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Johnnybugout
04-11-2012, 02:17 AM
Just wondering what everyones thoughts on what items would be the best to stockpile that could be used for bartering when SHTF?

Pal334
04-11-2012, 06:11 AM
Seems that toilet paper will be a valuable comodity

your_comforting_company
04-11-2012, 06:33 AM
Sweet tea, black pepper, and food. In that order.

crashdive123
04-11-2012, 06:47 AM
I barter now whenever I can.

What sort of situation do you envision for your shtf scenario? How long does this scenario play out? I don't purposely stock up on "barter" items, but I do have a lot of things that people might need.

Wildthang
04-11-2012, 07:27 AM
So far, the only thing I stock up on for bartering is ammo because it will always increase in price, and I feel it may be hard to get someday. I'm not sure when the SHTF will happen if ever, but I know ammo will always be worth at least what you pay for it, maybe a lot more.

Rick
04-11-2012, 07:32 AM
Why barter something that could be used against you? Guns, knives and ammo are off my barter list. If they need ammo you know they are out (or low) so they aren't in a real good position to cause you grief. Load them up with ammo and they may be back to take the rest. Just a thought.

crashdive123
04-11-2012, 08:07 AM
Yeah, ammunition and weapons are not on my list of barter items for the sort of scenario that I suspect the OP was referring to. I have used them though, during times of normalcy, to trade....that's how I picked up quite a bit of my knife making gear.

cowgirlup
04-11-2012, 08:39 AM
Just wondering what everyones thoughts on what items would be the best to stockpile that could be used for bartering when SHTF?

Learn some useful skills. Always needed and no one can take them from you.


That being said we don't buy much in the way of barter items. Our town has a freecycle area at the town recycling center. I've picked up manual can openers, some childrens clothes, decent camping gear and books that I keep around just in case. I would hesitate to barter food because you don't want to be known as the person with the food stockpile. Quick way to become a target.

intothenew
04-11-2012, 09:00 AM
I'm with cowgirlup, skills. But take one step back from that and think of it as what it is, a business. Who will your clientele be? What will your clientele need? How can your clientele pay? Then develop the skills to suit.

Sparky93
04-11-2012, 10:03 AM
Start putting auto parts in the front yard, if you get enough parts you don't have to mow the grass and there is always going to be somebody needing something for their old truck that just blew the water pump or what have you lol... you think I'm joking, but I'm speaking of my buddies house.... no joke....

flatlander88
04-11-2012, 10:37 AM
Learn some useful skills. Always needed and no one can take them from you.


That being said we don't buy much in the way of barter items. Our town has a freecycle area at the town recycling center. I've picked up manual can openers, some childrens clothes, decent camping gear and books that I keep around just in case. I would hesitate to barter food because you don't want to be known as the person with the food stockpile. Quick way to become a target.

Good point. My goal is to take care of my family, only. I do have things that they don't know about just for the simple fact that I don't want people coming over and "needing" this or that. I can use my resources as needed so I can make them last as long as I can.

Wildthang
04-11-2012, 11:14 AM
Why barter something that could be used against you? Guns, knives and ammo are off my barter list. If they need ammo you know they are out (or low) so they aren't in a real good position to cause you grief. Load them up with ammo and they may be back to take the rest. Just a thought.

First of all I wouldn't barter with just anybody off the street. I have enough close neighbors and family around here that would support the bartering.
If I ever had to barter with strangers, I have a plan for that as well. Ammo will be extremely valuable in a SHTF even, and would be worth some risk. I would either have full control of the situation, or no barter.
There are ways of maintaining control, beleive me!

Thaddius Bickerton
04-11-2012, 11:42 AM
Barter is a way of life here in poor south Appalachians.

For post appoclyapitc world barter any small portable items would be of high value for barter.

Bic lighters and p38 can openers for example.
It would totally stink to have a can of beans and no means to open it, and hot food is better than cold beans IMHO.

Hot sauce and other condiments and spices

difficult to manufacture items like needles and fish hooks and fishing monofiliment.

