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RandyRhoads
08-12-2013, 03:07 PM
Spent a night in my hammock up in the Mendocino forrest this weekend. I was pretty far removed from anything. Just me and my little brother. I was up most of the night holding my gun worried about big critters eating me in my sleep. Don't thick populations of lions in my area so I rarely have to give that a thought. A tent is one thing, hear something, you can grab your gun and quietly get ready. Now in my hammock I felt a new feeling of danger. I was basically a giant meat cocoon suspended between two giant diving boards. I kept hearing branches around me cracking. All I could think of was a lion pouncing down on the hammock and gnawing on me before I could even get remotely close to a position to fire. I guess i'm kind of a puss. When I'm in the water, i'm always worried about great whites, and jaws music plays in my head on repeat. Now when i'm on land in the mountains, it's lions.

So do lions ever attack people in their sleep, or do they only go after people they can stalk?

What are the chances of them pouncing on a hammock while I sleep?

What can I do to ward them off? Any tips for night? If i'm going to spend 5-6 months hiking through mountains, I want to feel a little better. Maybe I just need to get the sand out of my....?

finallyME
08-12-2013, 03:26 PM
It's more like a bear burrito.

Don't worry, after a couple days on the trail, you will forget about it.

RandyRhoads
08-12-2013, 03:46 PM
That's what I was told about sharks after a few dives. Countless dives later and I still think i'm gonna need a bigger boat.

But even if I do forget about it i'm still curious about the possibility of being pounced on in the hammock. Do they attack sleeping prey?

RandyRhoads
08-12-2013, 03:49 PM
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/07/crews-continue-hunt-for-mountain-lion-that-attacked-sleeping-hiker.html

****.....

Wildthang
08-12-2013, 04:09 PM
Randy if a hungry cat comes along, he will eat you whether you are asleep or not. A large campfire and a good large mean azz watch dog is the best way to ward off cats.
When I hiked the Winding Staircase mountains in southeast Oklahoma, I always heard from the locals that there were a few cougars around. I always kept a large campfire in front of my shelter and rocks or trees to the back of the shelter when possible. I always slept like a baby and kept my knife in my hand as I slept. Actually a good knife is in my opinion a better weapon if you are attacked by an animal in your sleep because you probably have a much better chance of stabbing and cutting an attacking couger or bear than getting a shot off with a gun.

Just my opinion for what it's worth!

RandyRhoads
08-12-2013, 04:24 PM
Thanks, but a fire will be out of the question for most/all of my 211 mile hike. And a gun wont be legal to bring so a knife will be it....

Wildthang
08-12-2013, 04:52 PM
Thanks, but a fire will be out of the question for most/all of my 211 mile hike. And a gun wont be legal to bring so a knife will be it....

Borrow Ricks hong and nothing will mess with you!

Cast-Iron
08-12-2013, 05:16 PM
Randy the only story I can offer you is one told me by a veterinarian friend of mine. Happened about 20 years ago if memory serves me near Rifle, Colorado. The "Doc" is an avid elk hunter and makes at least one trip a year to western Colorado. One day, after stalking through a lot of wet grass, he stopped to remove his boots, wring out his wet socks, and dry his feet a bit on a big rock warming in the morning sun. He said he hadn't been there long when he got the uneasy feeling that something was watching him. He turned around to find a mature lion crouched motionless just yards away. Well he was bow hunting and had no firearm, so he nervously grabbed his bow and an arrow to defend his ground if necessary. I guess the fact that the lion realized he'd been spotted and all the commotion with the bow must have spooked it off. Mind you he is a practicing veterinarian with significant large and exotic animal experience. He knew what he saw! I informed him that I had always heard mountain lions would typically head for cover if they see, hear, or even smell a human. He concluded that there wasn't anywhere left for the lions to disappear into (in the lower 48 anyways) so they were likely left with little alternative when someone comes into these last bastions of wilderness. I think if you practiced a routine similar to those suggested for travel through bear habitat; it would do a great deal to reduce the attraction of your campsite to lions, bears, skunks, or whatever else goes bump in the night. Always a good idea to hike with a companion for a number of reasons. Even having a good dog is better than attempting it solo, but it adds to the logistics. I think you are at greater risk of a two-legged problem than a four-legged one but that's only my opinion.

