of fuel stops/shortages...even grid, phone, internet power to run pumps, cash register's......So where ever you are headed, best be with-in on tanks of fuel.

My plan is to stay where I'm at, which depending where I am at the time.....gives me a few options in south Wisconsin.

[1stimestar]

For me and most scenarios, right here where I am. For the general public though, they wouldn't make it through the winter.

[Batch]

Well if it was a long term massive grid down, it is my understanding everyone on earth is dead meat. Northern Hemisphere first, then Southern. There was studies in the 50's that showed New Zealanders on the South Island had some chance.

I would choose Redding, California. or Medford, Oregon.

I don't get the whole grid down thing. What is that will kill everybody? Nuclear power plants melting down?

If there was a permanent power outage and I don't see why there ever would be. Banishing man generated power just doesn't make sense as generators are easy enough to construct. Take away fossil fuels and you still have hydropower, steampower, biofuels such as ethanol. I mean alcohol distillation is fairly simple, even more so if you ain't worried about separating the heads.

Either way I'll probably just set up in an Oak Hammock and let the transplants sort themselves out if there is civil unrest.

[Cast-Iron]

Great question! I suspect many people ask that same question everyday. The best answer is likely to be different for each of us depending upon many different variables: the nature of the crisis, where you're starting from geographically, the resources already in your possession, your level of preparation and planning, the timing of the event, and what your capabilities are.
It may not be possible to travel any significant distance by road, river or rail. Maybe you're a bush pilot with a small plane and that would give you more flexibility in getting where you want to go? Maybe you're a triathlete who can cover vast distances on foot? I am neither.
My approach has been to evaluate what I felt were my strengths and weaknesses. Develop some kind of probability for the likelihood of various crisis scenarios, and then see how I could improve my situation in those scenarios I felt most likely to happen. Working down the list for greater preparedness as time and resources permit. Much of this is discussed in detail in posts, blogs, forums, and video all over the net. Allow yourself some time to determine what makes the most sense for your particular situation. Develop a game plan. Initiate the plan.

[Ken]

MAINE

http://www.usa.com/maine-state-natural-disasters-extremes.htm

[BENESSE]

If we're just talking in generalities, then JW Rawls (the author of "Patriots" and the Srvival Blog) believes the ideal state is Idaho where he has his own retreat set up and lives there. His reasons make sense but I can't see myself schlepping there from here.

[Sourdough]

I don't get the whole grid down thing. What is that will kill everybody? Nuclear power plants melting down?

The problem is the spent fuel rods and keeping them cooled. With a massive grid down the back-up diesel generators have three to five days of fuel on site. If more fuel is not delivered the generators stop pumping and cooling. For the most part the wind flow in America is from the West, but there are also hundreds of nuclear plants in Europe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91JZCbGLCvk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNo9wysNVPQ

AND IN TODAYS NEWS................http://www.zerohedge.com/node/477775

[Rick]

Not to mention all the wind farms, mirror farms, and all the biofuel plants. Nuclear is less than 20% of the power generated in the U.S.

Just curious, Tootsie, did you get you question answered? :thumbup1:

[Sourdough]

Nuclear is less than 20% of the power generated in the U.S.

If a hacker or solar flare takes down the grid in say only 14 states...............how do you cool the spent fuel rods.......???

[Cast-Iron]

If we're just talking in generalities, then JW Rawls (the author of "Patriots" and the Srvival Blog) believes the ideal state is Idaho where he has his own retreat set up and lives there. His reasons make sense but I can't see myself schlepping there from here.

I've watched some video with him and listened to a few broadcasts he's been on. His presentation is thorough and convincing. What I'm not sure he has taken into account is the type of situation Idaho finds itself in today. Massive wildfires threatening thousands of homes. If we had a crisis or event that required some kind of mass exodus, what would happen to all of these firefighting assets? The same is true for all of the mountain west. Fires happen every summer throughout the region. Losses are only kept to a minimum now because of the application of substantial resources. I doubt these resources would be available under many crisis scenarios. Fires would grow unchecked until the weather or lack of fuel ended the event. In rough mountainous terrain, fires such as this can easily move faster than a person's ability to outrun it. Something I think worthy of consideration when selecting possible BOLs.

