View Full Version : Knife attacks - Why no call to ban?
Old Professor
05-01-2013, 06:07 PM
Has any one else noticed the recent mass stabbings? Why has the liberal media not been calling for a ban on knives like they want to ban guns? Shouldn't people be banned from purchasing long bladed or multiple knives? After all they are easier to conceal than a gun! And just as deadly!
Shhhhh! (Don't give those progressives any more ides!) :gagged:
Winter
05-01-2013, 06:39 PM
Shhhhh! (Don't give those progressives any more ides!) :gagged:
This thread must be destroyed.
Seniorman
05-01-2013, 07:02 PM
"Knife attacks - Why no call to ban?"
Simple enough. At the moment, the agenda, the goal of the Left is to ban and confiscate the guns of the unwashed worker peasants. As soon as they accomplish their goal, they'll go after the knives.
S.M.
GreatUsername
05-01-2013, 07:25 PM
Has any one else noticed the recent mass stabbings? Why has the liberal media not been calling for a ban on knives like they want to ban guns? Shouldn't people be banned from purchasing long bladed or multiple knives? After all they are easier to conceal than a gun! And just as deadly!
Two things: the stabbings are less deadly on the whole than shootings. It's a fact of stabbings, they really don't kill as quickly or in the same volume that a firearm does. A knife is inherently not capable of the same kind of mass-killing a firearm is. This of course doesn't justify firearm restrictions, but it does explain why there is less fervor towards banning knives
secondly: People are in fact banned from possession of many kinds of knives, depending on state. In WA for example, switchblades, "flick knives", balisongs/butterfly knives, gravity knives, and protectile knives are all illegal to buy sell or carry outside your residence. Fixed blades are only allowed if openly displayed, and only in sporting (camping/hunting) applications, and all folding knives must be 4 inches or less in length (3.5 inches or less in Seattle)
So, there are restrictions everywhere, just less national push at the moment.
cowgirlup
05-04-2013, 07:49 AM
Has any one else noticed the recent mass stabbings? Why has the liberal media not been calling for a ban on knives like they want to ban guns? Shouldn't people be banned from purchasing long bladed or multiple knives? After all they are easier to conceal than a gun! And just as deadly!
They have to ban guns first, then they move on to knives, then it will be baseball bats and eventually rocks.
UK docs want to ban pointy kitchen knives...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm
hunter63
05-04-2013, 10:36 AM
Then it will be 300hp trucks and SUV's.....You don't need all the size and HP, makes it hard on the little crap boxes, that get punted like a football.....and bad for the planet.......
Ban craft fairs as well, lot of junk gets passed along and breaks up happy homes.
2dumb2kwit
05-04-2013, 11:16 AM
Two things: the stabbings are less deadly on the whole than shootings. It's a fact of stabbings, they really don't kill as quickly or in the same volume that a firearm does. A knife is inherently not capable of the same kind of mass-killing a firearm is. This of course doesn't justify firearm restrictions, but it does explain why there is less fervor towards banning knives
secondly: People are in fact banned from possession of many kinds of knives, depending on state. In WA for example, switchblades, "flick knives", balisongs/butterfly knives, gravity knives, and protectile knives are all illegal to buy sell or carry outside your residence. Fixed blades are only allowed if openly displayed, and only in sporting (camping/hunting) applications, and all folding knives must be 4 inches or less in length (3.5 inches or less in Seattle)
So, there are restrictions everywhere, just less national push at the moment.
You do know that knives kill several times more people each year than rifles, don't you?
(And that includes all rifles. Not just what they call "assault rifles".)
2dumb2kwit
05-04-2013, 11:19 AM
Two things: the stabbings are less deadly on the whole than shootings. It's a fact of stabbings, they really don't kill as quickly or in the same volume that a firearm does. A knife is inherently not capable of the same kind of mass-killing a firearm is. This of course doesn't justify firearm restrictions, but it does explain why there is less fervor towards banning knives
secondly: People are in fact banned from possession of many kinds of knives, depending on state. In WA for example, switchblades, "flick knives", balisongs/butterfly knives, gravity knives, and protectile knives are all illegal to buy sell or carry outside your residence. Fixed blades are only allowed if openly displayed, and only in sporting (camping/hunting) applications, and all folding knives must be 4 inches or less in length (3.5 inches or less in Seattle)
So, there are restrictions everywhere, just less national push at the moment.
