Bug Out Locations

[rivervalley47]

I am not sure if this is the best place for this but I am curious if there are others out there who are considering a camper as a "homestead" in the event things get really bad and there is a need to "get out of Dodge". I have been thinking about it for some time now and the other things that go along with it such as water source, power, and perhaps some form of cover. Any advice would be appreciated.

[GreatUsername]

While I like the mobility of a camper, I'd like to remind you that bugging out is generally not something you do long term. Generally speaking, the safest and most reliable way to bug out is to get out of town as quickly as possible, and go stay with some relatives a few states over until the natural disaster clears itself. To think otherwise is a romanticized notion, and while "running to the woods" can work, there are few realistic situations that would call for that level of bug-out.

So, is a camper best? I'd prefer a motorcycle to be honest, or a small car that is unattractive to looters and gets good gas mileage, so you can get to whoever you are staying with quickly and without hassle.

[canid]

It never hurts to have one if you've got a place to keep it.

I've lived in a camper-van, a pop-out and a tent, and heck, it never hurts to have a solid shelter.

If I were considering one, I'd look for:

Firstly: whatever I could get my hands on that was worth using,

Secondly: something light and small enough to be efficient to move.

You may never need it for 'bugging-out' from an emergency, but they sure make a summer at the lake move comfortable.

[Pal334]

My thoughts,, I would not make it a primary plan, but if you can set something up inexpensively , can not hurt to have that option

[Power Giant]

I lived in a camper for a couple of years. It was fine in the summer, not real good in the winter.

[Mouser]

Depends on your location.

I live in a rural area, but I'm only two hours from DC.

I've got route 70, c&o canal, and the railroad that follows the Potomac.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_%26_O_Canal

So any person in good shape can walk the 120 or so miles up the canal in a week or so.

And I'm figuring they will want to head to the mountains...

So I'll bug farther into the hills, and wait it out.

Feel bad for my neighbor, he has six kids

Not much you can do about that.

In the event of a nuclear war with pre-warning...you can find me here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paw_Paw_Tunnel

Bring your own guns and butter.

[kyratshooter]

RV units are very nice and have many features that should be part of every BOL, primarily the redundant power sources. My last one had AC/12v and propane options for heat, light and refregeration. You also have built in sanitation and water storage.

They make a good unit to park on your land and work around and would make good short term BOL shelters.

I would not wish to be banished to the existance of a gipsy constantly in search of a safe place to park, hidden from the zombie horde. An RV is impossible to hide and a very large slow target when on the move. Remember the old days when folk traveled by wagon train, there was a reason for that, safety in numbers.

I would also not decieve myself over the welcome you will get for parking and hiding your mobile BOL. People have some pretty firm ideas about the use of private property. I would not want to wake up one morning and find one parked on my place.

If the situation has deteriated to the point that you can just park anywhere you please, then there will be plenty of abandoned houses to squat in.

I have yet to see one of these "bug out senerios" that was well thought out. As stated earlier, best to have a perminent location prepared and move to it as quickly as possible, or live on it. Some of us cut out losses years ago and did that.

[Stiffy]

As a temporary solution, such as in a response to a natural disaster, that sounds fine. For long term plans, I prefer something less visible.

[Sarge47]

Depending on the situation a motel room makes an ideal BOL! :detective:

[hunter63]

Couple of thoughts on a RV as a BOV/BOL.
You will need a RV, this can be anything form a small trailer to a full blown self contained.......
Remember, the bigger, the more gear you can haul....
But,.....mileage/range will suffer, hard to maneuver in many traffic conditions you may encounter, be it highway or off road.

Even a small trailer, pop-up, small self contained one has the tendency to load it with gear, ..."So it is ready to go"...but if you have to drop it off or abandon it, you need to off load the gear.......Your BOB should be with YOU, what you can carry.

Then there is the "where is the coffee?....Oh I ran out, borrowed the camper coffee, and forgot to replace it"....This happens, be aware.

Now there is the little problem of "Where to go?"....Nice to have you own acreage, within a one fuel tank range....and several plan B, plan C, plan D....Ways of getting there.

Avoid cities, check rivers and such of alternate routes, (bridges)....It don't have to be Zombies, just high water stops you real fast.

Also good to have alternate locations in case your primary BOL is comprised....Lots of reasons.

If you do have acreage, you can park something on it, the route we took.. 1988, RV 1990.....but we didn't know we were bugging out, no one was doing that yet just wanted a "place up north", and the start of a "homestead" (NOT a compound).

Now you have to deal with mice, ants, break-ins.......This was the start of the 55 gal drum cache...supplies away fro the trailer, sealed.....still in use to some extent to this day.

Keep in mind at the time there was a pop up camper (different one), back packing/canoe, hunting camp gear and rendezvous camping gear available and in use.....Pretty much 40+ weekends + 4 weeks vac.... out of 52 per year.
You can say we were Bugging out all the time........But we just called it "Recreation"

The humble start of "The Place" 1990 to 2005, lots of hunting seasons,fishing canoe trips, homesteading, building and planning.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/hunter63/PICT0135.jpg

[ubercrow]

I am not sure if this is the best place for this but I am curious if there are others out there who are considering a camper as a "homestead" in the event things get really bad and there is a need to "get out of Dodge".

If things got "really bad" a camper just leaves you stuck on maintained or semi maintained roads no where to hide. Like shooting fish in a barrel or people in a box.

For more general use campers are getting hard to park these days many forest roads are getting shut down and free camping spots are turning into maintained(outhouse and a ranger) $18+ a nite.

[Sourdough]

Well, I think it is a very bad idea........not personal.

[rivervalley47]

Well, yall have alot of interesting thoughts. I have a 32 foot bumper pull that sleeps 10. I am thinking of placing on family land out in the country, not near any major roads for sure. I am also thinking of putting a cover of sorts over it to not only help conceal it but to have a means of rain collection. Ideally I would have a well drilled and run a solar pump for it. For now I keep my camper at my in-laws where they have a large covered area for their fifth wheel and would easily accommodate mine as well. As far as traveling around during some bad event, no, not going to happen.

[old2531]

all a big rv is is a treasure ship to be grabbed, rv's arnt called land yahts for nothing ive lived in boats and rv's they are both a movable storehouse for supplys which means you have to protect them and posibily kill to keep control of it if shtf are u willing to do that someone else will kill u to get your hoard

[birdman6660]

I must be permanently "BUGGED OUT" as I live in the middle of nowhere ...no hydro grid nearby so we on panels and backup honda genny ...we have all the modern conveniences but cant us em all the time as the sun doesnt keep up in winter lol ...other than that we are bugged out living happily ..

[Power Giant]

I must be permanently "BUGGED OUT" as I live in the middle of nowhere ...no hydro grid nearby so we on panels and backup honda genny ...we have all the modern conveniences but cant us em all the time as the sun doesnt keep up in winter lol ...other than that we are bugged out living happily ..

If you get some deep cycle batteries and maybe a power inverter you can run stuff all winter long.

