Couple of questionable statements...

[RangerXanatos]

I have been told somethings that I'm not so sure about and would like your input.

Animals are afraid of red light. So if you hang a red glow stick, it will deter animals.
I just can't wrap my head around this. I would think think that any light like that, except for a fire because of smoke, would make an animal curious or not have any affect on it.

Bears don't hibernate in the southern states.
This I could see. Here in Georgia, we don't get very cold temperatures like our northern friends. Today, we got up in the 60's. With temperatures getting this high, I don't see the need for a bear to hibernate for the cold, but possible for the lack of food.

Reflective blankets only work if they are against bare skin.
I just cannot see the truth in this. Wouldn't it reflect heat back if you were clothed?

Any now one I've been wondering to myself:
You were wearing cotton innerwear and wool outerwear but everything is soaked with water. What would be the best way to warm up?
A) I know wool keeps insulation properties when wet, but would you need to remove the cotton before you have those affects?

Wouldn't it be better to remove the cotton and just wear the wool IF? cotton will remove heat faster than wool insulates?
B) A fire is going and the air is still, would it be best to remove all clothing to quickly get dry and warm, or would you leave the wool on since it's already insulative when wet to warm up and dry off simultaneously?

No clue
C) Same as "B" but with a strong wind?

Wouldn't leaving the wool on be better as it would serve as a sort of a break to help keep the wind chill off?

Thanks guys,
Daniel

[Wise Old Owl]

Posted in wrong thread - my apologies..

[RangerXanatos]

Your are out of your mind - killing any idea of UFO's, exsistance of Bigfoot and sheltermice....

How did this add to the discussion? If you read the whole post, you would have seen that they are statements that I have questions about and then my thoughts following those statements.

[crashdive123]

I'll take a stab at it - just my thoughts on the questions - didn't look them up to verify my accuracy.

1. False - quite a few animals are color blind. If it worked, there would be hiking gear sold with built in red lights - we could make millions.
2. True - sort of. In Florida (probably the same for other southern states) the Black Bears will spend the majority of their time in their den. Pregnant females will have their litter and not leave the den. Males and non-pregnant females will leave the den to forage.
3. False. They may be more efficient if they are against the skin (closer to the heat source), but they will reflect heat if used over clothing (think military trauma blankets)
4. I would remove the wet cotton under layer regardless of the wind. Wool, while insulating, does not make a good wind break. The wet cotton will act like a heat sink and draw heat from your body.

Anyway - those are my thoughts on it.

[crashdive123]

Oops - I sort of missed b and c for your last one. I would leave the wool on in both cases.

[gryffynklm]

#1 Bear can see red but tend to be stronger in the blue range. I tried to find the source but couldn't locate it. I don't remember any thing about being afraid of the color. Deer on the other hand are color blind. This is from memory, like Crash said I didn't look it up. I have no point of reference on the other questions.

[Rick]

1. Animals can see different portions of the light spectrum than we can. Just because you see light in the red portion of the spectrum doesn't mean that animals do. That's why we wear hunter orange. Even if they see it they may not "perceive" it the same. They probably stay away because of the human smells more so than the red light.

2. Can't help you on the bears.

3. There is a difference between reflecting and trapping. If you wrap the blanket around your nude body then it will both trap and reflect the body heat back at your. If you wrap it around your clothing then you will trap the body heat inside the cocoon you've created just like you do with any other blanket. The factors at play would be whether your clothes are wet or dry, outside air temperature (is it too low to overcome) and wind.

4. It has to do with the stitch of the cotton and wool fabric. Cotton fabric has tiny holes between each stitch that allow ventilation through the material. It doesn't matter if it's wet or dry that hole is there. Wool, on the other hand, swells when it gets wet and closes that hole. If you left both layers of fabric on then your body heat would escape through the cotton fabric and be stopped by the wool. Since no air is flowing across the cotton fabric to reduce it's temperature you should be warm whether you wear the cotton or not. The thing you would want to take into consideration is the outside air temp. How much body heat will you loose by removing your clothes to remove the cotton fabric? You may not be able to recover your heat loss.

