THREE ITEMS.........To keep you alive (Originally by WoodsCustom)

[WoodsCustom]

I am a new member of this site, but not new to self sufficiency and the survivor DNA that most of us possess.

I must say, I am very impressed with this site and its information. I feel that quite a few of you guys could make it home or to your Safe place during a SHTF occurance using your knowledge and wearing your clothes of the day with empty pockets.

But when it all comes down to it, What three items do you feel will keep you alive the longest for any enviornment, or situation. What Three items do you feel are non-negotiable Keep alive items and should be consitered a true GIFT to the survivor. These THREE ITEMS could be done without for a while, but would be your #1 priority to find or make.

These THREE ITEMS would be a total Gift to me and would Totally make my life easier.

A Good Knife
A Way to make Fire
A container to boil in, Such as a Canteen cup or Folgers coffie can.

Some will have a different "Three Items" and I am interested in what they might be,

You only get "3"

[BENESSE]

A Good Knife
A Way to make Fire
A container to boil in, Such as a Canteen cup or Folgers coffie can.

Some will have a different "Three Items" and I am interested in what they might be,

You only get "3"

WoodsCustom

I'd consider those same theree items the price of entry to any survival situation anywhere. Can't imagine replacing any one with something else. I'll assume that the right clothing and footware (also important) are sepparate from the 3.

[tsitenha]

Long handled hatchet....probably can do what a knife does plus
Tarp...hardest item to aquire fast and easily
Ferro rod...faster than rubbing

To bad only 3...4rth would be a SSGI cup

[Wildthang]

2 girls and my backpack:smartass:

[Renatus]

deleted.....

[Pinpin]

Do we have our EDC with us?

[Graf]

Same with the basics

Cutting tool
Cumbustable device
Container

[Rick]

I'm going to take a different tact on this. Here are my three:

1. My knowledge
2. My good health (If I'm injured in the "scenario" or dead it changes the whole dynamics. Especially the dead part)
3. A knife

[hunter63]

I'm going with: knowledge, knife and shelter ....rest of the stuff can be made or gathered.

Just a note, and I guess it's a personnel thing, BUT....(LOL)

What's with the "only" part, be it one, three, ten....

Possibility if it was put "How small of a kit could you get by with"? or "What did you have on you when the plane crashed that was useful to survive?'...or "Stranded in the desert, what can you get by with"?.........." My boat sunk, these are n my needs......"
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It's a rhetorical question attempting to put a reasonable limit on the necessaries, in a very general context...... Fun to do, but I dislike limits.......Murphy's law will say that what ever I need....I left it home.

[Sarge47]

Another one of those "you only get (insert number here) posts!" Okay, remember, you asked for it! :shifty:

1.) A really big, fully loaded RV.

2.) A "chain gun" with plenty of Ammo.

3.) A year's supply of food and water.

Now, aren't you sorry you asked? :w00t:

[tjwilhelm]

I think the intent and spirit of this thread is to stimulate thinking...and re-thinking...about what really are the most useful, critical "tools" to have with you in a crisis/survival situation.

Fundamentally, survival is all about protecting the body, and feeding the ongoing needs of the body; and, doing both as energy-efficiently as possible. This is the purpose of carrying tools and supplies -- they enable you to survive without expending more energy than necessary. Tools save the body's energy consumption and save time in efforts to protect and support the body.

In this light, I think WC pretty much nailed it with his list of three items. It would be interesting though, to see if anyone else has alternative lists along with the reasons for their chosen items.

Regardless whose "sacred order" you use, I think it's pretty universally accepted that the 4 most important elements of a survival effort are shelter, fire, water, and food. So-o-o, aside from skills and knowledge, are there three top items that would make your shelter/fire/water/food efforts easier. faster, and more efficient?

[Geek]

Personally, I'd take all these you only have X questions and ask for what situation? I might have a different answer for a hurricane vs. an EMP. My preferred questions would be for Scenario X, what would you need to be prepared?

[randyt]

I would opt for a hudson bay style axe rather than the knife if possible.

[jcullen24]

1: Knife http://www.amazon.com/Ka-Bar-2-1249-9-Black-Kukri-Machete/dp/B001H53Q8A/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1RIGY910EIYKA&coliid=IUNBI08REJ3XU

2: My Key Chain :idea:

3: Army Canteen Kit, with stainless steel cup. http://www.amazon.com/Rothco-Canteen-Cover-Olive-Green/dp/B00598KU7Q/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1338048055&sr=8-1-spell :angel:

I really would like to take my Book, Forager's Harvest with me though. :whip:

But my best answer is... My BOB.

[hunter63]

See there ya, go, the numbers are already getting hedged...
Does a "Kit" constitute an item.?....Does a Glock..45 include ammo?....Is a motor home not count?