[birdman6660]

If you get some deep cycle batteries and maybe a power inverter you can run stuff all winter long.

i guess I shoulda explained better ....lol .. I have a 24 volt 3,500 watt inverter and 12 /.. 6 volt solar batteries .. BUT they dont keep up to demand always .. so three more panels are going up .. they are 235 watt mono .. they charge at 36 volts and work very well .. sorry bout the confusion !

[endurance]

To me, it really depends on what you're bugging out for. If you live in wildland fire country and might need to grab the wife, kids, pets and poultry in a hurry, an RV might be the perfect solution because you can have it pre-packed, add a lot of last minute things like your laptops, clothes, and other valuables with plenty of room, and arrive at a local campground that's well away from the smoke and danger and still be in a familiar setting. The same kind of bugout would be ideal for a hurricane and it's unlikely to be phased by a major earthquake since it can rock and roll on its own with no connection to land to disturb it.

As far as EROL/TEOTWAWKI scenarios, well, as others have mentioned, there's a road leading right to it, but there's a road leading to most buildings, too. Personally, I'd only trust it as a end of the world bug out if I knew where I was going and that place could be well secured. Just heading out into the national forest is not a plan. You should know how you're going to get there, have provisions, both short-term and long in place (perhaps even a little permaculture developed in advance), and know the lay of the land well enough to know its weaknesses in any season.

[birdman6660]

If you get some deep cycle batteries and maybe a power inverter you can run stuff all winter long.

ok .. i was asked if i would post pics of my meager solar / wind system .....i will also try to post pics of other parts of our homestead to maybe help other folkkjs with idesas .. here goes !8907890889098910

FIRST PICTURE IS SIMPLY MY EARLY MORNING LIGHTING ( COal OIL LAMP) the rest are a portion of the battery system .. 24 volt system presently hooked up to a 1500 watt inverter ... ( big one died) if anyone is interested in seeing the rest of the homestead we live in full time just ask .. IE animal raising .. wind power ... 12 volt pumps ..hating water ... we have the inside of a 40 Gallon HWT standing beside our woodstove .. hot water with no extra energy beiing consumed ..lots of self learned tips n tricks .. cheers folks and have a great day ..

[birdman6660]

well, i think it is a very bad idea........not personal.

agreed ! \i think one would become a target in bad times !!!

[Dennis]

I like the idea of a camper granted it won't work for every situation but I feel it's a good option. I have a toy hauler that I bought from a salvage yard. It was new with no damage. It's mostly loaded and ready to go. This thing has a ton of room inside with two beds that fold up against the wall. When I take the grand kids they get to sleep on the blow op mattresses.

These first two pics are when I brought it home before I added the beds and a few other things.
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m272/cjweaver73/BC%20Outdoors/ToyHauler005.jpg

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m272/cjweaver73/BC%20Outdoors/ToyHauler004.jpg

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m272/cjweaver73/BC%20Outdoors/survivalstuff033.jpg

[Delta 5168]

Throw a small narrow wooden wedge into your BOB. If you're on the move, you may be able to find an empty storage room to lay low in. Use the small wedge to jam the rollers on the overhead door so it can't be opened. Just cross your fingers that some fool doesn't come along and throw a lock on the outside.

[hunter63]

Now that's pretty nice.....I like that......DW wants "slide outs....LOL
I love my trailers.....and find them a comfort when out and about and need a spot to get out of the rain.

[old2531]

one thing about a bug out rv your limited to travel where the roads let u as to power go to an old car auto wreckers pick up a couple of generaters and mechanical voltage regulators they can be hooked up to a windmill or even a water wheel ,can do the same with an alternator but get one that has an external regulator ,rvs are great but when the holding tanks are full and your in hide mode what do u have planned to get those tanks empty .then u have the cost id had a med range 5th wheel and between truck and trailer just to hook up i had 60,000 invested in equipment if you have your rv on location u have to make it critter proof critters will eat your wiring spiders will get inside bring your bug bomb,mice will live in your insulation and it only takes a couple days for your hide away home to be a great place for bees or wasps to live--- so rvs yep loved mine would i do again no id get something like an old uhual truck theres thousands out there convert that inside to a rig to get away you can still tow a small truck behind or bring a bike with u i tried the bike bit ownd 4 spilled 4 so no bikes for me

[hunter63]

My ideal is still an old ambulance, with heavy duty everything.
Racked out, plenty of generators, and space to carry gear.
Put a hazmat sign on it, and no one would ever stop you..........

[endurance]

You need to be picky on this one, hunter. Our VFD has one ambulance that is possessed by some form of poltergeist. There's so many electronics hooked up to it that they're an absolute nightmare to trouble shoot when you do have a problem. With ours, the headlights spontaneously come on for no reason and kill the battery sometimes (when somebody forgets to plug it in) and the lights in the back go out without warning and you have to turn off the engine and restart to get them back on (which is not convenient when you're running a call, might I add).

Also, watch out for Ford chassis. There was a period of time in the late 90s or early 00s where they had a different fuel line routing for the chassis being sold for ambulances and Winnebagoes than pick up trucks. A few manufacturers of both bought the pick up trucks and the way they ran the exhaust, it resulted in catastrophic fires. There was a big recall, but you'd sure what to check to make sure they didn't miss the one you bought and didn't know better.

[Rick]

Man, you guys need to make runs like the Army. Ambulance followed by a spare ambulance on a tow truck.

Here you go, Hunter. This is my idea of the BOV. And Pinzgauer's aren't that expensive.

http://grabawrench.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/GAW-Pinzgauer.jpg

[hunter63]

You need to be picky on this one, hunter. Our VFD has one ambulance that is possessed by some form of poltergeist. There's so many electronics hooked up to it that they're an absolute nightmare to trouble shoot when you do have a problem. With ours, the headlights spontaneously come on for no reason and kill the battery sometimes (when somebody forgets to plug it in) and the lights in the back go out without warning and you have to turn off the engine and restart to get them back on (which is not convenient when you're running a call, might I add).

Also, watch out for Ford chassis. There was a period of time in the late 90s or early 00s where they had a different fuel line routing for the chassis being sold for ambulances and Winnebagoes than pick up trucks. A few manufacturers of both bought the pick up trucks and the way they ran the exhaust, it resulted in catastrophic fires. There was a big recall, but you'd sure what to check to make sure they didn't miss the one you bought and didn't know better.

Details, details....we are dicussing concepts on how to GET to the BOL.....like the idea of a spare w/tow truck......

[hunter63]

Man, you guys need to make runs like the Army. Ambulance followed by a spare ambulance on a tow truck.

