View Full Version : Are you a "Survival Expert?"
Sarge47
02-19-2013, 01:08 PM
I was talking to somebody about surviving in the woods, and after I'd shared some info with them the person said something to me that took me aback: Wow, you're a survival expert!"
"No," I told them, "There's no such thing. I am a STUDENT of survival, as is everyone else. True, some have learned far more than others, but in the end, the only real "expert" is the master, and that is ma nature herself! She calls the shots! It's also true that if you learn all you can about both getting experienced in the outdoors, and how to "BE PREPARED," you will probably never find yourself in a true survival situation. Most often it's the ill-prepared and the inexperienced people that fail in a dangerous, unexpected situation while they're out and about! So if you to want to become true student of survival, then climb aboard." This is a great conversation starter!.....:sailor:
Wildthang
02-19-2013, 01:20 PM
Well I am not a survival expert, I just like to start camp fires and pee in the the woods:smartass:
GreatUsername
02-19-2013, 01:25 PM
Just so long as you don't drink it afterwards :w00t:
Seniorman
02-19-2013, 01:37 PM
I've been bustin' around out in the forests, swamps, mountains, and deserts for 60 years... and I'm still learning. I also managed to "survive" in the middle of Los Angeles, Calif., for 36 years, so learned a trick or two about "urban survival," too. :nod:
S.M.
finallyME
02-19-2013, 02:04 PM
I am a survival expert "in training". Just read under my name.
kyratshooter
02-19-2013, 02:25 PM
I do not own a video camera and do not have a u-tube channel, so that leaves me out.
Thjose are the two primary requirements, correct?
hunter63
02-19-2013, 03:33 PM
Yeah, well I just a guy that likes to spend time outside, take care of myself, and hopefully return in one piece.........and I don't have a blog, so I no expert.
Wildthang
02-19-2013, 03:46 PM
The only true survival expert we have had on here was Blade, heck he was boasting of challenging all of those guys on TV:scared:
finallyME
02-19-2013, 04:45 PM
Yeah, just look at why "they" called him blade. Obviously an expert. Well, maybe not, I don't think he had a youtube channel.
kyratshooter
02-19-2013, 04:54 PM
Yeah, well I just a guy that likes to spend time outside, take care of myself, and hopefully return in one piece.........and I don't have a blog, so I no expert.
Yea, I forgot about the blog! Got to have a blog to be an expert. Blog, video camera, u-tube clip to link too.
I suppose if you have both blog and U-tube channel you are superman!
There are too much experts, masters, "professional" survival trainers and survival TV/video shows stars. I'm just a wilderness addict :red_indian:
Echo2
02-19-2013, 06:13 PM
Well.....I'm still alive....:)
Sourdough
02-19-2013, 06:18 PM
Just REMEMBER that sooner or later "Everyone" Fails to Survive.
Sourdough
02-19-2013, 06:19 PM
Well.....I'm still alive....:)
This too shall pass.................
kyratshooter
02-19-2013, 07:07 PM
Just REMEMBER that sooner or later "Everyone" Fails to Survive.
I have a friend who is 82 years old.
His mother reciently passed away.
They took it as a terrible shock and considered it a sudden tragic experience. The doctors had failed them, the hospital failed them, the medical system failed them!
She was 102 years old!
They could not figure out why she just suddenly stopped breathing.
BENESSE
02-19-2013, 07:27 PM
I love that kind of optimism.
ElevenBravo
02-19-2013, 09:56 PM
I do not own a video camera and do not have a u-tube channel, so that leaves me out.
Thjose are the two primary requirements, correct?
No, not at all... but what it does do is validate that you actually DO something, in contrast to just typing about it..
Plus info, experience and knowledge... no matter how basic, should be shared so it may be passed on and/or encourage others to get in the woods.
EB
Until someone pays me, I'm still an amateur. :-)
BENESSE
02-20-2013, 08:43 AM
What makes someone an expert IMP, is experience. Doesn't mean you're ever done learning but without being put to a test, it's only theoretical. And theoretical survival is pretty much an oxymoron.
kyratshooter
02-20-2013, 10:41 AM
No, not at all... but what it does do is validate that you actually DO something, in contrast to just typing about it..
Plus info, experience and knowledge... no matter how basic, should be shared so it may be passed on and/or encourage others to get in the woods.
EB
So without a camera everyone is a suspect of fraud.
So a Cree Indian in northern Canada that has lived a life in the wilderness, and does not own a camera, has to buy one to prove his abilities?
