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Sarge47
12-08-2012, 05:58 PM
I watched the documentary on Chris McCandless, aka, Alex Supertramp, last night on "Animal Planet." They went on to say that his story has inspired millions, and that angers me. Chris McCandless was not thinking clearly when he went out into Alaska. We can learn why he and failed at by carefully analyzing his mistakes.

1st, he failed to follow what every Boy Scout is taught from Tenderfoot on up, and that is to "Be Prepared!" That's not just for the Boy Scouts, the Military in many countries, including the US teach that as well. If Chris/Alex had not given his map away to the kind fellow that gave him a ride to the Stampede Trail, or familiarized himself with all of the features and terrain along that river that sent him back to the bus, he could have gotten out. Up river or down there was a way out, but C.M. deliberately decided to stay ignorant, following his romantic notion of just going off into the unknown Alaskan wilderness to live off the land all alone. In one direction the river divided into many, Easily fordable, creeks. In the other there was a cable that stretched across the river with a basket attached to transport hunters across the raging waters or ice.

2nd, like many we get on here, he thought he could live off of the land by killing, cleaning, and preserving wild game. Again, his ignorance was his downfall. If he had taken the time to learn how to properly preserve wild game, that Moose he'd shot, with a .22 BTW, would have provided meat for a year. He didn't know how to make jerky or how to properly smoke the carcass, so the meat got maggots and was ruined and had to be thrown out.

3rd, also like some we get on here, he thought he could live for a long time eating the wild, edible, plants. Again ignorance was his downfall! Plants in small amounts do not have the necessary amount of daily calories needed to sustain life. Like the Survival expert on the program pointed out, he would have needed tons of the stuff, and eaten so much that he would have been gorging himself non-stop. It was also pointed out that he would have needed to eat 25 Red Squirrels a day just to get the necessary amount of calories that his body required.

4th, he thought he could succeed at this due to the fact that he'd survived other dangerous adventures. This was a false reality. Chance and circumstance helped get him through the other adventures, not him and him alone. A "romantic notion" is not the starting flag for an adventure, but merely the 1st step for proper preparation.

5th, he was alone. A fact that he later discovered was a mistake. Loneliness and boredom are two of the biggest killers in the field of survival. To prepare for his role in "Castaway," Tom Hanks learned this in the two-week desert island survival course he was required to take before he could begin filming. That's why he had the soccer ball in the film! It was written in to show that we all have to have somebody to talk to.

So what do we learn from all of this? The clinical cause of death that was given was starvation and that's very true. But the overall cause of death was that Chris was "not prepared!" In my opinion, others should NOT be encouraged by his actions and life, but discouraged. He should NOT be held up as a hero, but rather be a candidate for the Darwin Award! In all things, "Be Prepared!" :cool2:

WolfVanZandt
12-08-2012, 06:12 PM
O.o

Oh, him. I didn't recognize the name. I agree heartily with Sarge47. The people modern people choose as role models astound me. The other "shining example" for modern environmentalists is Timothy Treadwell.

I'm not overjoyed that these people sacrifice themselves to .... what? But that others might be "inspired" to do the same bothers me. I like people to live and be happy even if I don't generally like people.

ElevenBravo
12-08-2012, 06:40 PM
"... and decrease the surplus population..." Scrouge

Well, let them flock to AK, more preps for me on the shelves.

Power Giant
12-08-2012, 08:34 PM
He got cocky in the lower 48. Alaska gave him a reality check.

Power Giant
12-08-2012, 08:46 PM
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An aquaintance of mine from the offroading community drove his Dodge pickup to Chris' bus and camped for a few days, then drove home. No drama.

jfeatherjohn
12-08-2012, 09:51 PM
Very well said, Sarge.

dutch hermit
12-09-2012, 02:54 AM
In my point of view the only inspiration I got from the movie was how Not to live in the wilderness.
If someone wishes to live in the wild.. fine.. but first learn all the necessary skills for a few years and learn and practice them on a daily basis.
With Chris I got the idea that it was a spontanious plan and he was rushing things.

ElevenBravo
12-09-2012, 10:12 AM
I love his enthusiasm, but his deployment was a little off the mark.

Sparky93
12-09-2012, 12:06 PM
Wilson, one of the saddest deaths in a movie...

hunter63
12-09-2012, 12:57 PM
It's too bad that his failure becomes the success of this story.

I'm thinking that had he become successful, we...( or the world) wouldn't have given it any thought....or ink.

This most likely has been played out one way or another since the beginning of time...Young man/woman leaves the nest to seek his/her fortune....Only becoming news worthy if very, very successful, or a horrid failure.