Here you go, Hunter. This is my idea of the BOV. And Pinzgauer's aren't that expensive.

http://grabawrench.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/GAW-Pinzgauer.jpg

I like that........Oh Honey, gonna be needing of of these......(haven't bought much since she shut me down after discussion on that English destroyer)

[old2531]

heres an idea when i was full time rving i met a guy that had this for a rig set up he had a used bobtail truck and a 25 ft travel trailer .he used the truck as a rolling shop he was retired but made extra cash as an on site rv repairman. his idea was good i think he had tools could barter his labor for goods or cash

[scumbucket]

I own a 1956 Shasta camp trailer. No crapper, no shower, just a place to eat and sleep, is 14 ft long and I pull it with my Toyota 4 banger pickemuptruck. Does great, and it's part of my BO program. My marriage is not the best so this can come in handy at anytime. I use lanterns, cook stoves, etc.. I have water barrels for water to. I can bug out to a spring I've fixed up and be a happy man. the trailer is water proof, so I'm always dry inside, and do a lot of winter camping, so of it in the trailer. It's just an option, not something I have to rely on. Paid $200 for it and have almost finished restoring it. I don't care whether anyone approves or not, it's mine.

[Wildthang]

I have a 6X12 covered trailer that is all I need for a bug out trailer. I could paint it cammo and pile brush up around it and it would be very hard to spot. It is light enough that my 4 wheel drive should be able to pull it to a secure out of the way location. It would not be as comfortable as an RV, but it hides easily and only weighs 1200 pounds. It would keep the rain of our heads and would be easy to heat.

[hunter63]

I own a 1956 Shasta camp trailer. No crapper, no shower, just a place to eat and sleep, is 14 ft long and I pull it with my Toyota 4 banger pickemuptruck. Does great, and it's part of my BO program. My marriage is not the best so this can come in handy at anytime. I use lanterns, cook stoves, etc.. I have water barrels for water to. I can bug out to a spring I've fixed up and be a happy man. the trailer is water proof, so I'm always dry inside, and do a lot of winter camping, so of it in the trailer. It's just an option, not something I have to rely on. Paid $200 for it and have almost finished restoring it. I don't care whether anyone approves or not, it's mine.

There is a lot to be said for those old trailers........Congrats.
Used a '63 Shasta for a lot of years, at "The Place' before the cabin came along, and did wonderfully....Lots of hunting seasons and good times there.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/hunter63/new%20album/PICT0135.jpg

Donated it to a "Homeless guy" that was living in a kinda straw covered Yurt, and old blue bus.....the land he was living on got sold so he was able to "move" is house......so the old Shasta is still in service.
Had to put tires on it to move it so it cost me $60 bucks....to Give it away....LOL

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/hunter63/new%20album/DSCF0098.jpg

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[old2531]

heres a light option 8915 add a better entry, its built on a trailer kit this is small enough it can be towed by a front wheel drive vehicle (under 2,000 lbs )

[tuffsierra]

My vehicle covers most base for bugging out full 4wd easy to repair tonnes of room for everything plenty of clearance and not gonna be to easy to notice in the bush if trying to keep a low profile

[kyratshooter]

I think some of you folks need to take a little trip.

I just ran the I75 corridor from the Ohio river to Tampa Bay, 950 mile one way.

On the entire trip down and back traffic was basically bumper to bumper. Any little glitch and things slowed to a crawl, or stopped entirely. At several points I passed backed up vehicles wall to wall for 15-20 miles in the opposing lanes.

The tail lights at night looked like a sea of lava speeding off into infinity.

There was not a crisis in effect!

It was not even tourist season!

I use an interstate route as my main access to town and often I am forced off the highway only to find the side roads packed just like the interstate. Often I have to take alternate routes to escape the side roads!

A week ago one inch of snow shut down the entire coridor for 30 miles while ten seperate collisions were cleared over a 5 mile streach.

I fear that unless you get a week advance notice not many are bugging out anywhere, in anything, so all this expense might be better spent on food or beefing up the old stationary shelter.

My RV does have one advantage; I can park that sucker right over the septic tank and run the line directly into the system. A couple of tarps funneling water into the holding tank when it rains, a good solar pannel and I am pretty much set for staying home and downsizing the lifestyle.

[scumbucket]

I know some will disagree, but I have a 1955 Shasta camp trailer, it has a stove, beds, cooler, closet, table to eat off of, sink and it's about 14 ft long. I love this thing, I have restored it so it looks good, and is comfy. I can pull it with my little Toyota Tacoma 4 banger pickup. This is my secondary item. We have a cabin in the woods on our own property, but if King O and his henchmen find us and take away our home, this is my backup plan. We can set it up in a few minutes and have a shelter to live in, and a creek nearby for water, supplies already cached at the site, allow us to just take off disappear. No one is going to be able to fight government troops belonging to King O, so the idea is to be invisible. I've set my little trailer up in the forest and had it in the same spot spring, summer and fall lots of times and no one knew where it was or bothered it. This is my backup plan. This way I don't have to build a shelter out in the sticks to hide.

[rickgu]

Hi birdman6660,
Do you know any specific areas in northern ontario that suit for bug out?

[hunter63]

Hunter63 saying Hey and Welcome.
There is an intro section at:
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?14-Introductions

birdman6660 hasn't posted anything since 4-20-14

Kinda cold in northern Ontario?
Geared up?

[birdman6660]

Hey ... rickgu ... if U really want good BOL texxt me ..705-938-0831

Not posting often ... but always watching ... so few are really doing any prepping ...
So many think a tri power camper will work for you ling term ..
B 4 SHTF ..TRY IT OUT !

U wont like the outcomè ..... u want to be ready ?

.get a BOL OUT OF THE WAY FROM EVERYTHING as far as possible
.set up infrastructure and stock it and wait .... a Bob is a joke .... a bug back home bag has a use for sure ...bit if u Think u gonna grab your BOB and escape into the bush youre in for a big surprise ....

[crashdive123]

Seriously? One post on an internet forum and you're giving out your cell phone?

[hunter63]

Birdman good to see ya....been awhile.
But have to agree about the phone number....

[Rick]

I'm bugging out to Northern Ontario. I figure it'll take me 20 days to get there. My bag weighs 300 pounds. Haven't figured that out yet but I'm working on it. If that guy turns out to be a serial killer I'm gonna be ticked.

[WalkingTree]

I always been fascinated by houseboats. When I get rich, I might build one that can have a produce garden on it and fishing gear. Hehe.

[Rick]

The house goes on top the boat. Just sayin'......

[WalkingTree]

It does?? Are you sure? I don't know man...I think you're trying to trick me...

[crashdive123]

The house goes on top the boat. Just sayin'......


It does?? Are you sure? I don't know man...I think you're trying to trick me...

That has not been my experience for the "house boats" I have lived on.

[kyratshooter]

You are a special case Crash, you were living in the belly of the whale!

[Antonyraison]

Why not build your own floating island, no I mean like for real, some one has done this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnLhWpy_nqI

[WalkingTree]

That's funny, I was about to post something like that...since your vid didn't take, maybe this is the one? Or not...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnLhWpy_nqI


And that's even funnier...looks like my vid won't take either. Might mean it's the same one, and it's on some setting that doesn't let it be posted.

[WalkingTree]

How 'bout this...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El6AU3riRI8

Ok man...that's not right...arg!

[hunter63]

Well, what do you know....This vid actually played ..my You Tube is touchy lately.

