Enviromental Scientists - Suburbs Not Sustainable

[BraggSurvivor]

If the United States (the world for that matter) is ever to reduce its carbon emissions, suburbanites — that is, roughly half of all Americans, said William H. Frey, a demographer at the Brookings Institution — are going to have to play a big role.

But the problem with suburbs, many environmentalists say, is not an issue of light bulbs. In the end, the very things that make suburban life attractive — the lush lawns, spacious houses and three-car garages — also disproportionally contribute to global warming. Suburban life, these environmentalists argue, is simply not sustainable.

By one view, Mr. D’Souza is a pioneer — inhabiting a microscale model of the eco-friendly, futuristic, post-automobile suburb.

By another, his home turf seems more familiar.

It’s called a city.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/10/fashion/10suburbs.html?pagewanted=1&ei=5043&en=c4856f08894892d8&ex=1203310800&partner=EXCITE&adxnnlx=1202677932-0kTMPlAzWlN4u51FhbPjww

[BraggSurvivor]

Suburban life will collapse when the dollar collapses. The entire thing relies on cheap oil. Eh? Thoughts?

Cheers,

[Rick]

First, you have to believe the dollar is going to collapse. I don't happen to believe that. Second, why would you think suburban life would collapse if it does? People will continue to live where they live unless some natural force moves them. Certainly, a good number of people will lose their homes. That's happening now and always has, by the way. But they don't leave the city, they just look for some place else to live in the locale. Suburban life didn't collapse in the '30s. Just the opposite. The city was the only place that held jobs and people moved there looking for them. Look at the thousands that move to California (from the dust bowl states) looking for work.

People are creatures of habit and comfort zones. Mankind's comfort zone (en masse) is a nice comfortable life with a heat pump and plasma screen and microwave. No matter how bad things would ever get, they will try to migrate back to that because that's their comfort zone.

Good article, by the way. I just read another article about the manufacture of bio fules contribution to global warming. You can't win.

Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080208/ts_afp/environmentclimateusagriculture_080208092339

And:
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/02/07/biofuelscost/?rsssource=1

[RobertRogers]

I tend to a agree. One thing I see is that alot of people want massive, perfect lawns so they really put the weed killers and fertilizers to them - which leak into the ground water and get into the ecosystem.

Yeah, I know...who needs the ecosystem. We have grocery stores to feed us.

[FVR]

I hate my lawn. If it was up to me, I'd plant scrubby pine trees and be done with it. But, I have to cut it. So I cut it.

City living would be awsome, if they did not tax you to death. Taxes are sky high, water, trash, everything is mucho bucks. In Atl., the norther part of Fulton co. which is mostly very exp. homes and high taxes, pays for what south Fulton co. will not pay for because of the high poverty level.

Then if you live in the city limits, you're screwed royally.

So, we moved 40 miles north of Atl. to the App. foothills. Problem, seems like the rest of Atl. followed us.

[dilligaf2u2]

Just think, in 100yrs where will people live. The factory homes of the 1930 will be back and towns will all be settled around factories. You will walk to work and pay rent to the guys that hire you.

Dorm rooms for the single people and complexes for the married. Your status will determine where you live and what home you get.

Man Will Adapt.

Don

[Rick]

I know where I'll live....I'll be a tree, grass, flowers and weeds by then:rolleyes:

[wildWoman]

I don't understand why we are so convinced we need all these modern gadgets and amenities for our happiness and comfort. It really is no hardship to live without running water, electricity or car. If we could just wean ourselves off this totally inflated standard of living, it would be no big deal if things went sour (and there'd be less of an environmental impact, leaving us with clean water to drink, plants and animals to eat, and materials for housing). People tend to see it in a black-or-white way, living like a caveman versus keeping the condo, but there are so many ways to live simpler. Machinery is highly overrated I think. It does have its definite benefits, but many people would benefit from doing things by hand or on foot that currently some piece of equipment does for them, and they could save themselves the gym membership that way. I think I'm totally off topic now...

[tasmonia]

Maybe this thread is dead, but I thought I'd reply since I'm an environmental scientist of sorts and I stumbled across it.

I think that people who paint all suburbs with one brush and call them unsustainable are misguided and unfair. Suburbs are highly variable--more so than cities, I think. Sure, some are sprawling and serve only as sleeping places for people commuting great distances to the city. However, others contain vibrant and locally-oriented communities.