RandyRhoads
08-12-2013, 06:33 PM
Thanks. What's the two legged problem, a bear standing on its legs haha

randyt
08-12-2013, 07:22 PM
It's a long story but I much prefer to have something as a break behind me. I don't think I could ever be at ease in a hammock

RandyRhoads
08-12-2013, 07:37 PM
It's a long story but I much prefer to have something as a break behind me. I don't think I could ever be at ease in a hammock

That's my thoughts as well. Easy to defend something while backed into a corner. I love everything about the hammock but I never saw this coming. Now it's too late, there's a lot to be said about feeling as safe as possible. Feeling like you're going to get mauled all night doesn't give much rest.

hunter63
08-12-2013, 07:39 PM
The odds of an attach would be pretty small, I would think.....unless you go looking for trouble, leave food out, and such.
So, buy a lottery ticket.....can't be lucky twice, right?

The second night you generally are so tired, you really don't care what happens.

Sourdough
08-12-2013, 08:19 PM
Geeeeee's They don't want to get "AIDS".

Rick
08-12-2013, 08:29 PM
You guys have some active imaginations. Those limb snaps and leaf rustles are generally possum or raccoon or some other nocturnal critter. One whiff of you and they will most likely trot off in the opposite direction although I have had deer walk through my camp before.

If it's a real concern for you then you can fashion a fladry fence around your camp. I don't know whether it will work on big cats but it seems to work on wolves. Add a bell or two and you should know if anything is intent on coming through.

https://www.google.com/search?q=fladry+fencing&rlz=1C1RNCN_enUS360US360&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Y30JUtO0NYG9yAG_rYHoDQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1680&bih=909

roar-k
08-12-2013, 08:30 PM
Even after years of hammock camping my wife is still a little freaked out by it. like finallyME I told her we were basically bear burritos and there was nothing we could do if we were chosen as a midnight snack.

When tarp camping and hammock camping my senses always going into overdrive compared to tent camping. I have talked to quite a few friends and they are the same way. And by this I mean we sleep lighter than normal.

Must be something about feeling safer in a structure even if it couldn't stop a rampaging 3 year old.

Batch
08-12-2013, 09:15 PM
I woke up earlier this year to something sniffing my hammock. Rocked a little on purpose and it left and I went to sleep again.

My brother and his friend had a panther jump the trail in front of them a couple of months ago. It stretched and headed down the trail.

My veiw is if a what ever attacks you it won't matter what cloth thing you are in. We have had plenty of gators walk though camp. That a 12' gator walks through camp and you are a hanging snack is just something you deal with. The fact that no gator has eaten someone in a tent or hammock is something comforting though. LOL

Winter
08-12-2013, 09:31 PM
I don't think I'd hike where you can't carry a handgun.

When we tarp camp here, it's remote, and bears only come by the camp, never into the camp. We do leave food accessible to them, but, if they have never eaten human food, they are not attracted to it. IMO. Fried trout in garlic butter smells vastly different than a dead fish. The smell o humans is a threat.

Big kitties may not have these issues. I don't know.

RandyRhoads
08-12-2013, 10:25 PM
Omg sourdough I think I pissed myself. Awesome.

RandyRhoads
08-12-2013, 10:33 PM
Well I'm hiking the John muir trail, and hopefully the pacific crest next year. No guns carries through either. I guess I have to just deal with being part of the food chain like entering the ocean. Apparently bear proof canisters are not only recommended but also the law. Sounds like its unheard of to hike the whole thing without an encounter.

True the "cloth thing" won't matter if it wants to eat you, but in a tent if something rustles the side of the tent you can roll over grab the gun and at least have a foot or two buffer between you and it. The hammock is pretty much the same as sleeping on a downed log. Any sniffing or investigation is basically directly on you.

Hunter- stranger things have happened. A guy got hit by a white shark here. Within a couple weeks he was back in the water. Got hit again just a few miles away from the first attack. Got back in the water a few days after that. Talk about unlucky. Or lucky..

This solo 3 week hike is going to reek havoc on my kind and nerves, but hopefully ill come out of it refreshed, stronger, and feeling like a new man...

Rick
08-13-2013, 07:32 AM
Of course, if you wake up in the tent with something standing on top of you then it's pretty moot where the gun is.

finallyME
08-13-2013, 09:43 AM
The second night you generally are so tired, you really don't care what happens.

This pretty much addresses the situation. Once you are out past 3 nights, you really don't care that much. On a 3 week trip, you will get there, and realize there isn't much to be worried about.

Last month, on night 4, I thought I heard bigfoot. I rolled over and went back to sleep. I was too tired.

However, wait until you hear a fox calling in the night. That will put chills through your spine if you don't know what it is.