I agree with WC orginal list.... as a thought provoking drill, and I'm sure would work for him.
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A Good Knife
A Way to make Fire
A container to boil in, Such as a Canteen cup or Folgers coffie can.
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But I could argue a boat sinking in the ocean might change this list.......

[nell67]

2 girls and my backpack:smartass:

Thats not survival dear,THATS a death wish....

[Sarge47]

I think the intent and spirit of this thread is to stimulate thinking...and re-thinking...about what really are the most useful, critical "tools" to have with you in a crisis/survival situation.

Fundamentally, survival is all about protecting the body, and feeding the ongoing needs of the body; and, doing both as energy-efficiently as possible. This is the purpose of carrying tools and supplies -- they enable you to survive without expending more energy than necessary. Tools save the body's energy consumption and save time in efforts to protect and support the body.

In this light, I think WC pretty much nailed it with his list of three items. It would be interesting though, to see if anyone else has alternative lists along with the reasons for their chosen items.

Regardless whose "sacred order" you use, I think it's pretty universally accepted that the 4 most important elements of a survival effort are shelter, fire, water, and food. So-o-o, aside from skills and knowledge, are there three top items that would make your shelter/fire/water/food efforts easier. faster, and more efficient?

I disagree, we have to assume we're somewhere that the aforementioned items were needed. What if you're stranded at sea or in a desert? Survival situations never work the way you expect them too, they hit you when you're not looking for them! You might be injured pretty badly; people around you might be dead or dying! You're FIRST survival tool is your MIND! You train it right! 1st aid knowledge is a lot more important than a "sexy looking knife" hanging off of your belt.

"Yeah, I'm into survival...can't you see my cool "survival knife?"

Here's the thing, you always need to "Be Prepared!" That means you train your mind to be ready no matter what. So what happens if you lose ALL of your gear? What do you do then? If it's a perfect situation then it's NOT a true "survival situation." :cool2:

[WoodsCustom]

Some people really have a hard time with a post like this. Wanting to bring the following..

1. CABELA's
2. SUPER MARKET
3. Town & Country Ford Dealership

Some people just don't understand what 3 items are.

WC

[jcullen24]

Some people really have a hard time with a post like this. Wanting to bring the following..

1. CABELA's
2. SUPER MARKET
3. Town & Country Ford Dealership

Some people just don't understand what 3 items are.

WC


Well no need to get Pissy! :wub: I was funnin with ya. I believe in being prepared over these minimalist scenarios. But like everone else said.

3 basic items.

Knife
Fire steel
Water Container. :rambo:

[tjwilhelm]

I disagree, we have to assume we're somewhere that the aforementioned items were needed. What if you're stranded at sea or in a desert? Survival situations never work the way you expect them too, they hit you when you're not looking for them! You might be injured pretty badly; people around you might be dead or dying! You're FIRST survival tool is your MIND! You train it right! 1st aid knowledge is a lot more important than a "sexy looking knife" hanging off of your belt.

"Yeah, I'm into survival...can't you see my cool "survival knife?"

Here's the thing, you always need to "Be Prepared!" That means you train your mind to be ready no matter what. So what happens if you lose ALL of your gear? What do you do then? If it's a perfect situation then it's NOT a true "survival situation." :cool2:

Ah, HA! A discussion!

What, exactly is it you disagree with, Sarge? I'm guessing it was my statement, "In this light, I think WC pretty much nailed it with his list of three items. It would be interesting though, to see if anyone else has alternative lists along with the reasons for their chosen items." Am I right?

If my guess is correct, I clearly see and understand your point...GOOD point, too. That said, because this is the WILDERNESS Survival Forums, I took WC's original post to have been made within that context. I wasn't picturing being shipwrecked in the middle of Lake Erie as a Wilderness Survival situation.

[Odin'sRaven]

1. Knife

2. Bow

3. Rope

[Irish_King_Donut]

Well, since I have to take my mind and body with me (I have trained both to hunt and kill T-Rex with no effort) I would take:

1 Case of beer
2 BBQ grill
3 Big jar of marinade

I agree with Sarge about the situation being a huge factor in what I think is important to take. Specify the situation and I could give you a real answer.

[Sarge47]

Ah, HA! A discussion!

What, exactly is it you disagree with, Sarge? I'm guessing it was my statement, "In this light, I think WC pretty much nailed it with his list of three items. It would be interesting though, to see if anyone else has alternative lists along with the reasons for their chosen items." Am I right?

If my guess is correct, I clearly see and understand your point...GOOD point, too. That said, because this is the WILDERNESS Survival Forums, I took WC's original post to have been made within that context. I wasn't picturing being shipwrecked in the middle of Lake Erie as a Wilderness Survival situation.

