Overtraining?

[kyratshooter]

I see recomendations for multi-K rounds for training purposes, gurus recommending hundreds of rounds weekly to maintain musclememory bla..bla..

But the military rerquires only 40 rounds anually for combat ready status and during qualification do not provide unlimited ammo during practice.

My state police certification requirement is only 20 rounds anually.

I watched Winnie pick up an unfamilar rifle and pour fire into a 100 yard target after down time of 27 years.

There have been times when I could not shoot for months on end and withing a few rounds I was back to my pitiful norm.

Do many people overtrain?

Is number of rounds weekly just bragging rights?

[karatediver]

If you can afford it train as much as you can. The average soldier shoots a lot less than say a soldier in Delta. It comes down to money. Ideally it would be nice to get to the point where shooting becomes instinctual. Where you know each time where the bullet is going to hit based on experience and you can estimate ranges instantly on all sorts of different terrain types. There is no such thing as overtraining unless it puts you in the poor house, causes you to neglect your job or family, or causes your spouse to leave you because you spend all your free time at the range.

[BENESSE]

Other than spending money, I don't see any disadvantages to overtraining. To me it's akin to being overly prepared for an exam. Being overly prepared is something I never worried about.

[going]

Well, it's quite possible to be training incorrectly, and thus, building more bad habits. For instance, many place much too much emphasis on pistol range/accuracy for defensive purposes, when the reality is, when someone is shooting at you, no matter who you are, you are going to completely miss the man with about half of your shots, at a mere 7 yds. The less you practice shooting as fast as you can, the less ability to hit you will have when the "pucker factor" of combat makes you fire that fast.

[BENESSE]

Well, it's quite possible to be training incorrectly, and thus, building more bad habits. For instance, many place much too much emphasis on pistol range/accuracy for defensive purposes, when the reality is, when someone is shooting at you, no matter who you are, you are going to completely miss the man with about half of your shots, at a mere 7 yds. The less you practice shooting as fast as you can, the less ability to hit you will have when the "pucker factor" of combat makes you fire that fast.

That sounds suspiciously like something "hepit" another member posted almost word for word.
I'll just sit back and let it play out.

p.s. hepit was banned!

[natertot]

I run 50 a month on pistol. I have fun with trap on the shotty a few times a month as well. (I thought I would throw "shotty" in there just to mess with y'all!) At that rate, I practice 12 times more than the police do a year and because I have been police trained, I haver better skills than the thug who watched TV for his education.

Over training, no such thing. Under training, well, do what you have to do to maintain. It is different for each person.

[crashdive123]

That sounds suspiciously like something "hepit" another member posted almost word for word.
I'll just sit back and let it play out.

p.s. hepit was banned!

Very good catch B. ......going......going.....gone.

[Winter]

The fundamentals of marksmanship can be maintained with a Daisy Red Ryder. Weapons familiarity is important if you have a complicated firearm.

Forty rounds a yr is not how often combat arm's shoot. You'd be in a pretty ate up pouge unit if that's all you shoot. That 40 rds is for your yearly, or bianually if in combat arms, rifle qualification.

If I could afford it, I'd shoot every day probably.

I believe it is important to change how you shoot. One trip shoot groups at known ranges and focus on the fundamentals, and the next trip set balloons at unknown ranges. Just don't blow up too many balloons too fast. I almost passed out once.

[Echo2]

There is a reason that I bought a M&P 15-22....and a TS Glock 17 22LR conversion.

I don't think you can train too much....I wish I could train more than I do now.

Let's face it...ammo is expensive....I have purchased the tools to train at a more cost effective level.

I did the math....the $800 I spent on the 22LR models I run for practice....have paid for themselves 3x over.

[Winter]

I can see the gain in being more familiar with the AR weapon system from using the .22. I can't see that it trains you to shoot active .223 shooting scenarios.

[Echo2]

The 2 weapons shoulder the same....the controls are the same.....sight picture is the same. The muscle memory will transfer.