I will say that was a pretty cool vid and great idea.....kind f reminds me of all the alternate housing and building of the '70's and '80's

Wonder how it hold up in rough water?

Thanks for posting.

[rebel]

That's neat. I wonder about long term integrity.

[kyratshooter]

That's neat. I wonder about long term integrity.

That thing does not even have any "short term integrity"! It is falling apart right under his feet.

[WalkingTree]

I was wondering how long the water bottles last. What kind of bottles...different kinds of plastic. Says the roots go in among them. Better keep replenishing those bottles.

But then again, hey, that's the point? Can easily keep refurbishing things. I'd say get some serious floatation and structure, but that might not be recycling and free. Keep maintenance and evolution, could do alright. No?

I tell ya...when I get rich, my survival houseboat's gonna be so cool. China did it, why can't I? Oh wait, their's isn't floating is it?

[hunter63]

Was a Reality show on here awhile back...Ice Lake Rebels.....around Yellow Knife on the Great Slave Lake...
Want to go to the Great White North?.....Here ya go.

http://www.wapawekka.com/ice-lake-rebels-yellowknife-bay-houseboats/

Kinda cool as they deal with ice possibly wreaking their "houses'.

I you look up Yellow Knife on Google Maps....you can make out the house boats....lots of them.

Actually a lot of house boat communities all over...some even have gardens on rafts.

[Roel]

We build our BOL just 150 meters from our farmhouse. Hidden by a wall and in the future the trees will be so big that it's impossible to see the building.
And now I find out that I can't post any pictures here... something with "exceeds" in it, but my pictures are no bigger than 90 kb....Help...? :confused1:

[Rick]

Are you trying to upload the picture or are you using a photo service? If you are trying to upload the picture then you will see a box that tells you how large the picture can be by file type. My guess is you have exceeded the file size for that type of file (bmp., jpg, gif, etc.). You might also trying resizing your photo to something like 640 X 400. Knowing what the error message is would help.

[Roel]

I get an alert box saying "2.jpg: Exceeds your quota by 37.4 kB" followed by the HTML codes for a link "Click here to see your attachments" which cannot be clicked because it is shown as text in the alert box.

[DSJohnson]

I am not a big fan of the whole "Bug Out" concept. Having said that I think it is very smart to discuss "rally points" and "sheltered areas" that may be a possible location if you absolutely have no choice about abandoning your residence. I have a very hard time creating a scenario that makes "Bugging Out" feasible/reasonable.

[hunter63]

I am not a big fan of the whole "Bug Out" concept. Having said that I think it is very smart to discuss "rally points" and "sheltered areas" that may be a possible location if you absolutely have no choice about abandoning your residence. I have a very hard time creating a scenario that makes "Bugging Out" feasible/reasonable.

Logic goes out the window when one is building for the a fantasy.
Who's to say what action would be correct... "At time of.... What?'

Back in the 70's, 80's it was Homesteads....
Then the survivalist expanded this into "compounds"......add peppers for all sorts of alternate methods and systems.

Was caught up in my own version of "A Place"...a combination.... Homestead.../hunting shack...vacation home ...../ retirement dwelling.../Hobby farmer.../a playground for all sorts of alternate methods........and has for a long time......
And investment.....or most wouyld look at it as a "goal to be worked for"

Would my BOL be my first choice?.....Depends....But "Home", has most of my stuff, supplies, gear...and the community to help out in hard times.

You need to be careful on what gear supplies left at the BOL.....may be stolen, or even worst "occupied" when you got there.....after 4 hours on the road...if there is a road?

So not my first choice....
Possible likely scenarios in our area for a Bug Out...House burned down, tornado, are the most likely....
Most other likely problems.....hunkering down may be the best bet.

All that said...Planning, working, building, learning playing with all that goes with it.....Is just fun rewording.
Besides I suck at golf.

[madmax]

Bug out. 29' pontoon boat set up for long term camping. Slide in camper for F-250. Expedition canoe to use nearby river to get to a river to get to a river to get to the Intercoastal Waterway. Mountain cabin you can't drive to, a handful of people know it's there. Mountainbikes.

...then my body betrayed me and I can barely get to the latrine and back. Best laid plans.

[Rick]

Did you plan to put the F-250 and the motobikes in the canoe. Cause.........

[kyratshooter]

Bug out. 29' pontoon boat set up for long term camping. Slide in camper for F-250. Expedition canoe to use nearby river to get to a river to get to a river to get to the Intercoastal Waterway. Mountain cabin you can't drive to, a handful of people know it's there. Mountainbikes.

...then my body betrayed me and I can barely get to the latrine and back. Best laid plans.

Yep, just about the time you get your retreat all in order and fully equipped someone sticks you in an assisted living center and the staff hides the keys to your mobility scooter at night!

[madmax]

I started thinking about aging a year or so ago and did a search for a "community of likeminded people". Found one close and visited.

HOOOOOWEEEEE!!! That was a mistake... Let's just say I wasn't "like minded". No more visits to any of those.

[crashdive123]

I remember you telling about that "community". You were lucky to get out in one piece.

[hunter63]

I really have a disdain for the phrase "likeminded people"...add "community" to it....total alarm goes off.
Even seeing it posted andy where..... gives me willies, I stop reading....and run away as fast as I can.

"Like minded", means "I'm in charge and you WILL agree with me, and do what I say"
When coupled to "community"....means "Come on in, we want your money and labor".....

I hate threads the start "likeminded people"...........Thats it for me.....AMF

[madmax]

Curiosity killed the cat.

[hunter63]

Curiosity killed the cat.

I hear ya......Curiosity killed the cat is right.....LOL

"Won" a Free 6" (yeah that is 6 inch) TV back when.... for going to look at time share condo/cabin/hotel...open house.....

Full court hard sell ,not gonna let you out the door, bring in the reinforcements....sales pitch.....
This was in central Wisconsin....not for form my folks place, MIL cottage...and my "Place".

I just wanted to get out of there.....
So looking at the condo...they were showing me the woods and fields.... the walking/cross country trails, club house tennis courts , pool and golf course....Selling me the, Yuppie, Pinkie up umbrella cocktail, country house....life style....6 week a year.

Then came the little 24 X24 cabins...with a view of the lake...if you stood in the road. any looked a couple of block away...you could catch a glimpse....Maybe.

I asked about hunting in the woods and trails.....Though he was gonna choke.....and turned white...
Then inquired how many parking spaces went with each condo/cabin...was told 2...
Told the guy, that's not near enough for my week end parties...and I need to put in for the club house to firm up the reservations for the space .

Asked about motor cycle parking for a dozen Harley's....(before they went mainstream)....

When I told him we owned acreage 60 mild away another 30 miles away...

The handed me the TV and we were shuffled out the back door.....

So much for "Like Minded"...........

[madmax]

My experience was with a much more nefarious group.

[Wise Old Owl]

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[hunter63]

My experience was with a much more nefarious group.

Had to go look that one up....

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nefarious

[kyratshooter]

I did not know you could get that many bad things into one definition with no secondary definition offered at all!