Sarge47
12-09-2012, 01:46 PM
Ignorance is cured by education & knowledge. Deliberately ignoring the cure is stupid, it can get you killed...oh...uh...well...:ohmy:

postman
12-12-2012, 01:37 PM
Just read a similar story about a 28 year old man who's gone missing in the Temagami area of Ontario. His name is Daniel Trask and from what I gather from the article he's been missing for about a year. It looks like he did gain knowledge of the area and spent some time honing his survival skills, then he just vanished. His car was found at a campground, and some of his clothing was found on the shore of a remote lake , but other than that no other clues have been found. There have been numerous searches of the area by both OPP and others. Seems he was tired of people and society and wanted to get away from it all, possibly he hasn't been found because he doesn't want to be.

le Metis
12-14-2012, 12:18 PM
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dutch hermit
12-15-2012, 08:25 AM
Nice movie, is this based on a treu story?

Sarge47
12-15-2012, 01:43 PM
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Great movie, Barry Pepper gets two thumbs up. The only part I disliked is when the girl made him bury the resources he'd found at the other crash site. :thumbup1:

jfeatherjohn
12-15-2012, 07:12 PM
Wilson, one of the saddest deaths in a movie...

Not fair...I teared up.

find.dan
02-05-2013, 02:12 PM
Hi postman, appreciate you sharing about our missing son. He is believed to be in the Temagami backcountry, winter clothing was found on NE arm of Diamond Lake, into the bush. He loved this area and was comfortable in the bush. The fact that his clothing was found, but nothing further is disturbing. The OPP have had numerous land, water and air searching underway, they will come back in if something further is found. We await an early iceout to resume our searching.

If forum members want more details, information and leads are being tracked on www.ottertooth.com 8869

Anyone in this area should be on the lookout, thanks.

crashdive123
02-05-2013, 03:31 PM
Hi postman, appreciate you sharing about our missing son. He is believed to be in the Temagami backcountry, winter clothing was found on NE arm of Diamond Lake, into the bush. He loved this area and was comfortable in the bush. The fact that his clothing was found, but nothing further is disturbing. The OPP have had numerous land, water and air searching underway, they will come back in if something further is found. We await an early iceout to resume our searching.

If forum members want more details, information and leads are being tracked on www.ottertooth.com 8869

Anyone in this area should be on the lookout, thanks.

We all wish the searchers and you success in finding your son.

sticker
02-05-2013, 04:19 PM
I remember seeing this movie yrs ago and thinking what a douche the guy was.

sticker
02-05-2013, 05:40 PM
Just read on one of their sites that ppl have died making the trek to his old bus :chair: guess they learned from him alright

ubercrow
02-05-2013, 06:26 PM
I saw the movie and read the book. I give him some respect for trying, I meet so many people that read survival books and claim to have all these skills from armchairs this guy actually went out and tried.

I think his biggest mistake was he had no backup plain or escape he just went head first and had no way out when he needed it. He downed a moose which would have been months of food but it all went to waste because he did not have the skills to process it properly.

welderguy
02-05-2013, 07:04 PM
Ever since August 1992, This subject has come up. It was a sad lose, an avoidable lose, And you would think people would learn from his failure. But they don,t . Common sense would of served him well, and common sense seems to be in limited supply now days.

postman
02-07-2013, 02:13 AM
[QUOTE=find.dan;382791]Hi postman, appreciate you sharing about our missing son. He is believed to be in the Temagami backcountry, winter clothing was found on NE arm of Diamond Lake, into the bush. He loved this area and was comfortable in the bush. The fact that his clothing was found, but nothing further is disturbing. The OPP have had numerous land, water and air searching underway, they will come back in if something further is found. We await an early iceout to resume our searching.

If forum members want more details, information and leads are being tracked on www.ottertooth.com 8869

Anyone in this area should be on the lookout, thanks.[/

I wish you all the best in your search for Daniel. I have been in the Temagami area in the past, but I'm really not all that familiar with it. Actually the area I am more familiar with is closer to Marten River, I've been in that area moose and grouse hunting numerous times. I actually don't live too far from you folks, I'm in Milton. When you go up on your searches are they weekend excursions, or do you go up for extended periods? Time permitting I'd be happy to help out in any way I could.

RandyRhoads
02-07-2013, 02:56 AM
Maybe he didn't want to come out alive. Maybe it's what how he wanted to live however short of a time that was. You don't know...........

I don't understand why he constantly gets brought up for being some sort of dip ****..... It's been pointed out several times he may have had a massive PD and other issues....