In your scenario of a fire with no wind I would remove the cotton and wear the wool just to dry the cotton clothes.

With a fire and strong wind I'd leave everything on. You don't specify the temp but I'm assuming you mean it's cold. I'd opt for the fire and stay dressed.

Cotton does not pull heat from the body. The tiny holes between the stitches allow the outside air to reach your skin and your body heat to flow out of the fabric. Someone may argue conduction but if that were true wool would conduct your body heat too but it doesn't.

[RangerXanatos]

Awesome, guys! So everyone elses thoughts were the same as mine on the first three statements.

Thanks for the info on the wool + cotton questions.

[socom2173]

If you have a Cotton Base Layer it WILL be wet.
It absorbs moisture It will keep you wet and cold.
Ditch the Cotton!

[lucznik]

I have been told somethings that I'm not so sure about and would like your input.

Animals are afraid of red light. So if you hang a red glow stick, it will deter animals.
I just can't wrap my head around this. I would think think that any light like that, except for a fire because of smoke, would make an animal curious or not have any affect on it.

Bears don't hibernate in the southern states.
This I could see. Here in Georgia, we don't get very cold temperatures like our northern friends. Today, we got up in the 60's. With temperatures getting this high, I don't see the need for a bear to hibernate for the cold, but possible for the lack of food.

Reflective blankets only work if they are against bare skin.
I just cannot see the truth in this. Wouldn't it reflect heat back if you were clothed?

Any now one I've been wondering to myself:
You were wearing cotton innerwear and wool outerwear but everything is soaked with water. What would be the best way to warm up?
A) I know wool keeps insulation properties when wet, but would you need to remove the cotton before you have those affects?

Wouldn't it be better to remove the cotton and just wear the wool IF? cotton will remove heat faster than wool insulates?
B) A fire is going and the air is still, would it be best to remove all clothing to quickly get dry and warm, or would you leave the wool on since it's already insulative when wet to warm up and dry off simultaneously?

No clue
C) Same as "B" but with a strong wind?

Wouldn't leaving the wool on be better as it would serve as a sort of a break to help keep the wind chill off?

Thanks guys,
Daniel

1. As already mentioned this would be highly dependant upon what animals we are discussing. The deer species are largely color blind and would not see the light at all. Turkeys, ducks, geese, and other birds, on the other hand, generally have very keen color-sensitive eyesight. So too with many (most) predators. I would think that their responses would be dependant on their conditioning; on what they are used to seeing each day. The mere presence of the color red would not be the critical issue.

2. Actually there is some debate as to whether any bears anywhere actually hybernate. Here is a little snippit from the BearTrust International website on the topic:


Hibernation is a biological mechanism whereby animals conserve energy, especially during winter when food resources are scarce. During hibernation, stored body fat is used up at a slower rate. Hibernation is characterized by a state of inactivity and low metabolic functioning, low body temperature, and slow breathing.

Many animals hibernate, including bats, ground squirrels and other rodents, mouse lemurs, many insectivores, monotremes, some snakes, and marsupials. There is some discussion as to whether the most famous hibernator, the bear, actually hibernates. During the bear’s denning period, his metabolic state is significantly less depressed than that of other smaller hibernating mammals. As a consequence, many people use the term “winter lethargy” to describe this state for bears, rather than hibernation. (emphasis added)

3. The reflective blanket has no idea if you are clothed or not. If there are heat waves for it to reflect, then it will do so.

4a. If it were cold and I was already wet, but covered in wool, there is no way I would remove the wool just to remove cotton underwear. Too much body heat would be lossed getting undressed and then redressed to make the exercise worthwhile. The wool retains 80% of its insulating properties even when wet. This is one of its properties that makes it such a great outdoor fabric. Like the reflective blanket, it too has no idea what kind of other clothing you are wearing. It simply holds in whatever heat is there. If the cotton underwear is being worn under the wool (which we sure hope it is as otherwise it would be embarrassing to all) it cannot remove heat faster than the wool can insulate because all of that heat has to get through the wool outer layer before it can be lossed.