But some fool with a camera, that has never left his back yard, is and 'expert" because he as a recording?
Does that meand that Nesmck, Kepart, Whelan, Angiers and all the other writers of the past did not know what they were doing because they wrote instead of filmed?
Lord save us from the techno-junkies!
Echo2
02-20-2013, 10:50 AM
So without a camera everyone is a suspect of fraud.
So a Cree Indian in northern Canada that has lived a life in the wilderness, and does not own a camera, has to buy one to prove his abilities?
But some fool with a camera, that has never left his back yard, is and 'expert" because he as a recording?
Does that meand that Nesmck, Kepart, Whelan, Angiers and all the other writers of the past did not know what they were doing because they wrote instead of filmed?
Lord save us from the techno-junkies!
Is that really what you took from his post?.....geeezzz.
kyratshooter
02-20-2013, 11:02 AM
Is that really what you took from his post?.....geeezzz.
I can only take from the post what you write. You act like writing is not 'sharing".
As it is, "sharing" is far over rated. The modern media has allowed too many fools with no skills and no communication talent to pollute the minds of the masses. There was a time when some measure of intelligence and ability was necessary to get a work/book published. Those days are past. and bad grammer, ignorance and computer skills now replace real talent.
I am so sick of being linked to badly produced U-tube clips and bad blogs I just ignore them unless I have some knowledge of the person from their writings of a forum and feel thy know what they are doing before I hit the button.
I do not watch the evening news either, for much the same rasons!
Echo2
02-20-2013, 11:17 AM
EB gets out there and practices his skills just about every weekend....and yes....he vid records a lot of it.
My thought is kudo to him for trying....I'll wager he learns something new every time he goes out.
He's not bashing you for not recording it.....simply making a generalized statement.....not attacking anyone....lighten up.
How exactly do you get from my post....that writing is not sharing?
Wildthang
02-20-2013, 11:30 AM
I think the true and real survivors of the world do not write blogs, they don't film, and they don't publish books, they just live life and pass on, never with any validation of what they have done!
BENESSE
02-20-2013, 11:37 AM
I think the true and real survivors of the world do not write blogs, they don't film, and they don't publish books, they just live life and pass on, never with any validation of what they have done!
Why does it have to be so mutually exclusive? Communication evolves with the times. Used to be word of mouth, then it was recorded, on and on. If no one ever wrote anything down to begin with the entire human civilization would be SOL.
kyratshooter
02-20-2013, 11:39 AM
Sorry E2, I had confused your post with another.
Due to growing up with written material I have some difficulty keeping up with the confusion of multiple posts from various detractors and defenders in a single thread.
It is much the same on U-tube, where the chin whiskers, baseball cap or boonie hat and wrap around sunglasses all blend together into a single generic survivalist flatly staring into the camera, pre-empting every phrase with "you know?" or "AHHH", closely followed by "hold my beer and watch this" the last of which they will occasionally edit out.
Or the never ending shot of a stump with some freikish huge knife stuck in the middle while the "reviewer" drones endlessly reading the label on the package it arrived in.
Ms B is spot on with the total of all usable information, the main problem with this day and age being the easy disimination of so much useless time wasting crap.
It seems that every trip to the back yard requires documentation, instantly imparting expertise I suppose.
I fondly remember the day when one could attempt to avoid the video/movie camera owner, freshly returned from his vacation to wherever. One could have other engagements, late work or have an emergency that pulled one away from the sickening boredom of sitting and watching anothers home made movies.
Now he shows up with blue highlights begging for attention in every other post.
I find still shots much more informative, and artistic. Usually the photographer looks at the shot before posting and makes some effort to edit and present the best shots.
Same with books. Most published works have some demand for structure and have been edited for grammer, punctation (praise God) and spelling.
Wildthang
02-20-2013, 11:44 AM
Why does it have to be so mutually exclusive? Communication evolves with the times. Used to be word of mouth, then it was recorded, on and on. If no one ever wrote anything down to begin with the entire human civilization would be SOL.
Communication is a wonderful thing, but with all of the medias available today, their are too many wanna be fakes that are sharing information. So it tends to make people like Kyrat and me just stay away from it. It's not worth sorting through the stupid to see one meaningful video or article!
hunter63
02-20-2013, 11:44 AM
Well, it seem that some of the newbies that we are getting lately are of,
Hi
I'm a newbie, I saw a couple of Bear vids, and learned a "stuff",.....but I gotta blog and do u tubes of all sorts of stuff y'all have already done.....so I gonna come to your site so as you all can lookie at me.
