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kyratshooter
01-11-2012, 01:44 PM
Hey Rick, Question about the PSL capabilities?

I was looking for the old thread and never found it, thanks ot our magnificent search engine.

Anyhow, before the last and greatest canoe accident occurred, what kind of groups were you able to get out of your PSL?

Did you keep track of which surplus or commercial ammo it liked?

Are you going into recoil withdrawal yet?

Rick
01-11-2012, 03:33 PM
I'm not an MOA guy. I use life size targets at 100 yards and as long as I can put them where I want I'm happy. I never measured any of the rounds But I can hit center chest or center face with each round. I've only shot Silver Bear through it. They are not original as I'm sure you know. I had a problem with the bolt hanging open after the shot. A good buffing with the dremel fixed it.

TresMon
01-11-2012, 03:40 PM
Tresmon= idiot.

What's a PSL?

Rick
01-11-2012, 03:43 PM
http://www.hendersondefense.com/store/pc/catalog/psl_1192_detail.jpg

It is a marksman rifle assigned one per squad to engage the enemy at a further distance than the AK can reach. Semi-auto 7.62x54. Mine has AK solid furniture. 10 round mag. Dang long and dang heavy.

TresMon
01-11-2012, 03:45 PM
Oh A Drugaunov, or a Drug clone. Gotcha. Is a PSL a specific clone?

crashdive123
01-11-2012, 03:45 PM
It's a Romanian rifle. Don't remember which mod he got. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSL_(rifle)

Edit: How embarrassing. I was out typed by a one fingered typer.:noway:

Rick
01-11-2012, 03:47 PM
It's kind of a Drug step child.

TresMon
01-11-2012, 03:47 PM
Gotcha thanks.

Rick
01-11-2012, 03:50 PM
I'm actually up to two fingers. My right hand controls the SHIFT key. Today the SHIFT key, tomorrow the world!!!!!!!!!

TresMon
01-11-2012, 04:02 PM
She should be 600+ meter capable. Ever stretch'er out?

crashdive123
01-11-2012, 04:09 PM
I've got to say that I misread the title when I first saw it. I'm going through the process of making medical appointments (routine tests and check-ups) and thought it said Rick's PSA results.:blush:

hunter63
01-11-2012, 05:26 PM
http://www.hendersondefense.com/store/pc/catalog/psl_1192_detail.jpg

It is a marksman rifle assigned one per squad to engage the enemy at a further distance than the AK can reach. Semi-auto 7.62x54. Mine has AK solid furniture. 10 round mag. Dang long and dang heavy.

Almost looks like the scope is on back wards?

I was thinking about one just to burn up some of the spam cans of 7.62x54....decided to go to the H&R project at this time.
Maybe next?....unless I get led astray.....

Rick
01-11-2012, 07:07 PM
I don't have access to longer distances. The 100 yard range is all I have.

TresMon
01-12-2012, 08:33 AM
Gotcha. Glad you have that one.

kyratshooter
01-12-2012, 11:32 AM
She should be 600+ meter capable. Ever stretch'er out?

This rifle was not designed for 600+ capabilities. The soviets realized they had only a short range capability in the AK. They issued this rifle to a "designated marksman" in each squad to deal with targets the AK would not reach and they did not want to wipe off the face of the earth with artillery. He was never intended to be a sniper, simply a marksman with a better rifle than the AK.

It would be as if suddenly we took M14 rifles out of inventory, slapped a scope on them and issued one the each squad leader.

This rifle, as were most soviet developments of the cold war, a top secret item for decades. At one point there was a $1,000,000 reward for anyone that could provide one to our military for testing. When they got hold of their first copy they were not impressed.

Of course we did not know the AK existed until films of the supression of the Hungarian Revolution were smuggled out in 1956. Suddenly we saw EVERY Russian soldier armed with a new and mysterious rifle, as if them outnumbering us 10/1 were not enough.