I have hunted ducks many times with cotton as my "base layer" (why does noone just call this "underwear" anymore?) in temperature as low as -20* F - the simple economics of personal finances mean that I haven't always had the funds to buy fancy "base layers." Wearing cotton has never guaranteed my becoming wet or cold. I just had to be more careful not to overexert myself thus getting sweaty. There may have been better options, but better options aren't always available options.

b. If a nice, big, hot fire is already going strong and I'm already basically warm and reasonably safe, then I would remove clothing layers to help them get dry. If I was shivering and cold, then I would just stay by the fire fully clothed until I warmed up some. (BTW, I can't imagine this ever happening, but just for the sake of the conversation, if somehow I wasn't wearing wool but rather some other fancy, synthetic material, my answer to this question might easily change. I just don't trust many of these new man-made "super-fabrics.")

c. Essentially a combo of a. and b. When I am warm enough that removing clothes would not be a danger, then and only then would I worry about drying out my clothes.

[hunter63]

Just a quick note, a canvas decoy bag will keep your lower half reasonably warm and dry while drying out unders, pants, hip boots, kinda hard to stand up and shoot though.......

Looked like laundry day on the island.

[Rick]

If you have a Cotton Base Layer it WILL be wet.
It absorbs moisture It will keep you wet and cold.
Ditch the Cotton!

The only way you will be wet with cotton undies is if you sweat. The goal in winter is not to sweat. Ventilate to avoid it.
I don't like cotton in the winter, either, but I'm just going with the post. At least that's what I'd do.

[crashdive123]

Yeah but.........in the OP everything somehow got soaked with water.

[Rick]

Water. Not sweat. Biiiiiiig difference.

[socom2173]

"Water. Not sweat. Biiiiiiig difference."

:confused1:

[Rick]

It's a joke. Let me grab my trusty crayon and paper.........This is humor.........this is timing............Hey! Who stole my danged blue crayon?!

[lucznik]

Don't look at me.

I avoid blue... it makes me sad.

:angelwings:

[hossthehermit]

Many lights that are designed for night hunting for predators use a red lens, to avoid frightening the intended target.

[Rick]

....and to save your night vision.

[Batch]

Southern Black Bears (Florida) are taken out to palmetto thickets when they are hit by cars or otherwise injured. He will go into a state of "hibernation" while their wounds heal.

http://www.mvshospital.com/black-bear.htm

[Rick]

To me that's completely counter-intuitive. I'm not saying they are wrong. I'm just saying I would have never thought that would have been the correct course of action. That's pretty wild. I get their reasoning however.

[hunter63]

Southern Black Bears (Florida) are taken out to palmetto thickets when they are hit by cars or otherwise injured. He will go into a state of "hibernation" while their wounds heal.

http://www.mvshospital.com/black-bear.htm

Actually I get the reasoning as well.....sometimes it better to let nature take it's course.
The bears either recover ...or become compost, either way trying to keep a patched up bear seems like a non-natural act.

[Jergg]

1. Never heard of the red light thing. I'm highly suspicious.

2. Bears don't hibernate, anywhere. They will go into a very deep sleep during the colder months (I'm in Canada) but I have seen them wandering around in winter.

3. "Space blankets" work only if THERE IS AN AIR SPACE (ie: other clothes) between the body and the blanket. They radiate body heat back to the person. A metal foil layer AGAINST the skin will suck heat away by conduction. (This can easily be tested with a space blanket, a cold windy night, and your butt-naked body.)

