Your thoughts are needed?

[SemperFi]

Especially if you own one of these :

Ruger LC9: 9mm

KelTec PF9: 9mm

Smith & Wesson Bodyguard: .380 acp

they are in a category thats become popular and although Im not generally a big fan of these pocket guns , I like the fact I can carry it in my "pocket" , Im gonna say this once , if you live in an urban area or frequent there , you should be carrying ,I dont give damn about ccw laws , but y'all do what you think is neccessary ,I can tell you from experience "the bad guy carries concealed " and he isnt worried about the cops , the fear factor is what stops most of us law abiders , "will they catch me " kinda like driving without your drivers license I know it sounds stupid but we are trained to believe this ,that its wrong or against the law ,so we dont do it! I spent 20 years in Law Enforcement , Im telling you ; advocating "carry concealed" ,Im not betting on the cops to save my life or my wifes life , how many minutes gone by before they arrive? How often does a crime happen with a cop standing next to you? NEVER! If you like those odds wait for the cops , also call an ambulance , because you or your family will need that as well!


as quoted from "theturthaboutguns" I’d rather stake my life on the old adage “practice makes perfect.” If shooting a gun is like shaking hands with a cactus, you ain’t gonna practice often enough to achieve more-than-merely-adequate proficiency, and I reckon you can’t have too much proficiency in the armed self-defense department. basically meaning if you just throw the pocket gun in the pocket you cant expect bullseyes , you might hit the target and that might be all thats needed to escape , but if you want the target to not get up ,PRACTICE!

Now they say these small guns have disadvantages when it comes to amounts, yes both of these do because they are single stack mags ,carrying 7 rounds roughly another good reason to hit the range and practice , no reason to get ahead of yourself because your carrying a 9mm instead of a .380 or less! If you cant hit anything , you wasted several seconds of your getaway standing still!

[jake abraham]

I agree with you if you can't hit what you are shooting at it don't matter what you carry

[Rick]

"Your thoughts are needed?"

What was the question?

[SARKY]

All things being equal as to proficiency, the larger the caliber the better. Next would be capacity.

[SemperFi]

well I agree to some extent Sarky , but lugging around a 45 all day on top of my regular back breaking work gets old quick , hence the need for a pocket pistol , it actually is pretty nice having somthing you dont even need a holster for! Just in case you need it!

[natertot]

All the pistols you mentioned should be fine for your intended purpose. Go somewhere where you can try 'em all out and get what you like. Practice is key. I don't shoot every gun every month, but I try to put 100rds through a pistol and longarm each month. I may not be winning a competition with that amount of practice, but it keeps me sharp enough to handle business.

As far as calibur choice, I like the saying "a .22 in the pocket is better than a .45 in the drawer". But then again, isn't your pocket attached to your drawers?!

[Trabitha]

I've got the bodyguard but I went with the 5 shooter revolver. Guess it's the cowgirl in me. I like revolvers. I LOVE this gun and would recommend it to anyone. Anyone here who knows me, knows that when I like something I scream from the mountaintops about it. If I have the slightest problem I will be just as loud. DON'T EVER GET A TAURIS!

I LOVE the laser, but you must take some time in an indoor range to adjust it. Mine was way off when I got it. The small nose makes for a large kick...even for a .38. I've shot everything from a .357 and smaller and this .38 has quite a kick because of it's small size. Of course...anyone who shoots a small gun will expect that. It is accurate and makes a pretty good sized hole. I'm a very small person but it is quite easily concealed if I need it to be. It is a SOLID personal protection, small, conceal carry gun, and the price can't be beat IMO.

[Rick]

The KelTec PF9 is my everyday carry. As you said, it's light enough to drop in your pocket and forget about it. It doesn't imprint either so you're not letting everyone in on your secret. I don't have any problems with it and so far it's eaten everything I've run through it. You don't want to limp wrist it but otherwise it does a fine job. I think if I do my part the .9mm hollow points will do theirs.