We get this kind of post every so often, usually by some in their teens, or even younger who has no real idea what survival means. A true "Wilderness" does NOT always mean the deep, dark woods. If you break the word down it's WILDER-NESS! In the Bible the Isrealites' were lost in the "wilderness" for 40 years, and that is referring to a desert. There have been those who have survived with nothing at all, and there are those who have perished with more gear than most would ever think of carrying. However, if you must play this game then think of this: The 3 most important items will be the ones you need in ANY given situation, no matter where you are, in ANY given set of circumstances! What good is a knife if both of your arms are broken and you can't move them? For a good example of this, check out the true survival story on my blog: "The Other Side of the Coin."

True, we should endeavor to keep the proper equipment around us as much as possible, but it's not always possible. I drive buses where both State and Federal laws prohibit me from carrying any kind of a weapon. No room for a "bob." (By the way, since the name "Bob" has been used so much I've named my bag "Bill!")

So I've equipped my mind with the knowledge needed to, hopefully, keep me alive in any bad situation. Everything else is moot. So answer me this, what is the biggest killer in any "lost person" survival situation? :cool2:

[randyt]

ok you broke me down

#1 Marilyn Monroe
#2 Pam Anderson
#3 Anna Nicole Smith

[tjwilhelm]

...So answer me this, what is the biggest killer in any "lost person" survival situation? :cool2:

I honestly don't KNOW the answer; but, I'm willing to offer up a few guesses:


Lack of awareness and safety consciousness, leading to "accidental" death, or injury leading to death;
Lack of protection of the core body temperature, leading to hypo- or hyper-thermia, resulting in death.


Are either of those close to the correct answer?

[1stimestar]

For me it would depend on the time of year. Summer temps here run around 70, winter though can be as cold as -50F. If I were stranded outside in winter, a shovel would certainly be on the top of my list. Making a snow cave with hands is dangerous. Especially my hands which have been frostbitten so are a bit on the fragile side.

[Sarge47]

I honestly don't KNOW the answer; but, I'm willing to offer up a few guesses:


Lack of awareness and safety consciousness, leading to "accidental" death, or injury leading to death;
Lack of protection of the core body temperature, leading to hypo- or hyper-thermia, resulting in death.


Are either of those close to the correct answer?

The answer is "boredom!" Surprised? :cool2:

[Geek]

2 out of 3 are deceased. Perhaps you want to amend your list?

[Sarge47]

2 out of 3 are deceased. Perhaps you want to amend your list?

Ok, I'm not touching that one! :w00t:

[randyt]

I figured somebody would catch that but beings it's a what if scenario, anything goes. LOL

[Durtyoleman]

my apologies


D.O.M.

,

[randyt]

OK, OK on second thought I'll think on a couple that are alive as long as they have the correct attributes, meaning blue eyes

[WoodsCustom]

So answer me this, what is the biggest killer in any "lost person" survival situation? :cool2:

Sarge, Please don't hi-jack my thread. If you want to ask that question please start your own thread.

Furthermore, Please re-read my original post, it gives all the information you need.

Thanks,

WC

[Sarge47]

I figured somebody would catch that but beings it's a what if scenario, anything goes. LOL

What about some "blow-up" dolls? Rick may have a few you can borrow! :w00t:

[Sarge47]

Sarge, Please don't hi-jack my thread. If you want to ask that question please start your own thread.

Furthermore, Please re-read my original post, it gives all the information you need.

Thanks,

WC

My response still stands, "boredom" is one of the most important things that should be considered! :cool2:

[randyt]

My response still stands, "boredom" is one of the most important things that should be considered! :cool2:


that's why I chose the list that I did, reckoned it would alleviate any boredom. Figured it would be nice to have somebody to talk to.

[Durtyoleman]

with regrets.

[crashdive123]

For the area that I live and wander through, I would have to agree with WC in the OP. In a different area and climate I might substitute tarp for the knife. I can fashion a cutting edge out of stone, but there is an amazing lack of them in the woods of N. Florida. Shells do OK, but are rather soft, so knife it is for now.

[randyt]

typically I carry my leatherman, zippo and canteen cup.

[BrazilianSnowMan]

1- 10in Bowie knife

2- A magnesium fire starter

3- .22 bolt action with 1.000 rounds


I can make shelter, cordage and improvise a cooking/boiling conteiner.:punk:




If you say the .22 and the brick of ammo is not an item, Ok, I'll change it for a 35 lbs bow...

[Rick]

I guess I have to challenge all you knife, can, fire folks.

You have the knife and no knowledge of what to do with it. As Sarge said if you have the knowledge then you can make a knife.

