Fourth Annual WSF Jamboree

[crashdive123]

I know it's early, but thought some early planning might allow more people to make arrangements to attend. I'll just throw out a date and general location - these are merely suggestions. I was thinking the third weekend in October and since I am mountain deprived would opt for someplace in the mountains - maybe Tennessee? Anyway - for those that have been to one, you know that they are a lot of fun. For those that have not been to one, feel free to ask away. The bigger the bunch the better.

[jake abraham]

I would like to attend but don't know about money

[Winter]

When is it? I usually, not last yr, go to a Paratrooper Gathering and I have tagged on Survival forum camps and shoots to a few of them.

[crashdive123]

No firm date yet, although I did suggest a date and general location in the OP.

[Rick]

These things are just a hoot. I've been lucky enough to attend 2 out of the 3 previous ones and would have been at the 3rd but for some medical stuff. Late October in Tennessee should give us some cool nights and warm days to work with.

[Wildthang]

So what goes on at these gatherings? If Rick will leave his hong at home, I would consider going!

[finallyME]

I didn't know there were mountains in Tennessee. I guess if your state's highest elevation is 400 ft, then almost any state has mountains. :D

[Rick]

Here's a link to one. There are tons of pictures.

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?13864-Pictures-of-the-WSF-Brandy-Creek-Trip


A mountain in Florida is called an overpass in most other places.

[kyratshooter]

I am in. Just get the date and place firm. East TN is fine with me. Be careful planning in that area though, some of the state parks have been allowed to go on the skids and have turned into Hobo Jungles, or perhaps I was just there when a survival forum was having an outting.

We might even consider Amicalola State Park in North GA. Bueatiful park with great facilities when I was there 10 years ago.

That is the jumpoff point for the Appalation Trail at Springer Mountain. It is a fantastic site with all the mountains one could desire. It also contains sections of a U.S. Army mountain training camp, known and respected by one and all who have experienced it as as "Delonica". It has been the mountain training section of Ranger School for decades.

We could kill two birds with one stone. Everyone attending could claim hiking time on the AT and all the military BS experts could claim they had been to Delonica.

We got to see one of the 7 natural wonders of the world/ World Heritage Sites last year, perhaps a famous hikeing and military site would be good for this year.

http://www.gastateparks.org/AmicalolaFalls/

Cherokee NF is a bit closer to you Crash.
http://wiki.ask.com/Cherokee_National_Forest

Pisga is a bit farther north.
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1440&bih=648&wrapid=tlif133337548072510&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=pisgah+national+forest+camping&fb=1&gl=us&hq=pisgah+national+forest+camping&ei=A7J5T4-lCILi8gS75aCFCg&sa=X&oi=local_group&ct=image&ved=0CBQQtgM&iwloc=cids:12195370551271874892

I have no preference myself, other than the desire that you set the camp for next Feburary and have it in Orlando. Piuck a spot and if there is air in the tires and gas is still obtainable I will be there.

For those that have never been to a gathering the company might be questionalbe but the food is fantastic! You also get to put faces and voices to the screen names and that is often a shock.

[natertot]

I'm interested, but only time will tell. My wife and kids have never been camping and I need to break them into sone of the basic stuff this year.......If time permits.

[Camp10]

There is a good chance I will be a Pennsylvanian (again) by then, I might actually get to go to one!!

[RangerXanatos]

We might even consider Amicalola State Park in North GA. Bueatiful park with great facilities when I was there 10 years ago.

That is the jumpoff point for the Appalation Trail at Springer Mountain. It is a fantastic site with all the mountains one could desire. It also contains sections of a U.S. Army mountain training camp, known and respected by one and all who have experienced it as as "Delonica". It has been the mountain training section of Ranger School for decades.

We could kill two birds with one stone. Everyone attending could claim hiking time on the AT and all the military BS experts could claim they had been to Delonica.

We got to see one of the 7 natural wonders of the world/ World Heritage Sites last year, perhaps a famous hikeing and military site would be good for this year.

http://www.gastateparks.org/AmicalolaFalls/



I haven't been to Amicalola State Park yet, but it's on my list to do so.

I started this (http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?17584-November-5-6-2011-%28pic-heavy%29&p=317491#post317491) thread last year which we went by the Ranger training school outside of Dahlonega. We passed over the Appalachian Trail and were a couple of miles in National Forest and set up camp which should still be there and I doubt anyone other than us who made it have been there since. I doubt everyone would want to stay there as it is a hike in and you wouldn't want to be bringing dutch ovens and etc like you usually do. But if you're in the area, you may want to stop by just to say you've been there.

If you all decide in around North Georgia, I'll try to be there.

[crashdive123]

Thought I'd bump this up. Any more thoughts on location? I wouldn't mind another visit to Bandy Creek - the fall colors during our last trip there left a memorable impression.

[pgvoutdoors]

Count me in, it was a real let down not being able to make last years' meet-up. The two previous years were great!

[oldsoldier]

Depending on the when/ where hopefully I can make this years.

[crashdive123]

I'll do a little more research on campgrounds in the Smoky Mountains. Quite a few don't take reservations, and some that do are very popular (like Cades Cove) and book up early.

[crashdive123]

Any more thoughts on this?

[hunter63]

Still think about Oct.?
Lots of hunting seasons open.......I sure would like to drag my lodge down for the party.....

[crashdive123]

I was hoping for the third weekend in October. That's about when we have done the last two, and the fall colors in the mountains have been great. For all of the beautiful scenery here, fall colors and mountains (if you don't count over passes on the interstate) are sort of lacking. I'm still looking, but wouldn't mind Bandy Creek again. If we were to do the Mammoth Cave area again, Poco, Equus and the boys might be able to at least drop by since they live close by. He's got the new job, and she's still recovering from the horseback riding accident. I'll give them a call this weekend to see how they are doing.

[hunter63]

Thats pretty country around there.......
Most of the parks allow dogs?

[crashdive123]

Where we stayed last year - Maple Springs Campground - which is about 6 miles from the park (didn't seem that far) we stayed at a group site. Poco and Equus brought their dog. Some of the sites were designated equestrian sites. So dogs were not a problem where we stayed.

[tjwilhelm]

If I'm able to: drive, walk without crutches, and get time off from work, I'm in! With only one good arm (for the moment) I may need help setting up and breaking camp. Anyone up for giving a helping hand to a half-blind, old, cripple? I can play a pretty hot blues harmonica, and I can tell some pretty good campfire jokes! I also make pretty good bannock, and I can sharpen your knife for you...wicked shaving sharp!

[crashdive123]

Absolutely TJ - we'll take care things. All you've got to do is enjoy yourself.

[intothenew]

Location is not a problem for me, the timing could be. That's always an issue though. I would love to attend.

[kyratshooter]

Take a look at Cumberland Gap National Park Crash. All the facilities one would want (including showers) and several great spots inside the park to visit: museum/overlooks/trails. It is at the junction of KY/VA/TN

Picket State Park and Indian Mountain are also nice. They are also close to I-75 with easy access.

I am sure there are several good spots along the TN/NC area or even up into WVA.

[gryffynklm]

Cumberland and Picket are within 8 hours and a bit over a tank of gass. Definitely a possibility for me. Timing never seems to go my way.

[Willie]

I think I may be able to make it. I have one question though. How my of you bring you wives? Or wil any ladies be attending? the reason I ask is my wife would like to go with me but will need someone to talk to. Because she loves to talk!

[crashdive123]

My wife has been to two out of three. Not sure if she'll be coming this year or not. Poco (Mel) and Equus (Dottie) bring their two boys. The first year they were still in diapers. Not sure if they'll make it this year or not. All are welcome.

[natertot]

I keep checking here for the date and locations. I'm still interested, but have concerns about how the kiddos would do. The KY area is possible, just depends on timing.

[hunter63]

I'm gonna put it on my "List of thing I wanna do this year"........Will be watching.

[redneckidokie]

Do any of those places and times coincide with archery or gun deer season? That might be fun.

[Rick]

You know, that's a good question. We might want to find out 'cause the antler hats might be a problem.

[crashdive123]

Watchyou talkin bout Willis?

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[hunter63]

Do any of those places and times coincide with archery or gun deer season? That might be fun.

Yeah, and permit prices, at least for fishing......Of course a "Boom".. does a body good every so often.