[Rick]

You are making the assumption that fuel can't be provided to the generators. In any case, I think it a high unlikely scenario.

[canid]

If a hacker or solar flare takes down the grid in say only 14 states...............how do you cool the spent fuel rods.......???

By misunderstanding nuclear waste management?

[Rick]

We might be in bigger trouble with human waste management if all the pumps are down.

[Tootsiepop254]

We might be in bigger trouble with human waste management if all the pumps are down.

A truly ****ty situation.

[crashdive123]

To answer the OP......

Kind of difficult unless we know:

Type of S that HTF?
Cause of the S that HTF?
How widespread is the S that HTF?
How long to recover from the S that HTF?

[Cast-Iron]

You are making the assumption that fuel can't be provided to the generators. In any case, I think it a high unlikely scenario.

Not much of an assumption considering the events that transpired at the TEPCO reactors in Fukushima clearly demonstrated it can happen. Emergency plans only have the capacity to work if you have accurately defined the scale and scope of the event. Geologists are discovering new faults here in the US with some regularity. Seismic events are probably the greatest natural threat to nuclear plant infrastructure. Many of these plants are located on or near potentially hazardous faults. What happens when the reactor was engineered to withstand a magnitude 7 earthquake experiences a 7+ event?

[Rick]

I thought you were going to put me on ignore. As to the post, I don't care either way. It's looks like we're all doomed I guess.

[Cast-Iron]

I thought you were going to put me on ignore. As to the post, I don't care either way. It's looks like we're all doomed I guess.

I don't recall saying I was going to ignore your posts. Believe that was your idea.

Again you take my position to some dramatic extreme. We're not doomed, but there are many economically viable alternatives that don't saddle our progeny with radioactive waste. They can also experience systemic failure without compounding the problem. Energy storage has long been a supply issue for renewables, but hydrogen generation and concentrated solar power both offer scalable solutions for that particular problem.

[finallyME]

I've watched some video with him and listened to a few broadcasts he's been on. His presentation is thorough and convincing. What I'm not sure he has taken into account is the type of situation Idaho finds itself in today. Massive wildfires threatening thousands of homes. If we had a crisis or event that required some kind of mass exodus, what would happen to all of these firefighting assets? The same is true for all of the mountain west. Fires happen every summer throughout the region. Losses are only kept to a minimum now because of the application of substantial resources. I doubt these resources would be available under many crisis scenarios. Fires would grow unchecked until the weather or lack of fuel ended the event. In rough mountainous terrain, fires such as this can easily move faster than a person's ability to outrun it. Something I think worthy of consideration when selecting possible BOLs.

Exactly, the mountain west is the worst place. California, Texas, or Maine are the best places.

[Rick]

Emergency plans only have the capacity to work if you have accurately defined the scale and scope of the event.

Unless you are or have been a certified disaster recovery or business continuity professional and have worked as same please don't try to educate me on disaster planning.


Again you take my position to some dramatic extreme. We're not doomed, but there are many economically viable alternatives that don't saddle our progeny with radioactive waste. They can also experience systemic failure without compounding the problem. Energy storage has long been a supply issue for renewables, but hydrogen generation and concentrated solar power both offer scalable solutions for that particular problem.

Your opinion on the subject doesn't interest me but thanks.

[Sourdough]

You are making the assumption that fuel can't be provided to the generators. In any case, I think it a high unlikely scenario.

So, you feel that a "X" Class solar flare or an EMP from a nuclear devise or a Government sponsored Hacker is unlikely ??? What I find interesting is all of the "Unlikely" stuff that is really happening on planet Earth today.

[Rick]

I think I have a LOT more things to worry about that happen a lot more frequently than either of those. I invest my time and resources on common occurrences that I can mitigate.

EDIT: You modified your post after I responded but I'll still go with it.

[Sourdough]

EDIT: You modified your post after I responded but I'll still go with it.

Yes, I added government sponsored Hackers. My guess is that it is only a short time till government sponsored Hackers find a way into American or Canadian fuel and/or water pipeline pumps. Or direct access to the power grid distribution computers.