If you don't have good health, i.e. injured, how do you accomplish fire and water?

Finally, TJ, I will disagree on the food aspect of your post. Since I don't know the duration of the "impending doom" the OP put forth I don't know if I'm surviving in the woods, trying to get home, etc. I could probably last a day or two without food. Okay, maybe a week or two. Month? Yeah, but there better be a box of twinkies waitin' when I'm done.

With all due respect WoodsCustom I could ask you a zillion questions about your post that covered everything. There were two in my reply to TJ. I get what you are striving for, however.

[Sarge47]

Ok, I was wrong, it's NOT boredom, it's PANIC that's the #1 killer. So as a kind gesture to the op person, I'm going to start another thread on "panic and it's 2 ugly stepsisters." Get ready, I'll ask questions later. :shifty:

[crashdive123]

Whew! You had me scratching my head on the boredom thing.

[Sarge47]

Whew! You had me scratching my head on the boredom thing.

It's almost as bad, even scarier because of when it happens. Read the new thread. :shifty:

[COWBOYSURVIVAL]

Being a horseman, I agree panic or spooking is the worst thing a man can do. Keep a level head and make decisions based on the situation at hand.

[Durtyoleman]

i should be restrained from typing while intoxicated.

[BENESSE]

I guess I have to challenge all you knife, can, fire folks.

You have the knife and no knowledge of what to do with it. As Sarge said if you have the knowledge then you can make a knife.

If you don't have good health, i.e. injured, how do you accomplish fire and water?

The OP stipulated 3 items you'd take with you. "Brains" & "health" aren't items that one would normally leave behind, say, in favor of a tarp and bacon jerky...although some people have been known to take leave of their senses, but that's a whole 'nother thread.
Maybe I'm too trusting, but when someone says they'd take a knife along I'm gonna assume they know how to use it. At least in the context of this thread.

[tjwilhelm]

I guess I have to challenge all you knife, can, fire folks.

You have the knife and no knowledge of what to do with it. As Sarge said if you have the knowledge then you can make a knife.

If you don't have good health, i.e. injured, how do you accomplish fire and water?

Finally, TJ, I will disagree on the food aspect of your post. Since I don't know the duration of the "impending doom" the OP put forth I don't know if I'm surviving in the woods, trying to get home, etc. I could probably last a day or two without food. Okay, maybe a week or two. Month? Yeah, but there better be a box of twinkies waitin' when I'm done.

With all due respect WoodsCustom I could ask you a zillion questions about your post that covered everything. There were two in my reply to TJ. I get what you are striving for, however.

I agree with Benesse. I think the knowledge to use the knife (and the can, and the fire gear) are implied here. Why waste the weight and space carrying tools you don't know how to use? Regarding the food issue, I don't disagree with your comments, Rick. I was just repeating the so-called "sacred order of survival" and the so-called "rule-of threes." Go ahead and throw out any concern about food...shelter, fire, and water are still likely to be three of your top concerns. If so, and within the context of the OP, a knife, can, and fire means are still valuable tools to make the survival effort more efficient and energy conserving.

[Thaddius Bickerton]

Ok, I am tired but I would like to play. Please allow I'm having a bit of stroke brain drizzle so may misspell or some such.

You said get to a place such as home during SHTF. OK I will take this as the overall parameter. The S has HTF and I have to travel someplace farther than a short walk to get to my nearest cache or home to better equip myself. What three things do I want to have to cover a reasonable distance to better stuff.

As my life is at the present I cannot imagine being over 100 miles from some reasonable place where I can get supplies of my own stashing or get home. So worst case I have to walk / cover that 100 miles to get to more / better stuff.

I grant myself shirt, pants, shoes and weather appropriate outer wear such as jacket and hat.

item one is something to cut with, preferable one of my knifes.

Item two A bottle of some concoction in sufficient quantity to mask pain and tiredness. (we carried something similar in the corp. Take two and run all day. and keep moving through pain that should send you to the grave or hospital.) This is not legal stuff and will get you sent to the gulag today if you have / carry it and I do not have it or know where to get it, but having it would be a major increase in the likelyhood of making to a place with better gear.

item three would be Item three would be a way to have water. A 2 liter soda bottle would be ok, other things as well. I don't plan on stopping to eat or rest except for cat naps. the knife is to cut stuff that gets in my way be it simple or as complex as mutant zombie bikers. Between the item 2 and water I can move for the 3 or 4 days to cover the ground I need to cover and then slip into someplace to rest and gear up better.

so knife , cocktail, water. My three to get me home / cache to better stuff come SHTF. Baring item 2 being unavailable, I suppose caffien pills and aspirin would at least be better than nothing but I would have to move slower and rest more.