[Rick]

At least we don't have to bug out because of this....yet.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/12/world/europe/world-war-ii-bomb-greece.html

[Manwithnoname]

This may have been already covered, if so, my apologies for not reading the whole string.

Depends on your "bug out" reasons. If you live on the coast and a hurricane is imminent, yeah an rv would be great to get inland to wait it out. Some kind of civil unrest, probably not so great. I've lived in my 22' Winnie Chieftan for now going on 5 yrs. Its best case scenario 10mpg and very off-road non friendly. I'm lucky enough to have family with a couple hundred acres about a 15 minute drive from where I live in the middle of nowhere out here in the Osage if I did have to leave where I'm at. Of course everyone has their own opinion on shoulda woulda coulda but mine on the civil unrest thing is avoid other people at all costs, that ain't very likely in a vehicle of any kind, let alone a weekend warrior bunkhouse on wheels.

[hunter63]

This may have been already covered, if so, my apologies for not reading the whole string.

Depends on your "bug out" reasons. If you live on the coast and a hurricane is imminent, yeah an rv would be great to get inland to wait it out. Some kind of civil unrest, probably not so great. I've lived in my 22' Winnie Chieftan for now going on 5 yrs. Its best case scenario 10mpg and very off-road non friendly. I'm lucky enough to have family with a couple hundred acres about a 15 minute drive from where I live in the middle of nowhere out here in the Osage if I did have to leave where I'm at. Of course everyone has their own opinion on shoulda woulda coulda but mine on the civil unrest thing is avoid other people at all costs, that ain't very likely in a vehicle of any kind, let alone a weekend warrior bunkhouse on wheels.

I agree with that......Exception being a few well trusted friend, neighbors, family.....but not a blind ad on the interwebs.....

[Seniorman]

People who live below the Oroville, Calif., dam, are bugging out right now. If the dam's spillways do give way, they'll have a real chore moving back. I suspect almost all REALISTIC "bugging out" scenarios hinge on natural disasters. At least in the U.S.

Just my opinion on "bugging out."

S.M.

[hunter63]

Now THAT would be a,good reason to Bug Out....those people are in deep crap/water?
What are you gonna take....family heirlooms, records, pic's ...and what ever you can carry.
Most like likely not too many best gun, best knife or camping gear?

I gonna guess most of us agree with you.......
My primary bug out BOB is my Go Bag" clothes and supplies for 5 gats......suitable for hotel/ motel.... cash, CC and cell phone.

Not real concerne about Zombies.

[kyratshooter]

Perhaps some of those Hollywood stars should take their awards up there and make a speech to the water and make it stop!

Perhaps threaten to move to Canada if the lake continues to rise.

[madmax]

LMAO.

Gosh I'm sick of those posturing SOB's

[hunter63]

Perhaps some of those Hollywood stars should take their awards up there and make a speech to the water and make it stop!

Perhaps threaten to move to Canada if the lake continues to rise.

Psssst, many are from Canada...

[birdman6660]

Hi Hunter63 yeah Im always geared up .... ready for SHTF and i hope it gets here soon
Should prove very interesting especially ifbit hits globally whixh Im thinking
It wil ... keep yer eyes peeled and watchin for signs ...

[WalkingTree]

I checked out a place once that was supposed to be like minded and all...

...like minded my butt. like some didn't even have a mind.

Did the same another time with a meetup group. Oh geez. Nope.

[hunter63]

Hi Hunter63 yeah Im always geared up .... ready for SHTF and i hope it gets here soon
Should prove very interesting especially ifbit hits globally whixh Im thinking
It wil ... keep yer eyes peeled and watchin for signs ...

Signs...Hummm ...."4 Sign of the Apocalypse"
Bob Dylan Winning a Nobel Prize
Cubs winning the World Series
Trump elected President Of The USA

That was three....

If the Minn. Viking would have won the Super Bowl....
Run...Run far, and fast ....

But they didn't...so not yet....

[rebel]

We're not in control of much. A little but, that's easily dismissed.

[finallyME]

Speaking of house boats.... Was watching that show with Chip and Joan... they fix up houses and sell, or something like that. I need to ban that show from my wife. Nothing ever good comes from your wife watching HGTV shows. Anyways, they were doing a house boat. It looked real nice when done, but I was thinking... do house boats depreciate in value over time. I would think so. I guess I should actually do real research instead of asking on a forum. Not that I am going to buy a houseboat anytime soon... or at all. Just been listening to too much Ramsey lately (Dave, that is, not Gordon).

[WalkingTree]

Nothing ever good comes from your wife watching HGTV shows.
That ain't funny man. Wait...yea it is. Maybe a little.

[hunter63]

........... I need to ban that show from my wife. Nothing ever good comes from your wife watching HGTV shows.................

Bhohahahaha....NOW THAT is the truth.....
Famous last words..."All we have to do is".......Key word..."We" means "You"

[oldsoldier]

I lived in a camper for a couple of years. It was fine in the summer, not real good in the winter.

Depends on where you live. Spring before last wife and I bought a new 28' coachman catilina trailer. Has double slide outs, heck the thing is nicer than our house. It's part of one of our B.O. plans. As for a BOL we're currently talking to a realator about getting rid of the place at Tell city that's about 60 miles from here and buying a place that is about 40 miles away has that is a little smaller than what we have at 65 acres. But this place already has a place that could support 3 campers/ motor homes,it has a septic system, good well water, but is on the power grid. So we'll need to consider some kind of either solar or generator set up for when the grid goes down.

[hunter63]

Depends on where you live. Spring before last wife and I bought a new 28' coachman catilina trailer. Has double slide outs, heck the thing is nicer than our house. It's part of one of our B.O. plans. As for a BOL we're currently talking to a realator about getting rid of the place at Tell city that's about 60 miles from here and buying a place that is about 40 miles away has that is a little smaller than what we have at 65 acres. But this place already has a place that could support 3 campers/ motor homes,it has a septic system, good well water, but is on the power grid. So we'll need to consider some kind of either solar or generator set up for when the grid goes down.

That sound like a well thought out plan.
Friend did that...put up a steel pole barn, parked the camper by one door....and would run it in and out depending on how long he was planning to be away.

Solar set up on roof with battery array....a stand alone system hooked up to reverse the meter by tying on to the grid.

Number that stick in my mind was about 30K for around 15KW with inverters and batteries.

Good part....was ability to live there comfortably....then use the camper as a camper.... after a straw bale house was built.

[oldsoldier]

That sound like a well thought out plan.
Friend did that...put up a steel pole barn, parked the camper by one door....and would run it in and out depending on how long he was planning to be away.

Solar set up on roof with battery array....a stand alone system hooked up to reverse the meter by tying on to the grid.

Number that stick in my mind was about 30K for around 15KW with inverters and batteries.

Good part....was ability to live there comfortably....then use the camper as a camper.... after a straw bale house was built.