I've noticed about a 10% to 15% decrease in 5.56mm active shooting group sizes....since I began using these 22LRs to train.

The volume of rounds shot on range days has increase by 100% to !50%.

The Glock conversion I find to not be as valuable....but still is a good tool. The reason I feel this way is the kick is a bit to light....I can stay on target a bit too easily. It is very good for drawing drills and snap shots. First shot with the 9mm has improved...but follow ups haven't really changed. I wish I could shoot the 9mm rapidly as well as I do the 22LR...:)

[Winter]

Good feedback. I haven't purchased a 22lr upper, but you gave me food for thought.

[roar-k]

I agree with a training .22 in the model that you will go to. I dry fire as well.

[1stimestar]

I think some people do not trust their skills so yes, "need" more practice. If you THINK you need more practice, then you do. Does everyone need as much practice as you mentioned? Of course not. There's a lot to be said for muscle memory but there is more to be said for actually knowing the mechanics of how to get the shot to go where you want.

[ElevenBravo]

I feel for me, at minimum, 100 rounds a month for rifle & 100 for pistol would be beneficial. Which I would do if not for the lack of time & money.

[Echo2]

You never forget how to ride a bike.....but if you don't do it regularly.....you will forget the little tricks....

If you ever need it...a gun to defend that is.....tunnel vision will set in.....and all those fine motor skills will go right out the window.

There have been cases where a seasoned police officer killed or injured because they couldn't get the gun to shoot....the safeties tripped them up when their adrenal glands went into overdrive.

Muscle memory is very important.

[Rick]

What is everyone training for?

[crashdive123]

I'm training to guard the new F.A.R.T. boat if Mohammad ever gets it to us. You remember what happened to the last one right? Let's just say that we won't have a repeat of that.....will we Pal?

[BENESSE]

What is everyone training for?

Oh, nothin'. :innocent: Just playin' around.

[Echo2]

Oh, nothin'. :innocent: Just playin' around.

This...:)

When seconds count....the police are just minutes away.

[BENESSE]

That, too.

[Echo2]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1FLXLXCdgo&feature=related

[Echo2]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR7phWKI5OY&feature=related

[ClayPick]

This...:)

When seconds count....the police are just minutes away.

I like that one.

[Echo2]

Go to youtube and type in Shooting during home invasion....see what come up.

[2dumb2kwit]

Well, y'all know that I'm not real smart, but I have a thought, about this. After thinking about this, I think that rather than shooting 1,000 rounds a week, to train, you would be better trained if you would scare the sh!t out of yourself, every now and then, and try to function with a bucket of adrenaline rushing through your veins. If you can get used to keeping a level head, and functioning at a fair capacity in an "oh chit" situation, you will be far ahead of most people in a shooting situation, a driving situation, a someone is hurt situation, etc, etc.

Some of the people here can tell you how they react in a "stressful" situation. Most people have no idea how they will react. Now I'm not saying that anyone should not practice shooting skills....I'm just saying that the ability to keep a level head is a BIG deal. Why not work on that?

[hunter63]

I guess it's what you are comfortable with.......
Lots of guys that shoot regularly in leagues, different shoots, trap, skeet, all sorts of fun....it's fun but I don't know if it's considered "training".
Seem to get into a routine at the range, gun does here, full mags, there empties in here, 50 yds, 100 tds etc......Doesn't have anything to do with real life.

As I have never shot at anything other than targets and game, I can't/won't speak to any other kind of training.....just hunting, animals.

BIL had a bad habit of missing while hunting....so practiced at the range, had a bi-pod, range finder, kept messing with the scope, and complained about sight picture...and all sorts of technical stuff.......but shot well 'at the range"

So now you are out in the woods, "stuff" is in your way, it's cold, you are cold, the deer is behind you, you are wearing a lot heavier clothes, so you rifle doesn't shoulder "properly", deer is running.....and you miss?.....Fancy that.