Comfort / luxury items like alchol / cigarets n tobbaco / make-up for women / womens monthly needs / combs n brushes n tooth brushes n toothpaste/ soap (although I consider soap part of medecine as much as comfort, etc.

Ask yourself what you commonly need, or would need in grubby times and would have a impossible time making it and is small and portable and of low enough cost to be worth trading for say a loaf of bread Those are your small change items.

Ask yourself what larger items / skills you can trade for larger items like a cow or horse.

As for PM's (precuios metals) that is a whole other can of worms. My oldest son (the metal worker) he will often barter his work for "junk silver coins" over current FRN's in payment, and can then report his payment in terms of the face value of the still legal tender. 20 dollars face value pre 1964 coins is a lot less than what they could be sold for silver value, but as legal tender he can write up the bill of sale / reciept for the face value. Win win win.

Just a few tips, and before some legal eagle chimes in about the silver, I know the pitfalls and loop holes, but if you want to share it for the unknowing, please feel free. Done right payment in speci works, done wrong or on to large a scale and you draw big brothers attention, and legal or not he will ruin you with court fees and his thug enforcers.

Rick
04-11-2012, 12:41 PM
Now I have this vision of you rolling around on the ground trying to bite the lid off a can of beans.

Wildthang
04-11-2012, 12:55 PM
Now I have this vision of you rolling around on the ground trying to bite the lid off a can of beans.

You need a buck tooth girlfriend for that!

Seniorman
04-11-2012, 01:11 PM
Why barter something that could be used against you? Guns, knives and ammo are off my barter list. If they need ammo you know they are out (or low) so they aren't in a real good position to cause you grief. Load them up with ammo and they may be back to take the rest. Just a thought.

Never wiser words were spoken!

I remember many years ago attending a "Survival Expo" in Los Angeles. One of the "vendors" was a man who was very well known -- and considered at that time as a "radical" by some -- named Kurt Saxon. I stopped at Saxon's table where several people were gathered. On the table, along with his books, was a Ruger Super Blackhawk .44 Magnum revolver, and a small stack of gold double eagles. Saxon was talking about how important it was to be prepared with many items, etc.. including firearms.

One man said he did not own a gun and that if TSHTF, he'd use his gold to buy a gun and ammo. Saxon looked at him and said, "Okay, you come to me with your gold to buy my gun, huh?"

The man nodded and said, "Yes."

Saxon smiled slightly, picked up the .44 Magnum and said, "Guess who's going to end up with the gun ... and the gold?"

The man finally got the point.

I won't sell, barter, or give someone something with which he can use to kill me and take my goods. :no:

S.M.

Wildthang
04-11-2012, 02:09 PM
Well I'll tell you this, if I run low on food for my family, or need supplies really bad, I am not going to hide from a bunch of outlaws and do without, or let my family starve. I will find a way to deal with them, they may not like it, but there are ways to handle people like that.
The old saying that only the strong survives, has some truth!

Johnnybugout
04-11-2012, 02:37 PM
I agree with everyones comments, some things that I like to keep a cache of are Cigarettes (although I think its a nasty habit) once SHTF they wont be manufacturing things like this, but people will be craving them. A few other things that I have would be sugar,batteries,emergency candles....Now as far as the ammunition, I can see the positives and negatives, but I guarantee I have several different locations with a cache of firearms and ammunition....I can also guarantee that when someone does come to barter with me they will have more guns pointing at them that they dont know about than they can have pointing at me!:devil:

hunter63
04-11-2012, 05:18 PM
...................................Now as far as the ammunition, I can see the positives and negatives, but I guarantee I have several different locations with a cache of firearms and ammunition....I can also guarantee that when someone does come to barter with me they will have more guns pointing at them that they dont know about than they can have pointing at me!:devil:

Bad guys generally run in packs, taking the cowards way.....Better....Make sure you have back up.