Our black rifle technology went into high gear at that point and we took the first thing that came along.

woodsman86
01-12-2012, 12:12 PM
A properly tuned and taken care of Russian Dragunov (can't speak for a clone), will hold a group to about 800-900 meters. I am sure some of the clone manufactures make some that are comparable, but all the ones I have seen were Russian. To hold a group at those distances, it is mostly on the shooter's ability not necessarily the equipment.

It was a very popular sniper rifle in Iraq and the enemy was doing damage at some remarkable distances with it. In Baqubah, we had a PL take one in the shoulder through a window on the second floor of a house at 850 meters. Had to have a bird find that one, as he was in full gilly laying on the side of a canal. Foot patrols passed him twice without seeing a thing, but he couldn't fool a thermal. It was good day anytime we found a cache with a Dragunov in it.

Rick
01-12-2012, 01:10 PM
This rifle was not designed for 600+ capabilities. The soviets realized they had only a short range capability in the AK. They issued this rifle to a "designated marksman" in each squad to deal with targets the AK would not reach and they did not want to wipe off the face of the earth with artillery. He was never intended to be a sniper, simply a marksman with a better rifle than the AK.

Wish I had thought of that.

2dumb2kwit
01-12-2012, 02:07 PM
I've shot at a bowling pin at between 500 and 600 yards. I could only see the top 2/3 of the pin sticking up out of the grass. I never hit it, but seeing the dirt fly, I'd say that I was shooting about a 12" group. That was with polish lightball surplus ammo. I'm pretty sure that the rifle was better than that......but I'm not. LOL

lucznik
01-12-2012, 07:12 PM
A properly tuned and taken care of Russian Dragunov... will hold a group to about 800-900 meters.


Can you explain what you mean by "hold a group?"

woodsman86
01-12-2012, 09:06 PM
"Hold A Group" is the rifle's ability to repeatedly put a bullet in the same place shot after shot. In other words, the tighter the group the more accurate the rifle. Some rifle are so loose or poorly made that they will not shoot the same every time. This can also be referred to as the maximum effective range on a point target. Where as the maximum effective range on an area target would be how far the rifle will shoot lethally but not be able to hold a group.

TresMon
01-12-2012, 09:42 PM
This rifle was not designed for 600+ capabilities.

A good Drug and good LR ammo is AT LEAST 600M capable. Granted yes it is issued in a DM role, but the rifle can do what the rifle can do.

Also, our military DID pull m-14's , slap a scope on them and put them back to use. They call them Enhanced Battle Rifles now. EBR:7211http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mk_14_Enhanced_Battle_Rifle


Woodsman speaks wise.

lucznik
01-13-2012, 12:47 PM
"Hold A Group" is the rifle's ability to repeatedly put a bullet in the same place shot after shot. In other words, the tighter the group the more accurate the rifle. Some rifle are so loose or poorly made that they will not shoot the same every time. This can also be referred to as the maximum effective range on a point target. Where as the maximum effective range on an area target would be how far the rifle will shoot lethally but not be able to hold a group.

OK so, I think I'm following you so far...

Now, if a gun is capable of "holding a group" up to 800 - 900 meters, what kinds of factors would make that same gun incapable of "holding a group" at say... 1000 meters or beyond. In other words, why would an otherwise accurate gun suddenly become inaccurate after some distance? Or is "holding a group" not simply an accuracy issue?

TresMon
01-13-2012, 01:41 PM
Because your dealing with an ever increasing angle. I teach this stuff professionally.

Shooter's talk about minute of angle. A "minute" is 1/60 of a degree.

ANY given (real) issued Drug, or real issued- Drug clone is AT LEAST a 2 minute rifle.

a minute of angle = 1.047" PER C yards. Every body rounds down to an even inch, or 1" per hundred yds.

So if a Drug is >/= a 2 moa rifle, it should shoot no larger than 2" groups @ 100 yards. Or 8" groups at 400 yards, or 12" groups at 600.