Please keep all those lists and tips coming so I can steal them, with copy and paste, ...no one will notice if I post it as my stuff on another Survival site....cause non of you dinosaurs know 'bout computers.
All you old guys that have been hunting, trapping, fishing, logging construction, road building, tending animal, and of course the combination of everything...farming..... all year long using tractors, trucks, heavy equipment, canoes, boats, horses, dog teams....living in tents, bunk houses, logging camps, line shacks.....a lot a cases building your own dwelling,.....have been doing it wrong all these years. ( I mean history started in 1963, right?)
So sit back and let me "Survival Baby Bear", show you the way........
Party On
birdman6660
02-20-2013, 11:49 AM
im not an expert .. not sure there is such a thing ... but I believe Im ready for "ALMOST" anything ....
BENESSE
02-20-2013, 12:17 PM
Communication is a wonderful thing, but with all of the medias available today, their are too many wanna be fakes that are sharing information. So it tends to make people like Kyrat and me just stay away from it. It's not worth sorting through the stupid to see one meaningful video or article!
I hear you, same thing ticks me off as well. But the oneness is on us to be smarter and more discerning. Go to proven sources, disregard the rest. It's really that simple.
There were snake oil salesmen since the dawn of time and some people fell for them just like they do now. It has always been buyer beware whether it comes to info or stuff.
Old Professor
02-20-2013, 12:26 PM
Remember the definition of "expert". ex = unknown and a spurt is a drip under pressure! Sure describes most bloggers who claim to be "survival experts". I do not consider my self a survival expert or gru but i have been teaching the survival and first aid portions of the Hunter Safety course for fifty years. Imparting survival basics to youth has been rewarding! They have to begin somewere!
kyratshooter
02-20-2013, 12:43 PM
Which brings us to another point;
After an indefinate number of years some of us "experts" can no longer get out there and punish ourselves. Our hands fall victim to authritis, our backs go out and stay out, our feet hurt and knees and hips get replaced.
Ain't going to be any fancy vidieos made of US.
Since we can no longer "do" are we no longer knowledgable?
Expertise is not always performance linked.
Terms are more important than we sometimes realize, allowing access to rescources or denying it, just based on the label prefixing the name.
We can belittle the "expert" or deny "expertise", and reduce ourselves to the status of perpetual students, then who will teach?
The guys with the video cameras?
Eventually someone has to be "Grasshopper" and someone else "Master".
Cast-Iron
02-20-2013, 01:22 PM
I think the true and real survivors of the world do not write blogs, they don't film, and they don't publish books, they just live life and pass on, never with any validation of what they have done!
I would have to agree with you WT. A lot of what I have learned over the years (about outdoor/survival skills) has come from either first hand experience (aka trial & error) or watching someone who has actually been there....done that. All too often when I watch a video by some well-intentioned person/people, I get the impression they either don't have very good communication skills or they have never experienced what they're trying to demonstrate.
Wildthang
02-20-2013, 01:38 PM
I would have to agree with you WT. A lot of what I have learned over the years (about outdoor/survival skills) has come from either first hand experience (aka trial & error) or watching someone who has actually been there....done that. All too often when I watch a video by some well-intentioned person/people, I get the impression they either don't have very good communication skills or they have never experienced what they're trying to demonstrate.
Yeah I know what you mean man! Everybody these days are dying to put things out on the media like, look at me, look what i did, because it is so easy to do. This to me detracts from the media, and what is available because you have millions of half baked no nothing video's and blogs, and very few meaningful articles and videos.
Most of the true survivalists I know would not have a clue how to make a video, or create a blog, they just live the life! I have friends that live out in the wolderness in Oklahoma that served in Vietnam, and upon returning home, discovered that their service was not appreciated. So they bought a house as far out in the woods as they could get, and made a life for themselves. They dont have internet, and most of them don't have TV or a phone either. They eek out a living any way they can and have learned all of the skills the hard way. They are some of my best friends and I would trust them with my life. They have purposely left technology behind, and adopted a very simple way of life living in the wilderness and being at peace with their surroundings.
I took one of them to Oklahoma City to the Veterens hospital one time, and he was starting to panick from just being in a big city. When I ask him what was wrong, all he could say is too many people! It had been around 10 years since he had been to a town that large, and it was freaking him out!
Old GI
02-20-2013, 02:32 PM
I AM A SURVIVAL EXPERT!!!!!!!!!!!!! .................................................. ...................Oh, the alarm clock just went off.