Guns are restricted more than that, yet they still want to ban them.
2dumb2kwit
05-04-2013, 11:23 AM
Then it will be 300hp trucks and SUV's.....You don't need all the size and HP, makes it hard on the little crap boxes, that get punted like a football.....and bad for the planet.......
Ban craft fairs as well, lot of junk gets passed along and breaks up happy homes.
First, we need to limit their gas tank capacity. No on need all that gas with them. They can stop and get more gas as needed. With small gas tanks, if somebody starts killing people with their SUV, they can only kill so many before they need more gas, and they can be stopped more easily when they have to stop for gas.
We will also need to limit the size of gas cans. We don't want people to be able to refuel much, without having to stop at a fueling station. (Where their background can be checked, to see if they are worthy of more fuel.)
Eastree
05-04-2013, 01:42 PM
First, we need to limit their gas tank capacity. No on need all that gas with them. They can stop and get more gas as needed. With small gas tanks, if somebody starts killing people with their SUV, they can only kill so many before they need more gas, and they can be stopped more easily when they have to stop for gas.
We will also need to limit the size of gas cans. We don't want people to be able to refuel much, without having to stop at a fueling station. (Where their background can be checked, to see if they are worthy of more fuel.)
Who needs more than ten gallons, any way? I mean, are they planning to immolate small children?! Just buy a couple gallons as you need them! And of course we need background checks. If someone used gasoline to start a fire, we need to know whenever they pump gas! If you haven't, then you have nothing to hide. So just ... buh ... Just stop trying to act like ... bah ... like this is a bad thing .. bahh. You just need to do what the governBAHHhh is telling you! BAHH They don't mean you any harm. BAHHhhh ... Oh, there's the herd.
ElevenBravo
05-05-2013, 09:20 AM
Id like to go ahead and suggest microchipping gasoline, so when it is used as an 3xpl0$iv3 it could be tracked back to the original purchaser.
Until then, Im going to bury my slingshot in the event it winds up on the ban list too!!
EB
Cast-Iron
05-05-2013, 09:43 AM
After they've achieved the confiscation of your guns and knives, I suspect they'll come after your pressure cookers too.
Mike D'Antonio
05-05-2013, 10:58 AM
Apparently the "Right Reverend Al Sharpton" has already started this BS. I say when they show me how to cut my steak with a teaspoon then we'll talk about it! They can take any knife away they would like...junkyards are full of leaf springs! Mike
2dumb2kwit
05-05-2013, 11:09 AM
We kind of joke about it, but we all may want to ask Winnie how easily it can become a reality. She has to deal with this kind of crap already.
Eastree
05-05-2013, 02:29 PM
Indeed, 2dumb2kwit. There are places which are already restricting common tools to the point that people who use them at their jobs run the risk of being bereft of them via police confiscation, for just (as an example) having a screwdriver in a pocket, even if they are able to "justify the need" of it.So many places are already setting pattern and precedent for what we will be facing in coming years. And our populace is already being primed to fear anything and everything that's not on a non-existent approved items list. There are many things that, "you don't really need," on your person, so the push is, "why have them at all?"
323 people were killed with rifles in 2011. All rifles including those uber scary AR platforms.
356 by shotguns. All shotguns.
1694 were stabbed to death.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8
GreatUsername
05-06-2013, 04:49 AM
You do know that knives kill several times more people each year than rifles, don't you?
(And that includes all rifles. Not just what they call "assault rifles".)
More than rifles yes. More than firearms in general? No.
GreatUsername
05-06-2013, 04:50 AM
323 people were killed with rifles in 2011. All rifles including those uber scary AR platforms.
356 by shotguns. All shotguns.
1694 were stabbed to death.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8
And what about handguns, eh? If we're going to have the truth on our side, we have to tell the WHOLE truth. The whole truth is, long guns don't in fact pose much of a threat comparatively, but handguns are in fact the favored murder weapon in this country. That doesn't mean we should ban them, but if we don't acknowledge that fact, it makes it look like we're hiding it on purpose.
GreatUsername
05-06-2013, 04:56 AM
Guns are restricted more than that, yet they still want to ban them.
I'd say that knife restrictions here are stricter than firearm restrictions, in that they cannot be carried concealed, even with a CWP, and that ones that are truly effective for self defense are 100% illegal, whereas the firearms that are effective for self defense are not illegal in most states (and not in mine), but are just restricted. It's a shame. Having greater freedom of knife carry would allow for some extra flexibility about one's EDC.