So why is incapable at further ranges? Well theoretically**, it still holds a 2 moa group further out. At 1K yds. this = 20." Now we are getting bigger than our target. There's your problem...... the gun if aimed and fired perfectly at best will hit in a 20" circle. Add in the smallest human error from even an expert marksman and now the best we can hope to hold is a say, 26" circle. but nobody dopes the wind peffeclty- you'll ALWAYS be a wee bit off, at least... So now the best we can hope for real world is a 36" circle. So now hitting a man is a, well hit or miss scenario.

So how do sniper's hit a 2000 yd target? Well start with a 1/4 moa rifle.............

** that the theoretical. But bullets fly like many have SEEN arrows fly, they streak, then slow, then fall to the ground... well it's a good visual.
But in real world a rifle that is 2 moa at 1 C yards will not be a 2 moa rifle at 2k. See bullet flight are predictable at just a wee bit less than super sonic flight, but when the bullet slows much below this all bets are off as they start to tumble, etc. And different round's go sub sonic at differing ranges..... So while the theoretical math is right on, it's not real world.

hunter63
01-13-2012, 02:52 PM
I'm guessing the primary reason for purchasing this rifle was more of a "cool, I want one" rather than a tool to ward off Zombies at 800 yards, and hold a group, at least that would be my reason for buying one.

If I going to shoot that far seriously, my first choice wouldn't be a mil sup rifle of questionable background...I have always thought that those 10-20-30 rd magazines were more to shoot alot, because it doesn't shoot that well to start with....My choice would be a good bolt gun with a bigA$$ scope so I can see that far.

They are just 'cool"....and I always though "EBR" was short for Evil Black Rifle....not Enhanced Battle Rifles...wrong again.
But that is just me.

lucznik
01-13-2012, 03:46 PM
But in real world a rifle that is 2 moa at 1 C yards will not be a 2 moa rifle at 2k. See bullet flight are predictable at just a wee bit less than super sonic flight, but when the bullet slows much below this all bets are off as they start to tumble, etc. And different round's go sub sonic at differing ranges..... So while the theoretical math is right on, it's not real world.

Still following... I think.

So now, why is it you don't see this tumbling with handgun round that don't reach supersonic speeds to begin with? Or is it just that we don't shoot such cartridges at sufficiently long ranges to notice it?

2dumb2kwit
01-13-2012, 03:59 PM
Still following... I think.

So now, why is it you don't see this tumbling with handgun round that don't reach supersonic speeds to begin with? Or is it just that we don't shoot such cartridges at sufficiently long ranges to notice it?

I would also like to know the reason, but I have a few ideas. I'm thinking one thing is the disturbance that happens, going from super-sonic to sub-sonic. The other thing that I'm thinking about, is the rate of spin. (Even though the handgun bullet isn't going very fast, it is spinning fast.)

2dumb2kwit
01-13-2012, 04:04 PM
I'm guessing the primary reason for purchasing this rifle was more of a "cool, I want one" rather than a tool to ward off Zombies at 800 yards, and hold a group, at least that would be my reason for buying one.

If I going to shoot that far seriously, my first choice wouldn't be a mil sup rifle of questionable background...I have always thought that those 10-20-30 rd magazines were more to shoot alot, because it doesn't shoot that well to start with....My choice would be a good bolt gun with a bigA$$ scope so I can see that far.

They are just 'cool"....and I always though "EBR" was short for Evil Black Rifle....not Enhanced Battle Rifles...wrong again.
But that is just me.

I think it may be one of those things that has more than one meaning.
You know....kinda like F.A.R.T.'s. LOL

TresMon
01-13-2012, 04:11 PM
The longer the bullet the more required RPM's to keep it stable and not tumbling. (Long range) rifle bullets are as long as like three pistol bullets.

Example- it takes a "16 twist" i.e. 1 turn in 16" rate of rifling to stabilize a .45 acp 230 grain FMj. ( a SHORT FAT bullet.)