[Woodmaster750]

I'll stick with my 357 saa. If I can't do it with six I'm out numbered anyhow.....

[SemperFi]

well Rick I am also looking at the KelTec PF9 , Ive pretty much narrowed it down to the KelTec and the Ruger LC9 , my main concern is the ammo , I dont really trust the .380 , I have a CZ-82 which shoots 9x18 (makarov) and I love this gun , but its a bit too heavy to be considered a pocket gun , therefore it has a home in the restroom (I wont be surprised they will)! I looked at the Kahr and the Sig models in 9mm , way too expensive and it seems the KelTec and Ruger outperformed them as well! I already own a Keltec in Sub 2000 .40sw and love it , never a problem , I have Ruger wheelguns , used the p95 as a duty carry and never liked it! I still like that Bodyguard just wish it came in a 9!

@trabitha , I looked at the 38 bodyguard at sports academy I was impressed with the light weight and how the metal and polymer mess , however light weight poses a problem and in revolver notorius for extra long trigger pulls a really big problem , with that said I dont care I RedHawk is like 9 pounds and my SD40 is damn near 9 pounds ,I like a long powerful trigger pull , I dont flinch , some might, I would like to run a few rounds through one , like I said dropping the weight of a revolver sounds interesting and if you can increase acurracy with the decreased weight the more the better, I really want an auto though , but intriguing me with the 38 bodyguard might get me of those too!

Price factors are what will get the job done , and reviews are good for the LC9 and the Keltec , Since the Keltec can be had for $230 http://www.slickguns.com/product/kel-tec-model-pf-9-9mm-7rds-polymer-frame-green-synthetic-grip-matte-blued-finish-23099 That might win out

There was a one day sale at Larrys pistol and pawn for $299 for LC9 but it has since disappeared! The Bodyguard is on sale at Sports academy for $349 , but losing the 9 for a 380 , the laser doesnt make up for the caliber !

[Trabitha]

Yep, it's a long pull, but personally I like that aspect of it. It makes for a safer carry IMO. I'm just drawn to revolvers. Not sure why. LOL! Not real partial to semi-autos so I deal with the extra weight. ;)

I hate to say this, Rick, but I really don't like KelTec at all. Call me picky...but I never felt safe relying on a gun that rattles when you shake it. Just cheaply made IMO. I may be wrong...but I did not feel safe with it in my hand.

[Rick]

I have the Sub2000 as well. Fun little gun and the fact that it folds is kinda nice for the pack or the truck. Makes a small footprint.

T - I don't see a whole lot of difference between some of KelTec's stuff and Ruger or Springfield. Yes, the tolerances are a bit closer but they are made with the same polymers. I've shot a lot through my PF9 and don't have any complaints. I could get a Taurus.......I know, bad joke.

SemperFi - Unless you just want an auto you might want to look at the Ruger LCR. You can get it in .357 or just .38 Special. My wife's carry is the LCR with Crimson Trace Lasergrips. Pretty lightweight but only 5 shot.

[hunter63]

The Ruger KLCR was and is my choice.......Coming up on CC Nov 1st....they still don't have a set of rules yet.

I am wheel gun guy my self...ya, old fashioned, as well, I guess.
At 17 oz and small, but capable of firing the .357 if you want to, that is my choice.

Wasn't in the list of choices to start with, so kinda just waited to see what y'all thought of the orginal selections....
If I were to pick an small auto loader it would be the Ruger LCP 9mm....I just like Rugers.

[SemperFi]

Well I plan on testing out all three today and I havent ruled out a snubbie , except I prefer carrying them on my ankle , I just want one of these pocket guns for the reason there called pocket guns? Its available without ever thinking about it , and in summer wearing an ankle holster isnt an option , as the weather changes its a better deal ,although you still lose a few extra seconds and in a situation those could be deadly , so sticking to these guns , although I like bodyguard , its gonna have to really impress me to change from a 380 to a 9 ! Granted theres some hot rounds out there but the availbility and and cost of 9 is way better and you cant compare the ballistics realistically!