Rick
08-13-2013, 10:13 AM
Or a deer. That scream sounds just like a banshee murdering campers trapped in hammocks just down the trail. The first time I heard a deer scream at night I ran right out of my hong!

hunter63
08-13-2013, 11:23 AM
OK 4 guys sleeping in a pop-up camper, (canvas ends)......in the middle of a prairie, next to Old Women Creek, in Wyoming.

Was tired, catching something, didn't feel well, in a bad mood......3 other were snoring away.
Heard some crashing around outside, lot's of crashing and banging.......then the guy sleeping on the upper bunk, had some push on his feet thru the canvas...and he slide 6 inches on his bunk........everyone was now awake.

Big foot was attacking us.......WTF, OMG.....
Now we had enough firearms inside the trailer to turn the tide at Custer's Last Stand.....but no one wanted to go face the monster.

I had to take a leak, and was in a bad mood anyway, so stepped out and came face to face with a herd of horses...take were walking thru camp, knocking stuff over, and generally making a racket.

AS I stepped out to the edge of the tarp....our "porch", and was watering the dirt, they slowing went on their way.....looking back at the door was 3 white faces (in the moon light).looking out the door....with a "What the heck is it?

"Horses, ...It's just horses...Go back to sleep".......we are in the horse pasture, guy that owned the land was a rancher, and these were his quarter horses.
This night went down in history as "The night we were attacked by Big Foot".
(Note: hard to fight off monsters when you are taking a whizzz)

Rick
08-13-2013, 12:10 PM
Hunter..... a REAL man can fight off monsters, take a whiz AND drink a beer without spilling a drop. Just don't forget what you're drinking.

hunter63
08-13-2013, 12:34 PM
Hunter..... a REAL man can fight off monsters, take a whiz AND drink a beer without spilling a drop. Just don't forget what you're drinking.

I'll work on that....a worthy goal.

roar-k
08-13-2013, 12:55 PM
Of course, if you wake up in the tent with something standing on top of you then it's pretty moot where the gun is.

Well it may be mute until the gun goes off then it's a quite a bit louder.....heh.

Rick
08-13-2013, 01:03 PM
You must have thought I said mute instead of moot. :whistling:

Oddmott
08-13-2013, 02:57 PM
Actually a good knife is in my opinion a better weapon if you are attacked by an animal in your sleep because you probably have a much better chance of stabbing and cutting an attacking couger or bear than getting a shot off with a gun.



My opinion as well. Where i excursion hike/camp i'm at definite risk of bear & wolf attacks. I actually see more of both those species than I do any game animals larger than squirrels, any time from April-Nov.

It's pretty mediocre as a dependable "survival knife", but as a personal defense knife against larger predators, the Bushmaster is pretty much king.
http://www.hand-tools.com/images/brk/350w-UC212.jpg

I've tested it's penetration and strength against 1" lumber and can punch 4"-5" of blade through the wood. On both pig and whitetail carcasses I've been able to get the full 8" blade to penetrate, even through ribs and glancing off shoulders. The grip makes it very difficult to slip off or drop.

So far I haven't had to use it in such a way, and I'm unlikely to ever have to, but there's been a few 20ft standoffs & stare-downs with big black bears (i'm 250-260lbs and these buggers dwarfed me) that made me thankful I had it.
And another time when I was out photographing a late-season open beaver pond with beavers actively working in February that I DIDN'T have any sort of protection on me and i was circled for almost a half hour by a pack of 6 or 7 grey wolves, that I really missed it.

Up here in Ontario there's also increasing stories of attacks and near attacks on hunters by coyotes. Especially during turkey season. They come in so fast you often don't have a chance to swing your shotgun to shoot them before they've got your arm or your neck. Nice to have a big blade that can kill a 40lbs dog in one stab.

RandyRhoads
08-13-2013, 03:03 PM
Oh. Thought you were gonna say circled by 6 beavers with no knife. That would be scary, those things can kill people haha

Oddmott
08-13-2013, 03:11 PM
Oh. Thought you were gonna say circled by 6 beavers with no knife. That would be scary, those things can kill people haha

Even so... why are you laughing? :p

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2013/05/29/belarus-fatal-beaver-attack.html

RandyRhoads
08-13-2013, 03:28 PM
That's why...

welderguy
08-13-2013, 03:50 PM
As many times as I've slept on the ground, I never once thought about anything eating me. I do worry about snakes crawling up into my bedroll with me.

Desert Rat!
08-13-2013, 07:30 PM
I almost got trampled by range cattle one night sleeping on the ground, I thought it was Bigfoot, scared the hell out of me!!:eek:

RandyRhoads
08-13-2013, 08:01 PM
Damn maybe I am safer in a hammock haha...