Personally I don' got no guns or ammo....so no trouble here.....

mwp
04-11-2012, 05:26 PM
Fortunately I live in a small town and most folks know each other. That being said I will barter anything I have that I feel that I have more than my family will use. I will however be careful in who I tade ammo or drink with and then only in small amounts. I try to have extra meds, food and a few extra garden tools for those that I feel will put into good use.
Who would have thought we would be here this quick

Rick
04-11-2012, 07:06 PM
Who would have thought we would be here this quick

It doesn't take long to get twenty posts. Getting twenty posts ON SUBJECT now that's a steed of a different hue.

jcullen24
04-11-2012, 08:14 PM
Liquor;
The Universal currency. It's the duct tape of Bartering! Drink it, use it as an antiseptic.
Soak it in bandages and use it as a torch. Run your car off it!

Somebody said something about a can opener. Get a Swiss Army Knife, put it on your key chain so you always have it on you!
You can abrase a can on a piece of cement until the lid is worn down. Just keep making circles with it, and the friction will wear the lid off!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHxJfWTyHgA

Johnnybugout
04-12-2012, 10:40 AM
Fortunately I live in a small town and most folks know each other. That being said I will barter anything I have that I feel that I have more than my family will use. I will however be careful in who I tade ammo or drink with and then only in small amounts. I try to have extra meds, food and a few extra garden tools for those that I feel will put into good use.
Who would have thought we would be here this quick

Just be careful, never know who you can trust in this situation, even if you've known them all your life. I personally have a small group of people that I have compiled with different skills that I can work with when SHTF, yet I still have two other backup plans just in case. :detective:

gitaway
04-12-2012, 12:04 PM
I'm wiht Johnny bugout - cigarettes, sugar, batteries, candles.

Wildthang
04-12-2012, 01:31 PM
Other than ammo, I think food, water, gasoline, and diesel will be on the top of the barter list. Their are lots of other items good for bartering, but that is the top 4 things people truly need to survive.

Here is a list of in my opinion, will be the top 100 things to dissapear first. No list is 100 percent accurate because different people need different things, but it's a pretty good list!

1. Generators
2. Water Filters/Purifiers
3. Portable Toilets
4. Seasoned Firewood.
5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps
6. Coleman Fuel and propane tanks
7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots, weapons in general!
8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
10. Rice - Beans - Wheat-corn meal
11. Vegetable Oil
12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly)
13. Water Containers
14. Mini Heater head (Propane)
15. Grain Grinder (Non-electric)
16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.
17. Survival Guide Book.
18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc.
19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.
20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)
21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)
22. Vitamins
23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder
24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.
25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms)
26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item)
28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)
29. Garbage Bags
30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed
32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST)
33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST)
34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit
35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)
37. First aid kits
38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates)
39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)
41. Flour, yeast & salt
42. Matches. {"Strike Anywhere" preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first
43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators
44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.)
45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts
46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, "No. 76 Dietz" Lanterns
47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times)
48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels)
49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc
50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient)
51. Fishing supplies/tools
52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams
53. Duct Tape
54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes
55. Candles
56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)
57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags
58. Garden tools & supplies
59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies
60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.
61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite)
62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax)
63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel
64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc
65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats
66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)
67. Board Games, Cards, Dice
68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer
69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets
70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks)
71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water)
72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.
73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)
74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)
75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase
76. Reading glasses
77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch
78. "Survival-in-a-Can"
79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens
80. Survival handbooks and wild edible giudes
81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)
82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky
83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts
84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts
85. Lumber (all types)
86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)
87. Cots & Inflatable mattress's
88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.
89. Lantern Hangers
90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts
91. Teas
92. Coffee
93. Cigarettes
94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,)
95. Paraffin wax
96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, motor oils and lubricants
97. Chewing gum/candies
98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)
99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs
100. Goats/chickens

Rick
04-12-2012, 02:03 PM
Your opinion is pretty good.