PineMartyn
02-07-2013, 10:45 AM
Maybe he didn't want to come out alive. Maybe it's what how he wanted to live however short of a time that was. You don't know...........


There is every reason to believe that Chris McCandless wanted to live and that he wanted to escape his predicament.

First, he kept a journal of his activities, and at no point in it did he write anything to suggest that he wanted or expected to die out there in Alaska. It's certainly true to say that he was resigned to the fact that he could die out there, but nothing to suggest he sought to die. The record of his actions in his journal reveals that he strove hard to find enough food. Sadly, he was unable to forage or hunt enough to prevent slow starvation until he was too weak to forage and hunt, much less hike out. Also, he tried on a few occasions to get out of his predicament, but was not able to get back across the fast-moving Teklanika River, which he'd crossed on the way in when water levels were much lower. Lastly, toward the end of his ordeal, while he was still mobile, he posted a note (click on the image below for a larger view) on the outside of the bus he was living in. The note clearly reveals that he was not suicidal or hoping to die in the wilderness and was, in fact, desperately hoping to be rescued.

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Notice how, in the note, he used his real name, abandoning his pseudonym of 'Alexander Supertramp'.

Hope this helps,
- Martin

PineMartyn
02-07-2013, 11:21 AM
It's too bad that his failure becomes the success of this story.

I'm thinking that had he become successful, we...( or the world) wouldn't have given it any thought....or ink.

This most likely has been played out one way or another since the beginning of time...Young man/woman leaves the nest to seek his/her fortune....Only becoming news worthy if very, very successful, or a horrid failure.

I think you're correct that the fact that he died is a big ingredient in people's fascination with the Chris McCandless (aka Alexander Supertramp), but the larger reason is that he died while on a kind of personal quest of self-discovery and did so after repudiating a conventional life of ease and financial comfort and the trappings of modern life. This, more than anything else, I think, is what has sparked an interest and fascination in him and his death.

Another big ingredient is that author Jon Krakauer (author of Into The Wild) played, and continues to play, fast and loose with a number of facts and suppressed a few facts, to exaggerate the extent of McCandless' repudiation of modern life and to overstate his independence. For instance, McCandless, in fact, never burned his money before heading off. He did not destroy his ID. He did not go to where he was going without a map. All these things were found in an inner zippered pocket of his backpack (it contained a map of his area and his wallet full of legal ID and three one hundred dollar bills). These facts might not have been known at the time Krakauer wrote his first article about McCandless, and possibly not known at the time he wrote his book, Into the Wild, but these facts had come to surface by the time Sean Penn made his film version of Into The Wild. Nevertheless, Krakauer, in talks and interviews, continues to maintain the fiction that McCandless brought no map, money, or ID with him as part of a complete repudiation of his former life.

Similarly, the theory that McCandless died by eating a wild plant which had a poisonous mold on it was completely fanciful and not based on any fact. It was a wild speculation concocted by Krakauer himself, based on looking at a blurry photograph of some bagged plant material that McCandless had with him in his bus when he died. In the Sean Penn film version, the story is altered to make it seem like McCandless ate a poisonous plant, but this too is pure invention. To all evidence, he simply starved to death from not being able to find enough food. We know this by looking at his photos (in which his steady weight loss is apparent) and by reading his own careful daily record of what and how much he ate. He simply was not consuming enough calories. Anyone would starve eating as little as he did.

So, this pattern of misrepresentation of the facts about his death all creates the sense that McCandless was doing fine, but merely got unlucky. I've even heard admirers say that he'd have survived if he'd not had the misfortune of eating the wrong thing. This makes his death seem less tragically predictable, even poignant and heroic, by understating the fact that he was slowly starving to death as a direct result that he was not knowledgeable enough, skilled enough, or equipped enough, to undertake what he did.

Hope this helps,
- Martin

japs8944
02-19-2013, 07:38 PM
The movie has become one of my favorite movies because of the approach it took to the wild, being that it is a beautiful thing to live a simpler life.

I view Alexander as a personal hero of mine because he was willing to make the choice to leave everything and live the simpler life. He went down the "path less traveled" and even though he failed he was not afraid to try.

Power Giant
02-21-2013, 04:23 PM
The movie has become one of my favorite movies because of the approach it took to the wild, being that it is a beautiful thing to live a simpler life.

I view Alexander as a personal hero of mine because he was willing to make the choice to leave everything and live the simpler life. He went down the "path less traveled" and even though he failed he was not afraid to try.