Winter
08-13-2013, 10:23 PM
OK 4 guys sleeping in a pop-up camper, (canvas ends)......in the middle of a prairie, next to Old Women Creek, in Wyoming.

Was tired, catching something, didn't feel well, in a bad mood......3 other were snoring away.
Heard some crashing around outside, lot's of crashing and banging.......then the guy sleeping on the upper bunk, had some push on his feet thru the canvas...and he slide 6 inches on his bunk........everyone was now awake.

Big foot was attacking us.......WTF, OMG.....
Now we had enough firearms inside the trailer to turn the tide at Custer's Last Stand.....but no one wanted to go face the monster.

I had to take a leak, and was in a bad mood anyway, so stepped out and came face to face with a herd of horses...take were walking thru camp, knocking stuff over, and generally making a racket.

AS I stepped out to the edge of the tarp....our "porch", and was watering the dirt, they slowing went on their way.....looking back at the door was 3 white faces (in the moon light).looking out the door....with a "What the heck is it?

"Horses, ...It's just horses...Go back to sleep".......we are in the horse pasture, guy that owned the land was a rancher, and these were his quarter horses.
This night went down in history as "The night we were attacked by Big Foot".
(Note: hard to fight off monsters when you are taking a whizzz)


Hahaha, Our bigfoot attack was a humpback whale that got too shallow during low tide. Indescribable noises, best I could compare it too is 100 guys sprinting in gravel for 2-10 seconds at a time. It shook the earth a little.

Winter
08-13-2013, 10:24 PM
As many times as I've slept on the ground, I never once thought about anything eating me. I do worry about snakes crawling up into my bedroll with me.

Where in Tx are you? Fireants and skeeters tore me up down there.

welderguy
08-13-2013, 10:54 PM
Where in Tx are you? Fireants and skeeters tore me up down there.

Glen Rose for the most part, Surprisingly the two areas I go primitive in have very few skeeters and no fire ants. But I do very little primitive camping in skeeter season, I take the camper most trips.

Winter
08-13-2013, 11:04 PM
Skeeter season? So you only camp in January?

welderguy
08-13-2013, 11:10 PM
Skeeter season? So you only camp in January?

HAHAHAHA, There not too bad after september. summer is too damn hot even without skeeters!!!

Desert Rat!
08-13-2013, 11:16 PM
Damn maybe I am safer in a hammock haha...Not if it's Bigfoot! you'll be right at the perfect height for it to.. ah never mind it's too horrible to imagine.!

Winter
08-13-2013, 11:31 PM
Not if it's Bigfoot! you'll be right at the perfect height for it to.. ah never mind it's too horrible to imagine.!

Especially during bigfoot's rut. Hahahaha.

Winter
08-13-2013, 11:42 PM
My opinion as well. Where i excursion hike/camp i'm at definite risk of bear & wolf attacks. I actually see more of both those species than I do any game animals larger than squirrels, any time from April-Nov.

It's pretty mediocre as a dependable "survival knife", but as a personal defense knife against larger predators, the Bushmaster is pretty much king.
http://www.hand-tools.com/images/brk/350w-UC212.jpg

I've tested it's penetration and strength against 1" lumber and can punch 4"-5" of blade through the wood. On both pig and whitetail carcasses I've been able to get the full 8" blade to penetrate, even through ribs and glancing off shoulders. The grip makes it very difficult to slip off or drop.

So far I haven't had to use it in such a way, and I'm unlikely to ever have to, but there's been a few 20ft standoffs & stare-downs with big black bears (i'm 250-260lbs and these buggers dwarfed me) that made me thankful I had it.
And another time when I was out photographing a late-season open beaver pond with beavers actively working in February that I DIDN'T have any sort of protection on me and i was circled for almost a half hour by a pack of 6 or 7 grey wolves, that I really missed it.

Up here in Ontario there's also increasing stories of attacks and near attacks on hunters by coyotes. Especially during turkey season. They come in so fast you often don't have a chance to swing your shotgun to shoot them before they've got your arm or your neck. Nice to have a big blade that can kill a 40lbs dog in one stab.

Do you really suggest this as an anti-natural predator defense? Or, are you saying it's a last ditch budget defense?

A blade is a great weapon. Most knives will do the job. A specialized fighting knife (stabber knife) is far better suited. IMO.

Here's why.