So keeping it true to the pocket auto theme Keltec and Ruger , I plan on checking out the Kimber as well ,but really dont want to spend that much!

[kyratshooter]

The real question, that was never asked, is, are you really going to pocket carry?

So many times I hear "What is the best pocket pistol and what holster do I need to carry it and 4 extra mags?"

You will find that the P9 becomes a pocket burden and most people stash it in their waistband for this reason.

Snubies are not as small as one might think and are ideal for a woman's purse but a man will need some really baggy pants to properly conceal and carry even the 5 shot polymer revolvers. The only "pocket I have found that comfortably holds a snubbie is the back pocket with the pistol butt sticking just above the pocket opening. It is verry difficult to sit on and drive under thost conditions.

I have compact 9mm, I have both 5 and 6 shot snubbies, I have centerfire derringers, the pistol that goes out the door with me most is my PtA3 in .380. The others are special occasion pistols but the P3at has honest pocket wear from daily carry and it fits in the pocket along with my money clip, change and keys, which actually help conceal the pistol, instead of replacing them.

Another consideration is that when driving a pocket gun is totally unaccessable, as are many belt carry guns. My P3at goes in and out of the pocket at each entry or exit of the vehicle and is small enough to cover with my hand and make the transfer with no attention drawn to the action. My dashboard has a compartment that holds it securly with easy access.

The caliber might not be adequite for fighting a war, although many German officers would argue that point, but I have 7 shots instead of 5 and since I need concealability more than power, even though I have a CCW, I will take the trade and shoot until it is empty.

[Rick]

There's nothing in the rule book that says you can't carry a spare mag. My PF9 rides in my pocket without a holster and a spare mag is in my back pocket.

[kyratshooter]

There's nothing in the rule book that says you can't carry a spare mag. My PF9 rides in my pocket without a holster and a spare mag is in my back pocket.

To each his own. I see nothing really right or wrong with or without an extra mag. Whatever your pockets are big enough to do. I work and operate in an environment where dep concealment is necessary even though I have a CCW and most of the "extras" are not workable for me.

Along this line I have some of that "documentation" you love so well Rick. How many shots do you need? The NYPD and NY Times says 3.6.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/08/nyregion/08nypd.html?pagewanted=print

This is a new norm and up from the traditional 50 year old FBI stats of 2.7. This is the first good documented and well explained material I have found and even excludes the officer suecides and dog shootings from the totals, which should not count anyway. The old FBI material conted each discharge of the weapon as an officer involved shooting, including reported accidental discharges.

It is just for one city, but makes a good urban presentation. Rural areas might be different, though I think not so much so since all Wallmart/Costco/Walgreens parking lots are similar.

[Rick]

Keep the spares in your car. At least they will be close when you run past it. 3.6 sounds about right. I'm going to the range this afternoon and work on the .6 shot.

[Rick]

Thanks for that link. That's some fascinating information. The hit ratio didn't surprise me but the total numbers did. When you are trying to hit something at night, on the move, with adrenaline flowing it's no surprise to me that even professionals miss most of the time. Good link!!

[kyratshooter]

If 3.6 is the norm I am all set for two gunfights with my 7 round capacity. Well, 1.94 gunfights.

If I get into trouble, going to or from the car is where it will happen and I am pretty certain that no one is going to take a break and let me unlock the car and get to the extra mags.

Once the slide locks back you are dead anyway.

[Rick]

Just call Kings. Even the bad guys have to honor Kings.

[Batch]

If you pocket carry at all why would you put anything else in that pocket?

I carry a PF9 when I pocket carry. I much more frequently carry a full size gun.