That is the whole truth. It's a comparison between long guns and knives. If you want to read something else into it then have at. You are welcome to look up all the stats that's why I posted the link. The fact is that knives are more dangerous than long guns yet that's what the anti-gun group wants to ban. They aren't harping about handguns.
2dumb2kwit
05-06-2013, 10:16 AM
I'd say that knife restrictions here are stricter than firearm restrictions, in that they cannot be carried concealed, even with a CWP, and that ones that are truly effective for self defense are 100% illegal, whereas the firearms that are effective for self defense are not illegal in most states (and not in mine), but are just restricted. It's a shame. Having greater freedom of knife carry would allow for some extra flexibility about one's EDC.
Really? Where you live, do you have to pass a background check to buy a knife?
They aren't harping about handguns.
........yet.
And watch out for those battery powered saws..........
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/donohue-subway-lunatic-stole-power-saws-facing-justice-article-1.1335963
kyratshooter
05-06-2013, 11:18 AM
I'd say that knife restrictions here are stricter than firearm restrictions, in that they cannot be carried concealed, even with a CWP, and that ones that are truly effective for self defense are 100% illegal, whereas the firearms that are effective for self defense are not illegal in most states (and not in mine), but are just restricted. It's a shame. Having greater freedom of knife carry would allow for some extra flexibility about one's EDC.
Sorry GUN but my CCW covers knives, switchblades, blackjacks, brass knuckles or any other deadly weapon. That is why KY issues a CCW and not a CFC permit.
It all depends on the state.
Separating knife carry laws from gun carry laws has always been a class warfare issue. Knives or knife length was the first thing most states attacked when weapons banning. It happened in KY back before 1800 as harassment of the backwoods settlers and the riverboat people.
Knife carrying and knife fighting has always been associated with the lowest classes of society. They fought with knives as their primary concealed weapon because they could not afford handguns. The upper classes could afford handguns and carried them as protection against the knife wielding lower classes.
Almost every state and local government in the nation has some form of hefty knife, blackjack and brass knuckle law on the books. Normally they are not enforced until the need arises as in a gang fight, raid on a biker bar or some other operation against what society views as the lower elements. I have actually seen cops tell other people to "put that knife away" when someone flashed or dropped an obviously illegal sized knife in a public place, rather than arrest them.
In the state where I grew up I made the step from self defense and utility knife carrying to firearm carrying at age 21, when I could legally buy my first handgun. Yes, carrying was illegal then and in that state, but so was attacking me in an unarmed condition when I carried the days receipts to the bank.
The local police actually told me to get a gun and carry it since they could not escort every business owner to the night deposit. They informed me that no business man in the city had ever been convicted of CCW and everyone they knew of carried a firearm. Followed by the admonition that the judge I would have to appear before carried a S&W snubnose under his judicial robes. In that state there were NO weapons carrying permits issued except to commissioned police officers.
Enforcement was very much a social class issue. Good folks with a need to carry were exempt from prosecution, lower classes with evil intent were jailed.
Don't blame me, I am just the messenger telling you how it was, and still is in most areas. I know several people that do not have a CCW because they can not afford one. The real trick I see is that before the CCW laws were relaxed CCW was viewed and a misdemeanor, just in case a "law abiding citizen" got caught up in a county where he was not known by the authorities. It required a fine and was erased from your record in a year. Now that almost anyone with a clear record can get a CCW it is bumped to a felony, with jail time and permanent sanctions in place. And still a harassment of the less wealthy.
2dumb2kwit
05-06-2013, 12:15 PM
Kyrat is absolutely correct. I live in N.C. In this state, we have to have a permit to purchase a handgun. If you have time, do a google search an see why that is. You may be surprised.
Seniorman
05-06-2013, 01:22 PM
As for the deadliness of knives as opposed to guns, several years ago when I lived in Los Angeles, I used to shoot competition IPSC with the old Southwest Pistol League. I became acquainted with a regular shooter who happened to be the chief surgeon of the weekend trauma team at a large hospital in Los Angeles. This hospital was in an area of L.A. where there was a great deal of violent crime, especially on the weekends.
He said his team called themselves the "Cut & Shoot Gang." I asked him once what percentage of people who came into the ER on his weekend shift, died of gunshot wounds and how many died of knife wounds? He said, "About fifty fifty. Fatalities depend on many variables."