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?2324-100-things-to-disappear-first&highlight=items+disappear

hunter63
04-12-2012, 02:26 PM
Wow looks like y'all think alike....?

crashdive123
04-12-2012, 02:46 PM
...and opinions that are copied and pasted should really give credit to the original sources to avoid plagiarism charges. http://www.thepowerhour.com/news/items_disappearfirst.htm

hunter63
04-12-2012, 04:00 PM
This list has been quoted in just about any forum that has annthing to do with survivial as i hasve ssen it many times before, not sure who the orginal author is/was, but a search of '100 things to disappear first" will turn up a whole bunch of sites....
Example:

http://www.shtfplan.com/emergency-preparedness/when-shtf-these-100-items-will-disappear-first_06032010

crashdive123
04-12-2012, 04:17 PM
Yeah - plagiarism probably isn't a real concern I suppose. I wonder how many individuals that have posted this in the myriad of survival sites have tried to pass it off as "their" list rather than a comprehensive list that they have seen.

hunter63
04-12-2012, 04:26 PM
Seems a lot of discussion by people disagreeing with the list as is....But hey nothing wrong having your own list...and draw from as many sources as possible.

But, yeah, even if you don't know where it came from a little..."Hey, lookie what I found on thus and such...."

Rick
04-12-2012, 04:40 PM
All I can say is I'm just glad nude beaches are not on the list.

Winter
04-12-2012, 10:15 PM
Bartering, hmmmmm.

I'd never barter weapons to unknown entities.

Food, batteries, canteens, backpacks, you name it.

I don't have a problem, like Sourdough, but I do love gear. :)

Johnnybugout
04-13-2012, 01:45 AM
Well as far as the copy and paste thing, hey, were a community of survivalist's and I'm sure that author would love to know that we are viewing his list and you saved me from having to google it, so thanks! Bartering is going to be my last option, as I'm preparing for it so I should be ok for a few years in ALL area's!

Rick
04-13-2012, 03:46 AM
No plan survives the enemy.

LowKey
04-13-2012, 09:50 PM
If all you guys are hoarding the same things for barter, the one that's coming out ahead is the one hoarding other things.
And I'm not tellin'
:D

This list makes me LOL. It is a weird amalgam of things that will last for short term or long term, or be useful in the long term, but it's not a list of things that will 'run out first'. And there are curious inclusions of throw-away items. Whenever possible, items for long term should be built to last. Paper plates???
Here's that same list re-sorted. With snide comments.

Things that will be useless once hydrocarbon fuels are scarce.
1. Generators
6. Coleman Fuel and propane tanks
12b. Lighter Fluid (uh, you really need this to light your charcoal there city boy?)
14. Mini Heater head (Propane)
16. Propane Cylinders
21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene) just get yourself a good woodburner. learn how to build a bake oven.
23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder
28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal) (you'll have plenty of empties)
95. Paraffin wax
96. motor oils and lubricants

Stupid things that have planned obsolescence:
2. Water Filters/Purifiers
18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc.
46. LIGHTSTICKS & torches, (I removed the Dietz lantern. That is useful)
70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks) - uh, how bout just some grannyware or better, melamine plates cups and bowls. Have you ever worn out a fork or spoon? No toss-away mindsets here.
81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)- You can use these once. Are you gonna leave this on all year? Go one better and get the silverized bubble wrap greenhouse insulation. It will at least last years. If you want the light, plain bubble wrap works.
87. Cots & Inflatable mattresses - ? what's wrong with your own bed and mattress? Gonna patch that rubber *****?

useful items
3. Portable Toilets - but not the chemical kind. Either composting ($$$) or ones with fresh water flush.
5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps - but you will have to learn to make wicks and possibly use tallow.
7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots, weapons in general! - you forgot reloading equipment!
8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
13. Water Containers
15. Grain Grinder (Non-electric)
20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry) - you forgot washtubs!
26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms) several many pairs if you live in a cold climate
32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST) - a bigger must is a place to plant them and knowledge of how to grow, preserve and save seed for next year. People who supply garden-in-a-cans are underestimating the amount of seed needed for a food supply, and the size of the plot needed to grow it. Try it now, without the emergency. It ain't easy.
34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit (not sure what this is but might be useful)
33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST) - why is this a Must? Any bush or treebranch dries clothes...
44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.)
45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts
46. Flashlights/"No. 76 Dietz" Lanterns
48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels) - but not for potable water. The plastics are not safe for food or water. Better would be the plastic rain catcher barrels with hose spigots. You could rig a shower with one of those. Again most are not safe for holding potable water supplies.
54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes
57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags
58. Garden tools & supplies
59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies
62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax) - Lots of jars, get reusable lids and lots of gaskets, wax is a short term consumable
50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient)
51. Fishing supplies/tools
63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel
64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc
65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats
67. Board Games, Cards, Dice
72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.
74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)
76. Reading glasses - lots and lots of these.
79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens
84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts
85. Lumber (all types)
86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)
88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.
89. Lantern Hangers
90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts
96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws (duplicate of above, removed the motor oil and lubricants)
99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs
100. Goats/chickens