[Rick]

It's certainly all possible. But what if they do? What can you do about it? I can't control either. I can only react to the event. I have water storage and a generator that were put in place for more common interruptions. Hopefully, those will work in the short term. The outlying events, although possible, are not something I worry about. A blizzard or thunderstorm that knocks out power or a broken water line are much more common events and the type of things I plan for.

[Cast-Iron]

Unless you are or have been a certified disaster recovery or business continuity professional and have worked as same please don't try to educate me on disaster planning.


Really? Seriously? How asinine can you be? I was merely stating the obvious shortcomings of the TEPCO safety plans for the events surrounding the earthquake and ensuing tsunami on March 11, 2011 at the Fukushima Daiichi Power Plant. These aren't my opinions sir, they're fact. That four letter word you seem so willing to dismiss with ease. The fact is they weren't prepared and SHTF as a result. We now have a highly contaminated Pacific Ocean as a result. The only meaningful unknown is the extent of the contamination and how far it has and will continue to spread?

FYI, I have a Bachelor of Science degree in Construction Management, from a highly accredited School of Architecture. It included over 30 semester hours in various engineering disciplines. Among them 16 credit hours of structural engineering. I am quite familiar with the design criteria and calculations used for safely engineering concrete, steel and wooden structures. Something you have neither indicated nor demonstrated to have any technical proficiency in. As for an opinion on the subject that doesn't hold interest or credibility, back at you!

[Rick]

That's so nice. That's so very, very nice. Congratulations. I'm sure mom's proud.

[SLVRBK]

Yes, I added government sponsored Hackers. My guess is that it is only a short time till government sponsored Hackers find a way into American or Canadian fuel and/or water pipeline pumps. Or direct access to the power grid distribution computers.

This is directed at the entire conversation and ya'll can figure out how to interpret this on your own. I work in the anti-terrorism realm with government agencies and Fortune 100 energy sector companies daily. Securing critical infrastructure pays all my bills. This is my opinion and my alone......

The grid is being hacked a million times as day. Terrorists are looking at your refineries, waterways, dams, grid, offshore platforms, pipelines, control centers, oil reserves etc. etc. etc. daily. There are multiple security entities that have established regulations that protect these assets such as MTSA, TSA Pipeline, NERC, FERC, CFATS, NEB, DoE, DoD, TWIC, ISPS, C-TPAT. But! And this is a BIG a$$ BUT! Who do they really protect these assets from? They protect these assets from you, me and the kid with a .22 plinking what looks to be a cool target. This is no secret, if they want to shut infrastructure down they are going to. Who will get the essentials? Government. State SOC's. And people who protect those interests.

I have a small energy sector client that has 15,000 hacking attempts on them daily. Think about that. The Joint Terrorism Task Force also interviewed two Al Jazeera reporters videoing a major oil facility in Texas City recently. Create your own plan, test it, test it again and roll with it. Group hug.

[hunter63]

I have enough to do and worry about...things I can effect change and be ready for, or at least I think so....the EMP's, Nuke waste, grid hacks, asteroids and terrorist attacks are really not in my plans other than depend on my meager, preps, knowledge and desire to survive.

I guess my short range plans and preps for being off grid, and as self sufficient as possible for storms, flood, tornado, blizzards and attacks on identity and scams......will have to carry the day.........Those are something I can do something about.....I don't worry too much about the things I can't control.

Carry on......

[Rick]

SLVBK - I don't want to speak for SD but I think his concern is actually taking a system down rather than simply gaining access. We know that happens day in and day out in one form or another.

Would you agree that those 15,000 hacking attempts daily are probably probing events rather than hacking? It's one thing to automatically probe ips looking for an easy target. That can be done quickly and you can do a lot of ips over the course of a day. To actually attempt to physically gain access through firewalls is a bit harder. And it's not just terrorists that are in the servers looking around. Other countries and, in some cases, other companies are engaging in corporate espionage to try and gain a competitive advantage.

[SLVRBK]

SLVBK - I don't want to speak for SD but I think his concern is actually taking a system down rather than simply gaining access. We know that happens day in and day out in one form or another.

Would you agree that those 15,000 hacking attempts daily are probably probing events rather than hacking? It's one thing to automatically probe ips looking for an easy target. That can be done quickly and you can do a lot of ips over the course of a day. To actually attempt to physically gain access through firewalls is a bit harder. And it's not just terrorists that are in the servers looking around. Other countries and, in some cases, other companies are engaging in corporate espionage to try and gain a competitive advantage.