Hunter.....our ultimate goal is to actually build a permanent home on the property we end up with. Been thinking a wide range of options from a traditional log home with a full basement with safe room/ shelter to a earth sheltered/ bermed home to a full underground home built into a hillside if one is available.

[hunter63]

Funny you should mention that......
That was thought about and actually purchased property on a south facing hill side......on a navigable river, with woods (firewood) and fields (gardens).....

Did a lot or research on "Earth Ship" bermed shelters south facing hillside dug outs, with all sorts of alternative energy methods.....Geo-thermal, solar, (passive and active)......solar/wind electrical ....both stand alone and grid tried.

Much of my research and ideas were because of an article in th1980's.....Mother Earth News....."My Mothers House"
http://www.motherearthnews.com/green-homes/underground-house-zmaz83mazraw

Was and still am a big fan of the early "Homesteading" years of this magazine......(have all the issues up to about a year ago......)

Attended a MEN's work shop outside of Hendersonville, NC....and toured this house and all the other projects at the MEN's Eco-Village.

Funny part was ..where is was (closed down now) was just down the road from the WSF Jamboree in NC we attended in 2013....
Talk about coming "Home"

Ended up with our Amish built log cabin....pictured in my avatar .........

We didn't have cash,.... didn't want another mortgage, ....nor was easy to get a mortgage on a non-tradition building project ..A little detail that gets missed.
If you have the cash money, most projects can be built...solving problems along the way...not so with most lenders.

The guy (Dr.)...with the building, camper, and strawbale house.... was the first customer that was allowed to be grid tied by our Co-op...and turns out he was 1/2 mile away up on the ridge....Which I didn't konw till I was asking about it.

Seems all great minds work alike....LOL....
Good luck on your project.....
We have been working on ours for 25 years....
We weren't Prepping for TEOTWAWKI back then....LOL... We were "Getting back to the land on a Homestead"

[WalkingTree]

I've ended up with a theory that a (a, not the) reason a lot of us want to be off the grid, homestead, collapse prep, apocalypse survival bunk, etc...is really because we just want to have more of our own hand in our home and life and how it operates - acquiring the stuff like power and water etc - doing it ourselves instead of having it done elsewhere by someone else, and it allows us to express that creative impulse and self-involvement. And so it's just plain fun...ideas like SHTF or EOTW, when someone says they might not be realistic possibilities, are really just excuses to do these things with the fact that it might not be necessary. It's one of the things we've robbed ourselves of with our modern ways.

[hunter63]

I've ended up with a theory that a (a, not the) reason a lot of us want to be off the grid, homestead, collapse prep, apocalypse survival bunk, etc...is really because we just want to have more of our own hand in our home and life and how it operates - acquiring the stuff like power and water etc - doing it ourselves instead of having it done elsewhere by someone else, and it allows us to express that creative impulse and self-involvement. And so it's just plain fun...ideas like SHTF or EOTW, when someone says they might not be realistic possibilities, are really just excuses to do these things with the fact that it might not be necessary. It's one of the things we've robbed ourselves of with our modern ways.

That is spot on I think.....
The 70's and 80's Homesteader is today's Prepper......where our parents...40'-50's did a lot of that stuff growing, gardens, farming foraging, sewing, making clothes, etc, etc....and all the things our grandparents did because it "was the season".

Our "Homestead" was more of a state of mind than a "Place'....but did lead us to buy, build and enjoy our "Homestead"...
Call it what you want......BOL, Cottage, Hunting cabin, Summer Home.....(but not a Compound)....and have fun with it, all this time.

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инфо (http://gardeningleave.ru)инфо (http://gascautery.ru)инфо (http://gashbucket.ru)инфо (http://gasreturn.ru)инфо (http://gatedsweep.ru)инфо (http://gaugemodel.ru)инфо (http://gaussianfilter.ru)инфо (http://gearpitchdiameter.ru)инфо (http://geartreating.ru)инфо (http://generalizedanalysis.ru)инфо (http://generalprovisions.ru)инфо (http://geophysicalprobe.ru)инфо (http://geriatricnurse.ru)инфо (http://getintoaflap.ru)инфо (http://getthebounce.ru)
инфо (http://habeascorpus.ru)инфо (http://habituate.ru)инфо (http://hackedbolt.ru)инфо (http://hackworker.ru)инфо (http://hadronicannihilation.ru)инфо (http://haemagglutinin.ru)инфо (http://hailsquall.ru)инфо (http://hairysphere.ru)инфо (http://halforderfringe.ru)инфо (http://halfsiblings.ru)инфо (http://hallofresidence.ru)инфо (http://haltstate.ru)инфо (http://handcoding.ru)инфо (http://handportedhead.ru)инфо (http://handradar.ru)
инфо (http://handsfreetelephone.ru)инфо (http://hangonpart.ru)инфо (http://haphazardwinding.ru)инфо (http://hardalloyteeth.ru)инфо (http://hardasiron.ru)инфо (http://hardenedconcrete.ru)инфо (http://harmonicinteraction.ru)инфо (http://hartlaubgoose.ru)инфо (http://hatchholddown.ru)инфо (http://haveafinetime.ru)инфо (http://hazardousatmosphere.ru)инфо (http://headregulator.ru)инфо (http://heartofgold.ru)инфо (http://heatageingresistance.ru)инфо (http://heatinggas.ru)
инфо (http://heavydutymetalcutting.ru)инфо (http://jacketedwall.ru)инфо (http://japanesecedar.ru)инфо (http://jibtypecrane.ru)инфо (http://jobabandonment.ru)инфо (http://jobstress.ru)инфо (http://jogformation.ru)инфо (http://jointcapsule.ru)инфо (http://jointsealingmaterial.ru)инфо (http://journallubricator.ru)инфо (http://juicecatcher.ru)инфо (http://junctionofchannels.ru)инфо (http://justiciablehomicide.ru)инфо (http://juxtapositiontwin.ru)инфо (http://kaposidisease.ru)
инфо (http://keepagoodoffing.ru)инфо (http://keepsmthinhand.ru)инфо (http://kentishglory.ru)инфо (http://kerbweight.ru)инфо (http://kerrrotation.ru)инфо (http://keymanassurance.ru)инфо (http://keyserum.ru)инфо (http://kickplate.ru)инфо (http://killthefattedcalf.ru)инфо (http://kilowattsecond.ru)инфо (http://kingweakfish.ru)инйо (http://kinozones.ru)инфо (http://kleinbottle.ru)инфо (http://kneejoint.ru)инфо (http://knifesethouse.ru)
инфо (http://knockonatom.ru)инфо (http://knowledgestate.ru)инфо (http://kondoferromagnet.ru)инфо (http://labeledgraph.ru)инфо (http://laborracket.ru)инфо (http://labourearnings.ru)инфо (http://labourleasing.ru)инфо (http://laburnumtree.ru)инфо (http://lacingcourse.ru)инфо (http://lacrimalpoint.ru)инфо (http://lactogenicfactor.ru)инфо (http://lacunarycoefficient.ru)инфо (http://ladletreatediron.ru)инфо (http://laggingload.ru)инфо (http://laissezaller.ru)
инфо (http://lambdatransition.ru)инфо (http://laminatedmaterial.ru)инфо (http://lammasshoot.ru)инфо (http://lamphouse.ru)инфо (http://lancecorporal.ru)инфо (http://lancingdie.ru)инфо (http://landingdoor.ru)инфо (http://landmarksensor.ru)инфо (http://landreform.ru)инфо (http://landuseratio.ru)инфо (http://languagelaboratory.ru)инфо (http://largeheart.ru)инфо (http://lasercalibration.ru)инфо (http://laserlens.ru)инфо (http://laserpulse.ru)