Anecdotal? Perhaps, but that was his observation and he was in a position to know just how deadly knives and guns are in actual shootings and knife incidents.
S.M.
ElevenBravo
05-06-2013, 03:24 PM
I live in N.C. In this state, we have to have a permit to purchase a handgun.
Out of curiosity, I had to look it up:
Q: What is the deal with this Pistol Purchase Permit law? I moved from one NC county to another and found that the Sheriffs of each county have vastly different requirements for getting Permits. Isn't this covered by State law?
A: The Pistol Purchase Permit law was passed in 1919, and is a classic piece of Jim Crow-era legislation (Jim Crow History). The recognition of civil rights for blacks and other minorities meant that the Constitution applied to minorities. This meant that blacks and other minorities could exercise their natural right to self-defense, with the full support of the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution and Article I, Sec. 30 of the North Carolina Constitution. This did not sit well with the Ku Klux Klan (which for many years was headquartered in Raleigh, just down the street from the Legislature) and other racist groups and influential individuals. The racist members of the State Legislature knew they could not overtly prevent minorities from purchasing handguns for protection, so the seemingly innocent Pistol Purchase Permit law was passed. This law allowed local Sheriffs and government officials to discriminate with impunity at the local level.
Even today, the Pistol Purchase Permit law is implemented in an arbitrary and capricious fashion by 100 individual County Sheriffs. Some Sheriffs do little more than collect the fees and hand out permits to the law-abiding, because more than that is not necessary. Others implement ridiculous, intrusive requirements that either discriminate on a wholesale basis or are selectively applied so that discrimination can be more personalized.
With the advent of the National Instant Check System (NICS) there is no public safety reason why the Pistol Purchase Permit system needs to continue. The Jim Crow era is over, and the laws of that era need to be eliminated. Most people agree with that in principle, but for some reason when it comes to guns a significant number of people seem to think that discrimination and arbitrary requirements are a good thing. This is something NCRPA totally disagrees with.
We have been trying for 10 years to get the Pistol Purchase Permit system completely eliminated. Apparently when it comes to gun control a lot of people think Jim Crow is still a good idea.
from: http://www.ncrpa.org/ncgunfaq.htm
EB
2dumb2kwit
05-06-2013, 06:29 PM
Out of curiosity, I had to look it up:
from: http://www.ncrpa.org/ncgunfaq.htm
EB
I'm glad you did. Most people won't believe that a big portion of gun control laws are based on racism. I find it ironic, that a lot of the people who support these laws are the ones who call others racist.
(In fact, it's the same people who say that requiring a proper ID to vote is racist. Funny they don't call having to jump through a bunch of hoops to buy a gun racist.)
We are a CCW state as well. The only thing we aren't allowed to have are throwing stars and spring operated knives (switchblades, stilletos, etc). We can own a gravity knife but there are places it can not be carried. I think that covers it.
Sit down for this one....
.
Massachusetts General Law Chapter 269: Section 10. Carrying dangerous weapons...
(b) Whoever, except as provided by law, carries on his person,or carries on his person or under his control in a vehicle, any stiletto, dagger or a device or case which enables a knife with a locking blade to be drawn at a locked position, any ballistic knife, or any knife with a detachable blade capable of being propelled by any mechanism, dirk knife, any knife havinga double-edged blade, or a switch knife, or any knife having an automatic spring release device by which the blade is released from the handle, having a blade of over one and one-half inches, or a slung shot, blowgun, blackjack, metallic knuckles or knuckles of any substance which could be put to the same use with the same or similar effect as metallic knuckles, nunchaku, zoobow, also known as klackers or kung fu sticks, or any similar weapon consisting of two sticks of wood, plastic or metal connected at one end by a length of rope, chain, wire or leather, a shuriken or any similar pointed starlike object intended to injure a person when thrown, or any armband, made with leather which has metallic spikes, points or studs or any similar device made from any other substance or a cestus or similar material weighted with metal or other substance and worn on the hand, or a manrikigusari or similar length of chain having weighted ends; or whoever, when arrested upon a warrant for an alleged crime,or when arrested while committing a breach or disturbance of the public peace,is armed with or has on his person, or has on his person or under his controlin a vehicle, a billy or other dangerous weapon other than those herein mentioned and those mentioned in paragraph (a), shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than two and one-half years nor more than five years in the state prison,or for not less than six months nor more than two and one-half years in a jail or house of correction, except that, if the court finds that the defendant has not been previously convicted of a felony, he may be punished by a fine of not more than fifty dollars or by imprisonment for not more than two and one-half years in a jail or house of correction.
