308 auto>45-70 for bear defense, any day.

[hepit]

Something like a used, $400 Remington sporter auto, cause milsurp 308 ammo costs no more than the LOADING components for 45-70 rds, and the auto offers twice as fast repeat hits. 100 lb deer often run off with 12 ga slugs thru their chests, which beat the hell out of 45-70 area-momentum, so of course no chest hit can be relied upon to stop charges. Only brain hits are likely to suffice. So the 308's cheap practice and speed of repeat tries makes for a far better deal. It's also better for defense against men and for hunting. it can handle everything that the 45-70 can handle and a lot more that the lever gun is a poor, poor choice for, like 300 yd deer or 1/4 mile sniping.

[randyt]

My buddy carries a sks with a 30 round magazine. He loads it with by alternating rounds of hollow point, soft point and FMJ. I don't know if he has ever had to use it on a griz bear.

[Rick]

So I gotta ask. How many bear have you hit with .308 and how many with 45-70?

[rebel]

I smell a kill approaching.

[canid]

Nothing short of an artillery shell (or a vehicle) to center mass can be considered guaranteed to stop a charging animal that large. It's a simple question of physics.

In such a case, I would be happy to go for 'will probably work', and given the amount of bear hunting and confrontations in this world, there is no shortage of contenders with case histories to back up their claims.

[natertot]

So I gotta ask. How many bear have you hit with .308 and how many with 45-70?

I think I can hear crickets chirping.

[Echo2]

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5162/5264329134_748b561c32_z.jpg

This will stop a bear...

[kyratshooter]

Do they allow you to bring those to the zoo?

That is about as close as I will get, and about as much interest as I have, in Griz killing.

But there was that guy in Zaynesville? The nut job with the private zoo.

There was the question about the number of griz killed with each weapon and I personally wonder how many shotgun slugs have been stolen from this person by runaway deer.

I will leave specualtion over bear guns to our friends on the forum that live in bear country and face them in other than a fantacy world. As far as I am concerned Sourdough can carry any damn thing he wants to. He's shot enough of them to make the call, I have not.

[Winter]

.45-70 will kill anything on the planet.

A semi-auto .45-70? I'd like to see that.

I've seen .45-70 gatling guns but wouldn't carry one far unless I'd stolen it.


ETA- I really like my guide gun in .45-70. Handy as hell, I don't even wear a pistol much in the woods with that rifle.

If you think a big bore lever gun ain't suited for a combat rifle, look up Jerry "MadDog" Shriver (MOH, KIA) That Ol'Boy carried a .444 Marlin in Vietnam as I recall.

[Wildthang]

Somebody needs to shoot a bear to test this theory:smartass:

[Rick]

Hmmm. No answer on my question. He must have missed this thread when he logged on this morning.

[ElevenBravo]

Somebody needs to shoot a bear to test this theory:smartass:
And have video proof, else it never happened! :nod:

[NightShade]

100 lb deer often run off with 12 ga slugs thru their chests, which beat the hell out of 45-70 area-momentum, so of course no chest hit can be relied upon to stop charges.

First, I thought you were talking about bears....
Second, Really??!???!?? Gee, chests shots have always dropped deer for me! Of course, I never shot a deer that was only 100 lbs... Maybe the little guys are tougher. [shrugs]

[Rick]

"Chest shots are really a third choice. It's really all about shot placement...hang on... What do you want MA?!"
"Is someone down there with you?"
"No there's no one down here with me. I'm on the internet"
"Careful you don't catch a virus."
"(Jeese) All right, ma!....I'm back....It's all about shot placement."

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[hepit]

one with 308. Plenty of other critters with same, with 12 ga slugs. 45-70 is quite inferior to 12 ga, really, same velocity and a LOT less bullet diameter. this place's posting method is all screwed up.

[Rick]

Really? Works okay for me. What kind of problem are you having?

[crashdive123]

Jeez - I go away for a couple of days and you guys have started a troll petting zoo.

[Pal334]

sighing, not again:sweatingbullets: another expert

[Winter]

. 45-70 is quite inferior to 12 ga, .


Well, that will just be your little secret.

[kyratshooter]

this place's posting method is all screwed up.

Works fine or most of us and has for quite some time. In fact this is the standard format for most outdoor forums once you leave the yuppie backpackers on the well marked trail.

This is the way they do it when you leave facebook.

[crashdive123]

....or the video arcade at the local mall.

[hunter63]

Something like a used, $400 Remington sporter auto, cause milsurp 308 ammo costs no more than the LOADING components for 45-70 rds, and the auto offers twice as fast repeat hits. 100 lb deer often run off with 12 ga slugs thru their chests, which beat the hell out of 45-70 area-momentum, so of course no chest hit can be relied upon to stop charges. Only brain hits are likely to suffice. So the 308's cheap practice and speed of repeat tries makes for a far better deal. It's also better for defense against men and for hunting. it can handle everything that the 45-70 can handle and a lot more that the lever gun is a poor, poor choice for, like 300 yd deer or 1/4 mile sniping.