On the flip side, it takes dang near a 6 twist (6.5 actually) to stabilize a 90 grain .223 bullet...... ( A LONG needle like bullet)

Heck, in fact I just bet my whole (7mm) bullet I shoot at extreme long range is longer than an entire LOADED round of .45ACP- let's see.....
7222

:gimp:

hunter63
01-13-2012, 04:46 PM
That make sense, guess thats why the round ball in a muzzle loader twist rates are 1-68 or more where maxie's/mini;s are 1-48 down....
Round ball wouldn't have to much of a groove contact, because it's....round.

TresMon
01-13-2012, 05:02 PM
Yessir perzactly.

lucznik
01-13-2012, 05:33 PM
The longer the bullet the more required RPM's to keep it stable and not tumbling. (Long range) rifle bullets are as long as like three pistol bullets.

Example- it takes a "16 twist" i.e. 1 turn in 16" rate of rifling to stabilize a .45 acp 230 grain FMj. ( a SHORT FAT bullet.)

On the flip side, it takes dang near a 6 twist (6.5 actually) to stabilize a 90 grain .223 bullet...... ( A LONG needle like bullet)

Heck, in fact I just bet my whole (7mm) bullet I shoot at extreme long range is longer than an entire LOADED round of .45ACP- let's see.....
7222

:gimp:
Very nice. Thank you.

I think I'll count that as my "one new thing learned each day" for today.

I'm at par for the course (...for today).


Now let me throw one more little one at you so I can wrap my head around the whole thing... Going back to post #23....

Because your dealing with an ever increasing angle...

Now This is profound nitpicking to be sure but, just for the sake of clarity as I try to remember my Geometry (or was it Trigonometry?) from Jr. High School... wouldn't the angle actually remain the same throughout the bullet's flight and the distance from the vertex would be the variable?

Rick
01-13-2012, 05:44 PM
Don't you reach a rate of spin where centrifugal force will pull the bullet apart? Isn't that a top end restriction for rate of spin?



I'm guessing the primary reason for purchasing this rifle was more of a "cool, I want one" rather than a tool to ward off Zombies at 800 yards, and hold a group, at least that would be my reason for buying one.

Actually it was not for me. It gives me a higher rate of fire than I can achieve with the mosin using the 7.62x54 and quicker time back on target with a time proven round. It gave me a longer range capability than my AR followed by .9mm carbines and shotgun. So it gave a more complete 'from there to here" set of weapons. Since I have several male members of my immediate family it was a consideration for when S really HTF outside the scope of my normal planning. At least that was the idea.

hunter63
01-13-2012, 05:52 PM
Actually it was not for me. It gives me a higher rate of fire than I can achieve with the mosin using the 7.62x54 and quicker time back on target with a time proven round. It gave me a longer range capability than my AR followed by .9mm carbines and shotgun. So it gave a more complete 'from there to here" set of weapons. Since I have several male members of my immediate family it was a consideration for when S really HTF outside the scope of my normal planning. At least that was the idea.

I was speaking for me, as they are cool.

Yes, would give a longer range, higher rate of fire....with a weapon designed for extended hign rate of fire.

Often looked at the AR 10- 308's....then get led astray back into the older stuff.

Rick
01-13-2012, 05:57 PM
I just wanted to toss out another idea in case anyone is considering a purchase. They are very plentiful right now and relatively cheap if you shop around. Parts are very available if not somewhat expensive. 10 round mags is all you can find for them.

kyratshooter
01-13-2012, 06:00 PM
ANY given (real) issued Drug, or real issued- Drug clone is AT LEAST a 2 minute rifle.

Not disagreeing with the theory or concept but also remember that NATO ammo (soviet requirements are similar) is not required to do but 2" radius@200m so one must factor in a 2moa ammo fudge factor.

If the rifle has 2MOA fudge factor, and the ammo has 2moa fudge factor then one actually should not expect better that 4" groups@100m withut an exceptional rifle and a particularly good run of ammo. At 200m head shots would be a chancy thing and at 400m keeping things inside a 16" circle becomes a chore with mirage and wind added. I am not about to try and center that 32" circle at 800m.

TresMon
01-13-2012, 09:19 PM
Nagatory.