If I had no pills then I would opt for sugar / pogue bait as number 2.

[Sarge47]

I just read through this entire thread and nowhere, I repeat, NOWHERE does anybody list a 1ST AID KIT!! IMO a 1st aid kit is TOP PRIORITY!!! You will, in all likelihood, use an aid kit sooner than you're knife...especially if the blade slips and you cut the crap out of yourself!!! :scared: And people wonder why I don't take these kind of threads seriously. :laugh:

[BENESSE]

I just read through this entire thread and nowhere, I repeat, NOWHERE does anybody list a 1ST AID KIT!! IMO a 1st aid kit is TOP PRIORITY!!! You will, in all likelihood, use an aid kit sooner than you're knife...especially if the blade slips and you cut the crap out of yourself!!! :scared: And people wonder why I don't take these kind of threads seriously. :laugh:

I understand where you're coming from, Sarge, but I think the intention of the OP was just an exercise, not be all end all of survival. I'm reminded of a very old thread started by Remy maybe 3yrs ago (photos included) of long lines of Asian/African refugees carrying very little like a jerry can, a cook pot and a blanket and the point was, if I remember correctly, that one can get by with very little if the basics are covered and the skills are there to use the basics to max. advantage. People seemed to agree en masse.

[frdgrss]

A Good Knife , My Knowlage , And a will to Live.

[crashdive123]

Yeah - the intent is to get people thinking. Three individual items - no kits. If you felt that an ace bandage or a pack of Quick Clot should be one of your three things, by all means carry it.

Nobody is suggesting that anybody go out unprepared - just a little mental gym.

[Pinpin]

Nobody is suggesting that anybody go out unprepared - just a little mental gym.

That really all this, a "what if" question. No one is really going to unprepared into woods/water/desert.

For my area, New England Forests, I'd take my Junglas, big enough to cut what ever and very intimidating should self defense be an issue. Second, I'd take a backpack. I could put my first item in it to conceal it and pick up anything and be able to carry it. Third, a large canvas tarp. Cut some off for bandages and could still leave enough for shelter/improving a shelter.

[Geek]

Well, we have issues of whether we'd take the same 3 items depending on the scenario or environment and a bunch of other issues with the question, such as what constitutes an "item". I'll make a couple assumptions. I am dressed right for the environment and wearing the right boots/shoes for a long walk. Given all that, here are mine:

1) My key chain, which has a small knife, small flashlight, small lighter attached, as well as a carabiner and a water bottle carrier I displayed in another post. I consider this one item and I never leave the house without it.

2) A metal water bottle or canteen. Water is basic survival and on my past evacuations water would have been helpful.

3) An AM/FM radio to get some news. BTW: No signal means the power is out big time, which is news.
This is part of my EDC now.

If I get a #4 I add food. My EDC now would at least have a couple granola bars and the BOB in my car would give me 3 days of food.

Given the First Aid Kit comment above, every car has a first aid kit. The house has a first aid kit, etc. but the question is set up so you gotta prioritize and we won't all prioritize the same.

My true layering is I've got what is on me first, and what is in my EDC second and the BOB in my car third. By the time I get to the BOB I am comfortable for 3 days and probably alive for a week.

[hunter63]

If we can use the truck....I'm good to go for a long time.....LOL

[crashdive123]

If we can use the truck....I'm good to go for a long time.....LOL

Yeah - truck would be a relaxing camping trip.....good for a few months.

[WoodsCustom]

A Good Knife , My Knowlage , And a will to Live.

Frdgrss,

You get two more. Unless your head is chopped off.

WC

[Rick]

He gets two more wives?! That's just not right. I mean if I had known that I'd......oh, snap. He said knife. Never mind.

[hunter63]

One wife is enough.....plenty in fact.....I'll stop.....

[WoodsCustom]

You are a bunch of funny guys! For some of you, I think my X-wives were more prepared and could come up with better answers than you all did!

A funny Bunch!

Lip Balm, Tic-Tacs, and a tampon.

Oh, and I can't forget, The correct mental state and Mind to use them so as to not get bored or panic.

HA HA HA!!!

WC

[heysmithy]

I just read through this entire thread and nowhere, I repeat, NOWHERE does anybody list a 1ST AID KIT!! IMO a 1st aid kit is TOP PRIORITY!!! You will, in all likelihood, use an aid kit sooner than you're knife...especially if the blade slips and you cut the crap out of yourself!!! :scared: And people wonder why I don't take these kind of threads seriously. :laugh:

I kinda disagree on the first aid kit. I hardly ever have a first aid kit on me. I keep one in the car, but I find most of the stuff to be completely useless. A simple tube of neosporin and maybe some gauss is plenty for me. Add some Quickclot/Celox and whatever uppers Thaddius Bickerton was alluding to earlier, and you've pretty much got all bases covered on the first aid field.