[Rick]

Ooops! Not true. Bears do in fact hibernate. They are facultative hibernators. So are bats, by the way. They can be aroused but if left alone will sleep the entire winter. You're welcome to call it denning if you wish but the fact remains they will stay in their den, asleep, unless some external force arouses them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibernation


Ooops. Wrong again on the space blanket...sort of. It reduces the conduction of body heat away from the body because it's not a metal foil layer. It's constructed of PET film or Biaxially-oriented polyethylene terephthalate if you prefer. It's actually polyethylene. Mylar would be a good example and a brand name for that type of material. It also constructed inside the Cold Weather Bivies because it reflects body heat. It's such an effective blocker of heat conduction the Taliban use it to shield their IR signature.

So the next time you see a Space Blanket running across the desert just shoot it. It's probably a bad guy.

[hunter63]

So a space blanket isn't metallic?
No worries about getting struck by lightning?

[Rick]

It is Biax....borax....what I said up there.

[lucznik]

Ooops! Not true. Bears do in fact hibernate. They are facultative hibernators. So are bats, by the way. They can be aroused but if left alone will sleep the entire winter. You're welcome to call it denning if you wish but the fact remains they will stay in their den, asleep, unless some external force arouses them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibernation

Actually your own link establishes that bear hibernation is not considered a "true" hibernation by some:

bears have a different type of hibernation that some have not considered "true hibernation".During a bear's winter sleep state, the degree of metabolic depression is much less than that observed in smaller mammals and the bear's body temperature remains relatively stable (depressed from 37 °C (99 °F) to approximately 31 °C (88 °F)). Increasing the body temperature for such a large animal would take a long time. Many prefer to use the term "denning" or "winter lethargy" but others just consider it a different form of hibernation.
One of the "some" mentioned in the Wiki article would be Dr. Melissa Reynolds-Hogland, one of the nation's foremost authorities on bears and the executive director of Bear Trust International, "a non-profit organization that identifies needs in bear conservation and gaps in conservation knowledge, develops projects to address conservation needs, delivers scientific results to on-the-ground wildlife managers to positively affect conservation, [and] delivers free education programs based on science to students in grades K-12."
I suppose for the layman it doesn't make much difference but, for some the distinction between hibernation and winter lethargy is quite significant.


Ooops. Wrong again on the space blanket...sort of. It reduces the conduction of body heat away from the body because it's not a metal foil layer. It's constructed of PET film or Biaxially-oriented polyethylene terephthalate if you prefer. It's actually polyethylene. Mylar would be a good example and a brand name for that type of material. It also constructed inside the Cold Weather Bivies because it reflects body heat. It's such an effective blocker of heat conduction the Taliban use it to shield their IR signature.

According to Wikipedia the Mylar space blanket was:

First developed by NASA in 1964 for the US space program, the material consists of a thin sheet of plastic (often PET film) that is coated with a metallic reflecting agent, making it metallized polyethylene terephthalate (MPET), usually gold or silver in color, which reflects up to 97% of radiated heat.
This is contradicted (a little) by Field and Stream which, in an article by Keith McCafferty published in December of 2009, reports that:

the material—essentially plastic sheeting vapor-coated with metallic particles—was first used commercially in the 1950s as an avant-garde wall covering in bathrooms. The fad might easily have died in the loo, but NASA saw the advantages of a material that could at once repel the intense heat of the sun and protect the dark side of a spacecraft from the subzero cold of space. By the time Apollo 11 touched down on the moon in 1969, the fabric had advanced; Neil Armstrong's space suit was made of space-blanket material that included a layer of pure gold.

Civilians have always had to settle for aluminum. But while the metal may be cheap, the results aren't. No other material has the ability to reflect body heat so efficiently, and because life insurance never came at such a minimum weight and low price, the space blanket rapidly became a staple in nearly every outdoorsman's pack.
I realize that F&S is not exactly an authoritative, academically rigorous, or "peer reviewed" source but, then again, neither is Wikipedia.

Irrespective of the minor variations in the telling of its history, the thing to remember is that space blankets are called such not because they don't take up much space but because they were used (if not actually developed) by NASA partly for reflecting an astronauts body heat. These astronauts always wear clothing under their "space suits" and so the idea that clothing would hamper the material's ability to reflect your body heat is nonsense.