Comparing law enforcement shots to a guys scenario who carries a pocket gun is kinda crazy. Most cops carry 4.5 to 5 inch sidearms. With a pocket gun you cut the barrel and sight radius in half almost. No way you out draw a guy with a good holster at 3:00 and a decent gun.

[Rick]

I'm not certain if your first sentence was to me or not. I only carry my weapon in that pocket. Nothing else. I don't need to dig through my change, car keys, receipt from gas and two washers that I found on the road to find my weapon in a hurry.

[crashdive123]

Anybody find a couple of washers? I think I lost em in the road.

[SemperFi]

well after shooting several yesterday Ive concluded the LC9 is a tad too big for pocket carry , it can be done just as the pf9 can but they are actually too big for pockets , the Kimber Solo and Kahr PM9 fit the bill just right , the kimber is a little too finicky about rounds it "likes" and at a considerably higher price ,I can buy two Rock Island 1911 Government models for the price of one solo! The Kahr on the other hand is excellent and even though its pricier than most it isnt too bad , I also looked at the SIG p290 I got one one finger around it (it is small) , too bad sig couldnt stick to the 1911 concept like the p238 (I would get that) , the Rohrback I didnt see but if small is what your looking for I hear its the same size as keltec p3at (in 9mm!!!) thats small ,the recoil has got to be enormous! I didnt shoot the DB9 I hear it shoots well but recoil is significant and it will bruise your hand , but I like the size of it ( about the same as the Kahr and it looks like a mini Glock), as far as .380 goes I didnt like lcp ,I did like the SW bodyguard ! They could have done better to drop the silly laser and $100 off the sticker price , fiddling with that laser in an instant gun fight will get you killed quick because it doesnt just turn on and its a bit further than your index finger is to hit the button , but ,it shoots well ,really long trigger pull (like the LC9 ) , you will think you already shot the bad guy by the time it actually fires!!

[Batch]

I'm not certain if your first sentence was to me or not. I only carry my weapon in that pocket. Nothing else. I don't need to dig through my change, car keys, receipt from gas and two washers that I found on the road to find my weapon in a hurry.

{quote]but the P3at has honest pocket wear from daily carry and it fits in the pocket along with my money clip, change and keys, which actually help conceal the pistol, instead of replacing them.
[/quote]

Nope, I was referring to that reply. Bearing in mind that I have no doubt KY has forgor more then I'll ever no about guns... I just didn't understand the comment.

[Rick]

Okay, I'll dig through his stuff then.

[kyratshooter]

Usually the P3at is in the right hand pocket with my money clip in front of it. That is usually all that is in that pocket and the money clip actually breaks any outline the small auto would make.

The P3 is still large enough to not get mixed up with the quarters so you don't need to spend a lot of time digging around looking for it.

In the winter It rides in my jacket pocket with a triangle of leather breaking it's outline. At that point it is the only thing in the pocket.

You guys carry any way you wish too, this is simply what works for me and might not be best for you.

As a civilian with a CCW, and not being large enough to hide a full sized pistol easily, I only carry a full sized gun when in the field, which is not as often as I would like. When in the field the CCW is irrelevant due to my residence being in KY. I can tow a 105 howitzer around behind me legally in this state.

Going in and out of the mall, out to eat or traveling, I am armed with the little mouse gun and very happy to have it. I went through a lot of pistols before I found the p3at and probably would have bought the minature Ruger if they had not waited so long to rip off the KelTec design.

[Rick]

If it works for you then it ... oh, you know.

By the way, if you're pulling a howitzer around those hills I'm betting you have some pretty decent calf muscles. Or cow muscles, whichever.

[Beans]

Usually the P3at is in the right hand pocket with my money clip in front of it. That is usually all that is in that pocket and the money clip actually breaks any outline the small auto would make
Going in and out of the mall, out to eat or traveling, I am armed with the little mouse gun and very happy to have it. I went through a lot of pistols before I found the p3at and probably would have bought the minature Ruger if they had not waited so long to rip off the KelTec design.