[roar-k]

I have some new gear I need to test out and was displeased I missed last year's shindig. I am going to make this one even if I have to pull a wagon myself.

Potluck dinner(s) again?

[crashdive123]

What we did last year that worked rather well was to plan a menu and everybody brought a part of it. This way we didn't have 30 pounds of food left over. Looking forward to seeing you there this year.

[crashdive123]

Cumberland Gap National Park looks great, but they do not accept reservations - first come, first serve. IMO a location with group sites is desirable (but obviously not necessary). Thoughts?

[roar-k]

Cumberland Gap National Park looks great, but they do not accept reservations - first come, first serve. IMO a location with group sites is desirable (but obviously not necessary). Thoughts?

I have tons of family near Cumberland Gap and if we decide there I can have a huge breakfast cooked for us one day. Also, there's an offroad park for any ATV about 30-45 minutes away. It's quite awesome. I also have access to shooting range about 30 minutes away.

There's more to do around Cumberland Gap than people think.

[crashdive123]

The problem I see with that location is not things to do, but rather not being able to make reservations.

[Willie]

Cumberland Gap National Park looks great, but they do not accept reservations - first come, first serve. IMO a location with group sites is desirable (but obviously not necessary). Thoughts?
http://www.nps.gov/cuga/planyourvisit/camping.htm crash this link says they have group sites and take res. Up to 3months in advance.

[crashdive123]

I missed that - thanks. If we can get a site - I'm OK with Cumberland. Mountains and fall colors are my preference, and it looks like both can be accommodated there. What says everybody else. If we pick Cumberland we'll have to wait until July to make reservations. I can call them this week and see how quickly their group sites book up.

Not trying to push one place over another - just would like us to lock in a place so folks can do some longer range planning.

[roar-k]

I say go for it if you get the okay from 1-2 more people

List of Activities and Attractions near Cumberland Gap:

Wilderness Road State Park and Trail (obviously)
Pinnacle Overlook & Tri-State Peak Trail (Can stand in more than one state at a time)
Wilderness Trail Off-road Park
Middlesboro Meteorite Crater Impact Site
Gap Caverns In Cumberland Gap National Historical Park
There's about 10 other caves/caverns to visit as well The Sand Cave is really fun and it's near
Chained-Rock Trail

There's bowling lanes about 20 minutes away as well.
Lost Squadron & P38 from WWII is in Middlesboro.

Oh and the Heritage Festival is Oct 13th. The Park is a little busy during that time, but it give a little bit more to do.

[pgvoutdoors]

I've been off-site for a little while but I'm still in for this year. The Cumberland Gap area sounds good to me.

[crashdive123]

I still need to call them about reservations. I'll get that done this coming week and report back.

[crashdive123]

I spoke with someone at the visitor center today. She said sometimes they book fast and sometimes not. She did not know how many vehicles were allowed at the group sites, but said parking is fairly limited. The three month window for making reservations is a firm rule.

If this is a place that we want to shoot for, I'll try calling in July and reserve a site (don't know if we want more than one) for October 19, 20, 21.

[TresMon]

I'd love to attend, but please plan it during a gap in the TN deer hunting season if you make it fall. Deer season is a very serious time for me to get my meat for the year.

[grrlscout]

Funny thing. I was planning on visiting my family in KY in the Fall. Looks like it would be about a 3.5 hour drive from their town to the park. Depending on if I can get a car and such. I might be able to make this trip a "twofer".

The only thing is, I'm flying to KY. I'll be able to bring only a small amount of gear. :(

[crashdive123]

Funny thing. I was planning on visiting my family in KY in the Fall. Looks like it would be about a 3.5 hour drive from their town to the park. Depending on if I can get a car and such. I might be able to make this trip a "twofer".

The only thing is, I'm flying to KY. I'll be able to bring only a small amount of gear. :(

We'll have plenty of gear. Heck - last year between KRat's trailer and my truck we probably had an extra 3 tents, 5 sleeping bags, and a whoooooole bunch of other gear.

[SQWERL]

I might be able to make it. Just depends on my schedule at work. I just got released by myself on the phones (911 location of your emergency?). so if anyone has to call 911 in chattanooga you might get me. :triage: just depends on what shift they actually give me and what off days. but i hope to see you guys there.

[Winnie]

After the horrible year to date, all things considered, put me down for a tentative yes. Although I'll need to borrow gear and beg a lift.
Pssst GRS if you go, I'll bring Hobnobs.

[crashdive123]

That would be great if you could make it.

[gryffynklm]

I'm putting it on the calendar. That time of year is pretty open for me.

[roar-k]

I'd love to attend, but please plan it during a gap in the TN deer hunting season if you make it fall. Deer season is a very serious time for me to get my meat for the year.

tres,

it would be good to see you there if you can make it. man, i taste the food now. i am going to be making biscuits and gravy!

[grrlscout]

After the horrible year to date, all things considered, put me down for a tentative yes. Although I'll need to borrow gear and beg a lift.
Pssst GRS if you go, I'll bring Hobnobs.

That would be awesome! And I prefer the plain chocolate variety. :banana:

I'd have to make some mesquite pancakes :chef:

[TresMon]

Cool. Thanks Roar

[kyratshooter]

Girlscout and Winnie, just let me know and I will outfit both of you. I have gear enough to outfit three families. Tents, cots sleeping bags, extra stoves the works. Do not worry about bringing gear on the airplane.

[crashdive123]

Yep - don't let lack of gear keep anybody from coming.

[Winnie]

kyr I was going to tap you up for kit! glad you offered. I just need to start planning my itinerary now.

[crashdive123]

Great that you'll be coming Winnie. I'll call on Monday, July 2 to see if we can reserve one of the group sites.

[pgvoutdoors]

Sounds like things are starting to come together. I'm still planning on being there, of course I'll bring some extra gear for anyone that needs it. No need for anyone to worry about showing up and needing a place to sleep.

[Pocomoonskyeyes3]

OK, If I've read correctly so far, the Jamboree is scheduled for Oct. 19,20,21 at Cumberland Gap Nat'l park. Correct?

If so, Equus and I may be able to attend as well. Key words are "May be". Only my work schedule would stand in the way, but may be able to make it.

[crashdive123]

OK, If I've read correctly so far, the Jamboree is scheduled for Oct. 19,20,21 at Cumberland Gap Nat'l park. Correct?

If so, Equus and I may be able to attend as well. Key words are "May be". Only my work schedule would stand in the way, but may be able to make it.

So far that is the plan. I'm going to call on July 2nd to reserve a group site. Not sure if we want more than one - I'll keep everybody posted.

[crashdive123]

I contacted the park today to make reservations. They will not accept them outside the 90 day window, so I will call back on the 19th.

I did find out some info on the group sites though. Their website is incorrect when it says that group sites accommodate up to 30 people. The max for all but 3 of the sites is 12. The max for regular sites is 8, but you cannot make reservations for regular sites. Two sites will accommodate 18 and on site will hold 30+. The 30+ site is a little further from the "facilities". I will try and get the 30+ site on the 19th unless we want to get the two medium sites that are closer to the rest rooms. Let me know what preferences you all have.

I asked about drought conditions, and they have been getting hit hard, just as some other areas have. She wasn't sure what impact it would have on the normally spectacular fall colors since some trees were losing their leaves now.

[Winnie]

Well, I'll turn up at the designated time, date and place. The details I'll leave to you good people.

[NightShade]

I'd love to make it to a jamboree finally.... If I can make it I will, but I doubt it.... We really should think about doing one of these a little further north sometime!!! .. ;-) .. Jus' sayin'..

New England is beautiful in the fall you know!!! ;-)

[BENESSE]

We really should think about doing one of these a little further north sometime!!! .. ;-) .. Jus' sayin'..

New England is beautiful in the fall you know!!! ;-)

I'll second that!
I'd really like to be able to drive to it...too much $hit to schlep on the plane.

[2dumb2kwit]

Lets all go to Ken's house. He claims to be a great cook.

[Kamel]

an Up north trip would be great

[crashdive123]

The longest drive to a Jamboree for me was about 19 hours. I think this one is about 10 or 11 hours. Winnie will definitely be the new mileage champ after this one.

[Kamel]

Our van is a piece of crap, so if greyhound isnt to expensive, we could prolly make it. or if anyone in Minnesota is going, wed gladly pitch in gas.