If a rifle is called a 2 minute rifle then thats what it does with it's standard issue ammo. Not 2 + 2= 4 min. I mean how was the ammo deemed 2 moa capable...... well with the rifle. Granted one could say with a universal test receiver\|/ But anywho I don't wanna be shot a bird, or with a bb gun or anything else. How about some ice cream...anyone?

TresMon
01-19-2012, 10:26 AM
Now This is profound nitpicking to be sure but, just for the sake of clarity as I try to remember my Geometry (or was it Trigonometry?) from Jr. High School... wouldn't the angle actually remain the same throughout the bullet's flight and the distance from the vertex would be the variable? Your right. It's actually the subtension of the angle that is increasing. I was speaking generically.




Don't you reach a rate of spin where centrifugal force will pull the bullet apart? Isn't that a top end restriction for rate of spin?
yes you can. It's bore heat. The tighter the rifling the more heat imparted to the bullet. From friction and longer period of time in the bore. What happens is the lead core liquifies. When it comes out of the bore at nearing 200,000 rpms the copper jacket can't contain the molten lead. the jacket ruptures and the bullet "disappears" as we call it in competitive shooting.

kyratshooter
01-19-2012, 11:58 AM
Nagatory.

If a rifle is called a 2 minute rifle then thats what it does with it's standard issue ammo. Not 2 + 2= 4 min. I mean how was the ammo deemed 2 moa capable...... well with the rifle. Granted one could say with a universal test receiver\|/ But anywho I don't wanna be shot a bird, or with a bb gun or anything else. How about some ice cream...anyone?

If the ammo can not accomplish a set result then how can the rifle shoot better than what you put into it?

This defies logic Tress. Is it raining on me again?

Every MOA capable rifle is not going to shoot just any trash issue ammo one puts into it inside an inch!

It is also the reason I meticuliously hand craft my accuracy loads! Most competition shooters do also. It is one of the reasons people handload= improved accuracy.

I have two rifles that will shoot inside one inch all day if I feed them my handloads. They are MOA rifles.

If I feed them military ball they will not shoot inside 3". They are still MOA rifles.

If I can not develop a load they like, and they never accomplish the magic MOA in my hands or anyone elses or off a machine rest then they are not MOA rifles.

A .22 that prefers only one brand of ammo is not an unaccurate rifle, it is a picky rifle. My 10/22 will not keep Federal bulk ammo on a pie plate at 50 yards but it will shoot its prefered fodder into 1/2" at that range. If I had not tested 50 kinds of .22 ammo in that gun I would have declared it useless years ago.

TresMon
01-19-2012, 12:32 PM
If the ammo can not accomplish a set result then how can the rifle shoot better than what you put into it?

This defies logic Tress. Is it raining on me again?

Every MOA capable rifle is not going to shoot just any trash issue ammo one puts into it inside an inch!

It is also the reason I meticuliously hand craft my accuracy loads! Most competition shooters do also. It is one of the reasons people handload= improved accuracy.

I have two rifles that will shoot inside one inch all day if I feed them my handloads. They are MOA rifles.

If I feed them military ball they will not shoot inside 3". They are still MOA rifles.

If I can not develop a load they like, and they never accomplish the magic MOA in my hands or anyone elses or off a machine rest then they are not MOA rifles.

A .22 that prefers only one brand of ammo is not an unaccurate rifle, it is a picky rifle. My 10/22 will not keep Federal bulk ammo on a pie plate at 50 yards but it will shoot its prefered fodder into 1/2" at that range. If I had not tested 50 kinds of .22 ammo in that gun I would have declared it useless years ago.

Ky,
Generally speaking your exactly right. But what it appears you do not understand is the military _WS concept. Example the US Army issues the M24 SWS or sniper weapon system. "System" is the key word.

Nagatory.

If a rifle is called a 2 minute rifle then thats what it does with it's standard issue ammo.

Within the system is a given rifle (custom Remmy 700 long action), a given sight (varies) and a given ammo- MK248 MOD 1. That SYSTEM has a guaranteed accuracy rating.