I started carrying a Kel tec 32 when they first came out and then went to the P3AT, when nothing bigger would do. I always consider these guns to be a "git me out of dodge" while I exited the area tool.

Realty hit me after I moved from the city into the rural area. A wild dog, German shepard looking and size dog, was trying to come through the property fence to engage in combat with either my dog or me. I wasn't sure which. I reached for my K3AT residing in my front pocket, one shot and the dog was gone. Shooting through a fence at night I missed.

Right then and there I decided that never again would I be armed with anything less then a Mid sized 9mm.

I had qualified with K3AT when I got my Nevada CCW permit. It had taken me about 300 rds and wearing a Golf glove on my right hand to be able to keep all 10 shots within the "X" ring of the B27 Silhouette target at 15 yards. I had been shooting about 400-500 rds a month and was rated an "A" shooter in IDPA. The small size of the K3AT, coupled with the small sights was hard for me to master.

MY EDC is now either a Glock 23 or a Kimber Tactical Pro II in 45 ACP.

A lot of people in this area are either open carrying or CC carrying. It is not unsual to see someone standing in line at the local Wal-mart, eating lunch at the Pizza hut, Olive garden or the local subway that is open carrying.

But everyone has to make their own choices of what they are comfortable carrying.

[hunter63]

If it works for you then it ... oh, you know.

By the way, if you're pulling a howitzer around those hills I'm betting you have some pretty decent calf muscles. Or cow muscles, whichever.

Everyone should own functioning artillery...of some sort.....

[Rick]

KY - I've always felt that the .380 was under powered but your reference to German officers is actually quite accurate. Both the .380 ACP, which I think is the same as the .9mm Kurz (9X17) and the .32 ACP (7.65) were pretty common calibers in the PPK during the war years. I think the CZ 38 was made under the Wehrmacht even though they were built in the Czech Republic and are the .380 ACP caliber. That says an awful lot to me and makes me think another look at both calibers might well be worth my while. Thanks for the reference. It actually gave me pause to reevaluate my thinking.

[kyratshooter]

One should also consider that the belly guns of the old west were double action revolvers in .32 and .38 S&W. We hear a lot about the SSA but there were almost as many colt and S&W pocket pistols in the hands of local law and in the hands of many of the shop keepers in the western towns soon after the Civil War. Those pistols were always there, in the vest pocket or coat pocket.

Those two rounds are almost identical in power to the .32 & .380 acp. Designed by Browning, a man of the western states.

Yes he did build the 1911, but in .38 origionally and in .45 at government insistance, but he also invented the .25 (I believe it was officially listed as the vest pocket pistol), .32 and .380 expressly for folks that needed a concealible gun. A concept that came alive even before the cowboys and their full sized belt guns disappeared. They needed close up self defense to protect the days recepits on the way to the bank, they were no longer fighting Indians on the plains.

Just like some folk argue that no one wants to stand and let them shoot at them with their 9mm, the same holds true for the .380. Only thing is that I will probably be much closer before I use the .380 than the 'cross the parking lot gunfights invisioned by most full sized pistol packers. I expect I will be backing up and trying to get more distance before I have to shoot anyone else. I do not intend to have to justify my actions due to lack of valid threat.

That's just me and my notions.

[Rick]

I've always practiced at about 10 feet for my CCW. If I'm across the parking lot I hope to have lots of cover and plenty of different ways to run. At that distance avoidance is the best defense.

[natertot]

I've always practiced at about 10 feet for my CCW. If I'm across the parking lot I hope to have lots of cover and plenty of different ways to run. At that distance avoidance is the best defense.

Very true Rick. Also, when you look at defensive related shootings, over 70 percent of them occur in 15 feet or less and over 90 percent are within 30 feet. At those ranges, a .22 would be of great value, although I would prefer a .32 or larger.

[Rick]

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