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welderguy
04-05-2013, 06:07 PM
http://www.armytimes.com/article/20130330/NEWS/303300002

With respect for his Service to our country, I still have to say he is a douch, This is the crap that gives the rest of us a bad rep.

Ken
04-05-2013, 06:42 PM
Was it necessary? No.
Do his actions paint us in a questionable light? Yes.
Was he legally within his rights? Yes.
Did he need to prove his point that way? No.
Did the officer otherwise have legal standing to arrest him? No. (You cannot disturb an officer's peace.)
Absent other facts, was the arrest unlawful? Yes.
Are you breaking the law by resisting an unlawful arrest? No.
Would I likely get a "not guilty" on this one? I'd say there's a 90% chance of "Yes."

welderguy
04-05-2013, 06:50 PM
Was it necessary? No.
Do his actions paint us in a questionable light? Yes.
Was he legally within his rights? Yes.
Did he need to prove his point that way? No.
Did the officer otherwise have legal standing to arrest him? No. (You cannot disturb an officer's peace.) What about refusing to obey a lawful order?
Absent other facts, was the arrest unlawful? Yes.
Are you breaking the law by resisting an unlawful arrest? No.
Would I likely get a "not guilty" on this one? I'd say there's a 90% chance of "Yes."

Just curios?

Ken
04-05-2013, 07:00 PM
What about refusing to obey a lawful order? Just curios?

From the article: "Wilcox said walking on a road with a rifle is not against the law....."

How was the order lawful?

What if Grisham was holding a sandwich? Could the officer order him to put the sandwich on the ground?

What if the officer ordered him to step 10 feet to the left? What if there was a large pile of manure 10 feet to the left?

The order wasn't lawful. Period.

Ken
04-05-2013, 07:10 PM
People will argue that the order was lawful based on the officer's safety concerns. I don't buy that philosophy. Grisham was engaged in a lawful activity and was not a suspect in any crime. There was no legal justification whatsoever for the stop. Therefore, the officer had no more right to order Grisham to put his firearm down than any other citizen similarly concerned about personal safety would have. This isn't much different than the New York City Police "stop and frisk" policy that was recently held unconstitutional by a justice of the New York Supreme Court.

BTW - Unlike the federal government and every other state in the nation, the New York Supreme Court is NOT the highest court in the state. The New York Court of Appeals is. Just one more way New York is all screwed up.

Rick
04-05-2013, 07:12 PM
Great example for his teenage son too. What's the big deal with putting down your weapon to talk to the officer? It's a matter of respect on my part and safety on the officer's part.

welderguy
04-05-2013, 07:12 PM
Now, what if the Officer had told the man, Sir for both our safty please keep your hands in front of you untill I understand what is going on. and the man insted goes to set the rifle on the ground. and the officer shoots him what then.

Ken
04-05-2013, 07:16 PM
Great example for his teenage son too. What's the big deal with putting down your weapon to talk to the officer? It's a matter of respect on my part and safety on the officer's part.

Stupidity and disrespect alone does not constitute a crime.

welderguy
04-05-2013, 07:20 PM
Stupidity and disrespect alone does not constitute a crime.

I dont know I think stupid really should be a crime

Rick
04-05-2013, 07:22 PM
Lemme see. Put down the weapon, talk to the officer and be on my way. OR. Make a big stink, get arrested, post a bond and be on my way. Hmmmm.

Ken
04-05-2013, 07:26 PM
Great example for his teenage son too. What's the big deal with putting down your weapon to talk to the officer? It's a matter of respect on my part and safety on the officer's part.

For some reason, your post makes me think of Tasers. When Tasers were originally introduced as a supposedly "non-lethal" law enforcement weapon, they were touted as a non-lethal alternative when lethal force would otherwise be necessary. I saw the potential for abuse the very first time I read about Tasers.