Perishable supplies- better start sourcing alternatives
9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
10. Rice - Beans - Wheat-corn meal
11. Vegetable Oil
22. Vitamins
31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed
35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
41. Flour, yeast & salt
60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.
61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite) - note only good for about 1 year in storage. Loses strength.
75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase
77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch
82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky
83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts
91. Teas
92. Coffee
94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,) -Bribes?
97. Chewing gum/candies

Non-replenishable consumables - better start thinking of alternatives...
19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.
24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.
27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty
29. Garbage Bags
30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)
37. First aid kits
38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates) - screw the expiration dates. Get rechargeable and get a solar charger. Still won't last forever though.
42. Matches. {"Strike Anywhere" preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first - yes they will - add a firesteel of some kind.
43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators
47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times)- when you have the time...
49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc
52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams
53. Duct Tape
66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)
68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer
69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets
71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water)
73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)
93. Cigarettes

Odds and Ends
4. Seasoned Firewood. - unless there is a massive human die-off you can expect existing forests and anything burnable to be gone after the first winter. You may be fighting for the wood your house is made of.
12. Charcoal, - learn to make your own.
17. Survival Guide Book. - I'd suggest more than one.
40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food) - dog food is a perishable consumable. What will you feed them when you run out?
55. Candles - learn to make your own
56. Laundry Detergent (liquid) Learn to make your own soap.
78. "Survival-in-a-Can" - not sure what this is, but anything inside it should be redundant to what you already have.
80. Survival handbooks and wild edible giudes - ah, here are more books with plant guides added. Wise move.
98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing) - WTF?

Rick
04-13-2012, 10:35 PM
You are just soooo cynical. That last time I was in a volcano eruption my atomizer probably saved my life. If I hadn't been able to spritz myself every few seconds I would probably have burst into flames.

hunter63
04-14-2012, 11:36 AM
Yeah, well there is THAT........

Anyway, lots of wisdom, and thought there, Low Key........In some of the earlier posting of this list, contained many comments, and sometimes that proved to be more helpful than the LIST.

Now my thinking:
Lists in general, are a easy way to convince your self that you have actually done something.
(like buying a book and not reading it, or adding to "Favorites bar" to read later)

Lists are a good memory or thought jogger.

Lists are only as good as your needs....although women's feminine products seem to be favorable for wound dressing....(did it seem like the LIST lacked first aid supplies?...... or at least wasn't really highlighted too much?)

Lists are to be discussed, changed, added to.

Lists are helpful for older people if you can remember where you put it.........

Now before you forget where you put this LIST.......print it out and start making your alterations....BUT only after you have actually DONE the items on your list.....

jcullen24
04-14-2012, 12:16 PM
40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food) - dog food is a perishable consumable. What will you feed them when you run out?

Looters / Tresspassers! :nod:

Wildthang
04-14-2012, 01:50 PM
Other than ammo, I think food, water, gasoline, and diesel will be on the top of the barter list. Their are lots of other items good for bartering, but that is the top 4 things people truly need to survive.

Here is a list of in my opinion, will be the top 100 things to dissapear first. No list is 100 percent accurate because different people need different things, but it's a pretty good list!