Seriously, if being an expert is knowing everything there is to know about a subject ------- no one can lay claim to that title (with the possible exception if you have a wardrobe full of your hong selection).
But if it means you have the experience and ability to teach others what you have learned, then you may qualify
Seniorman
02-20-2013, 10:16 PM
KYRATSHOOTER - "After an indefinate number of years some of us "experts" can no longer get out there and punish ourselves. Our hands fall victim to authritis, our backs go out and stay out, our feet hurt and knees and hips get replaced."
Brother, ain't that the everlasting truth?! :clap:
S.M.
endurance
02-21-2013, 01:20 PM
Expert- ˈekspərt
Noun
Comes from two words, ex- meaning a former relationship with and pert- from the work pertinent. So expert means A person who used to know something pertinent.
What one knew before may not necessarily be pertinent to the current setting or situation, no matter how much one thinks one knows.
Wildthang
02-21-2013, 01:59 PM
I was sitting here reading this thread, and started thinking, if ole Blade was still here, how would he reply to this thread?
hunter63
02-21-2013, 02:25 PM
Well, see, it's been slow lately on fruitcakes to toss.....ya gotta just toss them just a little bit, or they break......
Alaskan Survivalist
02-21-2013, 02:36 PM
"A man is only as good as his word". If unwilling to stand behind those words with any proof EVER...you do the math.
Wildthang
02-21-2013, 02:44 PM
Well, see, it's been slow lately on fruitcakes to toss.....ya gotta just toss them just a little bit, or they break......
Well I really miss hearing the stories about the " Green Anaconda................Green anaconda ", I guess we should watch that green anaconda youtube movie again:scared:
hunter63
02-21-2013, 02:51 PM
Noooooooo,..... not the Green Anaconda.....ANYTHING but the Green Anaconda!
Artzi
02-22-2013, 01:46 PM
Does it count if you wanna be one!? ... Survival expert just sounds so super cool! :sailor:
Winter
02-22-2013, 03:44 PM
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/expert
According to webster, most of us are.
Sarge47
02-22-2013, 06:07 PM
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/expert
According to webster, most of us are.
Wow! And you don't even need a "blog" or a "big-azz knife" for slicing tires! ......:innocent:
Wildthang
02-22-2013, 06:24 PM
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/expert
According to webster, most of us are.
Holy cow, we know it all now:smartass: Look out Blade:scared:
old2531
02-28-2013, 11:26 PM
the survivor experts i wanna talk to are the 100 yr olds so i can learn from them ,i used to know a guy that was a bombadeer in ww1(yes ww1) bombers goodness he had lots of stories
Mischief
03-01-2013, 03:29 PM
The only true survival expert we have had on here was Blade, heck he was boasting of challenging all of those guys on TV:scared:
He is a expert BS'r ,I belive
1stimestar
03-01-2013, 05:18 PM
Wow! And you don't even need a "blog" or a "big-azz knife" for slicing tires! ......:innocent:
But..but...then what the heck am I going to do with this blog!? Well crapweasel.
Sarge47
03-01-2013, 06:02 PM
The only true survival expert we have had on here was Blade, heck he was boasting of challenging all of those guys on TV:scared:
Given the way some of those TV types are, Blade might have been right to a certain extent. They just need to be careful where they park their vehicles......:crying:
kyratshooter
03-01-2013, 06:29 PM
the survivor experts i wanna talk to are the 100 yr olds so i can learn from them ,i used to know a guy that was a bombadeer in ww1(yes ww1) bombers goodness he had lots of stories
My GG-father was born in 1865 and lived until 1967. He was clear minded right up till the end of his days and able to walk around the yard and sit and talk. I realized he was a treasure and I had the chace to talk to him and learn from him until I was 17. It was one of the few wise moves I have made in my life.
Lincoln was president when he was born.
He read about Custer's massacre in the newspaper.
He was 35 when Teddy Rosevelt was presidemt.
He was too old to go to WW1
He had retired by the time WW2 occurred.
He lived to see men go into space.
I remember him plowing his garden with a mule when he was 90. They still hauled water from a spring and heated their house with chunk coal in open fireplaces. GGM was still cooking on a wood cookstove too. They had caved in and gotten electricity around 1960, but just used it for lights and a fridge. They considered the fridge a miricle device.
I did not just get to hear about it, I got to see them still living much as they had lived before our modern convinience oriented society developed.
crashdive123
03-01-2013, 09:20 PM
I'll bet he was a real treasure to be around. Glad you had the chance.