We had the two shot drill......stand there with your rifle/handhun... carried how you would carry it, or hold it.....and walk toward the target, away from the target, target to the right, or left......some one would say "pull" and your job was to find the target, fire, the work what ever kind of action you have a fire again......Object was to hit a paper plate at all sorts of ranges and positions.

I consider this practice......

Some one tells me they shoot 1000 rds a week, and I just nod and smile........your pocket book....but I don't see how burning 1000 rds a week at the same target and range make you any better of a shooter.

You are not gonna do it with a 7 mag, or even a 30-30.....your arm will fall off....maybe that's why the .357 carbines are so popular........

I tend to do my shooting in batches....try out something new, or work on a load, or scope....and when it's "done" and I'm happy with it, I put it away.

I do stand on my porch and rip off a loaded .22 pistol at 2 liter plastic bottles, rolling in the field..... evey once in a while....fun.

[BENESSE]

Well, y'all know that I'm not real smart, but I have a thought, about this. After thinking about this, I think that rather than shooting 1,000 rounds a week, to train, you would be better trained if you would scare the sh!t out of yourself, every now and then, and try to function with a bucket of adrenaline rushing through your veins. If you can get used to keeping a level head, and functioning at a fair capacity in an "oh chit" situation, you will be far ahead of most people in a shooting situation, a driving situation, a someone is hurt situation, etc, etc.

Some of the people here can tell you how they react in a "stressful" situation. Most people have no idea how they will react. Now I'm not saying that anyone should not practice shooting skills....I'm just saying that the ability to keep a level head is a BIG deal. Why not work on that?

Well...I'd like to believe that but I'm not so sure...
I have a super high stress job and live in one of the most stressful cities in the US. Day in, day out, it feels as though I'm on speed but I've learned to cope and thrive. :) IMO that's entirely different from finding yourself in a crime situation; unless you've been in one (I haven't) there's no telling how you'll react. I can guess, but hope I never find out. Having the skills to evade or physically defend myself gives me an edge I otherwise wouldn't have. Is it enough? Who knows...as in all things, better to have it and not need it....

[SHTFMIKE]

I train as often as i can and as i can afford to.
Usually every 3 weeks to a month. It pays to keep sharp in my opinion.

[Echo2]

I try to get out every other month....sometimes it's more....sometimes it's less.

When we do have a range day...It generally means about 500+ 22LR rounds....and about 100 5.56 and 100 to 150 9mm rds.

When we shoot long range....I might pop off 20+ rds of .308....40 to 60 rds of .223....and a few of what ever we are checking zero on.

The neighbors horses get skidish if we fire up the .50....so we generally let them know in advance to put them in the field below the knoll when we pull it out. But it cost too much to shoot that a lot.

The cost is why I started running 22LRs....other wise it would cost $300+ for a day of fun...:)

[glockcop]

Most people do not train enough with their chosen firearm, be it civilian, military, police, or your average ccw holder. To build repeatable muscle memory you must execute perfect form and technique a minimum of 2000 times. I don't know where that number comes from but through personal experience training officers, I know the number to be alot. I cannot say I can argue with that fugure. Muscle memory does deteriorate to a degree over time so it does in fact need to be maintained. That being said there are folks out there that "train" frequently and expend tons of ammo but do not hold themselves to correct form or technique which is almost useless. There is a big difference between "training" and "blowing up ammo". Doing something "over and over" does not mean you are doing it right or meaningful "over and over" which equates into a lovely waiste of time and ammo. After basic skills are mastered, I think a box of ammo (50 rounds for a pistol) a week is a reasonable amount of ammo to keep skills from deteriorating. But again, DO IT RIGHT.

[Echo2]

Fundamentals....are the key.....indeed.