Just got back for a weekend duck hunting trip, and I guess I don't really understand the OP's point?
You like 308 cheap ammo?...Don't like 45/70?....12 ga?
12 ga won't drop a 100 Lb deer DRT? (that's a pertty small deer, what do you use on the big ones,.... 10 ga?)

45/70 is too expensive, doesn't work on charging ...."what?"

Milsup 308 is FMJ (thats "full metal jacket") and is made to wound, not kill, low bullet expansion, poor choice for hunting most anything.
Repeat tries?....what is referance to?....do you reload?
Is this a MBR,...... hunting rifle,....... long range "one shot-one kill?"....self defence?

[Rick]

Yes............

[kyratshooter]

Everyone knows only the .223 can meet all those requirements!

I fail to understand why they continued making any other caliber after they discovered the .223.

Eventually I might have to get me one.

Strangest thing is that I have never owned a 45/70, probably never will, only bought a 308 to play with this past summer. So far the .308 has not impressed me greatly.

I own a 12 ga but have never killed a deer with it. That has been left to my little 20 ga, which has done an admirable job.

The duties of the venerable .308 have been preformed by 30-06 rifles at my house and they seem to have taken up the slack well. They have been assisted by a couple of 7x57 Mausers, which according to this thread should not be enough for a deer and are too expensive to shoot for "practice" (how much practice does one need?) but have proven themselves adequite on all African plains game and over 1000 documented elephant kills in the proper hands.

When I felt I needed something really puney I carried a 30-30, which has dropped many deer and proven itself handy to own and cheap to shoot.

I will leave the choice of bear shooters up to the bear shooters, since as I said, I live in Kentucky and have no need for sitting in my living room and specualting over what will and will not work on bear.

Should I run into one of the smaller black bear cousins I have confidence that since I have nothing in the cabinet smaller than 7mm anything I grab would work on black bear, should one kick in my door and intrude on my space. They are scarce enough around here that I would probably run for the camera before I ran for a rifle.

The deer in the back yard, should I be so inclined, would be in grave danger should I decide to kill one with a stone tipped arrow. We have primitive hunters that do that around here. some kill them with spears and some with atalatal darts.


BTW, I saw a film about the shepards of Mongolia last night. They were playing a game on hosreback where you fight over a dead sheep, tugging and pulling until the beast is torn apart, limb from limb. It seems this game has been passed down from the time of the mongol raiders and was used as an execution method for prisoners. I propose we get some horses and revise the playing of this game substituting trolls for the poor defensless sheep.

[canid]

"Chest shots are really a third choice. It's really all about shot placement...hang on... What do you want MA?!"
"Is someone down there with you?"
"No there's no one down here with me. I'm on the internet"
"Careful you don't catch a virus."
"(Jeese) All right, ma!....I'm back....It's all about shot placement."

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I got that same soldering iron. And that same mess.

[Rick]

I know. I took a picture of your room.

[1stimestar]

Too few coffee cups!

[ElevenBravo]

Ive got a neighbor that took a blackie with a 308.... but, that was a blackie. For a griz it might make a good paddle for the canoe!

I dont think Id go into grizland with less than .44mag and 45-70. Thats just from casual reading, from folks that live in grizland.

Andrew

[Rick]

When in doubt, ask SD.

[MoraGuy]

I hunt all big game with my Marlin 1895 45-70 GG I load up some 425Grain Beartooth Cast bullets and I am telling you mister man they will stop just about anything on this planet...lol. For lighter skinned game I just use the Hornady Leverevelotion ammo! For anything over 200 meters I reach for the 308 or the 338

[Wildthang]

Boy we sure get some doozies around here:smartass:

[hunter63]

I personally like a 1963 4X4 Hemi Dodge Power wagon, for anything that 4 wheel drive can get to.........Oh wait,... wrong thread....sorry.

[ElevenBravo]

Wait.... I love the old power wagons.... please continue!!

[KhonHd]

I would never shoot a bear with a .223. With proper bullet placement would it drop a bear? Probably. But a 45/70 will do the job every time, no questions asked. I use a Marlin 1895 GS (same as MoraGuy but in stanless). Love it and carry it all the time for bear, wolf and deer...

[kyratshooter]

Agreeing that shot placement is everything;

Where, may I ask, is the best place to hit a bear, provided the Powerwagon is a full sized model and equipped with a brushguard?

[hunter63]

Generally in the road, if possible, as off road can get a little bouncy, messing up your aim, of course if the is a barbed wire fence involved, try to hit the post......if you hit the middle of the wire, the post kinda drag along the sides of the truck....Oh yeah the bouncing around will knock the radio attenna off the dash.

If there is water in the ditch, pick up your feet, as the rust holes will let in the water, and wash the carpet(?)

Oh yeah, a winch in the bed will help drag the bear/deer/hog.... up into the truck after the kill.....and of course a 14" chainsaw with veg oil in the bar oil tank, works good for the "hack it up and haul a$$ grocery run....."

Loved that old truck......

[Power Giant]

8567

My namesake: 1958 Dodge Power Giant. 440 plant, Rockwell deuce and a half axles. This truck will go anywhere. Sorry for the hijack-couldn't resist.