Leverage. With a 9 inch blade, you have a 100-200 lb (puma/cougar) force that commands the first 1/3 of the object that you hold 1/3 of. The "saw" on the back of that knife will ensure that your wrist and forearm fight the body of 100 lbs of wild animal.

If you are forced to carry a knife specifically purposed for defense; they make those.

Look for a Fairbain -sykes type knife if that is the knife's purpose. A fighting knife is far smaller than a handgun, and WITH TRAINING, is quite lethal against most anything.

ETA- Hog knives of the American SE are designed to kill a violent animal. Here's one.
http://216.38.63.83/images/products/22358.jpg

You are correct that the handle has to be impossible to let go of and provide a super strong grip and retention. It's part of that 1/3rd crap I was talking about.

A killing knife, as you alluded to, is a viable consideration for wild animal defense if you are not allowed to have guns. It's cheaper than moving to another state.

Rick
08-14-2013, 08:52 AM
I've said before that my brain works differently than most but I'm thinking if I have 1/3 of the blade in a large animal that is now really, really, really ticked off, up close and personal, like my face in its mouth and its claws wrapped all the way around me. That is not the time to yell KINGS! It might even been less painful to turn the knife on myself and save the animal some work.

Winter
08-14-2013, 11:13 AM
People routinely dispatch wild boar with knives Rick. To each their own I reckon.

Oddmott
08-14-2013, 11:15 AM
Winter, i don't disagree with anything you said really. Except that the sawback of that blade doesn't stick at all... i've pulled it out of pork and venison carcasses with no issue, and without any adrenaline pumping.

For sure, a specialized blade will always perform better in a specific task. But i don't think most of us are looking to go out on a hike or photography excursion carrying 30lbs of pocket knife, filleting knife, skinning knife, gutting knife, utility knife, survival knife, wilderness defense knife and a wood splitting/foliage chopping knife; just to ensure we always have the perfect blade for any situation.

So yeah, the bushmaster is just a good budget "do-all".

hunter63
08-14-2013, 11:19 AM
Hahaha, Our bigfoot attack was a humpback whale that got too shallow during low tide. Indescribable noises, best I could compare it too is 100 guys sprinting in gravel for 2-10 seconds at a time. It shook the earth a little.

Now THAT had to be wild.....how big of a knife does one need to dispatch a hump back whale.....Of course they can't run very fast.....Great addition to the mountain lions, and bears.....LOL

Oddmott
08-14-2013, 11:25 AM
I've said before that my brain works differently than most but I'm thinking if I have 1/3 of the blade in a large animal that is now really, really, really ticked off, up close and personal, like my face in its mouth and its claws wrapped all the way around me. That is not the time to yell KINGS! It might even been less painful to turn the knife on myself and save the animal some work.

You wiggle 6"-8" of sharp steel around inside a critters guts in 2 or three places and see how fast the fight goes out of them.

When i was a journalism student, one of my court assignments exposed me to a video of an inmate knifing another, much larger inmate in a scuffle. The knife was made out of a plastic margarine container cut up, layered and melt-hardened. The "blade" was only 4.5" long, but the stabber just plunged it in and wiggled it around 3 different times and the bigger 280lbs-ish guy just kinda slumped and fell, in less than a minute.

I'd say that's pretty comparable to a cougar or timberwolf, etc. Maybe not a 600lbs bear... but thankfully where I frequent only "dump bears" get that large and they - so far - haven't been hungry/angry enough to bother anyone.

Cast-Iron
08-14-2013, 11:26 AM
People routinely dispatch wild boar with knives Rick. To each their own I reckon.

True, but I was under the impression they did so with the assistance of canines to pin the animal. I've killed several feral pigs and all of them with a firearm. If you've never witnessed the power of a wild boar crashing through the brush, they're not to be taken lightly. They are incredibly fast and potentially very dangerous beasts.

Rick
08-14-2013, 12:20 PM
All of that may be true but I'm still having trouble with the "my face in its mouth and its claws wrapped all the way around me" part. I'm sure he's not standing still while I jiggle that knife around. Of course if he's busy chewing my face off and ripping me to shreds he'll hold still long enough for me to jiggle it.


People routinely dispatch wild boar with knives Rick. To each their own I reckon.

Perhaps but they are better men than me, Gunga Din.

hunter63
08-14-2013, 12:29 PM
Line from the Jeremiah Johnson, (book) when Grizz runs a bear in to the cabin.....Jeremiah stuck the grizz with his knife, and climbed a tree....
Grizz....."Right smart leaving that knife in'em, helps to bleed him out......"
JJ......."Tewrn't time to pull it out...."