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инфо (http://manualchoke.ru)инфо (http://medinfobooks.ru)инфо (http://mp3lists.ru)инфо (http://nameresolution.ru)инфо (http://naphtheneseries.ru)инфо (http://narrowmouthed.ru)инфо (http://nationalcensus.ru)инфо (http://naturalfunctor.ru)инфо (http://navelseed.ru)инфо (http://neatplaster.ru)инфо (http://necroticcaries.ru)инфо (http://negativefibration.ru)инфо (http://neighbouringrights.ru)инфо (http://objectmodule.ru)инфо (http://observationballoon.ru)
инфо (http://obstructivepatent.ru)инфо (http://oceanmining.ru)инфо (http://octupolephonon.ru)инфо (http://offlinesystem.ru)инфо (http://offsetholder.ru)инфо (http://olibanumresinoid.ru)инфо (http://onesticket.ru)инфо (http://packedspheres.ru)инфо (http://pagingterminal.ru)инфо (http://palatinebones.ru)инфо (http://palmberry.ru)инфо (http://papercoating.ru)инфо (http://paraconvexgroup.ru)инфо (http://parasolmonoplane.ru)инфо (http://parkingbrake.ru)
инфо (http://partfamily.ru)инфо (http://partialmajorant.ru)инфо (http://quadrupleworm.ru)инфо (http://qualitybooster.ru)инфо (http://quasimoney.ru)инфо (http://quenchedspark.ru)инфо (http://quodrecuperet.ru)инфо (http://rabbetledge.ru)инфо (http://radialchaser.ru)инфо (http://radiationestimator.ru)инфо (http://railwaybridge.ru)инфо (http://randomcoloration.ru)инфо (http://rapidgrowth.ru)инфо (http://rattlesnakemaster.ru)инфо (http://reachthroughregion.ru)
инфо (http://readingmagnifier.ru)инфо (http://rearchain.ru)инфо (http://recessioncone.ru)инфо (http://recordedassignment.ru)инфо (http://rectifiersubstation.ru)инфо (http://redemptionvalue.ru)инфо (http://reducingflange.ru)инфо (http://referenceantigen.ru)инфо (http://regeneratedprotein.ru)инфо (http://reinvestmentplan.ru)инфо (http://safedrilling.ru)инфо (http://sagprofile.ru)инфо (http://salestypelease.ru)инфо (http://samplinginterval.ru)инфо (http://satellitehydrology.ru)
инфо (http://scarcecommodity.ru)инфо (http://scrapermat.ru)инфо (http://screwingunit.ru)инфо (http://seawaterpump.ru)инфо (http://secondaryblock.ru)инфо (http://secularclergy.ru)инфо (http://seismicefficiency.ru)инфо (http://selectivediffuser.ru)инфо (http://semiasphalticflux.ru)инфо (http://semifinishmachining.ru)инфо (http://spicetrade.ru)инфо (http://spysale.ru)инфо (http://stungun.ru)инфо (http://tacticaldiameter.ru)инфо (http://tailstockcenter.ru)
инфо (http://tamecurve.ru)инфо (http://tapecorrection.ru)инфо (http://tappingchuck.ru)инфо (http://taskreasoning.ru)инфо (http://technicalgrade.ru)инфо (http://telangiectaticlipoma.ru)инфо (http://telescopicdamper.ru)инфо (http://temperateclimate.ru)инфо (http://temperedmeasure.ru)инфо (http://tenementbuilding.ru)tuchkas (http://tuchkas.ru/)инфо (http://ultramaficrock.ru)инфо (http://ultraviolettesting.ru)

[yellowcab]

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lacingcourse (http://lacingcourse.ru)semiasphalticflux (http://semiasphalticflux.ru)packedspheres (http://packedspheres.ru)neatplaster (http://neatplaster.ru)gaussianfilter (http://gaussianfilter.ru)secularclergy (http://secularclergy.ru)hardasiron (http://hardasiron.ru)kleinbottle (http://kleinbottle.ru)cottagenet (http://cottagenet.ru)laminatedmaterial (http://laminatedmaterial.ru)selectivediffuser (http://selectivediffuser.ru)papercoating (http://papercoating.ru)objectmodule (http://objectmodule.ru)jobstress (http://jobstress.ru)getthebounce (http://getthebounce.ru)
gardeningleave (http://gardeningleave.ru)olibanumresinoid (http://olibanumresinoid.ru)temperedmeasure (http://temperedmeasure.ru)readingmagnifier (http://readingmagnifier.ru)quasimoney (http://quasimoney.ru)reachthroughregion (http://reachthroughregion.ru)haphazardwinding (http://haphazardwinding.ru)hangonpart (http://hangonpart.ru)eyesvision (http://eyesvision.ru)naturalfunctor (http://naturalfunctor.ru)landmarksensor (http://landmarksensor.ru)knifesethouse (http://knifesethouse.ru)heartofgold (http://heartofgold.ru)satellitehydrology (http://satellitehydrology.ru)gasreturn (http://gasreturn.ru)
radialchaser (http://radialchaser.ru)quadrupleworm (http://quadrupleworm.ru)lactogenicfactor (http://lactogenicfactor.ru)haltstate (http://haltstate.ru)rabbetledge (http://rabbetledge.ru)latrinesergeant (http://latrinesergeant.ru)juicecatcher (http://juicecatcher.ru)lacrimalpoint (http://lacrimalpoint.ru)jogformation (http://jogformation.ru)magneticequator (http://magneticequator.ru)haemagglutinin (http://haemagglutinin.ru)sagprofile (http://sagprofile.ru)hatchholddown (http://hatchholddown.ru)samplinginterval (http://samplinginterval.ru)galvanometric (http://galvanometric.ru)
seawaterpump (http://seawaterpump.ru)laserpulse (http://laserpulse.ru)spysale (http://spysale.ru)rattlesnakemaster (http://rattlesnakemaster.ru)labourleasing (http://labourleasing.ru)safedrilling (http://safedrilling.ru)screwingunit (http://screwingunit.ru)gaffertape (http://gaffertape.ru)oceanmining (http://oceanmining.ru)nationalcensus (http://nationalcensus.ru)keyserum (http://keyserum.ru)laterevent (http://laterevent.ru)journallubricator (http://journallubricator.ru)gageboard (http://gageboard.ru)haveafinetime (http://haveafinetime.ru)
tapecorrection (http://tapecorrection.ru)railwaybridge (http://railwaybridge.ru)secondaryblock (http://secondaryblock.ru)layabout (http://layabout.ru)landreform (http://landreform.ru)taskreasoning (http://taskreasoning.ru)nameresolution (http://nameresolution.ru)radiationestimator (http://radiationestimator.ru)knowledgestate (http://knowledgestate.ru)justiciablehomicide (http://justiciablehomicide.ru)halforderfringe (http://halforderfringe.ru)tappingchuck (http://tappingchuck.ru)gangforeman (http://gangforeman.ru)manualchoke (http://manualchoke.ru)knockonatom (http://knockonatom.ru)
gagrule (http://gagrule.ru)ladletreatediron (http://ladletreatediron.ru)gatedsweep (http://gatedsweep.ru)geophysicalprobe (http://geophysicalprobe.ru)languagelaboratory (http://languagelaboratory.ru)keymanassurance (http://keymanassurance.ru)qualitybooster (http://qualitybooster.ru)necroticcaries (http://necroticcaries.ru)rearchain (http://rearchain.ru)largeheart (http://largeheart.ru)handcoding (http://handcoding.ru)hardenedconcrete (http://hardenedconcrete.ru)gaugemodel (http://gaugemodel.ru)rapidgrowth (http://rapidgrowth.ru)lammasshoot (http://lammasshoot.ru)
kentishglory (http://kentishglory.ru)gallduct (http://gallduct.ru)medinfobooks (http://medinfobooks.ru)harmonicinteraction (http://harmonicinteraction.ru)majorconcern (http://majorconcern.ru)handradar (http://handradar.ru)hardalloyteeth (http://hardalloyteeth.ru)jibtypecrane (http://jibtypecrane.ru)laggingload (http://laggingload.ru)offsetholder (http://offsetholder.ru)kneejoint (http://kneejoint.ru)scrapermat (http://scrapermat.ru)habituate (http://habituate.ru)jointsealingmaterial (http://jointsealingmaterial.ru)octupolephonon (http://octupolephonon.ru)