1. Generators
2. Water Filters/Purifiers
3. Portable Toilets
4. Seasoned Firewood.
5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps
6. Coleman Fuel and propane tanks
7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots, weapons in general!
8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
10. Rice - Beans - Wheat-corn meal
11. Vegetable Oil
12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly)
13. Water Containers
14. Mini Heater head (Propane)
15. Grain Grinder (Non-electric)
16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.
17. Survival Guide Book.
18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc.
19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.
20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)
21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)
22. Vitamins
23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder
24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.
25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms)
26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item)
28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)
29. Garbage Bags
30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed
32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST)
33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST)
34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit
35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)
37. First aid kits
38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates)
39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)
41. Flour, yeast & salt
42. Matches. {"Strike Anywhere" preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first
43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators
44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.)
45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts
46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, "No. 76 Dietz" Lanterns
47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times)
48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels)
49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc
50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient)
51. Fishing supplies/tools
52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams
53. Duct Tape
54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes
55. Candles
56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)
57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags
58. Garden tools & supplies
59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies
60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.
61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite)
62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax)
63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel
64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc
65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats
66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)
67. Board Games, Cards, Dice
68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer
69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets
70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks)
71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water)
72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.
73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)
74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)
75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase
76. Reading glasses
77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch
78. "Survival-in-a-Can"
79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens
80. Survival handbooks and wild edible giudes
81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)
82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky
83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts
84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts
85. Lumber (all types)
86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)
87. Cots & Inflatable mattress's
88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.
89. Lantern Hangers
90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts
91. Teas
92. Coffee
93. Cigarettes
94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,)
95. Paraffin wax
96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, motor oils and lubricants
97. Chewing gum/candies
98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)
99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs
100. Goats/chickens
101. Nude Beaches

Rick
04-14-2012, 02:13 PM
101. Nude Beaches....Well, the upside is me and my camera won't be thrown off of any more. Those folks can get pretty surly.

crashdive123
04-14-2012, 02:49 PM
101. Nude Beaches

Every time I take a shower.

Rick
04-14-2012, 07:15 PM
Way too much information. Waaaaaaaay too much information.

Crash showers on the beach....another reason not to visit Florida. The list is getting mighty long.

Thaddius Bickerton
04-14-2012, 10:01 PM
Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food) - dog food is a perishable consumable. What will you feed them when you run out?

left over milk from the goats that isn't drunk or turned into cheese.
garden scraps
table scraps
mutant zombies if they will eat em.
gut piles / butcher remains
Let them out to hunt some on their own maybe
coyotes. They can have the whole thing, i hates coyotes
possums same as above
Have some dry dog food for while that holds out bout a 55 gallon drum full id say. Purina is just over to guntersville, and I buy it there by the drum full.
Fish

My dogs are working dogs and earn their keep.

As a final dog is edible. (found that out in the corp when up on the korean dmz) Still got combat pay even in the 80's only place at the time to get it. No shots fired in anger.

williamblackraven
04-15-2012, 05:33 AM
well knowing how to make soap will give you permanent bartering potential. but as far as stockpiling, well toothpaste and tooth brushes would be a good start. also coffee.

Rick
04-15-2012, 07:46 AM
Nope. Uh huh. Nobody is touchin' my coffee. It's mine, all mine, I tell ya!

crashdive123
04-15-2012, 07:49 AM
I store a lot of coffee. I'd gladly share a pot of coffee with somebody, but giving coffee away????? Kind of like asking a vampire for their blood supply.

hunter63
04-15-2012, 11:11 AM
Have you ever kept something for a long time,..... gonna need it someday.......only to decide that you have a chance to sell it and maybe make a buck, or just make room.....
THEN the very next DAY, you find that you need it and cost you double or they don't make them anymore....

So if SHTF doesn't come with a solid expiration date...like next Tuesday....coffee stay here!

Rick
04-15-2012, 11:46 AM
My exact argument to my wife about every other week. If you toss it you'll need it the day after trash day. Guaranteed!

Thaddius Bickerton
04-15-2012, 05:43 PM
sometimes I end up with to much blood in my caffeine system.

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