Why you interested in Wilderness Survival........??? [Archive]

Sourdough

07-13-2012, 11:51 AM

Why are you interested in "Wilderness Survival".......? The truth.

I am NOT looking for ego driven/sounds good answers, I am looking for the truth, and mostly from the sub-35 y/o members.

karatediver

07-13-2012, 12:27 PM

I like to go out into the wilderness. It is never with the intention of having to survive. I take what I need but sometimes things happen and I want to be prepared. I want to know how to make a fire several different ways in case my matches get wet, lost, etc. I want to know how to clean an animal such as a rabbit and be able to cook and eat it in case I run out of food. I want to be able to survive the cold, find and treat drinking water, and a bunch of other things I might need to survive if my trip turns bad. Plan for the worst, hope for the best.

wildWoman

07-13-2012, 02:27 PM

Why are you interested in "Wilderness Survival".......?

To avoid an untimely, stupidity-based death.
I'm a lot more interested in wilderness living but find there's hardly any fulltime bush rats out in cyberspace, so this will have to do for wilderness talk every now and then, I'm afraid.

Rick

07-13-2012, 02:42 PM

If I go out there I want to come home ... alive. Things happen.

pete lynch

07-13-2012, 04:06 PM

I have never had the urge to go into the wilderness/backcountry/outdoors-away-from-home with the intention to take little and live off what I find. I don't want to be like Les or Cody or Bear or even Dick Proenneke. I would like to live closer to the wilderness but still have contact with society. I don't want to have to make cordage but I want to know how if need be. I guess I'm interested in wilderness/outdoors survival because I don't want to get lost and not find my way back before something else goes wrong. I want to be prepared.

crashdive123

07-13-2012, 04:28 PM

I like wandering in the woods, but I also like wandering out. Having the knowledge, skills and equipment to do it safely is (IMO) a good thing.

I have always enjoyed my time in the woods, be it taking pictures or just getting away. I think that part of my appreciation at this stage of my life is because of the time I was not able to get out and enjoy nature. I've got no complaints about what I did in the military - I would gladly do it all again, but I think that - at least for me - my fondness and appreciation grew deeper with my time away from it.

finallyME

07-13-2012, 04:41 PM

I am a hair under 35. I love backpacking and just spending time in the wilderness without people, other than with people I want to be with (wife, kids, friends). Knowing a little about wilderness survival lets me relax and feel more comfortable. Kinda like having a spare tire in the car in case I get a blowout.

Rick

07-13-2012, 04:43 PM

Jeeeze. I have socks that old.

Sarge47

07-13-2012, 04:44 PM

I have never had the urge to go into the wilderness/backcountry/outdoors-away-from-home with the intention to take little and live off what I find. I don't want to be like Les or Cody or Bear or even Dick Proenneke. I would like to live closer to the wilderness but still have contact with society. I don't want to have to make cordage but I want to know how if need be. I guess I'm interested in wilderness/outdoors survival because I don't want to get lost and not find my way back before something else goes wrong. I want to be prepared.

Society has made the progress that it has in order to enhance the quality of life. I enjoy that quality. But there are times when I just like to sleep in a tent listening to the sparks popping in a campfire. Like Pete, I don't want to "go primitive permanently." However if I could have the best of both worlds that would be great! :cool2:

Celticwarrior

07-13-2012, 04:57 PM

I find that I am most at home in the wild. I don't do well when I am forced into cities and all the crowds. I can survive well on my own, I am responsible to no one by myself, and my mistakes are my own. The birds and raccoons don't care if I have made deadlines, I have no one watching over my shoulder, and in the end, if I don't get something done, I can always do it tomorrow. There are few things in the wildnerness that absolutely positively have to be done RIGHT NOW. Slower pace, less intensity, and less stress. There, I am in control of everything a man can be in control of, and nature runs the rest. Even a cold wet night huddled in your bag waiting for the storm to let up or daylight to break is still better than the best day at work.

jhnnymwr75

07-13-2012, 05:39 PM

Well, being 17, I am a little less than half way. But I do it because nothing they teach me in school interest me. Survival in general does. I wish there was a Survival Class now....

finallyME

07-13-2012, 05:44 PM

All my scouts tell me that there is a wilderness survival course at the high school. Maybe it isn't in your district.

finallyME

07-13-2012, 05:47 PM

Even a cold wet night huddled in your bag waiting for the storm to let up or daylight to break is still better than the best day at work.