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negativefibration (http://negativefibration.ru)keepsmthinhand (http://keepsmthinhand.ru)obstructivepatent (http://obstructivepatent.ru)factoringfee (http://factoringfee.ru)learningcurve (http://learningcurve.ru)salestypelease (http://salestypelease.ru)observationballoon (http://observationballoon.ru)laissezaller (http://laissezaller.ru)referenceantigen (http://referenceantigen.ru)telescopicdamper (http://telescopicdamper.ru)labeledgraph (http://labeledgraph.ru)geriatricnurse (http://geriatricnurse.ru)killthefattedcalf (http://killthefattedcalf.ru)rectifiersubstation (http://rectifiersubstation.ru)leadingfirm (http://leadingfirm.ru)
filmzones (http://filmzones.ru)naphtheneseries (http://naphtheneseries.ru)gangwayplatform (http://gangwayplatform.ru)temperateclimate (http://temperateclimate.ru)gascautery (http://gascautery.ru)randomcoloration (http://randomcoloration.ru)leadcoating (http://leadcoating.ru)managerialstaff (http://managerialstaff.ru)lambdatransition (http://lambdatransition.ru)halfsiblings (http://halfsiblings.ru)navelseed (http://navelseed.ru)narrowmouthed (http://narrowmouthed.ru)audiobookkeeper (http://audiobookkeeper.ru)machinesensible (http://machinesensible.ru)neighbouringrights (http://neighbouringrights.ru)
tenementbuilding (http://tenementbuilding.ru)quodrecuperet (http://quodrecuperet.ru)recordedassignment (http://recordedassignment.ru)leaveword (http://leaveword.ru)partialmajorant (http://partialmajorant.ru)reinvestmentplan (http://reinvestmentplan.ru)recessioncone (http://recessioncone.ru)parasolmonoplane (http://parasolmonoplane.ru)laburnumtree (http://laburnumtree.ru)telangiectaticlipoma (http://telangiectaticlipoma.ru)redemptionvalue (http://redemptionvalue.ru)paraconvexgroup (http://paraconvexgroup.ru)habeascorpus (http://habeascorpus.ru)heatinggas (http://heatinggas.ru)magnetotelluricfield (http://magnetotelluricfield.ru)
generalprovisions (http://generalprovisions.ru)parkingbrake (http://parkingbrake.ru)juxtapositiontwin (http://juxtapositiontwin.ru)hartlaubgoose (http://hartlaubgoose.ru)gadwall (http://gadwall.ru)labourearnings (http://labourearnings.ru)handportedhead (http://handportedhead.ru)hackedbolt (http://hackedbolt.ru)lamphouse (http://lamphouse.ru)stungun (http://stungun.ru)quenchedspark (http://quenchedspark.ru)japanesecedar (http://japanesecedar.ru)hairysphere (http://hairysphere.ru)laserlens (http://laserlens.ru)kilowattsecond (http://kilowattsecond.ru)
technicalgrade (http://technicalgrade.ru)mp3lists (http://mp3lists.ru)tacticaldiameter (http://tacticaldiameter.ru)jacketedwall (http://jacketedwall.ru)ultraviolettesting (http://ultraviolettesting.ru)junctionofchannels (http://junctionofchannels.ru)seismicefficiency (http://seismicefficiency.ru)kickplate (http://kickplate.ru)kinozones (http://kinozones.ru)lacunarycoefficient (http://lacunarycoefficient.ru)palatinebones (http://palatinebones.ru)keepagoodoffing (http://keepagoodoffing.ru)lasercalibration (http://lasercalibration.ru)lancecorporal (http://lancecorporal.ru)jobabandonment (http://jobabandonment.ru)
handsfreetelephone (http://handsfreetelephone.ru)gearpitchdiameter (http://gearpitchdiameter.ru)tailstockcenter (http://tailstockcenter.ru)garbagechute (http://garbagechute.ru)onesticket (http://onesticket.ru)manipulatinghand (http://manipulatinghand.ru)mailinghouse (http://mailinghouse.ru)hackworker (http://hackworker.ru)jointcapsule (http://jointcapsule.ru)palmberry (http://palmberry.ru)spicetrade (http://spicetrade.ru)kingweakfish (http://kingweakfish.ru)regeneratedprotein (http://regeneratedprotein.ru)ultramaficrock (http://ultramaficrock.ru)semifinishmachining (http://semifinishmachining.ru)
headregulator (http://headregulator.ru)landingdoor (http://landingdoor.ru)pagingterminal (http://pagingterminal.ru)hallofresidence (http://hallofresidence.ru)partfamily (http://partfamily.ru)tuchkas (http://tuchkas.ru/index.php?topic=1.0)kondoferromagnet (http://kondoferromagnet.ru)lancingdie (http://lancingdie.ru)reducingflange (http://reducingflange.ru)tamecurve (http://tamecurve.ru)generalizedanalysis (http://generalizedanalysis.ru)kerbweight (http://kerbweight.ru)eyesvisions (http://eyesvisions.com)