2dumb2kwit
05-06-2013, 07:28 PM
Yeah, but how many pages would it take to show us the gun laws? LOL
2dumb2kwit
05-06-2013, 09:53 PM
Pages or volumes?
What difference does it make, how loud you read them?:walkman:
But he....what he meant was......never mind.
cowgirlup
05-07-2013, 08:17 PM
Sit down for this one....
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Massachusetts General Law Chapter 269: Section 10. Carrying dangerous weapons...
(b) Whoever, except as provided by law, carries on his person,or carries on his person or under his control in a vehicle, any stiletto, dagger or a device or case which enables a knife with a locking blade to be drawn at a locked position, any ballistic knife, or any knife with a detachable blade capable of being propelled by any mechanism, dirk knife, any knife havinga double-edged blade, or a switch knife, or any knife having an automatic spring release device by which the blade is released from the handle, having a blade of over one and one-half inches, or a slung shot, blowgun, blackjack, metallic knuckles or knuckles of any substance which could be put to the same use with the same or similar effect as metallic knuckles, nunchaku, zoobow, also known as klackers or kung fu sticks, or any similar weapon consisting of two sticks of wood, plastic or metal connected at one end by a length of rope, chain, wire or leather, a shuriken or any similar pointed starlike object intended to injure a person when thrown, or any armband, made with leather which has metallic spikes, points or studs or any similar device made from any other substance or a cestus or similar material weighted with metal or other substance and worn on the hand, or a manrikigusari or similar length of chain having weighted ends; or whoever, when arrested upon a warrant for an alleged crime,or when arrested while committing a breach or disturbance of the public peace,is armed with or has on his person, or has on his person or under his controlin a vehicle, a billy or other dangerous weapon other than those herein mentioned and those mentioned in paragraph (a), shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than two and one-half years nor more than five years in the state prison,or for not less than six months nor more than two and one-half years in a jail or house of correction, except that, if the court finds that the defendant has not been previously convicted of a felony, he may be punished by a fine of not more than fifty dollars or by imprisonment for not more than two and one-half years in a jail or house of correction.
Darn. I break that law every saturday when I work just over the border in MA.
crashdive123
05-07-2013, 08:19 PM
Darn. I break that law every saturday when I work just over the border in MA.
Shhhhhhh. We'll keep that as our little secret.
Skittish Prepper
10-10-2013, 03:07 PM
kyratshooter you made an interesting point about classes of society and "the type of people" who can't afford a gun. i agree with you but only to a point; it was probably and still is probably true but everyone, and i do mean everyone i know packs at least one knife; our local police are required to have a one-handed folder while on duty and every kentucky state trooper i've talked to also carries a knife. i live in a small town in central kentucky (middle of nowhere) and the poor criminals are just as likely to have a gun as a wealthier ones.
this is a separate issue; but i've always wondered why there are more restrictions on switchblades, butterfly knives etc...is it because they're scary looking? ...in my humble opinion they are the very last blades that you'd want in a knife fight. my bf carries two serrated spyderco enduras everywhere he goes and i pack a serrated cold steel vaquero; much better choices than a switchblade or butterfly knife.
They are not illegal here. The only thing illegal here are Chinese Throwing Stars and any knife that propels a blade. You are limited to where you can carry them. You can not have them at a school or on a school bus otherwise you are legal. I happen to carry one. My CWC is my first choice over any knife but the snap of that blade will certainly gain attention.
Desert Rat!
10-10-2013, 09:28 PM
Just as long as there are no high capacity knife carriers, no one needs to be carrying 30 knives around at one time!:scared:
Batch
10-10-2013, 09:44 PM
Skittish,
Get him a waved Spyderco Endura. No switchblade on the planet will match the speed of that knife!
BENESSE
10-10-2013, 10:57 PM
You'll have to get a hold of me to stab me. You can shoot me dead from a good distance.
I can probably outrun a knife. Waaaaay, less so a bullet.
Why is that so hard to comprehend?!
I mean, let's not play dumb with each other here.