[Sarge47]

Too far for me and too much $$$$ involved. I just got back from a visit to my son and family down in Oklahoma recently and have to watch my money, especially since I'm out of work over the summer. It takes several months after I'm back to catch up financially. I'm really sorry that I'll miss seeing Winnie, life sucks sometimes.:ohmy:

[kyratshooter]

Winnie will get to hit three states in 10 minutes at Cumberland Gap!

We will have to do the park museum tour, go up on the point and look out over the mountains and run down to the old town and see the bare rock face that the origional trail passed as you went through the "gap". The highway runs through a tunnel under the origional road. There is a good trip over to Wilderness Road State Historic Park in VA, about 10 miles from the Gap. They have a living history program in full force. I have done reenactments there a few times. It is a fantastic site.

[RandyRhoads]

I'd love to go back that way, but that's way too far out of my budget.

[Winnie]

I'm really looking forward to putting faces to names and mooching around.

[BornthatWay]

DH and I are trying to work it into our schedule. Will have a more definite answer in a week or two.

[crashdive123]

Awesome. Hope you can make it.

[Sourdough]

I'm really looking forward to putting faces to names and mooching around.

I was not told that there would be Smooching.

[Winnie]

Why don't you fly down and find out for yourself?

[crashdive123]

We have a reservation!

Arrival at campsite - Friday, October 19th
Departure from campsite - Sunday October 21

Here's a link to the campground http://www.nps.gov/cuga/planyourvisit/upload/WR%20Campground.pdf

The map on this link does not show site numbers, which is just as well since the map is no longer accurate according to those I spoke with. Our reservation is for Site(s) F15 and F17 which is the old O8. We can have up to 30 on this site. They would like to have an approximate head count, so I told them 20 and will update that if necessary. I'll keep tally in another post as people commit to coming. This site (old O8, new F15 and 17) is the only one that accommodates this many. Sites O2 and O5 each can hold 18, while the rest can take only 12.

Here are some addresses I was given for those using GPS to find their way.
Visitor Center
91 Barlett Park Rd
Middlesboro, KY 40965

The campgrounds are actually in Virginia. The person I spoke with said there was no address for the campgrounds, but somebody that camped there used the following.....
8506 Old Wilderness Rd
Ewing, VA

Plugging that into Google Earth brings up the entrance to the campgrounds. Also on that view, our site will be fairly close to the road - hopefully it is not a well traveled road at night.

There is only parking for two vehicles at the site, but there is a parking lot very close to it (don't remember if he said 50 ft or 50 yards)

Currently there is no burn ban, but there was a few weeks ago. I asked about firewood - don't bring it in from out of state, or even out of county. Lee County is where they would like you to get it. There are several places, one being about a mile from the visitor center.

[crashdive123]

We'll keep track of whose coming in this post as well as cooking commitments for the Saturday evening meal (if we decide to do that again).

Who's coming

Crash
Winnie

[Winnie]

Me too please

[crashdive123]

Here is the park website. Lots to do and see. http://www.nps.gov/cuga/index.htm# Not sure if Mrs. Crash is coming yet.

[Winnie]

I still can't get my head round 100 miles away classed as nearby. That's nearly half way across the country. Looks like there's plenty to do and see. Can't wait!

[Willie]

Im not going to be able to go!:crying: I won a cruise from my job and now we have to go to the caribbean for a week! Leaving first week in Aug. so I will not be able to take off in Oct.

[crashdive123]

Sorry you won't be able to make it.....you'd like the Jamboree much better, but convincing a spouse of that may prove difficult.

[Rick]

We could always go with him. Can you build a fire out on the deck?

[Winnie]

More important..... will there be Peach Cobbler?

[Rick]

I am still on the edge as to whether I'm going. I'm counting on it but the shoulders rule at this point. If I'm there I will make you peach cobbler in the dutch oven. I might even come up with a cherry cobbler to go with it.

[Winnie]

Now you look here, matey.... I'm going to be stuck in a tin can for 14 hours to get to the jamboree. If you're not there, with or without Peach Cobbler, well, lets just say I know people, who know people who know you. The old shoulder ploy won't work this year.

[Sarge47]

Im not going to be able to go!:crying: I won a cruise from my job and now we have to go to the caribbean for a week! Leaving first week in Aug. so I will not be able to take off in Oct.

Why those dirty dogs! Shoving a Caribbean Cruise down your throat! The dirty lowlifes...I'll bet they even force you to go to those sneaky midnight buffets with all of the different varieties of scrumptious chocolate goodies! You have my heart-felt sympathy Willie. If you like I can take those tickets and you can attend the Jamboree, after all, it's the least I can do! :creepy:

[crashdive123]

Rick - we'll even pitch your tent for you. Heck - we'll pitch one of those big ones and put an air mattress in it.

[Rick]

It's not the stayin', it's the drivin' that gets to 'em.

[crashdive123]

That's what they make them new fangled hands free thingies for.........or was that for phones?

[Willie]

Haha i will let you know next week when im too full to move!
Why those dirty dogs! Shoving a Caribbean Cruise down your throat! The dirty lowlifes...I'll bet they even force you to go to those sneaky midnight buffets with all of the different varieties of scrumptious chocolate goodies!

[Willie]

We could always go with him. Can you build a fire out on the deck? we could try but i dont think they would like that very much..

[crashdive123]

Here is the National Park Service site on the park. http://www.nps.gov/cuga/index.htm

There looks to be a lot of interesting things to do. Not sure if I can put this in the plans yet, but I'm going to try and swing getting there on Thursday.

[grrlscout]

I'm still a "maybe". Like a lot of folks here, I really have to watch my pennies. So I can't rent a car.

I plan on booking the visit to my family during a time that spans the Jamboree. If I can borrow a car from one of my family members, I'm in.

[BornthatWay]

Hey crash count us in. That would be me and the hubster.

[crashdive123]

Awesome.

Here are a picture of the area that I grabbed from the web.

http://destinationnexus.com/pictures/master/Cumberland-Gap-National-Park-in-Middlesboro-Kentucky-40965.jpg



Who's Coming

Crash
Winnie
Bornthatway +1

[crashdive123]

Typically we do a group meal on Saturday. If everybody wants to do that, we can start the meal planning as we get closer to the date.

Who's Coming

Crash
Winnie
Bornthatway +1

[BornthatWay]

That sounds fine to me. I hope some more sign on as we get closer to the date.

[pgvoutdoors]

OK, I had to confirm a few things, but I'm definitely in! Looking forward to getting together again.

[crashdive123]

Glad you can make it Phil.

Who's Coming

Crash
Winnie
Bornthatway +1
Pgvoutdoors

[Winnie]

Before I forget.
Does anyone want any English type things? I can bring stuff over with me. I have a few things to hand out as keepsakes, but if anyone would like anything in particular, please let me know.

[2dumb2kwit]

Before I forget.
Does anyone want any English type things? I can bring stuff over with me. I have a few things to hand out as keepsakes, but if anyone would like anything in particular, please let me know.

Pippa.:whistling:

[hunter63]

Gonna be throwing our hat into the ring, gonna give it a try, between Duck season opening and a wedding, ans a not announced archaeological dig planned,....so if a one lodge rendezvous is OK, (Krat you coming?)
In.........

[Wildthang]

I am going to hire a guy to put on a very realistic Big Foot suit, and right after you guys call it a night and crawl into your tents, he is going to come running into camp and start scaring the Bejesus out of everybody. I will also advise him to wear a bullet proof vest just to be on the safe side:scared:

[hunter63]

I am going to hire a guy to put on a very realistic Big Foot suit, and right after you guys call it a night and crawl into your tents, he is going to come running into camp and start scaring the Bejesus out of everybody. I will also advise him to wear a bullet proof vest just to be on the safe side:scared:

Yeah, well don't be suprised if ya find him staked out in the middle of the "compound" in the morning, I get grumpy if I don't get my zzzzzz's (Per DW).

[kyratshooter]

Gonna be throwing our hat into the ring, gonna give it a try, between Duck season opening and a wedding, ans a not announced archaeological dig planned,....so if a one lodge rendezvous is OK, (Krat you coming?)
In.........

If you are bringing a big white tent I will too! I took mine last year but had a "sometimers" attack and forgot the ridgerpole. I wound up sleeping in one of the little nylon domes I carry in the Jeep as emergency shelter. It sure is difficult to stand up and stomp out a cramp in one of those things!