Today, in almost every instance that we read about where Tasers have been used, there is no way that lethal force could have been justified. Tasers are rarely used in self-defense. Most often, Tasers are used to force COMPLIANCE, and in far too many of those instances, the compliance is to an unlawful order. Sadly, law enforcement officers are rarely subject to any sanctions or penalties for the misuse of these weapons.

welderguy
04-05-2013, 07:28 PM
For some reason, your post makes me think of Tasers. When Tasers were originally introduced as a supposedly "non-lethal" law enforcement weapon, they were touted as a non-lethal alternative when lethal force would otherwise be necessary. I saw the potential for abuse the very first time I read about Tasers.

Today, in almost every instance that we read about where Tasers have been used, there is no way that lethal force could have been justified. Tasers are rarely used in self-defense. Most often, Tasers are used to force COMPLIANCE, and in far too many of those instances, the compliance is to an unlawful order. Sadly, law enforcement officers are rarely subject to any sanctions or penalties for the misuse of these weapons.

MMMMM Tazers!!!!! the can of whoop a$$ with a battery!!!!!!

Ken
04-05-2013, 07:37 PM
Lemme see. Put down the weapon, talk to the officer and be on my way. OR. Make a big stink, get arrested, post a bond and be on my way. Hmmmm.

Hey, I agree with you that he was dumb and brought it on himself. Nonetheless, he was, IMHO, legally justified in his actions. Some guys, and I'm often one of them, will stand up and assert their rights regardless of the consequences.

Now think about this if you will: Open carry is lawful in many states. Should officers have the right to demand that anyone they see engaged in open carry place their handgun on the ground when stopped to be questioned without probable cause? If that became a common practice, and someone carrying was stopped and forced to go through such a routine by every officer they encountered, wouldn't that amount to harassment for simply exercising one's Second Amendment rights? And wouldn't that harassment become the preferred method of discouraging the public from excerising their Second Amendment rights? As I've said in earlier posts, I won't give the government an inch. Not a single inch.

welderguy
04-05-2013, 07:49 PM
Hey, I agree with you that he was dumb and brought it on himself. Nonetheless, he was, IMHO, legally justified in his actions. Some guys, and I'm often one of them, will stand up and assert their rights regardless of the consequences.

Now think about this if you will: Open carry is lawful in many states. Should officers have the right to demand that anyone they see engaged in open carry place their handgun on the ground when stopped to be questioned without probable cause? If that became a common practice, and someone carrying was stopped and forced to go through such a routine by every officer they encountered, wouldn't that amount to harassment for simply exercising one's Second Amendment rights? And wouldn't that harassment become the preferred method of discouraging the public from excerising their Second Amendment rights? As I've said in earlier posts, I won't give the government an inch. Not a single inch.

When i lived and worked In Arizona, I only asked twice for someone to remove there firearm and place it in the seat next to them and step out of the vehicle. Both times was when a warrant came back on the plate. And a tazer is a whole lot nicer than the ASP's and Side handle batons used to be!!

Ken
04-05-2013, 08:05 PM
And a tazer is a whole lot nicer than the ASP's and Side handle batons used to be!!

Ah, yes, the infamous Monadnock Prosecutor, courtesy of the good State of New Hampshire.


http://www.hpbmarketplace.com/The-Monadnock-PR-24-Prosecutor-a-training-manual-for-law-enforcement-officers-Richard-R-Starrett/book/4441097

welderguy
04-05-2013, 08:10 PM
Ah, yes, the infamous Monadnock Prosecutor, courtesy of the good State of New Hampshire.


http://www.hpbmarketplace.com/The-Monadnock-PR-24-Prosecutor-a-training-manual-for-law-enforcement-officers-Richard-R-Starrett/book/4441097
Oh Yeah thats the one!!

woodsman86
04-05-2013, 08:35 PM
Let us also remember we are reading this from a "news" story and were not a witness.

If an officer gave me an order, whether lawful or not, and I go berserk - who broke the law then? Take it one step further and say an officer gave me an order that is unlawful, so I kick his a$$-who broke the law? Point being, doesn't matter how the ball got rolling we don't know what resulted from the officer's request. According to the story, that is where the "crime" occurred. For all we know, there came a point in the conversation where the officer perceived a threat. Had it been me, I would have respectfully declined the order and went from there always ensuring I never broke the law.

