Bored, with a altoids tin.... Your thoughts and suggestions?

[jhnnymwr75]

I know a lot of people a pose to the survival altoids tin, but it's summer, I'm bored and there is nothing like a good challange. I've had my tin for probably 2 Months or so, just as a trial run to see if it is useful at all. My contents are: 2 condoms, 5 feet of duct tape, I.D., a Swiss army knife (with the red sides removed), 10 feet of 550 paracord, 2 benadryll, 2 pain killers ( forgot what brand, I know it's acetametophine, probably spelled wrong. ) 3 iodine tabs, and a mini bic lighter wrapped in several feet of hemp cordage, and that's it. The tin has gotten quite ruffed up covered in rust, dents, scratches ect. and soon it will be convereted to a tool I can char cloth with as an added feature.
It's pretty full, but I'm trying to improve it so I can pass it onto a friend who would like it. But an suggestions such as water proofing techniques, other usefull small items, anything you add for participation is much appreciated!

[Rick]

Personally, I'd dump the condoms. There are better choices out there today in water bags. A button compass might be beneficial as well. If you can, squeeze a whistle in there. That would give you water, fire, signalling and navigation. Since you have cordage you have shelter covered as well.

[Sarge47]

Ya might want to leave a couple of Altoids in there as well, that way, if you've been out in the bush for quite some time eating who knows what, your breath won't be an offense to the S & R guys...just sayin'.....:w00t:

[hunter63]

Has anyone ever really water proofed a Altoids tin?

I get the part about stuffing as much gear in a limited sized container.....and yeah I know it is "Required" to use and Altoids tin....but I prefer something that is water proof or can be made water proof easily.

For years I just carried a plastic 2 part cigarette case.......actually still do, but in a Milsurp pouch.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/hunter63/BOBcrop.jpg

[Winter]

Altoids tin, to me, is just not big enough. I use a plastic spice bottle.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/w6f7/boloxkit.jpg

Those contents are not exactly what is in it now.

Tape waterproofs an Altoids tin.

[jhnnymwr75]

Altoids tin, to me, is just not big enough. I use a plastic spice bottle.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/w6f7/boloxkit.jpg

Those contents are not exactly what is in it now.

Tape waterproofs an Altoids tin.
I've tried tape and the inside got wet, although everything on the side that was important was in a baggy so it wasn't bad. But it was just regular duct tape, are other kinds water proof?

[jhnnymwr75]

Has anyone ever really water proofed a Altoids tin?

I get the part about stuffing as much gear in a limited sized container.....and yeah I know it is "Required" to use and Altoids tin....but I prefer something that is water proof or can be made water proof easily.

For years I just carried a plastic 2 part cigarette case.......actually still do, but in a Milsurp pouch.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/hunter63/BOBcrop.jpg

The only time I heard you 'had to' use a Altoids tin was for the competition. I've thought greatly on using another container, something bigger but not by much. But I don't want to go by something, but i've gotten some good ideas from you and Winter!

[Warheit]

I think an Altoids tin is a little too small, but there is no harm in putting a survival kit that size with your pack. I think Hunter has the right idea and may have even changed what I want to do with mine.

[Sarge47]

When I put mine together I left out the Swiss Army knife and put in one of their Swiss Army CARDS instead. They're about the size of a credit card but a little thicker a little thicker and lay down flat so they don't use up much room. Add a small Fresnel lens and a flat piece of mirror cut from a sheet that they sell at Auto Zone or someplace like that for repairing your side-view mirror and you've still got some room. :cool2:

[Winter]

I've tried tape and the inside got wet, although everything on the side that was important was in a baggy so it wasn't bad. But it was just regular duct tape, are other kinds water proof?

I used electrical tape when I used an altoids tin. It kept the contents dry in a rain forest.

[Graf]

I would lose yhe Bic lighter and replace with a 3/32 firesteel , add a button compass, 2 fish hooks, and a safety pin. I have found that when I polish the inside lid it can serve as a signaling device

[hunter63]

I used electrical tape when I used an altoids tin. It kept the contents dry in a rain forest.

How many times can you open and re=seal before the tape goes non-sticky.
I never had much luck winding tape electrical or duct tape on to some thing else.........seems it looses its stick-am or you can't get it off with out tearing.

I do carry a small leftover roll of electrical tape....end of the roll w/first aid stuff, this is a left over from my serviceman's days.

[Winter]

Hunter, I'm not sure. I never used the contents of the tin. Everything in the tin was secondary and redundant.