You are correct, the majority of it is probing. However, countries like China, North Korea and our "friends" at Al-Qaeda are also looking to bring systems down. Thankfully SCADA systems and security regulations like CIP (Critical Infrastructure Protection through NERC, CFATS and others) seem to be doing a decent job...... for now. Keep in mind, I am not an IT guru but can definitely provide some intel through a co-worker of mine if needed. Keep in mind, you can also bring a system down with out directly attacking a system. I'm not going to spell it out on the net but doing such a thing through our waterway systems is the easiest way to do so. Scary stuff.....

[Tootsiepop254]

Just curious, Tootsie, did you get you question answered? :thumbup1:

LOL Rick, partially. I'd love to know what everyone thinks. I get the bugging in thing, and its a great plan - practical, as that's where you're most comfortable, and have most of your supplies. You know the territory, dangers and safe places.

Unless you live in the middle of the danger zone. Then you just MIGHT be better off heading for the hills. Living in my area, where people have nothing better to do than gang bang and get into trouble, I sense big trouble in the event of a SHTF.

I plan on moving to an area where I actually feel safe. I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts on where THEY would go and why, mostly out of curiosity.

Don't worry, I won't be moving in with any of you - just gathering information. Which is, after all, why we're here, right? :whistling:

[Rick]

Unless you can devise a scenario then any answer is meaningless. If someone has to leave for another location the parameters that define "where" are all dictated by the event. I hope that makes sense.

[Ken]

Don't worry, I won't be moving in with any of you - just gathering information.

Nobody's going to want to move in with me tonight.

There's a great possibility that my neighborhood, possibly the entire town, will have to evacuate tonight. And if a disaster strikes, it will be a man-made disaster. A toxic gas release. Mine, in fact.

You see, I went to the grocery store the other day and tossed, among countless other items, a beautiful looking slab of salt pork into my carriage. Well, I opened up the fridge when I got home today and there it was - a pound of salt pork looking straight at me. And I thought about dinner....

So, I cubed up that salt pork and fried it up nice and slow until it was just crispy and brown enough. AND THEN, I opened a LARGE can - one of them 4-serving sized cans - of them Bush's Baked Beans - the ones with onions, maple syrup, and a tiny piece of pork - and tossed it into a pan with all of that beautiful crispy salt pork.

And after it was done, I ate it. ALL of it.

I figure that the neighbors will start dialing 911 in a couple of hours or so. :blushing:

[BENESSE]

I figure that the neighbors will start dialing 911 in a couple of hours or so. :blushing:

Hope they can get to you before you asphyxiate yourself. If not, it's been real.

[Ken]

Hope they can get to you before you asphyxiate yourself. If not, it's been real.

I'm having a canary delivered to the house. Hope it arrives soon.

[crashdive123]

My condolences to the canary.

[Ken]

My condolences to the canary.

I have the air filters running on high.

[BENESSE]

I guess your GF bugged out ahead of time?

[crashdive123]

I have the air filters running on high.

Yeah, but just in case.......

http://www.ourlittleplace.com/images/canary.jpg

[Ken]

She'll be back tomorrow afternoon. She's babysitting her niece and nephew tonight. How could I possibly allow an opportunity like this go to waste?

[Ken]

They still keep canaries on subs?

[crashdive123]

Just remember the two give aways when she walks in......hang time and peeling paint.

[crashdive123]

They still keep canaries on subs?

Nah. That's what junior officers are for.

[Ken]

It figures. The hepa filter replacement light just lit up on one of the Honeywells. Those beans just cost me $149.00. :sneaky2:

[Ken]

Nah. That's what junior officers are for.

Smart fellas, huh?

[Rick]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_9KExG695FiY/TG00HBwnI_I/AAAAAAAACpE/3nlxN4m4lJY/s200/fart.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_9KExG695FiY/TG00HBwnI_I/AAAAAAAACpE/3nlxN4m4lJY/s200/fart.jpg)

And in other news.....

Massachusetts DNR agents are investigating the death of dozens of squirrels after a mysterious odor last night.