Sarge47
03-01-2013, 10:09 PM
Survival Kit...$20.
Survival book...$15.
Kyrat's GGF.....Priceless!....:thumbup:
endurance
03-02-2013, 02:48 PM
the survivor experts i wanna talk to are the 100 yr olds so i can learn from them ,i used to know a guy that was a bombadeer in ww1(yes ww1) bombers goodness he had lots of stories
You might be a bit late. They'd be about 112 or 113 now if they were 18 in 1918.
My step-father was in Patton's army in during the North African campaign. Infantry. He'll talk your ear off about the great depression, tell you all about boot camp, and tell you all about coming home and making a family once he was back on US shores, but he won't talk about anything he did over there. He's said some things like "I had two men assigned to me to hand me loaded rifles because I was such a good shot," and "I saw things that I just can't talk about," but that's about the most I've ever gotten out of him. I didn't grow up with him, he married my mom about a decade ago. Now he's 92 and probably in his last year or two of life. I'm just damn grateful folks like him existed back then and continue to step forward today. He's the reason I seldom listen to blowhards and braggards on their conquests of war. The folks who've actually lived it rarely want to share it. ...or at least that's been my experience.
hunter63
03-02-2013, 02:52 PM
Hve to agree with that...MF didn't have much to say as well.....WWII Army Air Corps
kyratshooter
03-02-2013, 03:15 PM
I'll bet he was a real treasure to be around. Glad you had the chance.
The most influnce it had on me was the effect it had on my Mom!
She had grown up spending her summers with GGM and GGD. They worked the garden, cooked, dried foods, canned, worked the tobacco fields, milking cows....
The result was a mother, in the 1950s/1960s, that had no hesitation in allowing her 4 year old to use a pocket knife, under supervision, and felt that an 8 year old should have one in his possession 24/7. A 10 year old should have his own Daisey Red Ryder and a shotgun was just another tool in the outdoor kit. When I was 16, and started driving, the announcement of a weekend camping trip or hunting excursion was greeted with "Have fun!" (How many 16 year olds get turned lose for a weekend alone in the woods w/car and rifle? I think they arrest you for that today!)
She also was not hesitant to pack us up and send us kids to the farm for about a month each summer. Of course by then it was to her Dad's farm and not GGD. Same effect, different generation!
Of course my Grandad was born in 1898, and had learned a thing or two from his father. I was 30 when he passed away. At 70 he was still working an acre of garden, milking a cow, raising goats and doing general farm work.
He was the one that took me on my first hunting trip, age 4! We went on our last walk, gun in hand, in 1976.
birdman6660
03-02-2013, 03:17 PM
survival kit...$20.
Survival book...$15.
Kyrat's ggf.....priceless!....:thumbup:
agreed !!!
old2531
03-02-2013, 05:45 PM
to endurance i met him 40 yrs ago my dad was in merchant marines in ww2 and one of my uncles was in korea they wouldnt talk about it either my oldest brother told me not to trust the arvn's in nam if it was4:30 pm firefight or not theyd go home for dinner ,i missed nam by a month i had 3 days left in bootcamp when the marines pulled out of nam
Alaskan Survivalist
03-03-2013, 11:28 AM
Honestly I think people know more than they think if they would apply it with some common sense. Some folks are going to have to forget much of the "survival skills" they think they have to survive. Wilderness survival info is driven more by what people want to learn that know nothing than what they need to learn and too many "experts" willing to tap that market. Nobody wants to hear warm clothes eliminates a lot of need to build shelter or 12 ways to build a fire with some kind of gimmick. Where's the skill or prestege in that?
Sarge47
03-03-2013, 01:18 PM
Honestly I think people know more than they think if they would apply it with some common sense. Some folks are going to have to forget much of the "survival skills" they think they have to survive. Wilderness survival info is driven more by what people want to learn that know nothing than what they need to learn and too many "experts" willing to tap that market. Nobody wants to hear warm clothes eliminates a lot of need to build shelter or 12 ways to build a fire with some kind of gimmick. Where's the skill or prestege in that?
"prestege?" Who pays attention to prestige?......:confused: Who's judging us and by what measure? Why wasn't I told about this sooner? Truth is I could give a fat rat's hind end about doing all of the primitive stuff that expands needed energy. This is why we have all the cool things today I still use matches or a Bar-B-Cue lighter to start a fire with...dang, that just cost me some "prestige" points, didn't it?....:crying:
your_comforting_company
03-04-2013, 09:50 AM
I think the simple answer to the original question is "no". I still make lots of mistakes :D
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