I guess I should say "it was waterproof till opened". Hahaha

[hunter63]

Hunter, I'm not sure. I never used the contents of the tin. Everything in the tin was secondary and redundant.

I guess I should say "it was waterproof till opened". Hahaha

LOL, Yeah, I hear ya....if I gotta break into this "kit" everything has really gone south........I got it all in there, but I not gonna take it out for nothing!

I should change out the gum in my pouch, and the single coffee pack is probally really out of date......As you can see, the kit has quarters for a pay phone in it, you would play heck even finding a pay phone these days......Possibility the water purfication tabs are sorta old as well......para cord hadn't been invented when I built this version, nor had ferro rods.(does have a little "metal match" though)

Latest addition was the little LED flashlight, wonder if the batteries are still good?

Does kinda make you wonder how many time thes "kits" are actually used.

[Rick]

Put it in a vacuum seal bag or ziplock.

[hunter63]

Yeah, that works pretty well......
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/hunter63/Bobcrop2.jpg

[Sarge47]

Coleman's, Texsport, and Coghlans make a 3-pack of waterproof heavy-duty plastic pouches that hold up a lot better than zip-locks.

http://www.coghlans.com/products/waterproof-pouch-set-9710

http://www.coleman.com/SearchResults?SearchText=waterproof pouches

http://www.campready.com/waterproof_pouch.htm

Enjoy. :cool2:

[hunter63]

Saw those, though they were kinda pricey at the time, of course what is dry gear worth when you really need it?.......Right?
Thanks for posting.

[Jimmyq]

I have been swapping important stuff out of ziploc freezer bags into Loksack pouches, kinda pricey but if its an expensive cell phone, portable hard drive, personal documents, camera or long term storage of sensitive items, I am willing to pay a couple bucks vs a few cents. http://www.loksak.com/

[Sarge47]

I have been swapping important stuff out of ziploc freezer bags into Loksack pouches, kinda pricey but if its an expensive cell phone, portable hard drive, personal documents, camera or long term storage of sensitive items, I am willing to pay a couple bucks vs a few cents. http://www.loksak.com/

Those look better made than the ones I posted! I always have problems with zip-lock bags coming loose at the worst possible time and then they are unable to close properly. In any kit I'd want to have the best quality of items that I could! Thanks for posting this Jimmy, looks great! :thumbup:

[hunter63]

I agree boys, I seriously need to re-think my choice of water proof bags......
When this kit was first made up cell phones and zip drives weren't around or common then. LOL

Zip locks were the cats behind as far as waterptoofing goes...then.

[Phaedrus]

Personally, I'd dump the condoms. There are better choices out there today in water bags. A button compass might be beneficial as well. If you can, squeeze a whistle in there. That would give you water, fire, signalling and navigation. Since you have cordage you have shelter covered as well.

No association with Rick, but I 100% agree with him. I recently ordered two dozen Whirl-Paks from his site and am pretty tickled with them. They easily fold down to just larger than a condom and are will hold up much better. They're also a known size which makes use of chemical water sanitization much easier. They're very comparable to the Aqua-Pouch bags the Mr. McCann sells over as his site.

[Phaedrus]

There are lots of inexpensive containers that I find handy. First off, the Aloksaks have served me well for a few years. I've read a few accounts of them coming apart but it's never happened to me.

I also really love these Australian-made Sistema boxes. (http://www.amazon.com/Sistema-6-7-Ounce-Containers-3-Pack-Clear/dp/B002KKCLM8/ref=pd_sim_k_5) I get 'em locally at World Market for around $2.50. With the O-ring seals they're tight as a nun's behind! In fact, I sealed one in my chamber vac and it held a vacuum so tight it crushed the box! They're durable, dishwasher-safe, BPA-free and come in many sizes. The one I like the best holds about 7oz IIRC and is roughly 1.5-2 X larger than an Altoids tin.

Also, my local Scheel's store carries a small waterproof box branded as "Lifeline." It appears to be a re-badged Witz box. It's about $7 and pretty sturdy. It's quite a bit larger than an Altoids tin, although the one downside of any hard case is that it inevitably won't accommodate as much crap as a pouch that has some flex.

Lastly I'm a vacuum sealer junkie! I have a VacMaster VP215C chamber vac that I use to seal lots of stuff. Mine was about $1000 but much of what I do with it can be done with a $50 Rival brand sealer from Wally World.

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