Need survival scenario ideas.

[RandyRhoads]

I'm planning on going on another 10 miles kayak trip like I did last year. This year i'd like to do it again but incorporate a scenario or at least a few more skills into it.

Last year I brought about a gallon of water, a knife, a bic lighter, a sleeping bag, a single shot .22 with only a couple shots, and my survival fishing kit (a small thing of line and some small hooks) I left in the afternoon. I went about half way and posted up at the most secluded beach I could find. I set up my bag, gathered firewood, then went out and the field and was extremely lucky to jump a rabbit right off the bat and hit it first shot. Used the guts and set up a stake out fishing line, cooked it over a fire on a makeshift tripod. Went to bed woke up and finished the other half of the paddle. I ended up really short on water and &*($d up when I made it to the destination.

Any ideas what I could do this year to spice it up? Less gear? A scenario? A new unknown destination? (A new destination could get me lost out in the marsh, and turn into a real scenario...)

[BENESSE]

Whatever you do, make sure breaking a leg isn't part of it. Now that would be a major challenge.

What about building a shelter and staying out longer? Starting a fire with a bow drill? Pretty much going "primitive" all the way. Take some supplies with you, but don't use them unless really desperate.

[RandyRhoads]

Why do you bring up breaking a leg, did you do that or something?

That is a good idea about staying longer, there wasn't really a need for shelter for just overnight. It's the middle of summer, over 100 degrees in the day and plenty of natural shelter to block sun. I didn't go really hardcore last time. The bic was the last resort to my ferro rod, which I sadly couldn't even get to work. Don't ask how, used it countless times but after an hour I switched to the lighter.

I can try adn maybe swing three days instead of two, but that's hard because of prior obligations and duties...

I really like SERE type stuff. Some sort of scenario like that would be awesome, but it's kind of hard if no ones after you haha....

[BornthatWay]

Well pray for no injuries but try the trip with maybe a pretend broken arm or badly sprained ankle. You could start the injury once you arrive at you destination and see how it would be to survive like that. I do not think it would be easy but definitely give you a taste of how hard it is to do so many camping things with an injury. I think an injury to your dominate arm would be a real challenge. Take a sling along and put it on as soon as you get to your destination and see how long you can stand it before you decide you need to be cured.

[RandyRhoads]

Thinking about it I guess the main thing I need is to make it longer. It's really just practicing skills away from home the way I did it. Even for two days I could literally sit under a tree and "survive" without eating drinking hunting and such...

[BornthatWay]

Well just because you have the injury does not mean you have to sit and do nothing. Make the scenario that you have to have fire due to the cold and food because it has been several days since you have had any food.

[ClayPick]

Fixing a hole punched in a kayak is never a good one.

[MamaBear]

You could practice a scenario where your gear washes down the river. See what you're able to do with just what you're able to find in nature without having to rely on any gear.

[senna]

what's hard about a paddle? For an emergency, you just lash a few short sticks at a 90 degree angle to, and at one end of your longer, "handle". If you want real security-effectiveness, just notch both the handle and the crosspcs. The whole thing takes less than 1/2 hour, with a good multi tool. gotta use your head, not do things the way they are "normally" done, if those things use up too much time and too many calories.

[welderguy]

what's hard about a paddle? For an emergency, you just lash a few short sticks at a 90 degree angle to, and at one end of your longer, "handle". If you want real security-effectiveness, just notch both the handle and the crosspcs. The whole thing takes less than 1/2 hour, with a good multi tool. gotta use your head, not do things the way they are "normally" done, if those things use up too much time and too many calories.

Im gonna say the wood is! did I win !

[hunter63]

You found out that water is hard to get along with out....how about ways to filter and purify the river water?....natural container,...friction fire?.
The arm is a sling is a good idea, or even a crutch for walking around....?

[Rick]

Dave - You goofball. You use soft woods. Man! Do I have to tell you everything?!

[welderguy]

Dave - You goofball. You use soft woods. Man! Do I have to tell you everything?!

:oops: Ill write that down so i dont forget.

[rebel]

I like the one good arm in a kayak idea.

[SARKY]

Even though I'm close to where you live, I'm not going to go all SERE on you. Just don't get paid enough to do that.

[RandyRhoads]

Even though I'm close to where you live, I'm not going to go all SERE on you. Just don't get paid enough to do that.

How much would it cost for you to hunt me....

Or just teach me....




So i've decided to go out tomorrow through Monday, with no food, a good amount of water, no rifle, but some snares instead. I will be battling some pretty strong winds so I don't think i'm going to do the one arm idea this trip, but I do like it.

Hunter- I REALLY would like to do the water filter idea, but I just don't think it's a good idea with the heavy metals and mercury in the delta. I am thinking of employing a solar still on the beach though.

[Rick]

Wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait. You want someone to hunt you, you won't have a weapon AND you'll pay 'em? Hell, I'm in.

[RandyRhoads]

Wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait. You want someone to hunt you, you won't have a weapon AND you'll pay 'em? Hell, I'm in.

I'm getting bored hunting myself. Hahahaha...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk17Nf4rclw

[Rick]

Dang. What the heck. I'm still in. How much to I get if I just wing you?

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