As to the three items thing... I'll answer based on this quote from the OP:

But when it all comes down to it, What three items do you feel will keep you alive the longest for any enviornment, or situation.

I guess for starters I don't think there ARE three items that would keep me alive in ANY environment or situation. That said we'll go for "most general purpose" here...

The first obvious answer to me is: 1) Leatherman tool - 2) Bic lighter - 3) Big ol' can of beans. The uses are apparent enough for those I don't need to go into the "whys".

But that doesn't make those the best tools for any situation or even the MAJORITY of situations. For the majority of situations, Id take 1) nice fat wad of cash - 2) drivers license - 3) cell phone.

Obviously, more specificity is needed on the situation...

[Rick]

heysmithy - I view First Aid as Better to have it and not need it than to...well, you know. I think all of the stuff we tote around is useless unless you need it. A severe injury could be less severe with the proper stuff handy. I have a pretty fat first aid kit I drag everywhere because you just never know. I know you "kinda disagree" so I posted this hoping you give it some added thought. First Aid knowledge, too, of course. I don't want to see anyone injured.

[Sourdough]

My PLB
A good sleeping bag
A four-season tent

[Sarge47]

heysmithy - I view First Aid as Better to have it and not need it than to...well, you know. I think all of the stuff we tote around is useless unless you need it. A severe injury could be less severe with the proper stuff handy. I have a pretty fat first aid kit I drag everywhere because you just never know. I know you "kinda disagree" so I posted this hoping you give it some added thought. First Aid knowledge, too, of course. I don't want to see anyone injured.

I agree with Rick. Murphy's law and all of that. I even put together a 1st aid kit very similar to his! We have a bunch of them in different sizes, all the way up to a very large "master" kit in a large Plano tackle box! Then there's the first Aid manuals. I have several of those as well, including the manual put out for Special Forces. My favorite, however, is the one that PVG-outdoors suggested entitled "Comprehensive Guide to Wilderness and Travel Medicine" by Eric Weiss. It boasts large, easy-to-read print, yet the book itself is small enough to fit in a cargo pocket, or other spots you might think of. I think of the Boy Scouts training in 1st Aid where they were taught to use their neckerchief's for tourniquets, or to tie splints cut from tree branches, and so on. I always advise everybody to take both a 1st Aid & CPR Course; Your local chapter of the Red Cross should offer them. It's up to you, of course, however I'm reminded of the old saying "People don't plan to fail, they fail to plan." :yes:

[heysmithy]

heysmithy - I view First Aid as Better to have it and not need it than to...well, you know. I think all of the stuff we tote around is useless unless you need it. A severe injury could be less severe with the proper stuff handy. I have a pretty fat first aid kit I drag everywhere because you just never know. I know you "kinda disagree" so I posted this hoping you give it some added thought. First Aid knowledge, too, of course. I don't want to see anyone injured.

Well if you had the goal of provoking some added thought, you can consider that a mission success! For me at least, anyway.

But no matter how fast the little hamster in my head keeps peddling, I just can't think of any "first aid" situation that I couldn't recover from with just the few items I listed. Neosporin, gauss, Celox, and uppers. (I normally only carry the neosporin, and would concede that I could be better prepared than that). Beyond that I can't think of anything in a first aid kit that's really gonna be much use. At least not unless you've got diabetes or asthma or some other illness that needs specialized care, then of course you would carry stuff for that.

Maybe I'm just thinking like that because I normally have other stuff that helps with first aid, like duct tape. I can't tell you how many injuries I've patched up with cotton balls and duct tape. And not because I didn't have a thousand bandaids available in a nearby first aid kit, but just because the bandaids seemed insufficient.

[crashdive123]

When I was hiking and was swarmed by Southern Yellow Jackets I was glad I had some Benadryl in my first aid kit. I'm not allergic, but then again before that time I had never been stung that many times.

[hunter63]

You are a bunch of funny guys! For some of you, I think my X-wives were more prepared and could come up with better answers than you all did!

A funny Bunch!

Lip Balm, Tic-Tacs, and a tampon.

Oh, and I can't forget, The correct mental state and Mind to use them so as to not get bored or panic.

HA HA HA!!!

WC

Well, you didn't say anything about our wives in the OP.

If that was the case, I wouldn't need nothin'.......all I have to do is say is "Honey, you wouldn't happen to have a 9/16 box end off-set wrench, a 8 x 10 tarp, and a 3 pound dog in that there purse do ya?......"Yeah, thanks, here you can put the 30-06 back for now".....