That depends. If you are cold and wet in that bag, and you have a cool job (like me :) ) then I would rather be at work, warm and dry and doing something I love. However, if you are warm and dry in that bag, swinging in the trees in a hammock, under a tarp and warm sleeping bag, then that is better than any day at work. :)

finallyME

07-13-2012, 05:49 PM

Jeeeze. I have socks that old.

Maybe you should change them more often. You probably have grandchildren that old as well.

Sourdough

07-13-2012, 05:50 PM

Getting some good honest answers. Keep them coming.

finallyME

07-13-2012, 05:51 PM

Society has made the progress that it has in order to enhance the quality of life. I enjoy that quality. But there are times when I just like to sleep in a tent listening to the sparks popping in a campfire. Like Pete, I don't want to "go primitive permanently." However if I could have the best of both worlds that would be great! :cool2:

Why would you want to hear sparks while in your tent? How close do you put your tent to the fire? Or are you one of those that have an inside the tent wood stove? If my tent is plastic, then I don't want it anywhere near the campfire.

karatediver

07-13-2012, 05:55 PM

Why would you want to hear sparks while in your tent? How close do you put your tent to the fire? Or are you one of those that have an inside the tent wood stove? If my tent is plastic, then I don't want it anywhere near the campfire.

I know a guy that caught his tent on fire......with a cannon while being interviewed by a television reporter! It's a long story.

Sarge47

07-13-2012, 06:00 PM

Why would you want to hear sparks while in your tent? How close do you put your tent to the fire? Or are you one of those that have an inside the tent wood stove? If my tent is plastic, then I don't want it anywhere near the campfire.
My tent is far away from the fire, but you can still hear sparks popping at night. :chinese:

hunter63

07-13-2012, 07:03 PM

Why are you interested in "Wilderness Survival".......?
It sorta a plan "B" when plan "a" goes wrong?....I guess I just into "personnel survival" no matter where I am, but do get out and about.....so it make sense.
That was almost too hard for me.......

Desert Rat!

07-13-2012, 08:52 PM

Jeeeze. I have socks that old. I know huh!

Sarge47

07-13-2012, 09:37 PM

Jeeeze. I have socks that old.

Also a hong! :w00t:

brotherjohn

07-13-2012, 09:40 PM

For me its more nomadic survival than wilderness. I don't want to set up camp I want to move

Winter

07-13-2012, 10:36 PM

It's fun. The skillsets and tools are cool.

It increase my chance of coming home when a fishing or hunting trip goes to crap.

kyratshooter

07-13-2012, 10:43 PM

I am just a little less than twice your 35 limit, here goes anyway.

I am not really into WILDERNESS SURVIVAL.

There is very little real wilderness within 1,000 miles of me. What the Government supports as nearby wilderness areas are so laced with paved roads and spotted with resorts that if I get slightly confused I can listen for traffic noise and walk to the road. I would have to invest a very great deal of money in order to get to a wilderness to become confused in, and do so on purpose. Fact of the matter is, I often wonder how you wilderness living folk have such easy access to internet and other grid services and enough time out of your "root-hog or die" existance to post as often as you do.

I am what most would call a bushcrafter, woodsman, rough camper. I am also a soft camper when possible.

My wilderness skills have come through education, both learning and teaching the skills of the pioneers. In order to teach the skills in my classroom I had to learn them, master them and know that my demonstrations would be successful. One does not fail to get a coal when demonstrating primitive firebuilding to 20-30 high school students. You simply can not fail! It is the same with tracking, shelter building, food processing or any of the other historical skills associated with life in early America. I learned it so I could teach it and preserve the knowledge. When I tell a bunch of kids that Simon Kenton fled Indian attack and ran naked into the snowy wilderness of KY at age 17 and lived to die an old man, and one of those kids asks "How did he stay alive?", I want to be able to show them how it was done.

I am also into all around prepardness. Prep for the "Normal" disasters one encounters in today's world; storm, flood, tornado, huricane, I have endured them all at one time or another and will again.

I am here because this place is a happy medium.

Most preper forums are filled with zombie hunters wearing tin foil hats and plotting against the government. Most bushcraft forums are filled with wussies and tree huggers. I have little in common with those that pray for the fall of civilization and really believe the zombies are out there and I really like to take discussions past the "I love Moras" and let's make a figure 4 trap level of bushcraft.