Businesses are increasingly moving out to the suburbs, and many people who live in the burbs actually do not work that far from where they live. Even within cities, residents may drive great distances to work, as many cities in the US are very spread out or the jobs may be located in neighboring suburbs or cities.

I agree that lawns are a time- and resource-consuming waste of space, but they are certainly better for the environment than concrete surfaces. Living in the burbs allows more space for pursuits like gardening, and in some municipalities, raising chickens. It also allows you easier access to outdoor activities like camping, hunting, fishing, etc...

Say what you will about shopping at bulk retailers, but living in a large suburban home and having access to places like Costco and Sam's Club actually allows you to make fewer shopping trips. Also, suburban homes may be larger than city homes, but they are often newer and probably far more efficient.

I've lived in city houses, both very new and very old, 1980's suburban houses, and now in a 1880s farmhouse (with modern windows, thankfully), and even spent some summers in rustic cabins and tents. I think all situations have their pros and cons, both on a personal level and on an environmental level. I think it is too easy to fear or despise the other (or even oneself!). No matter where you live, it is the choices you make about how you live that determine sustainability.

[crashdive123]

No matter where you live, it is the choices you make about how you live that determine sustainability.

Very well said --- very true.

[trax]

I hate my lawn. If it was up to me, I'd plant scrubby pine trees and be done with it. But, I have to cut it. So I cut it.

Now there's a kindred spirit.

and I absolutely agree with wildwoman. Need a workout? try shoveling snow, splitting firewood, or using one of those good old fashioned push mowers.

[FVR]

Wife has asked me a few times if I want to get a riding mower, because all my neighbors have one.

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaa...................


Ya know why? Cause all the guys that have those riding mowers, ARE FAT!

I don't push my mower, I run behind it, kinda like a mower sprint. Down the hill, up the hill, down the hill. Don't do it in the back, back you need to watch out for kiddy toys.

I cut the grass, not in the morning. In the afternoon when it's hot, to max. the workout.

One neighbor a few on the corner, gets his wife to mow the grass. Howdy do dat? He says he's allergic to grass, AND SHE BOUGHT IT!

[Chris]

I hate my mower...

I'm tall, 6'5, and the highest setting on the handle bar for the mower still results in me having to bend over slightly to push it, sucks on the back.

I don't know why they couldn't engineer it to rotate up further.

[tasmonia]

I don't push my mower, I run behind it, kinda like a mower sprint. Down the hill, up the hill, down the hill. Don't do it in the back, back you need to watch out for kiddy toys.



Hah I had to do this for a while when I was living in an old house with some other students. We only had the incredibly dull reel mower that came with the property. The only way to get it to do something resembling mowing was to get a good running start. Even then it mostly rolled down the lawn. We cut the edge with scissors. Thankfully the neighbor took pity on us (after a few months) and let us borrow his gas mower.

If the mower had been sharp (and we tried sharpening it with a rasp) it wouldn't have been so bad, but wow--that was a workout!

[Chris]

If the United States (the world for that matter) is ever to reduce its carbon emissions, suburbanites — that is, roughly half of all Americans, said William H. Frey, a demographer at the Brookings Institution — are going to have to play a big role.

But the problem with suburbs, many environmentalists say, is not an issue of light bulbs. In the end, the very things that make suburban life attractive — the lush lawns, spacious houses and three-car garages — also disproportionally contribute to global warming. Suburban life, these environmentalists argue, is simply not sustainable.

By one view, Mr. D’Souza is a pioneer — inhabiting a microscale model of the eco-friendly, futuristic, post-automobile suburb.

By another, his home turf seems more familiar.

It’s called a city.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/10/fashion/10suburbs.html?pagewanted=1&ei=5043&en=c4856f08894892d8&ex=1203310800&partner=EXCITE&adxnnlx=1202677932-0kTMPlAzWlN4u51FhbPjww
Consequently this doesn't make any sense.

Less dense housing is better for the environment because it means there is more green space.

Or is he referring to the typical person who lives in the suburbs and commutes many miles to the city? In which case it isn't the suburb but the commute and that is solved with better transportation technology, which we will have one day.

I won't argue that grass is a tremendous waste. It takes too much fertilizer, too much water, and people overwater it ridiculously. Turning your lawn into garden beds, in the end, saves on water, fertilizer, and labor.



Good article, by the way. I just read another article about the manufacture of bio fules contribution to global warming. You can't win.

Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080208...e_080208092339 (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080208/ts_afp/environmentclimateusagriculture_080208092339)

It does, and what is worse, millions of acres of brazillion rainforest are being burnt down to make room for biofuel farms. For you global warmingites, in pure CO2 terms, the carbon sequestration lost plus the carbon created by the burning is greater than what is produced by all the cars on the road. And yet we're doing this to substitute just a portion of our gas?

Ethanol is ridiculous, biofuels are a huge mistake. If they can find out a way to turn waste products into biofuel, recycling as it were, great, but using arable land for biofuels is a huge huge huge huge mistake and it is already biting the world in the ***.

[Sam Reeves]

I hate my mower...

I'm tall, 6'5, and the highest setting on the handle bar for the mower still results in me having to bend over slightly to push it, sucks on the back.

I don't know why they couldn't engineer it to rotate up further.

Figure out where it is binding and file it down. With a hammer, file, cold chisel and a hack saw a man can fix anything that isn't smarter than he is.

[flandersander]

I just read another article about the manufacture of bio fules contribution to global warming. You can't win.
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You know biodiesel does not contribute to carbon emmissions right? The plants get their nutrients and whatever else they need from the environment. So when the fuel is burned, it simply releases it back into the ecosystem, thus not adding any "bad" or greenhouse gasses to the atmosphere. At least thats how I think it is.

[Chris]

You know biodiesel does not contribute to carbon emmissions right? The plants get their nutrients and whatever else they need from the environment. So when the fuel is burned, it simply releases it back into the ecosystem, thus not adding any "bad" or greenhouse gasses to the atmosphere. At least thats how I think it is.
Nope, you've got the science a little wrong.

True, while growing the plant absorbs some CO2, but not all from the air, and it isn't a zero sum equation. You also have to factor in.

1. The CO2 created from the vehicles used to farm the land (tractors, etc).
2. The CO2 created by the energy needed to power the refining process.
3. The CO2 opportunity cost of not having forest on that land instead of a farm.
4. The CO2 created when forestland is cleared and turned into crop land.

For corn, which is a water and fertilizer intense crop, you also have to figure.

5. The CO2 created during the creation & transport of fertilizer to the farm.
6. The environmental problems when that fertilizer washes into a river or stream.
7. The CO2 created by energy used to pump or provide irrigation.
8. The use of water for more cropland when our fresh water supplies in some parts of the country are tight.

In general you may also consider things like the Midwest flooding. The Mississippi River has a flood plain, it needs a flood plain, by putting up barriers to prevent it from flooding so we can have more farmland you're just pissing the river off, making it deeper, faster, and making it more risky that it'll have a catastrophic flood.

So big picture time... you only get about 1.3 gallons of ethanol for every 1 gallon of oil used to create it. Then, in a car engine, e85 runs at about 70% the efficiency of gasoline, ie you burn more to go the same distance. Ergo... no benefit. And those figures don't even take into account the opportunity cost of using the land for corn instead of another crop and or forest.

In the end corn ethanol only makes sense if you're a politician from a farm state, or otherwise have donations for agribusiness or ethanol refineries. OTher types of ethanol are more energy efficient to produce. But still... when you read about the millions of acres of Brazillian rainforest being burn so THEY can make ethanol for fuel, it is shame.

[tasmonia]

In general you may also consider things like the Midwest flooding. The Mississippi River has a flood plain, it needs a flood plain, by putting up barriers to prevent it from flooding so we can have more farmland you're just pissing the river off, making it deeper, faster, and making it more risky that it'll have a catastrophic flood.

Just to elaborate on this, it's not just increasing farmland but converting more and more acres to corn and soybeans that adds to the flooding problems. In my area, a lot of acreage used to be in pasture and have a more varied rotation. Now it's mostly corn and beans and the majority of the fields have tile drainage. With nothing growing on the land early in the season to suck up the water, all the spring rainfall goes directly into the rivers.

Many people around here blame the housing developments for the increase in flooding problems, but that's only part of the picture. All of the land needs to be managed better to alleviate the problems.

[Arkansas_Ranger]

I don't understand why we are so convinced we need all these modern gadgets and amenities for our happiness and comfort. It really is no hardship to live without running water, electricity or car. If we could just wean ourselves off this totally inflated standard of living, it would be no big deal if things went sour (and there'd be less of an environmental impact, leaving us with clean water to drink, plants and animals to eat, and materials for housing). People tend to see it in a black-or-white way, living like a caveman versus keeping the condo, but there are so many ways to live simpler. Machinery is highly overrated I think. It does have its definite benefits, but many people would benefit from doing things by hand or on foot that currently some piece of equipment does for them, and they could save themselves the gym membership that way. I think I'm totally off topic now...