I will even run you over to Martain's Station and let you see how we do reenactments here in the "land of the longhunters". The Gap is probably one of the 10 most important places connected to U.S. history.

As far as a guy in a "bigfoot suit", If you can find someone stupid enough to do that with this bunch have at it. Anyone here know how to skin a sesquach? We would probably explain the accidental shooting after the Rangers saw the suit.

Now keep in mind that I camped only 10 miles away back in 2003 and a mountain lion killed one of the hogs at the historic site where I was camping.

[BENESSE]

Rick in a hong would be way more frightening than big foot, on any day or night; why, even his picture is enough to make people weak in the knees.

[hunter63]

I plan on bring my 10 X10'/kitchen fly,......... I wouldn't mind "surviving", DW not so much any more, and yeah, my pack mule is Big Red....I'm not back packing.....LOL

Camped in it this last weekend, dropped it off to the tent maker to add a rear door, was hot with no breese inside, and damp.
Should be ready by Oct 1st.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/hunter63/PICT0710.jpg

Talked to Karl, he stoped by the Rondy on fri., he's still up in the air, but on his "maybe' list.

[kyratshooter]

I am not sure how big my dining fly is, 16x24 if I remember right. My wall tent is 12x12x8tall with 5 foot walls. Takes two folks to lift it out of the truck.

Last few years since the wife passed away I have only used the bell wedge. That one is 10x16 and with the fly it uses up about 30' front to back. I also have the little wedge that is 8x9. I have not used that one in 5 years.

Reminds me, I need to fix the folding rocker. If we keep on talking I will wind up pulling the big trailer instead of just driving the Cherokee.

You suppose this crew could eat a whole sesquach in one weekend or will I need to bring the extra cooler?

[hunter63]

We could just "jerk it"?.....maybe?
BTW I was thinking about bring some extra cast iron, lanterns and such..... for you know, trading stock?....
That OK?

[crashdive123]

I am going to hire a guy to put on a very realistic Big Foot suit, and right after you guys call it a night and crawl into your tents, he is going to come running into camp and start scaring the Bejesus out of everybody. I will also advise him to wear a bullet proof vest just to be on the safe side:scared:

One of the classes being held will be skinning bigfoot and pit cooking.

[crashdive123]

Who's Coming

Crash
Winnie
Bornthatway +1
Pgvoutdoors
H63 +1
Krat

[Wildthang]

Who's Coming

Crash
Winnie
Bornthatway +1
Pgvoutdoors
H63 +1
Krat
Big Foot, and this one is a Ninja so he will be hard to catch:smartass:

[randyt]

I'm going to work on my schedule. I liked the gap area before the tunnel and new road but I guess that's progress.

[hunter63]

Haven't been down that way since 1984 (I think?), for the Knoxville Worlds fair.....had car trouble the whole way, hopefully have a better trip.

[Winnie]

Pippa.:whistling:


Do you mean Nigella??

[wtrfwlr]

I would certainly like some of that English Flint that seems to be so plentiful over there,(like that church was made out of) If you could bring a couple pieces of that I would knap you an arrowhead for the trouble. I think it would be neat to work up a few arrowheads from it just for the fact that it came from England.

[kyratshooter]

Winnie, you need to bring a supply of your favorite tea. I doubt that we will have your brand over here.

Our version of "tea" involves a liquid leeched from tiney paper bags added to ice, lemons and several cups of sugar per gallon. That or roots and berries boiled up by groups of hippies.

[Winnie]

Winnie, you need to bring a supply of your favorite tea. I doubt that we will have your brand over here.

Our version of "tea" involves a liquid leeched from tiney paper bags added to ice, lemons and several cups of sugar per gallon. That or roots and berries boiled up by groups of hippies.

Not to worry, I have plenty to pack. I was forewarned about Tea.

[Winnie]

I would certainly like some of that English Flint that seems to be so plentiful over there,(like that church was made out of) If you could bring a couple pieces of that I would knap you an arrowhead for the trouble. I think it would be neat to work up a few arrowheads from it just for the fact that it came from England.

Okeydoke. I'll see what I can do.

[hunter63]

I'd like some flint as well.......still needing a candle lantern?

[Winnie]

Indeed I am H63. I'll try and get enough for a few bits and bobs.

[hunter63]

Deal.....thanks.....

[Wildthang]

Big Foot is bringing his see through hong, so you guys will be so scared, you will be helpless:smartass:

[Winnie]

Big Foot is bringing his see through hong, so you guys will be so scared, you will be helpless:smartass:

Oh yeah..... with laughter.

[Winnie]

Before I go and dig up half of Suffolk, could someone check if I can actually bring flint into the US?

[crashdive123]

In other news....

A centuries old church collapsed today. It is thought to be the work of terrorists, but nobody has claimed credit. One eyewitness stated that there was a woman running from the church just before it collapsed, screaming...gotta head to the jamboree! Authorities are doubting the accuracy of the witness.

[crashdive123]

Wtrfwlr - are you going to be able to attend?

[wtrfwlr]

Wtrfwlr - are you going to be able to attend?

Ya know Crash I have sorta overlooked this whole thread until night before last and I stopped and read through most of it and became interested. If I could get just a few things to go my way I would for sure be all in. It is not that big of a drive for me coming from Arkansas...9 hours pretty much east on I-40 through Guitar Town. This would be really fun to meet some of you folks. If Winnie brings some flint over I could knap her arrowhead while I was there.

I think I need to start in on doing this. Later in October works great too. I should have a couple deer put up by then and duck season won't come in until around middle of November.

[crashdive123]

Hope you can make it. Let us know when you know for sure and I'll add your name to the list. I'll even bring a few rocks that you might enjoy beating on.

[Wildthang]

Well don't hold me to this, but the fall outage at the refinery should be over by mid October, and if I can get away, I might just pop in. So if a 6' -3" wild Okie pulls up in a Red pickup with a Big Foot in the back of the truck, don't shoot us....................Okay? I am not one to make promises or to forewarn my intended plans, so if I pull into camp going way too fast, and shooting into the air, you will know it's me:smartass:

[crashdive123]

Bump................


Who's Coming

Crash
Winnie
Bornthatway +1
Pgvoutdoors
H63 +1
Krat

[kyratshooter]

How many foks can be on one campsite Crash?

If Hunter and me bring rondy gear we will take up more than our share of room. Do we need to spring for two sites or will they be as large as the group site last year? We could have camped an army on that site.

[Williepete]

Crash, I plan on making it, as long as I'm still living. Will there be any shooting taking place, are guns allowed there? I have not been camping for a long long time. Yes I have everything I need since I blew a wad on stuff back in '04 and have only been able to use it once. Just what goes on at one of these things besides a lot of hot air?

Bill

[crashdive123]

How many foks can be on one campsite Crash?

If Hunter and me bring rondy gear we will take up more than our share of room. Do we need to spring for two sites or will they be as large as the group site last year? We could have camped an army on that site.

This site will fit 30 (but only 2 vehicles). There is parking very close. If there are no objections (can't imagine any) one of those sites will be reserved for a member (if they can make it) that has some physical limitations. There are two group sites that accommodate 18, with the remainder of the group sites set for 12.

Who's Coming

Crash
Winnie
Bornthatway +1
Pgvoutdoors
H63 +1
Krat
Williepete

[crashdive123]

Crash, I plan on making it, as long as I'm still living. Will there be any shooting taking place, are guns allowed there? I have not been camping for a long long time. Yes I have everything I need since I blew a wad on stuff back in '04 and have only been able to use it once. Just what goes on at one of these things besides a lot of hot air?

Bill

According to the Park Website, firearms are not allowed.


Arrival at campsite - Friday, October 19th
Departure from campsite - Sunday October 21

Here's a link to the campground http://www.nps.gov/cuga/planyourvisi...Campground.pdf

The map on this link does not show site numbers, which is just as well since the map is no longer accurate according to those I spoke with. Our reservation is for Site(s) F15 and F17 which is the old O8. We can have up to 30 on this site. They would like to have an approximate head count, so I told them 20 and will update that if necessary. I'll keep tally in another post as people commit to coming. This site (old O8, new F15 and 17) is the only one that accommodates this many. Sites O2 and O5 each can hold 18, while the rest can take only 12.