Oddmott
08-14-2013, 01:27 PM
Can't see me ever affording to adventure travel anywhere I'd have to worry about Grizzly or Polar bears... but if i do, maybe i'll swap out the knife for a cyanide capsule.

hunter63
08-14-2013, 01:29 PM
....always follow the advice of a old hunter I once knew........."Always save 3 shells....2 for the bears, and one for yourself"

Seniorman
08-14-2013, 01:33 PM
ODDMOTT -" ... You wiggle 6"-8" of sharp steel around inside a critters guts in 2 or three places and see how fast the fight goes out of them. ..."

That reminds me of an article I read years ago about knife fightng in a knife magazine. It was a quote taken from an old interview many years ago with a man who had been involved in such "activities.". The man was asked what happened in a knife fight and how he survived as long as he did?

The man answered, "Well, when they got to walkin' on their guts, the fight was over."

That man was Rezin Bowie, designer of the Bowie knife and brother of Jim Bowie.

Seems to me that would be the case even today, man or beast. :laugh:

S.M.

Wildthang
08-14-2013, 01:47 PM
Now THAT had to be wild.....how big of a knife does one need to dispatch a hump back whale.....Of course they can't run very fast.....Great addition to the mountain lions, and bears.....LOL

Man where is Blade when we really need him. I bet he could spin some yarn on this one:smartass:

RandyRhoads
08-14-2013, 03:36 PM
Some guy on the hiking trail Facebook page posted this in response to my question on bringing a gun on the hike.

Fredric L. Rice If someone is such a pants-****ting coward they think they need a gun "to protect themselves" in the outdoors, they should stay the **** at home, they have no business being out in the woods. Right wing NRA ****bags already infest the cities below, the ****ing insane violent assholes can bloody well stay the **** out of the woods among normal, sane, peaceful people.

Along with countless others and antigun BS. Should have realized backpackers are mostly stinky hippy *****es.

RandyRhoads
08-14-2013, 04:04 PM
God I hope I don't run into these idiots on the trail. The more I experience hippys the more I hate them. They are the least open minded people, and seem to all be extremely rude.

Sorry Mr. rich parents college kids, you're the man, way cool, my bad. I worship you. You hiked a trail with $2,000.00 worth of gear and solar charges for your iPads. My heros.

Wildthang
08-14-2013, 05:25 PM
Some guy on the hiking trail Facebook page posted this in response to my question on bringing a gun on the hike.

Fredric L. Rice If someone is such a pants-****ting coward they think they need a gun "to protect themselves" in the outdoors, they should stay the **** at home, they have no business being out in the woods. Right wing NRA ****bags already infest the cities below, the ****ing insane violent assholes can bloody well stay the **** out of the woods among normal, sane, peaceful people.

Along with countless others and antigun BS. Should have realized backpackers are mostly stinky hippy *****es.

I hope a huge mountain lion pounces on him and chews off his family jewels:angry:

hunter63
08-14-2013, 06:10 PM
Some guy on the hiking trail Facebook page posted this in response to my question on bringing a gun on the hike.

Fredric L. Rice If someone is such a pants-****ting coward they think they need a gun "to protect themselves" in the outdoors, they should stay the **** at home, they have no business being out in the woods. Right wing NRA ****bags already infest the cities below, the ****ing insane violent assholes can bloody well stay the **** out of the woods among normal, sane, peaceful people.

Along with countless others and antigun BS. Should have realized backpackers are mostly stinky hippy *****es.

Don't fret....his mommy won't let him have one anyway.......

RandyRhoads
08-14-2013, 06:11 PM
I hope a huge mountain lion pounces on him and chews off his family jewels:angry:

Man, the insanity. It was ALMOST unanimous. "Why in the world would you need a GUN? Are you serious? What a psycho. What kind of person would even think of a GUN on this hike. People like you ruin this and are the reason people get hurt. You'd probably end up shooting yourself or mistaking one of us for a bear."

2 or 3 stepped in and replied in my favor as how left the backpacking community is and "good luck" with them.

I even posted another thing about being able to fish and catch something and someone said "Yeah but you can't shoot them".

Seriously let it go hippys.....

Another suggested I get banned. SERIOUSLY? I got called a pants ****ting coward that is a psycho gun toting killer by mass amounts of people and I called someone Jane Fonda and said unbunch your ultralight panties. Clearly I was out of line.

RandyRhoads
08-14-2013, 06:13 PM
Don't fret....his mommy won't let him have one anyway.......