The Dragunov weapon SYSTEM is better than or equal too 2 moa.

I never said inferred or did anything to lead anyone to believe that is you find the most miserable ammo you can for that rifle that it would perform a miracle with said ammo. But in standard weapon evaluation professionally & with laymen- the weapon being fed GOOD ammo is understood in regards to conversational statements of accuracy.

From the angle you present- I feel that if you were to read a sports car magazine article that stated the new Corvette will do 0-60 in ____ seconds that you'd run around yelling "but not with watery gas! but not with watery gas!" Well good gas, like good ammo is the standard for TEST & evaluation and it's the assumed to those that consume the info.

PS- if you'll lube your bullets with Alox yourself you'll likely see even better accuracy results in your .22, air temp:lube viscosity being key.

lucznik
01-19-2012, 12:39 PM
wouldn't the angle actually remain the same throughout the bullet's flight and the distance from the vertex would be the variable?

Your right. It's actually the subtension of the angle that is increasing.

This is starting to be the "let's quiz Tresmon on his knowledge thread." Sorry about that, though I do appreciate your willingness to share your knowledge.

And of course, I do have (at least) one more question/clarification to pose:

As the distance from the target increases wouldn't the subtended angle decrease?

TresMon
01-19-2012, 12:47 PM
This is starting to be the "let's quiz Tresmon on his knowledge thread." Sorry about that, though I do appreciate your willingness to share your knowledge.

And of course, I do have (at least) one more question/clarification to pose:

As the distance from the target increases wouldn't the subtended angle decrease?

No problem. This stuff is what I do.

No as angle INCREASES Angle subtension INCREASES: {Edit: I should have said as DISTANCE increases subtend increases}

7261

I tell my students to envision a MONSTER door stop between the end of their barrel and the target. Skinny end at the barrel. The further it is to the target the "thicker" the vertcal distance of the door stop at the target, i.e. angle subtend.

lucznik
01-19-2012, 12:54 PM
No problem. This stuff is what I do.

No as angle INCREASES Angle subtension INCREASES:

7261

I tell my students to envision a MONSTER door stop between the end of their barrel and the target. Skinny end at the barrel. The further it is to the target the "thicker" the vertcal distance of the door stop at the target, i.e. angle subtend.

OK, I can see your example but, this seems to contradict what you are saying:

http://www.mathopenref.com/subtend.html

If you move the little guy back and forth you can see that, as he gets closer to the flagpole, the pole subtends a larger angle and as you get further away, the flagpole subtends a smaller angle.

Not trying to argue with you, rather just trying to understand.

TresMon
01-19-2012, 01:03 PM
OK, I can see your example but, this seems to contradict what you are saying:

http://www.mathopenref.com/subtend.html

If you move the little guy back and forth you can see that, as he gets closer to the flagpole, the pole subtends a larger angle and as you get further away, the flagpole subtends a smaller angle.

Not trying to argue with you, rather just trying to understand.

No problem!

Your not comparing apples to apples. Your little man on the web link demands a FIXED SUBTENSION. IE the flag pole height is the CONSTANT, with distance & angle being the variable.

In shooting- the ANGLE is the CONSTANT with distance and target height(flag pole height) being the varibles.

Great questions. Your obviously applying your intelligence to your curiosity & inquiry.

TresMon
01-22-2012, 03:45 PM
From the angle you present- I feel that if you were to read a sports car magazine article that stated the new Corvette will do 0-60 in ____ seconds that you'd run around yelling "but not with watery gas! but not with watery gas!" Well good gas, like good ammo is the standard for TEST & evaluation and it's the assumed to those that consume the info.


As an aside- In rereading that segment I see how it could be taking as antagonistic or "pointed" at/to Kyratshooter. That was not my intent in the least. I was making a point but if anyone took it as antagonistic/pointed I make formal apology to Kyrat first & the community.

thanks.

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12-15-2025, 11:19 PM
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12-15-2025, 11:20 PM
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03-14-2026, 08:55 PM
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