Here are some addresses I was given for those using GPS to find their way.
Visitor Center
91 Barlett Park Rd
Middlesboro, KY 40965

The campgrounds are actually in Virginia. The person I spoke with said there was no address for the campgrounds, but somebody that camped there used the following.....
8506 Old Wilderness Rd
Ewing, VA

Plugging that into Google Earth brings up the entrance to the campgrounds. Also on that view, our site will be fairly close to the road - hopefully it is not a well traveled road at night.

There is only parking for two vehicles at the site, but there is a parking lot very close to it (don't remember if he said 50 ft or 50 yards)

Currently there is no burn ban, but there was a few weeks ago. I asked about firewood - don't bring it in from out of state, or even out of county. Lee County is where they would like you to get it. There are several places, one being about a mile from the visitor center.

In the past - lots of comradery, some knife/hatchet tossing, flint knapping, hiking, food sampling, exploring, napping.......an all around good time.

Who's Coming

Crash
Winnie
Bornthatway +1
Pgvoutdoors
H63 +1
Krat
Williepete

[hunter63]

What does firearms not allowed mean?....Can't use them, ......can't have them legally cased,?
I guess I need to check out the site.

OK printed it out, just the standard rules....

[Wildthang]

Okay no shooting, I can deal with that, but are Bigfoots allowed?

[hunter63]

So reading thru the regs from tha camp ground, says ya can't bring firewood....actually this is a good idea....so I was wondering if ya all are cooking on the camp stoves, wood fires (buy wood there?) etc.

Those little stoves kinda suck for sitting around and spinning yarns......?

[pgvoutdoors]

We have in the past just purchased wood from the park for the campfire. We have cooked on the fire as well as camp stoves.

[crashdive123]

If there is no fire ban, there will be fire! Cooking, coffee and telling tall tales.....oh - and tea too.

[Rick]

The Emerald Ash Borer has gone bonkers in the Midwest and most counties around here won't let you transport wood let alone parks. I don't know if the little monsters have made it up your way or not. I hope not. Most of the parks will buck up downed timber and offer it for sale as firewood, which is what we've used in the past.

[pgvoutdoors]

Rick - Is anyone bringing tomahawk targets?

[Rick]

I don't yet. I'm really playing this by ear at the moment. I did some short driving last week of an hour each stretch and it was not a pleasant thing. I'm not sure I can do several hours at a stretch although I really want to attend. I don't know if I can get the targets loaded even if I decide to try it. I have to get my wife to help me fill the water softener. I'm not sure what kind of look I'd get if I asked her to help me load hunks of wood in the vehicle. :blink:

[pgvoutdoors]

I understand... I hope you can make it, if we need targets we'll work something out. Just get yourself healthy!

[crashdive123]

We may just have to have a Hoosier Car Pool!

Mrs. Crash is still on the fence about this year.

Who's Coming

Crash
Winnie
Bornthatway +1
Pgvoutdoors
H63 +1
Krat
Williepete

[Winnie]

Well now, whoever is willing to swing by and pick up Tricky Ricky, gets a fine Bottle Single Malt Whisky. Duty free and all that.:w00t:
If not, I'm sure we can find something to do with it.:whistling:

[BornthatWay]

Oh Winnie you will do just about anything to be able to meet Tricky Ricky. I hope he comes he does not try to impress you with his thong. Actually I am sure he would love to come to meet all of us and I hope he does get to come.

[Winnie]

Hey, I'm not above a bit of bribery if it means the old F.A.R.T can make it!
Just to say again........

Bottle fine Single Malt Whisky available to anyone who swings by Indiana to pick up Rick.

If he thinks he's getting out of it that easily he's very much mistaken.

[hunter63]

We will be heading down thru there, so Rick, ifn' y'all need a lift.........?
Gonna leave the dogs home, so the back seat is open.......Big Red showuld have room for the hawk logs as well.

[Williepete]

I offered a ride for him, but he is apperatly having real problems with his shoulders. I'm not much better off. I'm having major back, hip, leg and shoulder problems. I doubt I will do much hiking. Just walking to the mail box can do me in some days. Driving is ok as long as I can stop some and stretch my back.
Another note, I have a oak slice that is about six inchs thick and about two ft in dia. Would that do? I may be able to get some more maybe. How big should they be?

Bill

[hunter63]

That sound like a great target.....some people need a bigger target than others......Got a tripod to set it on?

[1stimestar]

Oh how I wish I could hop a few flights and come visit you all.

[kyratshooter]

If there is no fire ban, there will be fire! Cooking, coffee and telling tall tales.....oh - and tea too.

If there is a fire ban I am not above disassembly of the old propane grill and trning it into a gas fueled campfire! I have seen it done before at rondys where fire bans were imposed.

The ash boer had been stopped at the Ohio so far, but they are not allowing transport of wood from north of the River.

[Williepete]

Hunter no I don't have a stand, but maybe I could rig something up. The only way that I can get anymore is if a large tree that fell across the creek some years ago is not rotten. Will try to check on it tomorrow. Not sure about size and all on the stand. Can you give me some suggestions. It has been years since Friendship and not sure I remember how they stood.

Bill

[pgvoutdoors]

Another note, I have a oak slice that is about six inchs thick and about two ft in dia. Would that do? I may be able to get some more maybe. How big should they be?

Bill

Bill - I've found that oak is a bit too hard for tomahawk or knife targets, they mostly bounce off. Cottonwood is the best.

[Rick]

Cottonwood is what I gathered a few years back and it worked really well. It's strong enough to keep you from sinking an axe past the head but light enough they don't bounce off. The trick, as we learned, was you actually have to land some place on the target. Standing behind a target at any distance short of 50 yards was pretty dangerous when we threw. Except Mrs. Crash. She was dead on accurate. There's a lesson to learn there for Mr. Crash, I think.

[hunter63]

Bill - I've found that oak is a bit too hard for tomahawk or knife targets, they mostly bounce off. Cottonwood is the best.

Hummm never had that problem....did ya try hitting it with the sharp part?

Anyway, qwicky stand is three 2X4's...../\ and a back brace\...then a cross piece, looks like an "A".....

[crashdive123]

Bill - I've found that oak is a bit too hard for tomahawk or knife targets, they mostly bounce off. Cottonwood is the best.

Ha! My throwing knives laugh at oak targets.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llejU2rYZwM

[crashdive123]

Cottonwood is what I gathered a few years back and it worked really well. It's strong enough to keep you from sinking an axe past the head but light enough they don't bounce off. The trick, as we learned, was you actually have to land some place on the target. Standing behind a target at any distance short of 50 yards was pretty dangerous when we threw. Except Mrs. Crash. She was dead on accurate. There's a lesson to learn there for Mr. Crash, I think.

It keeps me nimble.:dodge::dodge::dodge:

[wtrfwlr]

That sure looks like a pile of dog crap on those leaves!
I'm gonna guess it's really dumped out resin though huh?:whistling:

[kyratshooter]

Except Mrs. Crash. She was dead on accurate. There's a lesson to learn there for Mr. Crash, I think.

Many of the rondys have a skillet toss for the womenfolk, judged for both distance and accuracy.

It gives one pause for thought!

[pgvoutdoors]

Hunter - maybe you can bring some of that SOFT Wisconsin oak, cannon balls bounce off Ohio oak and you can use wedges of it to split other wood!

I tried some oak from Pennsylvania last year and it didn't work too well for a tomahawk target either.

I'll try that sharp side method of hitting the target and see how that works.

[wtrfwlr]

If throwing knives and tomahawks around is Ok, would it be cool if an archery target were to be set up in a safe place as well?

[pgvoutdoors]

This is the target I made in Pennsylvania last year. The wood had dried for a year when we cut it up. It just didn't work too good.

http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx36/pgvoutdoors/WSF/IMG_6159.jpg

[pgvoutdoors]

Wtrfwlr - I would like to see some archery, maybe we can set up an area that can be safe enough for that. I'm not much of an archer but I like to practice when I get a chance.

[wtrfwlr]

Wtrfwlr - I would like to see some archery, maybe we can set up an area that can be safe enough for that. I'm not much of an archer but I like to practice when I get a chance.
I plan to bring some traditional bows with me, my Osage self made, a Mathews Bamboo backed Long Bow and a PVC Long Bow that I am working on. There will surely be some place to shoot even if we need to go on a little walk around and just do some stump thumpin.