Winnie
10-11-2013, 04:32 AM
As 2Dumb states, I live with strange firearms and knife laws. Basically, the only knife that is not illegal to carry is a Swiss Army type with a blade under 3inches in length. HOWEVER, i still have to provide a valid reason to carry even that knife if I were stopped. Please note the final sentence of the rules(highlighted) all it takes is for some limp wristed leftie to be on the bench and I'm stuffed.
The Firearms laws and Knife laws are still ignored by the criminal and lunatic element of society, eloquently shown by the fact that our Police now wear stab vests. So all these laws have done is remove these items from law abiding citizens. I don't think it has made much difference to death and injury from criminal use.
From current rules.
https://www.gov.uk/find-out-if-i-can-buy-or-carry-a-knife
Knives that are illegal
There is a complete ban on the sale of some knives:
flick knives (also called switchblades or automatic knives) - where the blade is hidden inside the handle and shoots out when a button is pressed
butterfly knives - where the blade is hidden inside a handle that splits in two around it, like wings; the handles swing around the blade to open or close it
disguised knives eg where the blade is hidden inside a belt buckle or fake mobile phone
gravity knives
sword-sticks
samurai swords (with some exceptions, including antiques and swords made to traditional methods before 1954)
hand or foot-claws
push daggers
hollow kubotan (cylinder-shaped keychain) holding spikes
shuriken (also known as death stars or throwing stars)
kusari-gama (sickle attached to a rope, cord or wire)
kyoketsu-shoge (hook-knife attached to a rope, cord or wire)
kusari (weight attached to a rope, cord or wire)
This is not a complete list of banned knives. Contact your local police to check if a knife is illegal or not.
It is illegal to:sell a knife of any kind (including cutlery and kitchen knives) to anyone under 18
carry a knife in public without good reason - unless its a knife with a folding blade 3 inches long (7.62 cm) or less, eg a Swiss Army knife
carry, buy or sell any type of banned knife (the list of banned knives is below)
use any knife in a threatening way (even a legal knife, such as a Swiss Army knife)
Lock knives (knives with blades that can be locked when unfolded) are not folding knives, and are illegal to carry in public.
Good reasons for carrying a knife
Examples of good reasons to carry a knife in public can include:
taking knives you use at work to and from work
youre taking knives to a gallery or museum to be exhibited
the knife is going to be used for theatre, film, televison, historical reenactment or religious purposes (eg the kirpan some Sikhs carry)
A court will decide if youve got a good reason to carry a knife if youre charged with carrying it illegally.
And that my friends is why you don't want to get started banning anything.
2dumb2kwit
10-11-2013, 08:56 AM
And that my friends is why you don't want to get started banning anything.
So that's why I haven't been banned. :whistling:
We have GOT to rewrite some of the rules...Hey, Chris!!.......................................
tnrick55
10-11-2013, 11:06 AM
Don't get them started!
Batch
10-11-2013, 10:06 PM
You'll have to get a hold of me to stab me. You can shoot me dead from a good distance.
I can probably outrun a knife. Waaaaay, less so a bullet.
Why is that so hard to comprehend?!
I mean, let's not play dumb with each other here.
There is no need to get a hold of you to stab you. You can not out run a knifing.
I've posted on here before about bad asses dying on the blade.
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2003-12-15/news/0312140379_1_boat-ramp-airboats-alligator-alley
You can contact Doug and he'll tell you he regrets the knife. LOL
http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveInmates/detail.asp?Bookmark=1&From=list&SessionID=1035677317
He stabbed his roomate in the neck like 32 times and then turned hisself in. But, if you contact him he'll tell you that Batch is much more dangerous. LOL
My buddies buddy got to smart assing and he got knifed after winning the fight,
He dead!
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2003-12-15/news/0312140379_1_boat-ramp-airboats-alligator-alley
I could post and will if y'all need murder stories. I can post many stories because we grew up in that era!
I'm working on a switchblade katana. The way I figure it no one, not man nor beast, will be able to defeat me. It's working pretty good but the spring is really strong and every time I press the button it throws me on the ground. But I'm getting there.
BENESSE
10-12-2013, 12:03 AM
Somebody gets stabbed, it's usually up close and personal. Unless it's about knife throwing. Haven't read anything about a murderer going on a rampage and killing people by throwing knives. Not even in a circus.