[crashdive123]

That's OK. This thread was hijacked the moment the OP posted.

[2dumb2kwit]

8567

My namesake: 1958 Dodge Power Giant. 440 plant, Rockwell deuce and a half axles. This truck will go anywhere. Sorry for the hijack-couldn't resist.

Well yeah, it'll go anywhere...but how's it do killin' bear?:blush:

[crashdive123]

Ya big silly. For bears you gotta have the right truck.

http://media.marconews.com/media/img/photos/2008/11/18/germain2_t607.jpg

[Camp10]

Well, that was a fun read! Glad the ex forced the sale of the 45-70 and I got my .308..... if her and her lawyer read this thread, I might have had to hunt with something inferior to a 12 gauge...... (rolling my eyes)

[ElevenBravo]

Reminder: This is a troll's thread, akin to all the caliber "superiority" threads that pop up on the Enternets.

[GreatUsername]

If it doesn't shoot through schools, go bigger. ;)

[hunter63]

Aw man, now I gotta change barrels on the H&R Handi Rifle, in bear country?...to the 45/70?

[kyratshooter]

You can always switch to the .223 , bounce them off his skull and give him a migrane!

Was this the same troll that claimed no cartridge made would penetrate the skull of a polar bear?

[hunter63]

Yeah......

[ElevenBravo]

I like pie. Do you like pie?

[2dumb2kwit]

I like pie. Do you like pie?

Well...yeah. In fact, I even have a pie chart!:w00t:

8569

[Bushman]

ahahah !!


at 11.38 in the evening, you boys are always good for a LAUGH !! :lol:

[kyratshooter]

I broke my diet rules and had some pie this weekend.

Thanksgiving is just not the same if you can't have just a little piece of pumpkin pie.

One of my hispanic friends made a desert called "flan". It is a custard pie with no crust! You drizzle fruit sauce over it like a cheescake.

If I was around that stuff much I would be one fat hispanic guy!

[Scotticism101]

I gather that this is a bit of a troll thread, but what the heck, I'll bite:

First off, I think it's all about what you can shoot accurately. Shot placement is the most important thing, and how fast you can get a good follow up shot. A year or two ago, a guy in Alaska stopped (read: killed) a charging grizzly with his .45ACP handgun. It took 9 shots, but he was able to get those 9 shots off in a couple of seconds with decent accuracy.

Secondly, I would take a 12GA shotgun with slugs over a 30-06 any day for two reasons. Even if your 30-06 hunting rifle does have a magazine of some kind, I can work a pump action a lot faster than I can a bolt, and my pump action is a lot less likely to jam than a bolt will when I need it most. Also, if for some reason I have to, I can more quickly reload my 12GA from a side-saddle than I can load the internal magazine of a 30-06 hunting rifle.

That being said, it's again all up to what you actually train with.

EDIT: For some reason was thinking someone said 30-06 hunting rifle, not 308 auto. Still, I guess it's all about what you have and what you train with. Still like my 12-ga

[Wildthang]

I heard somebody say one time that the best way to stop a bear is hit him in the face with 00 buckshot a few times. Now I have never hunted bear, but I would think that would definately make him stop and think about it for a minute or 2:scared:

[GreatUsername]

For the sake of keeping with the trolling theme: I betcha some class III permit owners would be willing to bet on a full auto burst to the face from an AK. As would I.


In seriousness though, give me something bolt action, in any, and half a second to aim for the head, and I wouldn't really care much WHICH caliber I'm using. It just has to do the job. If I'm not mauled, I'm satisfied. Granted, I've seen loads of bear out in my neck of the woods, and even way far from towns where they are still truly wild, they only attack if you're doing something horribly wrong. So long as you make noise so you don't startle them, avoid eye-contact, don't bring them in close with food, and DON'T get cozy with a mama's cubs, a bear shouldn't pose a threat to you. Even if they charge, it is more likely than not (particularly with grizzlies) a bluff, to see if you'll run. Once you run, you're prey, and either you or the bear will die. IF you stand your ground, without getting your gun off just because you're panicked, you may very well avoid needlessly killing an animal whose territory YOU were encroaching upon in the first place. If you call a bear's bluff, they almost always leave you alone. Just don't make them angry, and you won't have to shoot them :) (that being said, in bear country, still a good idea to have a revolver with hot-loaded .44 mag, but remember, that's a last resort)

[hunter63]

I. ............If you call a bear's bluff, they almost always leave you alone. Just don't make them angry, and you won't have to shoot them :) (that being said, in bear country, still a good idea to have a revolver with hot-loaded .44 mag, but remember, that's a last resort)

OK if you say so......LOL, as the ones that standing their ground didn't work for,.... aren't here....

[Power Giant]

I have had encounters with bear (not Grizzlies thank goodness), moose, and mountain lions. Only once did I feel the necessity to shoot in defense. I am glad that I missed that shot, though. The animal ran away-no harm done. There is definitely something about facing down an animal that you know can rip you to shreds that can leave you unnerved.

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