[hunter63]

Hunter - maybe you can bring some of that SOFT Wisconsin oak, cannon balls bounce off Ohio oak and you can use wedges of it to split other wood!

I tried some oak from Pennsylvania last year and it didn't work too well for a tomahawk target either.

I'll try that sharp side method of hitting the target and see how that works.

LOL....it does help....great pic of the stand though......
Got a few sharp edged hawks around, I'll be sure to bring them along........

[Daniel Nighteyes]

Heh-heh-heh! What y'all need is cross-sections of West Coast date-palm trees. Even a fast-moving paperwad will stick into them. That's what I used for 'hawk-throwing practice, until I got the rotation just right. In the process I managed to destroy three cross-sections and a goodly portion of the plywood backstop.

[SWMBO and I will be in Spain for most of October. Oh, well...]

[crashdive123]

Here are the targets that Rick brought to the firs Jamboree.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii67/crashdive123/Jamboree/IMG_0447.jpg

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii67/crashdive123/Jamboree/IMG_0451.jpg

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii67/crashdive123/Jamboree/IMG_0455.jpg

Who's Coming

Crash
Winnie
Bornthatway +1
Pgvoutdoors
H63 +1
Krat
Williepete

[hillbill]

hey everone im from tennessee and the end of october you can have 80 degrees or snow,lots of places to have gatherings in north east tn from johnson city to pigoen forge and the great smokey mountains.

[crashdive123]

We're pretty well set on this year's location. I'm a big fan of the Smoky Mountains.

Who's Coming

Crash
Winnie
Bornthatway +1
Pgvoutdoors
H63 +1
Krat
Williepete

[tjwilhelm]

Are we still looking at October 19, 20, and 21? If so, I can make that time frame work and would love to join y'all, if that's OK. I have to be tentative for a few more weeks, yet. I have a few hurdles to get over. Hurdle #1 is successfully scheduling my next repair-surgery so it (and the follow up recovery) doesn't interfere. Hurdle #2 is getting the wife's blessing to go. After having to find my broken and bloody body in the street in front of our home, she's become pretty protective and concerned about my adventurous spirit. If these things don't get in the way, I'll be there. I'll know by mid-September. If I can make it, I'll need to sleep in my car, though. The current state of my shoulder and knee make ground level activity pretty tough. Don't be makin' fun, now!

[crashdive123]

Those are the dates. Really hope you can make it TJ. Mrs. TJ could always come to make sure you stay out of trouble.:whistling: I'll add your name to the list when you know for sure.

Who's Coming

Crash
Winnie
Bornthatway +1
Pgvoutdoors
H63 +1
Krat
Williepete

[BENESSE]

Many of the rondys have a skillet toss for the womenfolk, judged for both distance and accuracy.

It gives one pause for thought!

Now you're making it hard to resist, Kyrat.
(Hopefully the skillet is cast iron.)

[crashdive123]

I haven't found anything definitive on archery in the park. I'll give them a call next week sometime and ask.

Hopefully a few more of you will be able to finalize your plans - you won't be disappointed.

Who's Coming

Crash
Winnie
Bornthatway +1
Pgvoutdoors
H63 +1
Krat
Williepete

[Williepete]

Golly is that all that's coming. Nine will just be like a family gathering. After reading and thinking about the tomahawk target I know this oak that I have will be very hard to use. Hope someone else can bring something better. I'm going to have to find my hawk and start praticing. Looking forward to seeing everyone there.

Bill

[BENESSE]

Golly is that all that's coming. Nine will just be like a family gathering. After reading and thinking about the tomahawk target I know this oak that I have will be very hard to use. Hope someone else can bring something better. I'm going to have to find my hawk and start praticing. Looking forward to seeing everyone there.

Bill

Isn't 2D coming along?

[crashdive123]

I think more people will be able to commit to it as the date draws closer. I'm still working on Mrs. Crash......I think I'm wearing her down.

I still have hopes that Rick will be able to make the drive. When he does, then we have no worries about targets for the tomahawk.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii67/crashdive123/Jamboree/IMG_0448.jpg

Who's Coming

Crash
Winnie
Bornthatway +1
Pgvoutdoors
H63 +1
Krat
Williepete

[wtrfwlr]

Your right Crash. I'm a very serious maybe but won't commit until I know for sure that I have the cash on hand. Every thing else is a go for me. Just need a good job or two to come along and I'm in.

[hunter63]

Crash, tell Mrs Crash, that Mrs hunter wants to know if she is comming....women folk like strength in numbers....LOL

[gryffynklm]

It sounds like my DW wants to visit her Dad in Orlando FL. around that time. Time will tell.

[crashdive123]

It sounds like my DW wants to visit her Dad in Orlando FL. around that time. Time will tell.

Just follow us home after the Jamboree and then keep going - it's only about 3 hours away.

Who's Coming

Crash
Winnie
Bornthatway +1
Pgvoutdoors
H63 +1
Krat
Williepete

[gryffynklm]

Convincing DW might be a challenge.

[BornthatWay]

Just let her know that there are going to be lots of women there this time. We just might have to have that skillet toss and see if we can find any men willing to stand in as a targe. LOL!

[wtrfwlr]

I'll end up being picked for that, I'll be the skinniest 'target' there:dodge:!

[Williepete]

Isn't 2D coming along?

Benesse, who is 2D?

Bill

[crashdive123]

Benesse, who is 2D?

Bill

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/member.php?3276-2dumb2kwit




Who's Coming

Crash
Winnie
Bornthatway +1
Pgvoutdoors
H63 +1
Krat
Williepete

[crashdive123]

For those that haven't attended before - for the Saturday evening meal we have done a group meal in the past. It has always been a lot of fun. Last year, instead of everybody trying to prepare entire meals, we picked a meal and then people volunteered for the part they would be responsible for. It worked out great. I know there are still a few people that cannot commit as of yet, but be thinking about it. If everybody is interested, we'll figure out the Saturday meal in a few weeks.

Who's Coming

Crash
Winnie
Bornthatway +1
Pgvoutdoors
H63 +1
Krat
Williepete

[pgvoutdoors]

The pot luck dinners have always been great, all you need to do is make a dish and bring a HUGE appetite.

[crashdive123]

Something else that we have done in the past that is a lot of fun is to have a Saturday night, sitting around the fire, "door prize" drawing. If you have an item or two that you want to go into the drawing bring it. It is not necessary to bring anything for the drawing - it's just something that we've done in the past that has been a lot of fun. Some of the things people took home from the drawings of Jamborees gone by are:
Fire starter kits
knives
Water bottles
Tomahawks
Whistles
Lights
Signal Mirrors
Mess Kits
Stoves
and so much more

Who's Coming

Crash
Winnie
Bornthatway +1
Pgvoutdoors
H63 +1
Krat
Williepete
Coaldust

[natertot]

Okay guys, now that we are closer to the date, I can consider the Jamboree a little more seriously. I have Wifey interested too! Just need to know a few details. This is for Cumberland Gap National Park for Oct. 19-21st, correct? I have two toddlers (2 and 4yo) and was wondering if an event such as this is kid friendly for such youngsters. I am also curious to what the details are for the campsite. I couldn't find a map for the campsites and don't know if we would need to reserve our own and whatnot. My wife was also wondering about food. If I understand correctly, potlock on Saturday night, but the rest of the time we each have our own meals, right?

I know it is alot of questions, but it is semi-close and would enjoy a weekend get-a-way. I'd also like to me ya'll. Thanks guys.

[crashdive123]

Okay guys, now that we are closer to the date, I can consider the Jamboree a little more seriously. I have Wifey interested too! Just need to know a few details. This is for Cumberland Gap National Park for Oct. 19-21st, correct? I have two toddlers (2 and 4yo) and was wondering if an event such as this is kid friendly for such youngsters. I am also curious to what the details are for the campsite. I couldn't find a map for the campsites and don't know if we would need to reserve our own and whatnot. My wife was also wondering about food. If I understand correctly, potlock on Saturday night, but the rest of the time we each have our own meals, right?

I know it is alot of questions, but it is semi-close and would enjoy a weekend get-a-way. I'd also like to me ya'll. Thanks guys.

Correct on location and date.
All the Jamborees have been kid friendly.
We have a group site reserved that can accommodate 30 so you do not need to reserve a site.
For food - whatever you want. For the group meal we'll select a menu and everybody will bring a part of that menu. Worked well last year.