Side note: I have never been asked to disarm. I also would not have complied without a reason. There is something to be said for exercising tact as well, no need to carry a loaded assault rifle down the road unless you are hunting and that would be illegal anyways.

Ken
04-05-2013, 08:41 PM
There is something to be said for exercising tact as well, no need to carry a loaded assault rifle down the road unless you are hunting and that would be illegal anyways.

An AR-15 NOT an assault rifle. We all need to be really, really careful to NOT adopt the anti-Second Amendment faction's misleading terminology.

welderguy
04-05-2013, 08:42 PM
An AR-15 NOT an assault rifle. We all need to be really, really careful to NOT adopt the anti-Second Amendment faction's misleading terminology.

It is a modern sporting rifle !!!!

woodsman86
04-05-2013, 09:17 PM
Sorry, let me correct that so we can get back to the topic...."...carry a loaded lightweight, 5.56 mm, magazine-fed, semi-automatic rifle, with a rotating-lock bolt down the road..."









Just poking fun...I understand the concern:gunsmilie:

Winter
04-05-2013, 09:20 PM
The guy isn't a douche at all. He stood up for the law when those in power were ignorant of it.

He has BALLS.

Winter
04-05-2013, 09:22 PM
Let us also remember we are reading this from a "news" story and were not a witness.

If an officer gave me an order, whether lawful or not, and I go berserk - who broke the law then? Take it one step further and say an officer gave me an order that is unlawful, so I kick his a$$-who broke the law? Point being, doesn't matter how the ball got rolling we don't know what resulted from the officer's request. According to the story, that is where the "crime" occurred. For all we know, there came a point in the conversation where the officer perceived a threat. Had it been me, I would have respectfully declined the order and went from there always ensuring I never broke the law.

Side note: I have never been asked to disarm. I also would not have complied without a reason. There is something to be said for exercising tact as well, no need to carry a loaded assault rifle down the road unless you are hunting and that would be illegal anyways.

He obviously didn't go berserk or the officer would not have survived.

Ken, people are brainwashed to use the jargon of the enemies of the second amendment. Good luck on that quest.

welderguy
04-05-2013, 09:29 PM
The guy isn't a douche at all. He stood up for the law when those in power were ignorant of it.

He has BALLS.

Being ignorant and looking for a reason to challenge authority isnt being a douch? I would have praised him had he complied and then went on his way carrying his rifle. So your saying everyone that gets arrested over a non compliance order involving a weapon is cool , and deserves a pat on the back. I could go on and on about his actions but, I wont. plain and simple he got arrested it made negative press for pro gunners and that dont help our case any!

woodsman86
04-05-2013, 09:30 PM
"Instead, Grisham became very irate and angry and yelled at the officer he was not going to take his gun, Wilcox said.

A scuffle ensued, with the officer eventually drawing his service pistol and pinning Grisham against the patrol car until backup units arrived. "



Sure sounds like he may have went a little berserk, just not postal. Again, we were not witness to this so it is all just speculation.

welderguy
04-05-2013, 09:37 PM
We can read what ever we want into the situation, And we don't know what was said or body language was used, to lead to the actions taken by either party, common sense says if your asked to do something by a cop its smart to do it because things will quickly go bad and usually not in your favor. From what I understood he was wearing it in front, not slung across his back. depending on what position the rifle was in it could have been taken as aggressive posturing , so asking someone you dont know, to lay down a weapon for the safty of everyone around isnt a bad thing.

Winter
04-05-2013, 09:57 PM
Being ignorant and looking for a reason to challenge authority isnt being a douch? I would have praised him had he complied and then went on his way carrying his rifle. So your saying everyone that gets arrested over a non compliance order involving a weapon is cool , and deserves a pat on the back. I could go on and on about his actions but, I wont. plain and simple he got arrested it made negative press for pro gunners and that dont help our case any!
I didn't say that, nor would I. I'm saying that this guy is aware of the gun grab attempts and was infuriated to find that his local law enforcement was ignorant.

How was he ignorant? Was he ignorant of the law? Was he ignorant of how habitual authority and the monopoly of force make a cop blind to your rights?