"It's kinda weird," stated Officer Buck Trapper. "All the danged squirrels were not only dead but fried. All the animals have been confiscated along with a case of beer."

[Ken]

Don't laugh. My beagles will not be pleased. I may end up sleeping on the deck.

[DSJohnson]

So are you talking about finding a place after the beginning of the event or now? I would vote for you to pick a spot now and get to it now and establish your self there now. While you can still hire having the water well dug and neat things like that. I doubt that it will be very easy to drive much father than what ever your gas tank has in it when the event starts because I figure gasoline will be among the very first things we lose access to. so no driving from New York to Utah after the first 8 or 10 hours IMHO I figure it would be a miracle if a person could make it 200 miles cross country by vehicle after the start of an event. I think traveling will be extremely hard and may be very dangerous almost immediately.

[Tootsiepop254]

Unless you can devise a scenario then any answer is meaningless. If someone has to leave for another location the parameters that define "where" are all dictated by the event. I hope that makes sense.

Let's go with economic collapse. Or an equally good; multiple major natural disasters (major earthquake or wild fires in the west, tornadoes or hurricanes elsewhere close together timewise), no gov't resources (or not enough), the natives get restless, ect.

[Rick]

I would vote for you to pick a spot now and get to it now and establish your self there now.

+1. I do like that suggestion. I've never understood the thinking of buying "bug out" property hundreds of miles away. If you think that's the safe place then why not just move there? And what makes one place any safer than another? It's not my money and ya'll can do with yours whatever you like but I sure don't understand it.

[Tootsiepop254]

So are you talking about finding a place after the beginning of the event or now? I would vote for you to pick a spot now and get to it now and establish your self there now. While you can still hire having the water well dug and neat things like that. I doubt that it will be very easy to drive much father than what ever your gas tank has in it when the event starts because I figure gasoline will be among the very first things we lose access to. so no driving from New York to Utah after the first 8 or 10 hours IMHO I figure it would be a miracle if a person could make it 200 miles cross country by vehicle after the start of an event. I think traveling will be extremely hard and may be very dangerous almost immediately.


I absolutely agree, and plan to move, hopefully in early spring.

[crashdive123]

I absolutely agree, and plan to move, hopefully in early spring.

Keep in mind what is most likely when planning your move.

If you are still of working age - job availability.
Kids of school age - proximity to quality schools or home school.
Distance to family.
Population density.
Crime statistics
and on, and on.

Also keep in mind when preparing for "what is most likely" we often think of weather (tornado, hurricane, drought, etc.) or maybe it's terrorism, or an accident (train derailment, chemical plant fire, etc). As we age, we find that we aren't as invincible as we once were and that the most likely event may be in the form of needing medical help. Just all things to consider when making a plan.

[DSJohnson]

So if your question is: where a good place to live now then I would echo Crash's comment's. You either have to be able to earn a living or "make" a living no matter where you live. Lots of things to consider. Location location location....... Good luck and please "keep us in the Loop!!" Tell us how it turns out for you!!!

[Wildthang]

I live close to lake Eerie out in the middle of corn and soy bean fields. I can not forsee ever having a water shortage, or a food shortage where I live. No hurricanes and not in an eathquake zone. It's not a mountain or wilderness paradise but it seems to be pretty good place to survive to me.
All of my neighjbors for iles around are farmers and almost all of them target practice and own guns, so mass zombies or gang bangers would be in real trouble in my kneck of the woods!
The only problem with where I live is that it can get real cold in the winter but I have all of that covered!

[Rick]

Wildthang, I would suggest that is a dangerous assumption to make. You have the Fermi 2 nuclear power plant at the border of Michigan and Ohio on Lake Erie, Davis-Bessie at Oak Harbor, Ohio on Lake Erie and Perry 1 on Lake Erie. A disaster at any one of those could contaminate Lake Erie or a large portion of the lake. Nuclear reactors in the U.S. have a remarkable safety record but it could happen. A serious volcanic eruption in the west could spread ash eastward rendering farmland sterile for years. While my preps look at the most likely event I might find myself straddled with the least likely are also included. I don't ever expect to be hit by a tsunami in Indiana but I learned a long time ago when it comes to disaster planning never say never. There is a category in disaster planning called Unknown Unknowns and those are the events that you cannot foresee and are completely unknown to you. Those have a funny way of nippin' you in the butt.