Who's Coming

Crash
Winnie
Bornthatway +1
Pgvoutdoors
H63 +1
Krat
Williepete
Coaldust
Natertot +3

[grrlscout]

Well well well well well well well....

Yesterday I booked my ticket to see my family in Kentucky AND a rental car, during the span in which the Jamboree takes place.

Sooooo count me in! I think I can actually fit my tent in my checked bag, and borrow some blankets from my aunt and uncle. I'll make it happen.

I may be bringing my nephews and niece, but we shall see.

[Winnie]

Sooo, a trip to the Sweetie section for Dolly Mixtures, Jelly Babies, Percy Piglets and Colin Caterpillars for the wee 'uns then?

[grrlscout]

Sooo, a trip to the Sweetie section for Dolly Mixtures, Jelly Babies, Percy Piglets and Colin Caterpillars for the wee 'uns then?

haha! Well they aren't *that* wee... 9 year old fraternal twins, and a 14 year old boy. But if you wanna get some for me, feel free. ;c )

I'd put them down as a "maybe" because I might be heading straight to the airport after the Jamboree.

[crashdive123]

haha! Well they aren't *that* wee... 9 year old fraternal twins, and a 14 year old boy. But if you wanna get some for me, feel free. ;c )

I'd put them down as a "maybe" because I might be heading straight to the airport after the Jamboree.

Awesome!!!

Who's Coming

Crash
Winnie
Bornthatway +1
Pgvoutdoors
H63 +1
Krat
Williepete
Coaldust
Natertot +3
Grrlscout +3

[pgvoutdoors]

A pretty good group of people forming, looks like it's going to be a good time. Looking forward to seeing some old friends and meeting many new ones. The time will start to pass quickly now, I hope many more of you can join us.

[grrlscout]

I think I can fit my backpacking tent in my checked bag, but a sleeping bag will be a problem, due to its bulk. Anyone have one I could borrow? This desert dweller has no cold tolerance. :(

I'm also bringing fixings for mesquite pancakes with prickly pear syrup. Any other requests?

[pgvoutdoors]

Grrlscout - It's no problem for me to bring a sleeping bag for you. If you need anything else just let me know. Even if you want to reduce your load by leaving your tent at home, I can bring a tent for you. It is absolutely no problem, I'm glad to do it.

[crashdive123]

I'm sure that between Krat and I we'll have an extra sleeping bag or two.

Who's Coming

Crash
Winnie
Bornthatway +1
Pgvoutdoors
H63 +1
Krat
Williepete
Coaldust
Natertot +3
Grrlscout +3

[pgvoutdoors]

I don't know about you all, but I'm starting to get hungry. I can smell the cooking fires already. (hint, hint, Crash!)

[crashdive123]

We have never had anybody go hungry, and now with some of the gourmet chefs of WSF.......oh yeah!

Who's Coming

Crash
Winnie
Bornthatway +1
Pgvoutdoors
H63 +1
Krat
Williepete
Coaldust
Natertot +3
Grrlscout +3

[roar-k]

Count me in. I will be there as I already have the weekend scheduled for the Jamboree.

Also I meant to post this for you all in regards to firearms:

There is a new federal policy that allows concealed weapons permit owners to carry firearms into Cumberland Gap National Historical Park. I believe it started January 9th of this year.

Before this law came to be you could only transport into the park in your car unloaded and stored. So if you have a CCW or one from a state that has a reciprocal agreement with the 3 states that touch the park you can carry your handgun leagally.

If people are interested in shooting I can probably get access to a local range.

[roar-k]

Oh, and if anyone needs a ride within an 1 - 1.5 hrs let me know. Also, I may have a +1, but as of now just myself.

[crashdive123]

Glad you can make it.

Who's Coming

Crash
Winnie
Bornthatway +1
Pgvoutdoors
H63 +1
Krat
Williepete
Coaldust
Natertot +3
Grrlscout +3
Roar-k

[roar-k]

Anything in particular that needs to be brought? Throwing tomahawks? Sling shots? Blow guns? Extra tarps?

[crashdive123]

A couple of people will need some extra gear. So far Krat and I seem to have it covered. You could do like me - just bring everything. For me - I'm just happy getting together and wandering around the woods with my camera. We'll do some meal planning for Saturday evening as we get closer.

Who's Coming

Crash
Winnie
Bornthatway +1
Pgvoutdoors
H63 +1
Krat
Williepete
Coaldust
Natertot +3
Grrlscout +3
Roar-k

[ElevenBravo]

I would like to attend but don't know about money

This may help...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money

J/K


Im broke too...

[pgvoutdoors]

It can be hard these days to spend any amount of money on anything that isn't an necessity. I'm also a person of limited funds, I've been saving for this trip for a while now. I've attended two of the past three gatherings and found them a very much worth my time and money. It gives you a deeper prospective into the forum. I've made some good friends whiles sitting around those campfires. The group that is forming this year is a good one and I expect many more will attend. What makes it special is that you're not expected to be there, you do it because you want to. Everyone will be glad you came and will welcome you to sit with them and share a meal. It's a rendezvous, a time to get together and share the year's adventures, play some games, and tell some stories. Sometimes the simplest things are the best. Looking forward to seeing all of you.

[kyratshooter]

If you can find gas money to get there and have a couple of packs of hot dogs do not hesitate to get to the park. There will be enough extra food to go around and no one will go hungry.

These camps are really a low budget deal. No one is excpected to buy a new Winnebago for this run. Tarp camps are acceptable and if the weather gets scarey there will be extra room in someones' tent.

We are there to connect with old friends and make new ones. What you are wearing, driving, eating or sleeping in is way down the list of priorities.

First priority is an endless flow of coffee, which Crash is in charge of.

Second priority is an endless supply of campfire stories, which last year me and Poco Mooneyes were in charge of, whenever Crash ran out of submarine tales. Hopefully we wil have more help this year!

I have been looking foreward to this camp ever since I packed up and left last year's camp.

[hunter63]

........Gotta go take the Winnebago back............

[crashdive123]

The only expenses that you will have is getting there with your stuff. The campsite is taken care of.

Who's Coming

Crash
Winnie
Bornthatway +1
Pgvoutdoors
H63 +1
Krat
Williepete
Coaldust
Natertot +3
Grrlscout +3
Roar-k

[Williepete]

Crash I'm going to jump the gun here and volunteer to provide a pot of baked beans for Sat nite. About all I would feel safe fixing. I'm pretty good cook at home but not at camp, most of what I fix at home would not go over at camp.

Bill

[kyratshooter]

I'll bring chicken tenders again! That worked out well last time if Crash is planning another vegetable roast. That veggie glob was excellent last year!!! Baked beans would round that out.

I might make a cobbler in the dutch oven for latter that night. That is always a good treat on a cool night.

I think Winnie had something planned also.

We may wind up doing ourselves and injury.

Hunter you bring the Winnebago if you feel inclined, we will not exclude our more prosperous friends.

[hunter63]

Naw, still bringing the lodge........if I get it back in time, having a back door sewed in.....should be done by Oct. 1st....just kidding about the MH.

[wtrfwlr]

I really really wanna make it, I just can't commit yet. If I do make it I'll be BBQing a couple or three Pork Butts. I think Crash is kinda hoping for me doing that since I already promised!

[Kamel]

If it was a few days later me and my gf would attend. But we wont have the 15 grand till the 21st. sad days. maybe next year.

[crashdive123]

OK - Looks like the meal is starting to cook. Keep in mind that if everybody brings a little - there will be a lot. Duck Man - you just work on getting yourself there and don't worry about the food. We always have plenty.

Saturday Evening Meal

baked beans - Willepete
chicken tenders - Krat
veggie wad - Crash

Who's Coming

Crash
Winnie
Bornthatway +1
Pgvoutdoors
H63 +1
Krat
Williepete
Coaldust
Natertot +3
Grrlscout +3
Roar-k

[wtrfwlr]

Thanks Crash! That is my priority #1!

[BornthatWay]

I will do a pulled pork and bring the buns to serve it on.

