Park Ranger shot

[vahtryn]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5i4uFc2vpBuwQidzvxhNxjdHGrQqg?docId=N07441413 25500169475A

[crashdive123]

Your link takes us to a sign up page for Google News.

Did you mean http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2017143109_apusmountrainiershooting21stldwritethru .html

[vahtryn]

Thanks for telling me four times ;) Guess I didn't notice that since I'm signed into my google account all the time. That is the article I was linking to just via google via ap.

[crashdive123]

Four times? Not sure what you mean by that.:innocent:

[LowKey]

My thoughts go to the family of the slain Ranger and hope no searchers are injured bringing this man out.

The end spin on that article just plain sucks though.

It has been legal for people to take loaded firearms into Mount Rainier since 2010, when a controversial federal law went into effect that made possession of firearms in national parks subject to state gun laws.
Even if law abiding citizens weren't allowed to bring guns into the Park, this murdering gunman would not have stopped at the gate and dumped his guns so as not to break the law. I hate stupidity in the media.

[BENESSE]

The gunman should be shot dead on sight. Plain and simple. Forget about bringing him out, forget about his side of the story.

[2dumb2kwit]

The end spin on that article just plain sucks though.


I saw an article, that said that they had no witnesses that saw the gunman, but the same article was saying that the ranger was shot with an "assualt rifle".

[COWBOYSURVIVAL]

Oh and "the guman has survivalist skills" Spinning away!

[TresMon]

I appreciate all the hero's: Firemen, EMS, soldiers & cops. I have a best friend that has been a cop for 15 years.

But I think that Game Wardens and Forest Rangers don't get NEAR enough credit or glory. For a cop if a situation deteriorates he can call in backup or even air support and have it fast. Wardens and park rangers are on their own, in the woods, with WHATEVER they come across- a mob of unlawful poachers, crazed militia dudes with illegal stuff, drug guys whatever. Alone and on their own.

Given the two scenarios.... I'd hope to be the cop!

[SARKY]

OH, but our parks are so safe and we who visit them are so safe from the 2 and 4 legged predators that the POSs in DC who never even visit the parks think we don't need the ability to defend ourselves.

[TresMon]

OH, but our parks are so safe and we who visit them are so safe from the 2 and 4 legged predators that the POSs in DC who never even visit the parks think we don't need the ability to defend ourselves.

Sarky,
Unless I'm grossly mistaken- the laws were FINALLY changed so that CCW holders could carry in parks and wma hunting areas, etc.

[LowKey]

The laws were changed to those carry laws of the state the Park is in.
I would imagine state reciprocity (or lack thereof) and permits all still apply.

As for carrying on WMA, check your local game laws. For instance no one in MA is allowed to carry a handgun on lands vaguely described as 'forested' and specifically WMA, during the two week shotgun deer season. Not just hunters. No one.

[woodsman86]

Don't forget that he was an "Iraq War Veteran" and has "PTSD," what a crappy article that journalist wrote. It is just so cliche to point the fingers at all the law-abiding, gun-toting, war veteran, survivalist because one person went nuts and was shooting at people. I think the only cliche they left out was race. The story forgot the emphasis that he had already "blown through" the snow-chain checkpoint, which is what started the unfortunate chain of events. Gun laws or not, he had no plan of stopping or abiding by the law no matter what they were.

I lived in that area for 6 years and spent a lot of time on Mt Rainier and the surrounding park. If he does not kill himself or they find him, he will be a victim of the elements. I feel sorry for the Park Ranger and her family. Eatonville is a nice town and I am sure they will pull together to help in anyway they can. I only hope this doesn't mean we have to go through body scanners before entering national parks now.

[ryaninmichigan]

I appreciate all the hero's: Firemen, EMS, soldiers & cops. I have a best friend that has been a cop for 15 years.

But I think that Game Wardens and Forest Rangers don't get NEAR enough credit or glory. For a cop if a situation deteriorates he can call in backup or even air support and have it fast. Wardens and park rangers are on their own, in the woods, with WHATEVER they come across- a mob of unlawful poachers, crazed militia dudes with illegal stuff, drug guys whatever. Alone and on their own.

Given the two scenarios.... I'd hope to be the cop!

I could nto agree more. I wanted to be a DNR officer until I talked with one. Never put much thought into it but almost everyone you come across will be armed and in the middle of no where.

[LowKey]

I used to do pre-development environmental wetland mapping back in the early 80s. My partner was a woman. Neither of us were armed. I wouldn't even consider doing that job today without a CCW.

[TresMon]

I could nto agree more. I wanted to be a DNR officer until I talked with one. Never put much thought into it but almost everyone you come across will be armed and in the middle of no where.

BINGO! perzactly my point!

[Rick]

I read an update that the gunman apparently took his own life. The Park Ranger was a mother of 2. Pretty sad all around.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57350970/body-found-believed-that-of-mt-rainier-gunman/
(http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57350970/body-found-believed-that-of-mt-rainier-gunman/)
I'm not sure why everyone is up in the air about the gun law comment. It's a fairly mundane fact.

[LowKey]

Took his own life. Good riddance.

As for the gun law comment. It's just the way it was worded. Had a few 10-point weighted words in there. And it wasn't pertinent to the article. It's become accepted practice to point out 'controversial' gun law decisions when it doesn't matter if there is a law or not in the current situation. Someone had to get it in there. Just like someone had to point it out. ;)

Two little kids. It's plain sad.

[SARKY]

I am well aware that the law was changed in 2010.....The problem is, why did it take that long to change the law? I still remember the Carrie Stainer crime in Yosemite.

[Rick]

But that's just an assumption you are making. For all you know the author is a life member of the NRA and put it in there because he was glad the law was changed. Maybe he had a word limit on the article and needed a filler. It's all in how you read it.

[COWBOYSURVIVAL]

Hard times are Real...

[Rick]

If you feel like you just have to off yourself. Like you can't make it one more day. That things are just so awful that it's not worth living and you need to wander off in the woods and end it all. Okay. Give it your best shot. But leave everyone else alone. Just go be stupid by yourself. Why does every moron have to take someone with them? If you do yourself in all by your lonesome I'll truly feel bad for you. If you harm a bunch of other folks in the process I'll be convinced you were a loser all along and probably should have ended your gene pool much sooner.

That didn't sound too harsh did it?

[jake abraham]

not at all

[BENESSE]

If you feel like you just have to off yourself. Like you can't make it one more day. That things are just so awful that it's not worth living and you need to wander off in the woods and end it all. Okay. Give it your best shot. But leave everyone else alone. Just go be stupid by yourself. Why does every moron have to take someone with them? If you do yourself in all by your lonesome I'll truly feel bad for you. If you harm a bunch of other folks in the process I'll be convinced you were a loser all along and probably should have ended your gene pool much sooner.

That didn't sound too harsh did it?

Harsh? Why, I don't believe you went far enough, R.
If you feel like you want to off yourself, why not buy a one way ticket to some nasty place where they hate us and take out a few bad people in the process? Might as well go out as a hero.

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