[BENESSE]

There is a category in disaster planning called Unknown Unknowns and those are the events that you cannot foresee and are completely unknown to you. Those have a funny way of nippin' you in the butt.

NOW, you bring that up? We were just humming along, preparing for the most likely, and you just couldn't leave it alone, could you?!

[Rick]

I've gone through and rated all the things that are commonly thought of as disasters but I know there are hidden ones out that you just can't plan for. About a month ago a small plane clipped the top of house here in Indy and landed in the back yard. Chances are neither the pilot nor the home owner had that on their disaster radar screen.

[BENESSE]

I've gone through and rated all the things that are commonly thought of as disasters but I know there are hidden ones out that you just can't plan for. About a month ago a small plane clipped the top of house here in Indy and landed in the back yard. Chances are neither the pilot nor the home owner had that on their disaster radar screen.


I might chalk that one up to $hit happens.

[Rick]

'Zactly. One of those Unknown Unknowns. Surprisingly though when you are budgeting for DR you have to include that category because something totally out of the blue is going to happen. I've seen SHTF in amazingly weird ways. Our call centers have two separate and distinct routes out of the building so if one cable gets cut the call traffic can still run over the other cable. At one center we had both cables cut within 20 minutes of each other...4 miles apart!! You can't plan for something like that.

[Ken]

You can't plan for something like that.

(You just KNOW I had to ask this, right?)

Wouldn't the plan for that be the same plan you would execute if a KNOWN possibility occurred? Like, for instance, a TOTAL LOSS of that particular call center, including BOTH cable routes at the points where they left the call center?

[Rick]

Well, yes and no. The cables left the building from different sides and routed from there in different directions. The second one was installed as part of disaster recovery so it was designed to never run parallel with the first. Once the call center was isolated then yes. We simply rerouted the inbound calls from that center to others spread out across the US. You can route 800 numbers by the originating area code (and even NPA if I remember correctly) and since we knew which area codes that center handled we just remapped them. The only commonality in any of the centers was the center switch itself. The feed cables actually routed to different central offices so even the loss of a central office would not have isolated the center. So an isolated center was covered in the plans but under the loss of the center switch, fire, pandemic (and a few others) and not under the loss of route cabling.

No different than planning for a tornado and invoking the same plans for that tsunami I don't expect to happen. The difference is I don't plan specifically for a tsunami no more than we planned to have both cables cut at the same time. That was, after all, the reason behind installing the second route.

[BENESSE]

If you tried to plan for EVERYthing, you'd eventually either have to be committed or on meds. Because you'd drive yourself insane.

[Ken]

If you tried to plan for EVERYthing, you'd eventually either have to be committed or on meds. Because you'd drive yourself insane.

Which is EXACTLY why I'm not planning for an invasion from aliens from the Northwestern Hemisphere of Mars. I mean, seriously, it couldn't be much different from invasions from the Northeastern Hemisphere, the Southwestern Hemisphere, or the Southeastern Hemisphere, right? And I already have plans for those three possibilities, so why bother with a fourth plan. That would be ridiculous!

[Rick]

(You just KNOW I had to ask this, right?)

Wouldn't the plan be the same plan you would execute for Hurricane or Blizzard or Extended Water Outage as for the Mars Invasion?

It's a funding bucket.

[Ken]

(You just KNOW I had to ask this, right?)

Wouldn't the plan be the same plan you would execute for Hurricane or Blizzard or Extended Water Outage as for the Mars Invasion?

It's a funding bucket.

I thought the same thing.......at first. However, I became privy to sensitive intelligence that was troubling to say the least.

The Northeastern Hemisphere invasion plans are to transport every city, town, and village - real estate included - aboard their mother ship and temporarily relocate us on Jupiter's moon Io. My sources are still trying to determine our final destination.

The Southeastern Hemisphere gang has perfected a method of molecular rearrangement that will turn all of the bacon, beef, lobster, and Chinese take-out food on Earth into rutabagas, knowing that violent mass rioting in the streets will lead to the virtual extinction of the human race.

The Southwestern Hemisphere contingent is the most evil of all on Mars. It plans to beam non-stop audible signals (the kind that easily pass through tin foil, mind you) of all of Sarge's bad jokes into our brains. If successful, mass suicides on Earth will commence within 15 minutes of the first attack.