BTW, a jar of Carmex and a package of tissue, works like a the cotton balls and PJ, as tinder......I used these for years, before I found out that, to survive, you need the cotton balls and PJ.........Saw it on the interweb.

[Rick]

Smitty - As I said, if it works for you. I missed one of my grand daughter's softball tournaments this year. I ALWAYS carry three chemical cold compresses for when they get hit with a pitch as well and a myriad of other items. The one I missed one girl was hit in the face with a line drive and had no face protection. Another received a possible broken neck in a collision at home plate. Both required evac. You just never know. If you gave it some thought and are happy with what you have so am I.

[Rick]

SD - I was surprised at your post. You have really embraced the PLB. I think that's a good thing, by the way. I just hope it's never a needed item out where you are.

[finallyME]

3 things huh....

Well, I got 4. :)

1. Knife
2. water container that I can boil with
3. fire starter
4. cordage

All can be improvised, but I see them as the hardest for me to replace.

[Wildthang]

I think the 3 basics things that is key to survival would be:

1. Belt canteen kit

2. Fire Steel or lighter

3. Knife

And a bunch of good luck!

[mountainmark]

I'm not sure, it would depend on the conditions but in some climates I would think it would be easier to construct a container to boil in than to construct a water proof shelter. If I only had three items in my neck of the woods I would think I would take

1. a knife
2. a source of fire
3. a tarp (this could double as a means of collecting rain water.)

In a dry climate I would take the water container.

[kyratshooter]

Fire is not a true necessity, it is a comfort. Many people here that have been in the military can attest to the fact that is is not needed for survival, even in harsh conditions, and can actually lead to your death in certain circmstances. Fire is just one aspect of the shelter system.

One needs shelter, water, food in close to that order depending on the environment. The cutting edge, in one form or another, being the tool used to provide those things.

It all goes back to the rule of threes.

3 minutes without air
3 hours without shelter
3 days without water
3 weeks without food

[Power Giant]

I like this thread. It is interesting and informative, in more ways than one. Too bad the OP isn't here to share anymore. In my region, fresh water is a non-issue because there is so much of it. The same with meat and building materials. So, my 3 things were shaped for this region, and reflect my abilities as well.

1. .22LR, with a loaded magazine. (to procure meat)
2. Machete (to butcher meat and build shelter)
3. Fire starter (to build fire to cook meat and stay warm)

[old2531]

oh if your commercial plain crashed your screwed cant even bring tweesers on board let alone a pocket knife , and sadly folgers now uses plastic tubs not cans fire starting devices arnt allowed in pockets either lol

[Delta 5168]

See there ya, go, the numbers are already getting hedged...
Does a "Kit" constitute an item.?....Does a Glock..45 include ammo?....Is a motor home not count?

I agree with WC orginal list.... as a thought provoking drill, and I'm sure would work for him.
Quote>
A Good Knife
A Way to make Fire
A container to boil in, Such as a Canteen cup or Folgers coffie can.
<Quote

But I could argue a boat sinking in the ocean might change this list....... yep, Hunter, you can have ammo. A Glock without ammo is a Rock:laugh:

[hunter63]

yep, Hunter, you can have ammo. A Glock without ammo is a Rock:laugh:

Yeah, well sorta a plastic rock.......
I want one of the old cowboy guns, thay always threw their gun when they ran out of the 320 shots they had.....That gonna account for something, wheel gun all the way.

[kyratshooter]

Yeah, well sorta a plastic rock.......
I want one of the old cowboy guns, thay always threw their gun when they ran out of the 320 shots they had.....That gonna account for something, wheel gun all the way.

Two wheel guns!

So I can take out the cylinders, make a bicycle and roll out of there!

Old2431 are you planning on restarting every dead thread WSF has in the archives or only the ones 5 years old or less?

How many people actually survive the crash of a commercial flight anyway? Most are at landing or takeoff with the tower watching and end in a firey trail of dead bodies a mile long. No real need for a "kit" there.

When trouble starts at 30,000 feet over the Sonora desert or north pole, out of sight of quick response, a jet don't normally settle down like a mallard on a pond.

SOOO don't worry about the firestarting devices, you're already on fire when you hit the ground.

If you change brands from Folgers you can still get a metal can.

[old2531]

sorry no just back reading them all and i forget and answer them lol ,as far as folgers goes i normaly buy what i can afford and its not folgers

[Delta 5168]

ok you broke me down

#1 Marilyn Monroe
#2 Pam Anderson
#3 Anna Nicole Smith Hope you and Pam survive well, Marilyn and ANS are, both, deceased. Select two more. I like your thinking!

[kyratshooter]

Hope you and Pam survive well, Marilyn and ANS are, both, deceased. Select two more. I like your thinking!