I admire his adventurousness (?) but not his methods. He had an arrogant streak about him when it came to the wilderness. His lower 48 escapades left him with a almost cocky attitude. That doesn't cut it in Alaska. I much prefer Dick Pronneke's story, and Dick's story has a happy ending.

Sarge47
02-26-2013, 04:42 PM
In his book: "Will To Live, dispatches from the edge of survival," Les Stroud details & analyzes several true survival stories, some that did not result in success. In chapter 7 he looks at the tragedy of Chris and has these things to say, which will sound very familiar:

"And while it's difficult to find fault with a young idealist seeking an existential experience through wilderness living, the fact is that McCandless was woefully unprepared for what faced him when he set off into the Alaskan bush in April 1992. As soon as he took his 1st step on that untamed soil, he was writing the prologue to his own death sentence, but Chris McCandless didn't have to die."

Oft times we get the romantic newbies on here that are completely fed up with today's society and want to disappear into the wilderness, leaving it all behind and never wanting to deal with society again. The truth is that's an impossible dream. One of Chris' greatest heroes was the writer, Henry David Thoreau, who Les writes about:

"Compare McCandless' experience to someone like Henry David Thoreau, who was clearly one of Chris' heroes. Thoreau is heralded as one of the great voices of simple wilderness living, and yet he walked to town regularly! If anything, Thoreau proved that you don't have to live life like an ascetic to have the pure experience that Chris sought. In fact, I would argue that Thoreau's approach enhanced the experience." The fact is that anyone intending to leave society will find it impossible to leave it completely. Les also describes incidents that happened to him and his wife when they lived off of the grid, and how they had to depend on other people, proving that Chris was a romantic idealist, rather than a true survivor.

Les goes into a lot more detail, describing the lack of knowledge and experience that Chris needed in order to survive Alaska. His pack contained mostly books by Thoreau, L'Amour, Crichton, and others. The only outdoor book that he carried was a plant identification book. This was to help him live off of wild edibles, which weren't there for him to survive on.

There is a lot more in this chapter and it's really fascinating I'll not plagiarize Les' book by repeating it all here, but he does go on to list what should be in a pack for those wishing to go out into the Alaskan bush. He also states that while the true cause of Chris' death is debated, the real cause of his death was Chris himself. This is not intended to be a book review, but today all bus routes were canceled due to another winter blizzard, and it's a fine book to be reading when snowed in. Lot's of good info, so if you want another book to add to your outdoor library you could do much worse than this one.......:detective:

endurance
02-26-2013, 07:25 PM
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"Compare McCandless' experience to someone like Henry David Thoreau, who was clearly one of Chris' heroes. Thoreau is heralded as one of the great voices of simple wilderness living, and yet he walked to town regularly! If anything, Thoreau proved that you don't have to live life like an ascetic to have the pure experience that Chris sought. In fact, I would argue that Thoreau's approach enhanced the experience." The fact is that anyone intending to leave society will find it impossible to leave it completely. Les also describes incidents that happened to him and his wife when they lived off of the grid, and how they had to depend on other people, proving that Chris was a romantic idealist, rather than a true survivor.
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I had a lot in common with Chris when I was 19-22. I was such a big fan of HDT that I talked a college professor into putting on an entire class just on his book, Walden. And you're exactly right. Thoreau lived less than a half-hour's walk from town, had frequent visitors to his cabin in the summer, and wanted the psychological distance from society far more than he wanted the physical distance from society. While Thoreau did venture to the wilderness of Maine, most of his work relates to his time as an observer while at Walden Pond or nearby Concorde.

I don't think we should feel bad for Chris, at least not from the perspective of my other favorite outdoors writer, Edward Abbey.

"We need wilderness because we are wild animals. Every man needs a place where he can go to go crazy in peace. Every Boy Scout deserves a forest to get lost, miserable, and starving in. Even the maddest murderer of the sweetest wife should get a chance for a run to the sanctuary of the hills. If only for the sport of it. For the terror, freedom, and delirium. Because we need brutality and raw adventure, because men and women first learned to love in, under, and all around trees, because we need for every pair of feet and legs about ten leagues of naked nature, crags to leap from, mountains to measure by, deserts to finally die in when the heart fails."

Life can be rapturous even without being long. While there's no doubt he wasn't a true survivor, he didn't pick the worst way in the world to die. I'd leave that to the folks on the ICU with tubes coming out every orifice, unable to speak, rotting in a body that is only alive because of vasoconstrictors and a ventilator. No, to me, Chris did alright.

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03-20-2026, 07:47 AM
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