[jfeatherjohn]

In Phoenix, I shot with the Cactus Combat League every Thursday night, rain or shine. We leased a range within the range facility, and they buipt a large shed to store targets and props for various types of scenarios.
There was an open invitation to show up at a given restaurant; that is where scenarios eere fleshed out.
The magic wasn't in the number of rounds fired, but the circumstances where they were fired. It isn't easy to master "run and fire" or shooting laying on your back.
Targets on motorized wires, coming from different angles can really get your heartrate up.
Sometimes, I only shot 2 boxes of 40 cal; other times 5 or 6.
It was major fun, but confidence was developed that one could engage in a public place without shooting civilians...from cover. :-)
I miss all of it.

[Rick]

Well, y'all know that I'm not real smart

But you are a master at understatement.

[2dumb2kwit]

Well...I'd like to believe that but I'm not so sure...
I have a super high stress job and live in one of the most stressful cities in the US. Day in, day out, it feels as though I'm on speed but I've learned to cope and thrive. :) IMO that's entirely different from finding yourself in a crime situation; unless you've been in one (I haven't) there's no telling how you'll react. I can guess, but hope I never find out. Having the skills to evade or physically defend myself gives me an edge I otherwise wouldn't have. Is it enough? Who knows...as in all things, better to have it and not need it....

I was being fasee.....phesea....a smart arse, when I said "stressful". Just so there is no confusion, lets change "stressful" to "Oh, chit! I could die!!!".

[2dumb2kwit]

But you are a master at understatement. [/COLOR]

Well, I don't like to dress all flashy.........oh, wait....you meant.......ah, nevermind.

[Daniel Nighteyes]

Just so there is no confusion, lets change "stressful" to "Oh, chit! I could die!!!".

Agreed. The only way to "practice" that is to actually put yourself in such a situation. Last time I checked, that was called "self-nominating for a Darwin Award".

Now, as to practice: All I gotta say is, nobody better try nothin' while I'm packin' my two Uberti New Model Army pistolas [10 shots in 10 seconds, no misses], my Uberti '66 Winchester carbine [10 shots in 6 seconds, no misses], or my 12-gauge mule-eared SxS [4 shots in 4 seconds, no misses]. This is 'specially true if they, in any way, resemble steel targets.

:shifty: :lol:

-- Nighteyes

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[Daniel Nighteyes]

BTW, these "skills" transfer perfectly to my home-defense weapon, my Smith & Wesson Model 19-2. As long as I can keep my own "pucker-factor" under control, that is...

[hunter63]

Looks like good shooting to me.....how does one cook up them steel targets.....? LOL

[Echo2]

Build them....

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8166/7388574610_8c200802f6.jpg

[Wildthang]

Sometimes I shoot a fair amount, and sometimes I dont have time. But I have an old Colt Python that i have had since 1980, and have probably shot 1000 boxes of ammo through it to the point that it is just part of me. I can pick up that pistol after 6 months of no shooting and it feels like yesterday that I took it to the range.
I know you are supposed to keep in practice but I have had that gun so long and shot it so much, I do not feel the need to shoot it all the time. Anymore I just shoot for fun because I feel like as long as I have been shooting, I ain't going to get any better at this point. All I know is that I never miss a rabbit or a squirrel and that is good enough for me!

[NightShade]

From experience, I will say practicing different stances and scenarios was more beneficial than repeated rounds down range..... Though, I do find it important to really learn a weapon/loadout at a variety of distances first. Once comfortable with judging how your weapon will perform at any distance consistently, the most benefit comes from changing your shooting scenario in my opinion.

[Daniel Nighteyes]

....how does one cook up them steel targets.....? LOL

Big skillet and lots of Crisco. Helps to have strong teeth, too, 'cause they're kinda tough...

[Daniel Nighteyes]

From experience, I will say practicing different stances and scenarios was more beneficial than repeated rounds down range..... Though, I do find it important to really learn a weapon/loadout at a variety of distances first. Once comfortable with judging how your weapon will perform at any distance consistently, the most benefit comes from changing your shooting scenario in my opinion.

