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natertot
10-19-2011, 08:18 PM
Okay guys. I got my first sharpening stone. I have a diamond one that has 325 grit on one side and 750 grit on the other. I have never sharpened a knife before in my life, so I am open to any hints, tips, suggestions and etc before I take a hack at it. Okay, perhaps "hack at it" isn't the best choice of words!
Thanks in advance guys.
COWBOYSURVIVAL
10-19-2011, 09:13 PM
20 degrees is a standard angle to hold your blade against the stone. Best to follow the bevel that already is on the knife. Push the knife into the sharpener like your trying to cut it. Push away from you then back towards you...:whistling: The coarse grit will cut the teeth in the edge the fine edge will sharpen them. In a clean motion start at the back of the blade ending at the tip. I have never used a diamond stone. Currently I am using a Soft Arkansas Oil Stone made by Case. I roll my knives up to 25 degrees at the belly to hold an edge longer. It taskes practice...good luck!
My first piece of advice is do NOT use a high quality knife that you like. Find a relatively cheap carbon knife that has a good cutting edge, dull it and then try to bring it back to the same level of quality. Once you can do that regularly then you can move on to your more expensive knives. If you bum up an expensive knife edge and don't know how to sharpen it what are you going to do with the knife until you learn how?
JPGreco
10-19-2011, 10:24 PM
I may have to give that a try. I've never sharpened a knife on a stone and I have an old schrade that could use some working.
crashdive123
10-19-2011, 10:27 PM
Yep - practice on cheap ole kitchen knives.
But ask your wife first. If you don't get a sharp edge back on it she may hack you to death with a dull blade.
natertot
10-20-2011, 12:05 AM
But ask your wife first. If you don't get a sharp edge back on it she may hack you to death with a dull blade.
That could be the explaination to the Lorena Bobbit incident!
I have a few knives that I picked up at garage sales I think that I will start with. I think they are stainless steel though. Is there any big deal about blade material? I am not a metal guru and don't really understand the importance of metal with blades. I know that aluminum blade I sue to have wouldn't wouldn't hold an edge though!
MiddleWolf
10-20-2011, 12:29 AM
If you can find some Chicago Cutlery knives at yard or estate sales, they make excellent practice knives as the older ones have mostly carbon steel blades. After getting it down fairly regularly you can pass them on to Goodwill or the Salvation Army as some sharp and usable tools. Or sell em at you own G Sale.
Sparky93
10-20-2011, 01:09 AM
I am learning how to do this right along with you Natertot! Something I have found that helps me (I don't know if this is advisable, anyone please chime in if this is good or bad to do) is to take a marker and mark the beveled edge of the blade to make sure when I pass it over the stone, I make contact evenly across the blade and at the proper angle.
JPGreco
10-20-2011, 12:39 PM
^^ I read that somewhere. It's supposed to help you, but I don't quite understand what is meant by it. Is the bevel the part right after the actual edge of the knife? My knifes have three surfaces. The part by the spine is usually flat. The next part is angled a little. The final part is the cutting edge. I assume the bevel is that middle part?
Nater, your stainless steel knives are a lot harder than the carbon ones, which makes it harder to put a sharp edge on one. That's why I recommended a carbon blade. The softer metal makes it easier to resharpen.
Sparky93
10-20-2011, 03:31 PM
^^ I read that somewhere. It's supposed to help you, but I don't quite understand what is meant by it. Is the bevel the part right after the actual edge of the knife? My knifes have three surfaces. The part by the spine is usually flat. The next part is angled a little. The final part is the cutting edge. I assume the bevel is that middle part?
I have some knifes like that too, the knife I use the marker on has only two surfaces if that makes sense.
kyratshooter
10-20-2011, 05:09 PM
This is one of the reasons the scandinavian grind has become so popular, it is foolproof. You lay the blade against the stone, raise it untill the bevel is flat on the stone and slide the blade across the stone at that set angle that goes from spine to edge.
You did not buy a Mora like we recomended did you? See what happens when you don't listen.
The new edge set at the factory on most knives is not satisfactory for general use. If you want real cutting you will have to ignore the internet angle chart and go with a 10-15 degree angle which requires that you completely erase the factory edge. It usually takes an hour or two to get a proper edge established. A difficult development in our instant world.
This is real TV work. Get used to the angle you need on the blade, then sit down and watch TV while you drive everyone around crazy with the sound of the knife on the diamond plate.
Sparky93
10-20-2011, 07:20 PM
You did not buy a Mora like we recomended did you? See what happens when you don't listen.
Were you talking to me? Because I did buy a mora, but that stone is not coming anywhere near my mora until I feel I am good enough to not just dull it lol....
oldtrap59
10-20-2011, 07:41 PM
As Rick said. Be careful if you use the wife's knives for practice. I personally have my wife spoiled when it comes to the knives in the kitchen. I don't mind cooking or prepping at all in the kitchen but I can't stand a dull knife. Now she's the same way. So if she feels the knife is even a little bit on the dull side I get a call to use what she now calls my magic on the blade. Two things I would say to the person just starting to use any kind of stone for sharpening,(1) practice, practice,practice and more practice, (2) Once you get a good working edge keep it sharp, don't let it get to dull. It's easier to keep it sharp then to get it sharp if you let it get to bad.
Oldtrap
natertot
10-20-2011, 09:24 PM
I have an old carbon blade that is about three years old. I have had someone sharpen it a few times in the past, but not recently. I retired it from every day service since I put a pretty good chip in it about a year ago. I just keep it on my work bench as a handy beater knife. Well, I spent a solid hour on it today and it is the sharpest that I can remember. Wish that it didn't have the chip in the blade. I will continue to practice more on it, but it isn't too difficult to do. I think the biggest thing at first was to figure out a good "motion" on sweeping the blade over the stone. After that, it was all about figuring the angle. Right now, I would say it is just as sharp as my everyday knife. I might run my everyday knife on the stone in another week or so if I'm that confident by then. Just don't wanna mess up my Boker!
If the chip isn't too deep in the blade you should be able to work it out. If it is deep then a grinder or rotary sander should be able to take the blade down past the chip.
natertot
10-21-2011, 03:09 PM
If the chip isn't too deep in the blade you should be able to work it out. If it is deep then a grinder or rotary sander should be able to take the blade down past the chip.
Good ideas, but the chip is smack in the middle of the blade and goes in a bit. I will just keep it as a beater knife.
canid
10-21-2011, 03:29 PM
if you want to take it out, take it to a belt or disk. 200 grit is good.
Crap. I said rotary. I meant belt sander. What Canid said.
natertot
10-21-2011, 05:09 PM
Yeah, I'm not too worried about it. I got my Boker that I really enjoy. Besides, I like have a beater knife on my work bench. It is convienent when I need to do a light scraping or open a package a new part came it. It just sits there at the ready for me.
FireSteel703
10-21-2011, 08:42 PM
How it's sharpened depends on the type of grind it has as well. For instance, scandi grinds are sharpened a little differently than some other grinds.
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