However, we have a 98% confidence level in reports that the military units in the Northwestern Hemisphere, known as the Northwestern States Alliance, or NSA for short, has been intercepting all of the communications and plans of the other three hemispheres, and has formulated a hybrid plan, utilizing techniques developed by Monsanto, that will combine elements of those plans.

The way I figure it, if the Northwestern Hemisphere arrives here first, we'll all be rioting on Io while we try to choke ourselves to death on rutabagas. :crying:

[Ken]

HOWEVER, there is still hope. The use of Monsanto techniques will suddenly and unexpectedly cause all three Martian genders in all four Martian hemispheres to become completely sterile. Actuarial tables suggest that the entire Martian race will be extinct by the year 2134. Since they're not aware of this toxic threat to their own population, the threat to our planet will be gone in another 121 years - unless they deploy their forces prior to December 21, 2133.

[BENESSE]

Just gotta nose bleed reading Ken's explanation. :pinch:

[Ken]

Just gotta nose bleed reading Ken's explanation. :pinch:

Nose bleeds often occur when one is in close proximity to contaminated raisin bran. You can read all about it in volume 3, on page 1121, of the Raisin Bran Terrorist Poisoning Contingency Plan.

[hunter63]

Y'all are forgetting the "Rap music" defense......Played at warp 9 from 4 ft. speakers will repel any civil threat, from anywhere in the "Universe".........it all about shot placement

[Wildthang]

I came here for some nice laid back reading about wilderness survival, and now I want to get my tinfoil hat on and just kill some martians, and protest nuclear facilities:angry:

[BENESSE]

I came here for some nice laid back reading about wilderness survival, and now I want to get my tinfoil hat on and just kill some martians, and protest nuclear facilities:angry:

Or you can just choke Ken.:innocent:

[Ken]

Or you can just choke Ken.:innocent:

Ingrate! My first post was intended to show agreement with you and my second post was in response to Rick's question.

And what do you do? You solicit someone to murder me. I know your kind. :sneaky2:

"....Say what up to Ty Ty, still sipping mai tai
Sitting courtside, Knicks and Nets give me high fives
*****, I be spiked out, I can trip a referee
Tell by my attitude that I am most definitely from

...New York, concrete jungle where dreams are made..." Jay-Z & Alicia Keys

[BENESSE]

Ingrate! My first post was intended to show agreement with you and my second post was in response to Rick's question.

Oh..was that what it was?

And what do you do? You solicit someone to murder me. I know your kind. :sneaky2:

I was merely offering some constructive options...should've posted a link for reference, I guess.

"....Say what up to Ty Ty, still sipping mai tai
Sitting courtside, Knicks and Nets give me high fives
*****, I be spiked out, I can trip a referee
Tell by my attitude that I am most definitely from

...New York, concrete jungle where dreams are made..." Jay-Z & Alicia Keys

Boots in the concrete jungle
never in danger of any bungle.
Cause when you got attitude,
people give you lots of latitude.
Yo.

[Ken]

Boots in the concrete jungle
never in danger of any bungle.
Cause when you got attitude,
people give you lots of latitude.
Yo.

You may have a future in rap music.

[Rick]

Or a history for all you know. Word.

[Wildthang]

Or you can just choke Ken.:innocent:

A lawyers neck and head is so big, I will need a rope:smartass:

[1stimestar]

Heeheee. She said yo.

[crashdive123]

Heeheee. She said yo.

If she was talking to 2D she would've said yo y'all.

[Wildthang]

Now what was the topic of this thread:confused:

[your_comforting_company]

Los Angeles. Yeah.. everybody go to California. Georgia is just miserable ;)

[scumbucket]

I already live here, have everything I need, my own well, generator, septic system, underground bunker with a year's worth of grub, and the other essential stuff I'll need. I'm in some mountains in New Mexico. Population in this area is 199 on a good day. Remote, out of sight, out of mind, peaceful and quiet. These are the reasons I'm here.

[mtmike]

Me? I am just fine where I am,tall mountain,,can see "visitors" along way off,and I AM armed,,,,,,,see you around after TSHTF.

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