No what seriously shocked me about that guy is he looks to be a 50-60 year old forestry or CalFire guy.

Seniorman
08-15-2013, 01:56 PM
You will never be able to reason with those pampered, smug, holier-then-thou left wing bliss ninnies. You're wasting your time trying.

Just do what you want on the trail, so long as it is legal, and let those naive little children-in-mind congratulate themselves on how morally and intellectually superior they are over the worker peasant riff raff who should be barred from the hiking trails.

Have fun on your trip.

S.M.

Rick
08-15-2013, 02:28 PM
It never ceases to amaze me how many worker peasant riff raff there are out there. They are everywhere! How is a pampered, smug, holier-than-thou bliss ninnie like me supposed to put up with all of them?! You don't need that gun on the trail by the way.

welderguy
08-15-2013, 02:40 PM
It never ceases to amaze me how many worker peasant riff raff there are out there. They are everywhere! How is a pampered, smug, holier-than-thou bliss ninnie like me supposed to put up with all of them?! You don't need that gun on the trail by the way.
What ya need is a picture of rick in his hong, That is guaranteed to incapacitate anything usually with laughter or uncontrollable vomiting, either way it affords you a get away.

Wildthang
08-15-2013, 03:33 PM
You will never be able to reason with those pampered, smug, holier-then-thou left wing bliss ninnies. You're wasting your time trying.

Just do what you want on the trail, so long as it is legal, and let those naive little children-in-mind congratulate themselves on how morally and intellectually superior they are over the worker peasant riff raff who should be barred from the hiking trails.

Have fun on your trip.

S.M.

Yeah those are the kind of people that would run and hide when the SHTF and wouldn't bother to stop and help you if you were hanging upside down from a railroad bridge with your foot stuck between the ties.
Those are the kind that would perish as soon as times got bad because they are too cowardly to fight for what they beleive in. Their idea of fighting is flaming people on the internet:angry:

finallyME
08-15-2013, 04:06 PM
What, did you post on White Blaze or something? And you thought we flame newbies here.

hunter63
08-15-2013, 04:14 PM
Sowaht do all those hippies carry for the "Best Hippie knife"?

BENESSE
08-15-2013, 04:28 PM
What ya need is a picture of rick in his hong, That is guaranteed to incapacitate anything usually with laughter or uncontrollable vomiting, either way it affords you a get away.

Once they go blind, you won't have anything to worry about. It doesn't work on mountain lions, though.

aflineman
08-15-2013, 04:53 PM
One thing I like about my Kbar is it is easy to attach to the ridgeline of my hammock. I normally do not hike without a firearm (much of my hiking is during hunting season or scouting though). If I had to just have my Kbar, I would not feel defenseless. I don't really like not having ranged weapons though.

finallyME
08-15-2013, 05:00 PM
Sowaht do all those hippies carry for the "Best Hippie knife"?


Depends on the Hippie. There are many who think anything larger than this......
http://www.rocketsupply.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Razor-Blade-150x150.jpg is too much.
But those are the fanatics.
Many like the moras. In fact Ray Jardine even has a mora kit he sells that you can make your own handle and sheath and everything.
SAK's are popular as well. Different mentality.
Just like in any other endevour, you get people who think "If you aren't doing it the way I do it, you are wrong".

I don't carry a gun in the woods. Of course, this mostly because I don't have a gun to carry. I have a rifle, and a shotgun, and a 22lr. But so far, food for my family, and all the other expenses kids bring has prevented me from a handgun. If anyone wants to donate me a handgun........ The only time I thought I needed one, was when I heard a fox scream in the middle of the night, and I didn't know what it was, and didn't have my dog or bear spray with me.

RandyRhoads
08-15-2013, 05:40 PM
It never ceases to amaze me how many worker peasant riff raff there are out there. They are everywhere! How is a pampered, smug, holier-than-thou bliss ninnie like me supposed to put up with all of them?! You don't need that gun on the trail by the way.

I didn't get the humor in this? OR maybe I did and it just wasn't funny?? Maybe i'm just slow....

What, did you post on White Blaze or something? And you thought we flame newbies here.

JMT Facebook page.

Rick
08-15-2013, 05:45 PM
Probably slow. But I'm just guessing there.

RandyRhoads
08-15-2013, 05:53 PM
Probably slow. But I'm just guessing there.

Break it down for me brainiac. :fisticuffs:

Rick
08-15-2013, 05:56 PM
I...R...O...N...Y... - The expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.