Yup. That's why my favorite cowboy shooting sport is Western 3-Gun. In SASS, once you've got a loaded firearm in your hands you can only move one foot, sorta like the basketball "traveling" thing. In Western 3-Gun you HAVE to move from place to place with loaded firearms in your hands because otherwise you simply will not see/shoot all the targets. The best Western 3-Gun ranges are constructed so that multiple set-ups are possible on any given stage. Therefore, each stage of every match "is like a box of choc'lates: ya never know what you're gonna get."

One of the most challenging stages I ever shot was called "Sweet 16" (recall that I shoot an external-hammer SxS). There were 16 must-knock-down shotgun targets -- 8 on the left and 8 on the right, arranged so that only 1 or 2 targets were visible from any spot -- followed by 10 equally-sneaky rifle targets. I only had twelve shotgun loops on my belt, so I stashed two additional rounds in each of my four vest pockets (total 20). Needed nearly all of of them, too!

This link is actually to a series of short videos...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myrcdLTIVJ8&feature=BFa&list=PLFD8A03442E5F02CB

(These are the people I shoot with, folks! For me, each match is a completely humbling experience.)

Another fast-growing shooting sport in our neck of the woods is called Action Pistol. Events are always associated with Western 3-Gun groups, and are run the day before Western 3-Gun events on the same exact stages. The difference is that all targets are shot ONLY with modern pistols -- 1911 Class, Revolver Class, Limited 10 Class (modern semiautos, with magazine size limited to 10 rounds), Limited Class (similar to above but with more mag capacity allowed, some limited external mods allowed), and Unlimited Class (your basic "space-gun category" where almost-anything-goes).

Another is called X-3 Multi-Gun -- a deadly-serious group of folks competing with modern pistols, rifles and shotguns. I've never shot this 'un because, quite frankly, these guys 'n gals are a bit too serious for my taste. Still, it has been rather informative and a bit entertaining to watch 'em.

Here's a link to my club's website, which includes sections for W3G, SASS, Action Pistol, and a link to X-3 Multi-Gun. There are loads of pics and videos which I think you may enjoy if you find yourself with time on your hands.

http://www.deadwoodboys.org/

And oh yes, these skills do in fact transfer to "the real world" as long as you're careful about which firearms you're transferring 'em to...

-- Nighteyes

[2dumb2kwit]

LOL....I've had friends think I'm crazy because of it, but I have said for a long time......If things ever get bad, I'd rather have an old guy with a revolver and a lever-gun on my side, than a gang-banger with a glock and a AK.

[Daniel Nighteyes]

LOL....I've had friends think I'm crazy because of it, but I have said for a long time......If things ever get bad, I'd rather have an old guy with a revolver and a lever-gun on my side, than a gang-banger with a glock and a AK.

'Specially if said gang-banger shoots that Glock in what has locally become known as the "Compton Grip" (with sincere apologies to any serious shooters from Compton CA) -- pistol hand rotated "sideways" so that the grip is parallel to the ground a la the movies...

Thanks for the left-handed compliment, 2dumb2kwit. Since I'm already a Southpaw, I really appreciate it!!!

I have shot Action Pistol events with my Colt Combat Commander (and a double-handful of mags) and my SIG P226 (3 to 4 mags). For both pistols my mantra was "Sight pictures differ! Sight pictures differ!"

Otherwise my shots would be OVER the targets & into the berm every time.

[crashdive123]

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[2dumb2kwit]

Oh....and don't worry about the "old guy" part.
To me, guys are either "old guys" or "young-uns". Few of us here, are young-uns. LOL

[BENESSE]

Few of us here, are young-uns. LOL

Speak for yoursef granpaw.

[Daniel Nighteyes]

Crashdive123: "HomeBoy Nyte-Sytes" :thumbup: :thumbup:


2dumb2kwit:I wear my gray hair & wrinkles with pride, 'cause I earned each and every one of 'em!

-- Nighteyes

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