Personally, I admire the brave.

welderguy
04-05-2013, 10:03 PM
I didn't say that, nor would I. I'm saying that this guy is aware of the gun grab attempts and was infuriated to find that his local law enforcement was ignorant.

How was he ignorant? Was he ignorant of the law? Was he ignorant of how habitual authority and the monopoly of force make a cop blind to your rights?

Personally, I admire the brave.

SO your saying, that if you walked outside to see a man you do not know holding a rifle, you would not be concerned for your safety? or ask him to lower or put it down?

welderguy
04-05-2013, 10:06 PM
Let me ask everyone thats military this question, If an MP said drop your rifle , what would happen if you didnt!

crashdive123
04-05-2013, 10:07 PM
Here's something else to consider.........

Maybe - just maybe he was carrying to provoke the response that he did? Far fetched? Maybe.

There are a series of videos from a small group in Florida. In Florida there is no general provision for open carry. The circumstances that you can are limited. Two of those are - while hunting or fishing, or on the way to hunting and fishing. These guys - while well within the law are trying to push buttons and make a name for themselves. Again - they are legal, but they are arses and are doing nothing to help the cause.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBWghJrVeYA

JPGreco
04-05-2013, 10:15 PM
I thought of this immediately.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skpfzZ5vz14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skpfzZ5vz14

welderguy
04-05-2013, 10:23 PM
I thought of this immediately.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skpfzZ5vz14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skpfzZ5vz14

I think the stop was BS, I think he handled it in a professional manner, he didnt get loud or disrespectful. this guy stood up for his rights and did it in the right way.

welderguy
04-05-2013, 10:26 PM
Here's something else to consider.........

Maybe - just maybe he was carrying to provoke the response that he did? Far fetched? Maybe.

There are a series of videos from a small group in Florida. In Florida there is no general provision for open carry. The circumstances that you can are limited. Two of those are - while hunting or fishing, or on the way to hunting and fishing. These guys - while well within the law are trying to push buttons and make a name for themselves. Again - they are legal, but they are arses and are doing nothing to help the cause.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBWghJrVeYA

I saw this video before. I agree with your assessment of this one.

JPGreco
04-05-2013, 10:48 PM
I think the stop was BS, I think he handled it in a professional manner, he didnt get loud or disrespectful. this guy stood up for his rights and did it in the right way.

Of course the stop was BS. If you live in an open carry state, guess what, people open carry. OH MY GOD, what a concept!!!

woodsman86
04-05-2013, 10:49 PM
This is were I refer back to my earlier comment about tact. Don't go looking for trouble and it is not likely to find you. Parking in front of a police cruiser in an area that normally does not see people carry firearms, makes you a target. Though not illegal, why rock the boat over small things when there are much bigger problems.

Thanks for the vids, the law student cracked me up.

welderguy
04-05-2013, 11:00 PM
GC 411.207. AUTHORITY OF PEACE OFFICER TO DISARM.
(a) A peace officer who is acting in the lawful discharge of the officer's
official duties may disarm a license holder at any time the officer
reasonably believes it is necessary for the protection of the license holder,
officer, or another individual. The peace officer shall return the handgun to
the license holder before discharging the license holder from the scene if
the officer determines that the license holder is not a threat to the officer,
license holder, or another individual and if the license holder has not
violated any provision of this subchapter or committed any other violation
that results in the arrest of the license holder.

natertot
04-05-2013, 11:11 PM
GC 411.207. AUTHORITY OF PEACE OFFICER TO DISARM.
(a) A peace officer who is acting in the lawful discharge of the officer's
official duties may disarm a license holder at any time the officer
reasonably believes it is necessary for the protection of the license holder,
officer, or another individual. The peace officer shall return the handgun to
the license holder before discharging the license holder from the scene if
the officer determines that the license holder is not a threat to the officer,
license holder, or another individual and if the license holder has not
violated any provision of this subchapter or committed any other violation
that results in the arrest of the license holder.

Yep, most states have a law similar to this. When he told the guy to set it down, the officer wasn't even taking possession which he could have according to that law.