I developed a strong aversion to crazy women just before and during a divorce back in 1993.

Not all women, just the crazy ones, and these three top the all time historical crazy list.

Marylin would now be 86, do you really need that?

After 48 hours Anna Nicole woudl be a 47 year old junkie in deep withdrawal, do you need that?

Pamela Anderson would undoubtedly be out searching for some tatooed canibal beating on a hollow log, do you need that?

Now we have a new crop of celebrity crazies and men are still fanticizing about them.

We have plenty of good WSF women around here that can sart a fire without matches, cook up a mouse and maggot meal and build a brush hut in an hour and never whine. make you wish death would come quickly or blame you for the situation. Not unless the situation was your fault anyway!

[finallyME]

I developed a strong aversion to crazy women just before and during a divorce back in 1993.

Not all women, just the crazy ones, and these three top the all time historical crazy list.

Marylin would now be 86, do you really need that?

After 48 hours Anna Nicole woudl be a 47 year old junkie in deep withdrawal, do you need that?

Pamela Anderson would undoubtedly be out searching for some tatooed canibal beating on a hollow log, do you need that?

Now we have a new crop of celebrity crazies and men are still fanticizing about them.

We have plenty of good WSF women around here that can sart a fire without matches, cook up a mouse and maggot meal and build a brush hut in an hour and never whine. make you wish death would come quickly or blame you for the situation. Not unless the situation was your fault anyway!


Well put. Just sayin....

[crashdive123]

I kind of like some of the older threads being resurrected.

[randyt]

Ya know guys, the whole thread is theoretical, sooooo theoretically all three of the women I chose are alive, well and still in their prime. LOL.

[hunter63]

I have to tell ya, that all seem to be high maintenance, and a PITA to deal with.
Might want "visit", but not sure I would want to put up with them........LOL

[randyt]

maybe I should have included Ruth on my list, LOL. Yup, "visits" are good.

[hunter63]

I've been trying to be good.....LOL
Ruth is Hot, ya know.....

[randyt]

ah-ha Hunter, I knew I could get your attention by mentioning Ruth, LOL.

[crashdive123]

This Ruth?:whistling:

http://www.heralddeparis.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/buzzi2.jpg

[randyt]

Oh my, that's about a wet blanket moment.

[crashdive123]

What? You don't think Ruth Buzzi is hot?

[randyt]

a wet cold blanket!!!!!!

[rebel]

Is that a dude?

[hunter63]

This Ruth?:whistling:

http://www.heralddeparis.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/buzzi2.jpg

LOL....wrong Ruth......

[crashdive123]

You must mean this one then. Definitely had a hot streak.

http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/images/11/2008/07/Babe_Ruth.jpg

[birdman6660]

I am a new member of this site, but not new to self sufficiency and the survivor DNA that most of us possess.

I must say, I am very impressed with this site and its information. I feel that quite a few of you guys could make it home or to your Safe place during a SHTF occurance using your knowledge and wearing your clothes of the day with empty pockets.

But when it all comes down to it, What three items do you feel will keep you alive the longest for any enviornment, or situation. What Three items do you feel are non-negotiable Keep alive items and should be consitered a true GIFT to the survivor. These THREE ITEMS could be done without for a while, but would be your #1 priority to find or make.

These THREE ITEMS would be a total Gift to me and would Totally make my life easier.

A Good Knife
A Way to make Fire
A container to boil in, Such as a Canteen cup or Folgers coffie can.

Some will have a different "Three Items" and I am interested in what they might be,

You only get "3"
good warm hiking boots
warm clothing
fire

anything else can be acquired !

[cbr6fs]

In no particular order.

Mobile Phone
Wallet
Keys

[kyratshooter]

Wasn't there something about a jug of wine, a loaf of bread and something else???

Probably a Mosin or an AK or a Mora or something...

[ifyoudare]

I choose

My Aussie Survival Tool which is a flint fire starter;
My camp oven;
A Solar or Windy Torch with which to read my book!

[BENESSE]

Wasn't there something about a jug of wine, a loaf of bread and something else???

Probably a Mosin or an AK or a Mora or something...

It was Wine, Women & Song.
(I'll make a substitution there but otherwise not bad.)

[hunter63]

It was Wine, Women & Song.
(I'll make a substitution there but otherwise not bad.)

I thought it was "A Jug of wine, and loaf of bread and thou"...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubaiyat_of_Omar_Khayyam

Quote>

Quatrain XII in his 5th edition:[2]


"A Book of Verses underneath the Bough,
A Jug of Wine, a Loaf of Bread--and Thou
Beside me singing in the Wilderness--
Oh, Wilderness were Paradise enow


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