On this forum I get an "intelligent" blend. (Yes I do find a great deal of intelligence here) The folk that do live out in the bush post knowledge I can use on my little sidehill track in rural KY. Those here that are into food preservation, cooking and gardening post things I need to know from suburbia and occasionally Ms B gives some urban insight I can use. I will just about guarentee it has all happened here this week.

As I have stated before; "I love this place!"

techiedude

07-13-2012, 11:43 PM

Truth...not really interested in WILDERNESS survival but learning ways of several generations back. I am looking to learn and then teach my son ways that not just a generation or two back had to learn just ot live. Over the last year or so i have learned canning, Growing my own food, water production, and many other skills that my generation has lost. These skills will be needed in the very near future and my offspring will need to know how to do these things just ot live.

Pocomoonskyeyes3

07-13-2012, 11:59 PM

Well I'm over the age of 35, But my heroes WEREN'T Cowboys...but close. My Heroes were Mountain Men and the Native Americans that they sometimes interacted with. The books I read(Like Buckskin Brigade) just made them sound....almost superhuman with some of their feats.. I just could not for the life of me figure out how anyone could go away from civilization and STAY away for months and/or years at a time. I kept thinking "How did they do it?"

Then I was in Boy Scouts when "Jeremiah Johnson" was released and Robert Redford made it all so real. I got my Dad to order "Outdoor Survival Skills" by Larry Dean Olsen, who was the technical adviser for JJ and Robert Redford even did the Foreword... I was hooked. From then 'til now I've always been interested in "Wilderness Survival. It's a good thing too, more than once that knowledge has paid off. I honestly believe that it (the basics at least) should be a requirement for all hunters,fishermen, and backpackers. Every year someone from those groups of outdoorsmen loses their life for various reasons, but perhaps that could be lessened IF they knew the basics.

crashdive123

07-14-2012, 08:00 AM

Oops. My apologies - didn't read the 35 y.o. thingie.

cowgirlup

07-14-2012, 08:21 AM

The interest in the wilderness started a long time ago. Camping and running around in the woods as a kid. Did a few of the naturalist aid classes at the state parks. Grew up and got to hike many of the state parks and figured doing something stupid would result in death or serious injury and that would ruin all the fun. So I'd better know some stuff.

kyratshooter

07-14-2012, 10:21 AM

Oops. My apologies - didn't read the 35 y.o. thingie.

The under 35 crowd is the group that posts for two weeks or a month and never comes back. They have the attention span of a knat.

It is us old dudes that make 80% of the posts and answer 100% of the questions and stay on the forum for thousands of posts.

At least the 100% of the questions that get correct answers.

Now Sparky and a couple of others are exceptions but they are not "normal".

Hey POCO, good to see you hooked up to the internet again! We missed you! How is Equis healing up?

Batch

07-14-2012, 11:09 AM

I was thinking about something I had read in one of the Foxfire books. It was about someone smelting iron out of ore and making a musket out of the earth. I know that was not done by most backwoodsman and I really don't have the desire to try either. But, it set me to thinking about if I had to make my own gun powder from whats available to me in our backwoods, could I?

I started just googling and reading books on early settlers in the area and the precolumbian inhabitants of South Florida.

Ultimately I have settled for taking care of the basics like fire building and bushcraft. I learn new stuff almost everyday and always every trip out. The best part is showing my family what I discovered or learned. They really seem to enjoy the time we spend in the woods together.

Pretty Pants

07-14-2012, 11:57 AM

Hey all, love the comments on this thread, and some great points made.

My own personal thoughts on the subject are, life is always about dealing with the hows of achieving your wants. I've always had a love of freedom. To be truly free, you need to be independent. To be independent, you need to be capable of safely doings things on your own. To be safe on your own, you need to acquire the knowledge to allow that. I mostly get that from the ideas of others, plus through the actual experience of practice.

To me, it isn't actually only about survival, but how to achieve what I most dearly love, and that is freedom. The freedom to make choices.

Thanks, Pretty Pants

Pocomoonskyeyes3

07-14-2012, 05:28 PM

Hey POCO, good to see you hooked up to the internet again! We missed you! How is Equis healing up?
Thanks! She is doing well and even riding again! Just last weekend she and the boys went on an 8 hour trail ride! <Shakes head incredulously, but proudly> She's back to work, and working overtime today. Which brings me to something kinda' related to this thread....safety equipment. IF she hadn't worn her riding helmet that day, the day of her accident, she would NOT have survived. Normally she didn't wear her riding helmet, fortunately that day she did.

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