It isn't a hardship to live without running water, electricity, or a car? Without electricity we wouldn't be able to produce nearly as much literature as is produced today. Rooms would be darker, and people would read less. People would be less educated thereby having a weaker economic standing. That leads to decreased healthcare and a number of other "hardships."

How can I assert this? I help run a 19th century historic park. It's all in history. We move forward in life to better lives.

Sure, somethings such as carbon emissions are hurting us, however, we're allowed few alternatives. Politics isn't eco-friendly right now. Maybe someday it will be. Until then it isn't. We can reduce our demand on our energy and possibly make conservative efforts to travel around during the day. Unfortunately, without transportation, the goods we need will be so spread out they'll be difficult to obtain.

No need for running water? Very few other things have changed the face of human lifestyles more. The ability to have water to drink, clean, and cook with all on demand is not a simple thing to give up. Do you think a family of eight would have taken a bath in the same water 200 years ago if they didn't have to? Of course not, but how difficult do you think it was to fill 15 gallons into a tub from a bucket well much less heat it up first?

I have no plans on ever living off the grid. I don't think we'll have to. Life may get more difficult. Items may become more expensive. Pollution may worsen, but we'll find a way to adapt. Humans always have.

[smokelessfire]

Tell me something, whats better for the oxygen content of the air, a massive GREEN lawn, or a massive BRICK BUILDING. You can breathe in the output of the BRICK BUILDING, and I will breathe in the output of the LAWN. see who lives longer, ok??

[smokelessfire]

ever see smog over suburbia??? i've only seen it over large filthy cities. las vegas, LA.

[ryaninmichigan]

Global warming is nothing more than a money maker. I like my big yard, big house. I lived in an apartment once for a year. Did not work for me. I hated it.

[Rick]

I've posted on this before but here's my cut once again:

Alcohol as a fuel additive has been around for a long time. It was used in the 1920s to prevent engine knock. But the truth about ethyl alcohol or ethanol is it generates less horsepower than gasoline. Less horsepower means less fuel economy or fewer miles per gallon. The result is you have to burn more fuel to go the same distance. That means you have to fill up more often and that means an increase in gasoline consumption, not a decrease. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Here's how it really works.

CAFE Numbers:
Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards, which are set by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), establish the average fuel economy for an automaker's full fleet of vehicles. Currently, the minimum miles-per-gallon is 27.5 for cars and 21.6 for light trucks (2006 numbers). That means that an automaker must average 27.5 mpg for their entire fleet of cars from the worst gas guzzler to their most miserly model. But wait! Not so fast. It isn't that simple. Auto manufacturers are also granted fuel economy "credits" for every flexible fuel vehicle (called FFVs) they make. In short, the government rates FFVs at about 1 1/2 times the fuel economy they actually get. For example, a vehicle that is normally rated at 19 mpg would be rated at 28.5 mpg if it were equipped with a flexible fuel engine. That artificially inflates the CAFE numbers for the auto manufacturers.

The result has been that auto makers have equipped their larger vehicles, typically SUVs, with flexible fuel engines because they are popular and the credits artificially boost the MPG rating for those vehicles. Instead of actually saving gasoline, the move has increased consumption of gasoline by about 1 percent, or 1.2 billion gallons, according to a 2005 study by the Union of Concerned Scientists.

My second concern is that E-85 cannot be used on all engines unlike E-10 or 10% ethanol fuels. It's also very difficult to find a service station that sells E-85. Those limitations mean E-85 may be a stronger competitor as more FFVs are manufactured but limits its practicality today.

E-85 is more environmentally friendly than gasoline but it still emits acetaldehyde, a probable carcinogen and ethanol, even E-10, is in short supply. In fact, we imported about 7,200 barrels per day (bbl/d) of ethanol from Brazil in 2005.

Finally, studies are underway on cellulosic ethanol, a product that can be made from other sources such as wood pulp, corn stalks sugarcane or switch grass. This appears to be a more promising solution than ethanol generated from corn. Brazil has been utilizing sugarcane based ethanol for nearly thirty years.

For the foreseeable future, I believe biodiesel, diesel, electric, hydrogen, natural-gas, and more efficient gasoline cars are the solution to the complex problem of energy efficiency.

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