RandyRhoads
08-15-2013, 05:58 PM
Oh, then yeah it just wasn't funny. :no:

Rick
08-15-2013, 06:04 PM
Sadly, some folks are born without a funny bone. It's an unfortunate abnormality. The term humor derives from the humoural medicine of the ancient Greeks, which taught that the balance of fluids in the human body, known as humours control human health and emotion. Please be extremely cautious. With your lack of humours you might find yourself on a forum when you get beat up by hippies. Hey, it happens.

hunter63
08-15-2013, 06:13 PM
I guess the hippies are a different breed these days.......used to be those Yankee long haired hippie freaks, partaking in forage and high sprits, flowers in their hair, free love and a not a care in the world attitude, Man.....'Couse that was a while back.....Man

Wish I remembered more of it, they tell me it was fun....Far out, Man......Peace, bro......

Rick
08-15-2013, 06:15 PM
Free love.....still thinkin' of Ruth aren't you?

hunter63
08-15-2013, 06:17 PM
Far out....Maaaaan.....

RandyRhoads
08-15-2013, 07:02 PM
Sadly, some folks are born without a funny bone. It's an unfortunate abnormality. The term humor derives from the humoural medicine of the ancient Greeks, which taught that the balance of fluids in the human body, known as humours control human health and emotion. Please be extremely cautious. With your lack of humours you might find yourself on a forum when you get beat up by hippies. Hey, it happens.

Show me one hippy that could take me, I challenge you....

Rick
08-15-2013, 07:19 PM
Um, okay. That one over there.

http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=6285124 (http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=6285124)

I'd think any hippie chic.


You set yourself up for that.

BENESSE
08-15-2013, 07:21 PM
Oh, then yeah it just wasn't funny. :no:

EDIT: AHHHHHHhhhh. You burned my ears. PG-13 ya know. - Rick

RandyRhoads
08-15-2013, 07:22 PM
Ok, I might let one beat me after a week alone :D

Rick
08-15-2013, 07:24 PM
If I had a nickel for every time I've been locked...never mind.

RandyRhoads
08-15-2013, 07:28 PM
EDIT: AHHHHHHhhhh. You burned my ears. PG-13 ya know. - Rick

Now who doesn't have the humorous. Hahaha....

Rick
08-15-2013, 07:32 PM
Um......my humors were assaulted, set upon by Joe Pisces notorious dialogue. I envisioned wide eyed little children blinking mindlessly into their monitors as befuzzled parents attempted to bring them back from the brink. Religious folks fainting and the internet, in general, melting.

BENESSE
08-15-2013, 07:55 PM
I envisioned wide eyed little children blinking mindlessly into their monitors as befuzzled parents attempted to bring them back from the brink. Religious folks fainting and the internet, in general, melting.

It's the curse of the hong.

roar-k
08-15-2013, 08:38 PM
God I hope I don't run into these idiots on the trail. The more I experience hippys the more I hate them. They are the least open minded people, and seem to all be extremely rude.

Sorry Mr. rich parents college kids, you're the man, way cool, my bad. I worship you. You hiked a trail with $2,000.00 worth of gear and solar charges for your iPads. My heros.

They are all over the trail and you will meet them more than not. My policy is to not tell them my standing on topics and to just smile and nod at what they say.

But I know what you are saying.

BENESSE
08-15-2013, 10:29 PM
Great advice, r-k. In fact, I'd go as far as pretending I was deaf/mute. Amazing the kind of things you'd be privy to.
(Just make sure you've got a pen and paper handy.)

thefemalesurvivalist
08-15-2013, 10:38 PM
Man, the insanity. It was ALMOST unanimous. "Why in the world would you need a GUN? Are you serious? What a psycho. What kind of person would even think of a GUN on this hike. People like you ruin this and are the reason people get hurt. You'd probably end up shooting yourself or mistaking one of us for a bear."

2 or 3 stepped in and replied in my favor as how left the backpacking community is and "good luck" with them.

I even posted another thing about being able to fish and catch something and someone said "Yeah but you can't shoot them".

Seriously let it go hippys.....

Another suggested I get banned. SERIOUSLY? I got called a pants ****ting coward that is a psycho gun toting killer by mass amounts of people and I called someone Jane Fonda and said unbunch your ultralight panties. Clearly I was out of line.

Holy Cow, Randy, what Forum did you INvade??

RandyRhoads
08-16-2013, 11:10 AM
Just the JMT Facebook page...

Rick
08-16-2013, 12:03 PM
It's the curse of the hong.

Yeah, there's that too I guess.

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03-24-2026, 01:47 PM
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06-03-2026, 09:18 PM
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