Obviously, y'all are just funning, 'cause I know, you know better. :sneaky2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua_TZ84hmEA&list=PLH-3HvToLZbJYCXVBxDjzJE2YOo7MOIltiders of the
2dumb2kwit
10-12-2013, 08:29 AM
You'll have to get a hold of me to stab me. You can shoot me dead from a good distance.
I can probably outrun a knife. Waaaaay, less so a bullet.
Why is that so hard to comprehend?!
I mean, let's not play dumb with each other here.
Let's also not forget that knives are used to commit murder more than(over twice as many times) rifles and shotguns combined.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl08.xls
BENESSE
10-12-2013, 09:17 AM
Let's also not forget that knives are used to commit murder more than(over twice as many times) rifles and shotguns combined.
Really?
This is data of murder victims by weapon. (from the source you provided)
Total firearms: in 2010--8,775
Knives or cutting instruments: in 2010--1,939
crashdive123
10-12-2013, 11:50 AM
Note he said rifles and shotguns probably since the EBR's (evil black rifle) are often the target when a shooting happens. Heck - some of the early reporting about the Navy Yard shooter said he used an AR-15 - which of course was shown to be false.
BENESSE
10-12-2013, 01:17 PM
Note he said rifles and shotguns probably since the EBR's (evil black rifle) are often the target when a shooting happens. Heck - some of the early reporting about the Navy Yard shooter said he used an AR-15 - which of course was shown to be false.
Not a fair comparison, IMO, but I guess, anything goes to make a point. (both sides equally guilty of this)
It should be knives vs. firearms...not knives vs. only certain firearms.
2dumb2kwit
10-12-2013, 02:54 PM
Not a fair comparison, IMO, but I guess, anything goes to make a point. (both sides equally guilty of this)
It should be knives vs. firearms...not knives vs. only certain firearms.
Why is it not a fair comparison, when talking about bans, to compare the guns they tried to ban (plus additional guns) to knives. Isn't that what this thread is about?
BENESSE
10-12-2013, 03:43 PM
Why is it not a fair comparison, when talking about bans, to compare the guns they tried to ban (plus additional guns) to knives. Isn't that what this thread is about?
Not really.
Here's what it was about:
Knife attacks - Why no call to ban?
Has any one else noticed the recent mass stabbings? Why has the liberal media not been calling for a ban on knives like they want to ban guns? Shouldn't people be banned from purchasing long bladed or multiple knives? After all they are easier to conceal than a gun! And just as deadly!
Notice, he's not saying anything about guns they tried to ban. That's what I went by...including your statistics link.
Old Professor
10-12-2013, 05:57 PM
When I started this thread, I was thinking along the lines that knives are generally viewed as tools that every household has, often in abundance and used daily, hence attempts to ban them would likely meet universal resistance. Every state that I have lived in has had some restrictions on what kind of knife I could own and or carry. For example, the lovely Scottish Dirk that Scottishsmith made me is illegal for me to even own in Michigan, much less ever carry.
Arguments over which kill more people, firearms of knives misses the point. Both are capable of taking a persons life. My point was how/why the media focuses on one tool and not the other, and yes they will probably change that focus if they succeed in banning firearms.
why the media focuses on one tool and not the other
Because it doesn't sell ad copy.
crashdive123
10-13-2013, 12:46 PM
Well, if that don't just cut to the quick.
BENESSE
10-13-2013, 05:19 PM
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Because it doesn't sell ad copy.
It's much deeper than that.
Ad copy sells around issues that resonate with people...when you got a pulse on something before people can even verbalize it themselves, but they know it when they hear it A good adman is someone who is of the people and in the moment...or rather, 5 minutes before the moment. You can denigrate it all you want but it's a powerful tool in talented hands. That's why clients still pay small fortunes for a shot at having their message floated out there in the most compelling, money making/view changing, way.
You're right of course but if you don't sell ad copy you don't make money. And THAT'S why they broadcast, print, tweet, text and/or email. I was just cuttin' to the chase.
BENESSE
10-13-2013, 08:21 PM
You're right of course but if you don't sell ad copy you don't make money. And THAT'S why they broadcast, print, tweet, text and/or email. I was just cuttin' to the chase.
Well, it is a business, after all. (Even charities are in the business of making money. If they weren't, they wouldn't be able to do charitable things.) You do what you have to do, but ultimately, the market decides. And that's how it ought to be.
'Zactly. But you can't trust mainstream media you know. They are all about money. All of them. Even me. Yeah, guilty as sin.
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