[crashdive123]

Saturday Evening Meal

baked beans - Willepete
chicken tenders - Krat
veggie wad - Crash
pulled pork and buns - Bornthatway

Who's Coming

Crash
Winnie
Bornthatway +1
Pgvoutdoors
H63 +1
Krat
Williepete
Coaldust
Natertot +3
Grrlscout +3
Roar-k

[Winnie]

If I can borrow the Kitchen, I'll bring Dorset Apple Cake and maybe a pie or two, or a mess of them there Hobnob biskwits.

[crashdive123]

Saturday Evening Meal

baked beans - Willepete
chicken tenders - Krat
veggie wad - Crash
pulled pork and buns - Bornthatway
dessert - Winnie

Who's Coming

Crash
Winnie
Bornthatway +1
Pgvoutdoors
H63 +1
Krat
Williepete
Coaldust
Natertot +3
Grrlscout +3
Roar-k

[pgvoutdoors]

If I can borrow the Kitchen, I'll bring Dorset Apple Cake and maybe a pie or two, or a mess of them there Hobnob biskwits.

Winnie - you're welcome to use any of the kitchen items I have; I'll bring a couple of Dutch Ovens for baking and anything else you may need, just let me know.

[Winnie]

Ah I have an ace up my sleeve PGV, it's called a kyratshooter! I'm borrowing his kitchen to cook some stuff before we leave. He is not aware of this yet, but I guess he is now. But thanks for the offer.
I'll leave the campfire cooking to you experts, I'm still very novice at it.

[pgvoutdoors]

Winnie - That sounds like a plan, I'm sure KS will take good care of you. See you soon...

[roar-k]

Are we planning any group excursions during the weekend? I plan on being around Thursday night as I have family in the area, so if anyone wants to join me for breakfast friday let me know.

[crashdive123]

No real real plans yet. Last year we looked at what there was to do and everybody just sort of decided what interested them. Still working on Mrs. Crash - so depending on how that goes, I may stay there Thursday night as well - don't know yet.

Saturday Evening Meal

baked beans - Willepete
chicken tenders - Krat
veggie wad - Crash
pulled pork and buns - Bornthatway
dessert - Winnie

Who's Coming

Crash
Winnie
Bornthatway +1
Pgvoutdoors
H63 +1
Krat
Williepete
Coaldust
Natertot +3
Grrlscout +3
Roar-k

[grrlscout]

If someone has the cooking gear I can use, I'll make pancakes Sunday morning.

[pgvoutdoors]

Grrlscout - I will bring a camp stove and a heavy griddle, your welcome to use that.

[pgvoutdoors]

Roar-k - I'm planning on being in the area a couple of days early, I can meet up with you on Friday morning.

[Williepete]

I'm bringing a two burner apartment style propane stove. It's bigger than the usuall camp stove, and I'll bring a griddle that can do 4 pancakes at a time. I'm also planning to get in later Thursday.

Bill

[kyratshooter]

Winnie the kitchen is yours to use as you see fit. All four burners heat up and the oven works! Hot and cold running water and everything!

I anticipate having to blast you off the back porch with dynamite if the weather is nice.

[Winnie]

Winnie the kitchen is yours to use as you see fit. All four burners heat up and the oven works! Hot and cold running water and everything!

I anticipate having to blast you off the back porch with dynamite if the weather is nice.

Well, someone has to inspect the work and make sure it passes strict rocking chair and icecream codes.:whistling:

[Winter]

Crash, veggie wad? Isn't that what comes out of the south end of a northbound bull?

You folks have fun.

[crashdive123]

Crash, veggie wad? Isn't that what comes out of the south end of a northbound bull?

You folks have fun.

Spicy Veggie Wad to be accurate.

Saturday Evening Meal

baked beans - Willepete
chicken tenders - Krat
veggie wad - Crash
pulled pork and buns - Bornthatway
dessert - Winnie

Who's Coming

Crash
Winnie
Bornthatway +1
Pgvoutdoors
H63 +1
Krat
Williepete
Coaldust
Natertot +3
Grrlscout +3
Roar-k

[roar-k]

Roar-k - I'm planning on being in the area a couple of days early, I can meet up with you on Friday morning.

That would be good. Would you be up for breakfast cooked by an old country lady and hearing some old man stories? Well that is if you are around Cumberland gap at 9 - 10 am. Actually if anyone is around let me know and we will eat.

[pgvoutdoors]

That would be good. Would you be up for breakfast cooked by an old country lady and hearing some old man stories? Well that is if you are around Cumberland gap at 9 - 10 am. Actually if anyone is around let me know and we will eat.

Sounds good to me, I'll be sure to be there.

[crashdive123]

Mrs. Crash succumbed to my charming persuasions.


Saturday Evening Meal

baked beans - Willepete
chicken tenders - Krat
veggie wad - Crash
pulled pork and buns - Bornthatway
dessert - Winnie

Who's Coming

Crash +1
Winnie
Bornthatway +1
Pgvoutdoors
H63 +1
Krat
Williepete
Coaldust
Natertot +3
Grrlscout +3
Roar-k

[roar-k]

She fell for it again eh?

[kyratshooter]

There are certain women that will skip the final judgement and get a free pass into heaven just for what they put up with here on earth.

I am looking foreward to meeting Mrs. Crash.

[TresMon]

I'm rarely on the net now. Can we recap the date, place and any pertinent info? Or if it is obvious in the back pages would some kind soul cut n paste it to me pm?

Thanks!
Tres

[roar-k]

We have a reservation!

Arrival at campsite - Friday, October 19th
Departure from campsite - Sunday October 21

Here's a link to the campground http://www.nps.gov/cuga/planyourvisit/upload/WR%20Campground.pdf

The map on this link does not show site numbers, which is just as well since the map is no longer accurate according to those I spoke with. Our reservation is for Site(s) F15 and F17 which is the old O8. We can have up to 30 on this site. They would like to have an approximate head count, so I told them 20 and will update that if necessary. I'll keep tally in another post as people commit to coming. This site (old O8, new F15 and 17) is the only one that accommodates this many. Sites O2 and O5 each can hold 18, while the rest can take only 12.

Here are some addresses I was given for those using GPS to find their way.
Visitor Center
91 Barlett Park Rd
Middlesboro, KY 40965

The campgrounds are actually in Virginia. The person I spoke with said there was no address for the campgrounds, but somebody that camped there used the following.....
8506 Old Wilderness Rd
Ewing, VA

Plugging that into Google Earth brings up the entrance to the campgrounds. Also on that view, our site will be fairly close to the road - hopefully it is not a well traveled road at night.

There is only parking for two vehicles at the site, but there is a parking lot very close to it (don't remember if he said 50 ft or 50 yards)

Currently there is no burn ban, but there was a few weeks ago. I asked about firewood - don't bring it in from out of state, or even out of county. Lee County is where they would like you to get it. There are several places, one being about a mile from the visitor center.

Here you go Tres

[natertot]

Things are looking good! I was browsing on the parks site yesterday. They did say you can gather firewood from the park and there is also a bear alert currently in place.

I know the three states honor many CCW's, but I'm not sure if that is applicable to the park as it is federal land. If anyone has more info on that, I would be interested. Also, I looked at the camp map, looks like a good layout. Do we know what site we are staying at?

I will bring some cooking items, let me know what I can contribute to the Saturday feast.

[Winter]

Firearms prohibited and 2200 quiet time?

I know the quiet times are lenient and negotiable because I have had many drunken discussions with forest service folk.


I'll share a story which amuses me and annoys me still.

Some friends asked me to camp and we did, bonfire, big slow cooked, tripod mounted, modded propane tank, filled with corned beef brisket onions and taters.

We drank, BS'ed, ate, and tended fire till 0'Dark.

At 09' or so, half of us are still in our fartsacks or laying in the dirt and a fed forest service guy drives up, demands our ID's and tells us we have to be quite a bit further from our vehicles/road to camp as we were. We comply, of course, he's just doing his job. He comes back, hands Jake and Thane their ID's and says; "Mr Winter, You are gonna have to go with me."


I said as eloquently as I could " ehhhh.......really?"

"No, just messing with ya!"; he says.


So, over the next couple minutes as I'm trying to keep from having a stroke and catch my breath, he rides off. I ran over my mental list of possible fed crimes and all I could come up with was kicking back at a Rainbow Family reunion in , like ,88'.

[natertot]

That is actually pretty funny, Winter!

One thing I like to do at work is hand the ID's back to the wrong people. They either look at me like I am dumb or they put them in their pocket without notice. Either way is funny to me!