[Rick]

First, if I'm sleeping all winter, I'm hibernating. I'm one of the ones that call it that. My wife would call it lazy so she would be counted in the "not" group.

I don't think anyone said the material wouldn't reflect body heat through clothes. The question on the table, I think, was whether it would conduct heat away from the body if you were naked.

[lucznik]

I don't think anyone said the material wouldn't reflect body heat through clothes. The question on the table, I think, was whether it would conduct heat away from the body if you were naked.

Oops, I think I misread Crash's post. Not the first time - nor probably the last.

I blame him.

[JPGreco]

Space blankets work wether clothed or not by the way they work. They reflect radiat heat back. So if you have clothes on, any of that heat that escapes your clothing will be reflected back. If you don't have clothes on, it will still reflect it back. Jerg is incorrect in saying that they do not work when naked. Marathon runners are wrapped in space blankets after marathons, who are are in very thin material, because after such physical exertion the body goes into a type of shock and regulating their body temperature becomes difficult and usually starts to drop. The blankets help keep them warm. I would be more wary of the wind factor when using a space blanket because unless you can seal it around yourself, the wind can get it and move the warm air away which will rapidly conduct warmth out of your body.

[Rick]

Well, one thing we can all agree on...If I'm naked then ya'll would be breakin' your necks to hand me a space blanket, an earth blanket, an ocean blanket or any other kind of blanket you could find. But I won't be naked. I always carry a spare hong.

[JPGreco]

oh, so close.... hong huh? lol

[Jergg]

First, if I'm sleeping all winter, I'm hibernating. I'm one of the ones that call it that. .

Not sure how to answer that logic...:confused: The only thing I can say is "When arguing with a fool be sure they are not doing the same thing."

[intothenew]

Animals are afraid of red light. So if you hang a red glow stick, it will deter animals.


Kinda, sorta, maybe. This product (http://www.safehomeproducts.com/shp2/sc/shopexd.aspx?id=274606&PLC=1&GFM=41&referer=http://www.safehomeproducts.com/shp2/product/nite-guard-night-animal-control-solar-light/electronic-pest-control/274606/274606.aspx&EOR=x&ESR=2&dir=shp2&b=ff2e&w=1440&h=717&f=N&tp=99999&frompg=99&topg=99&menupage=0) is marketed on the presumption that it imitates an eye flash. If their research results are true, you simply need to learn morse code and flash, "Are you gonna pull those teeth, or whistle dixie?".

You can read a short blog pimping the product here (http://www.safe-home.com/post/2010/05/23/solar-powered-nite-guard-flashes-red-lights-to-keep-night-predators-away.aspx).

[Rick]

You're not arguing with me. You're arguing with the literature. I don't know a bare from a bear. Don't live around 'em, don't go lookin' for 'em. But you're welcome to call it anything you want. You just can't call me anything you want. Well, actually you can 'cause it doesn't bother me.

[Wise Old Owl]

How did this add to the discussion? If you read the whole post, you would have seen that they are statements that I have questions about and then my thoughts following those statements.

My humble apologies - I had at the time multiple windows open - and this is clearly in the wrong thread.

[Wise Old Owl]

Rick a couple of things about space blankets - from your post I believe that the "boy scout" vs what you are mentioning are vastly different. The boy scout version or thin mylar I have used in the field on a cool 50 degree night they will work for three hours. Then you wake up covered in cold sweat, raining from the blanket you shake it off and then repeat every hour there after... miserable night - but you will be alive.

I tried putting the blanket between a IR alarm system of several types - the alarm catches the heat behind the blanket every time. I worked several years at ADT.

[Rick]

The ones I referenced are manufactured by MPI. They invented the original space blanket for NASA and of course there are tons of copies on the market. Grabber just recently bought out MPI (I'm pretty sure) but still make it under the MPI name. It's the only one I've messed with or spent any time investigating. I probably should have pointed that out but didn't think about it.

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