Young_prepper
04-05-2013, 11:13 PM
That video was awesome.

crashdive123
04-05-2013, 11:15 PM
who is acting in the lawful discharge of the officer's official duties Just guessing that Ken will say he was not acting in the lawful discharge of his duties without having probable cause to question the individual.

natertot
04-05-2013, 11:29 PM
Just guessing that Ken will say he was not acting in the lawful discharge of his duties without having probable cause to question the individual.

He was dispatched to the individual because of a complaint which does give the officer a reason to talk to the individual. Probable cause is needed for a traffic stop, articulable reasonable suspicion (being dispatched per a complaint) is all that is needed for a Terry Stop.

The article doesn't really explain how the officer approached the individual either. I know many that approach people too stern off the bat and people don't respond too well to that. Something tells me that is what triggered the individual "yelling" at the officer.

greatgoogamooga
04-06-2013, 08:14 AM
Of course, we are getting the story from the side of the cop. Let's hear the story from the point of view of master Sgt. Grisham:

"I was taking my gun to the local range to teach my son to shoot. I'ts only a short distance and it was a nice day so we walked. Plus, it's still late deer season and you never know when a good opportunity will present itself. I was on a dirt road, away from the main part of town, not the main paved streets and had my service weapon with the issued sling, with the safety on. About 10 minutes later, a police car pulled up and the officer drove up at high speed, jumped out of the car, and started yelling at me to "Freeze" and "Drop your gun." My hands were not on the rifle at the time. My son started to get scared and I told hm to settle down. The police officer must have thought I was talking to him, and continued yelling at me saying that _I_ was the one who needed to settle down and to stop arguing. I asked him what he was talking about and next thing I knew, he was reaching for his sidearm. I tried to explain that there was no reason for him to yell at me, but his emotions must have been running high and the situation kept escalating."


Did it happen like that? Probably not. But we are hearing the side of the story as told by the police officer. As much as my story sounds like the cop was a scared rookie, the cops story makes the Army NCO sound like a right-wing gun nutjob. the press would NEVER skew a story like that..would they?

perhaps the true story is somewhere in the middle.

Goog

welderguy
04-06-2013, 09:56 AM
The Dash cam in the patrol car will tell the truth of who was the dumb a$$ , would love to see that video.

welderguy
04-06-2013, 09:58 AM
Here is a question for our military folk. Is it ok to use your service rifle for personal use ? and also how would the MP's handle a situation like this?

woodsman86
04-06-2013, 10:28 AM
No he had a POW (privately owned weapon). You can't draw your weapon unless you are going to the range with your unit.

As for MPs, it is a mute point because you cannot open carry on base. Even if you get caught at the gate with an unregistered weapon, they just call your unit commander to come get you and the weapon-no fuss, no backup, and no media.

woodsman86
04-06-2013, 10:36 AM
Personally, after doing some more research and reading about this guy. He was looking for attention and therefore does not make this a random incident but rather a scam IMO. No reason to walk down the road with a loaded magazine in a rifle you are not intending to fire until he got to his final destination. He had a loaded conceal carry for protection, so the rifle was for sport. Illegal-NO, Bring senseless attention-YES I bet that dash cam will be what seals his fate in court.

welderguy
04-06-2013, 10:43 AM
Personally, after doing some more research and reading about this guy. He was looking for attention and therefore does not make this a random incident but rather a scam IMO. No reason to walk down the road with a loaded magazine in a rifle you are not intending to fire until he got to his final destination. He had a loaded conceal carry for protection, so the rifle was for sport. Illegal-NO, Bring senseless attention-YES I bet that dash cam will be what seals his fate in court.

Exactly, what I was thinking! he was looking for media attention and got it, too bad its all negative press!

hunter63
04-06-2013, 10:44 AM
There are people in the world, that seek confrontation?...attention?...15 min of fame?....cash for defense fund?
I suspect this is the case...

Winter
04-06-2013, 01:25 PM
SO your saying, that if you walked outside to see a man you do not know holding a rifle, you would not be concerned for your safety? or ask him to lower or put it down?

As long as he is not on my property, all I'll say is "Hello". If I was concerned for my safety, that would be my own problem.

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03-22-2026, 09:14 AM
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