Anybody Watching "I, Caveman" Tomorrow?

[Sparky93]

Has everybody seen the comercials for the show "I, Caveman" on the Discovery channel? Looks kind of interesting, it's about a group of people trying to live like cavemen in the wilderness.

[LowKey]

Were we better off as cavemen? Morgan Spurlock ("Super Size Me") joins nine ordinary men and women in an attempt to survive in the wild using only stone-age technology. Cold, dehydration, and hunger threaten to derail the experiment from the start.
Just reading this synopsis, the premise is kinda bad.
No one just threw the cavemen into the wilderness with a few tools and said, "there you go. Survive." They evolved there. A steady chain of working knowledge and living a lifetime in their environment, with elders to teach them The Way.
Throwing a bunch of numpties into the woods to play caveman with no initial training adds up to about an hour of whining and chattering teeth in my book.
You can watch 2 episodes back to back at 8pm on 10/2
I'm sure there'll be a good football game on.

[Sparky93]

Just reading this synopsis, the premise is kinda bad.
No one just threw the cavemen into the wilderness with a few tools and said, "there you go. Survive." They evolved there. A steady chain of working knowledge and living a lifetime in their environment, with elders to teach them The Way.
Throwing a bunch of numpties into the woods to play caveman with no initial training adds up to about an hour of whining and chattering teeth in my book.
You can watch 2 episodes back to back at 8pm on 10/2
I'm sure there'll be a good football game on.

Ya, your propably right. I didn't know anything about it other than what I saw on the comercial. If the NASCAR race at dover is a night race I am probably going to watch it instead. But I'll probably watch it if nothing else is on.

[kyratshooter]

I have heard nothing about the show but can hypothicize the outcome.

The thing is that there are people that are propery trained and do this as their vocation in museum settings all over Europe.

[hunter63]

Might give it a go tomorrow.......
I learned about pyrite for starting fires, from reading Clan of The Cave Bear....a few years ago.
Was kinda hooky in a way as the lady that wrote it, Jean M. Auel kinda led you to believe that Ayla, the star, and her boyfriend invented just about everything you could think of in a couple of years.

[Sparky93]

I'm watchin the Purdue vs Notre Dame right now. Not goin very well though, we are losing 3 to 14. Tomorrow I'll be rooting for Smoke.

[crashdive123]

While it is true that they learned from their elders........their elders were only 22.:innocent:

[Blake Fister]

Looks like a cool show to watch though. I laughed when i seen a clip for it. The dude that from Super Size Me movie is in it/hosts it i think. heh

[Batch]

I tivoed it. It can not be much worse than any other reality show.

[rwc1969]

Billy Berger is in it. He has a primitive hunting type channel on YouTube and makes some real good/ fun vids. He posted that it was airing tonight. I will check it out if I'm not too busy writing code, back to school here.

[SARKY]

I'll check it out but don't hold any high hopes for it being realistic, especially taking novices out into the wild to do this.

[Sparky93]

Billy Berger is in it. He has a primitive hunting type channel on YouTube and makes some real good/ fun vids. He posted that it was airing tonight. I will check it out if I'm not too busy writing code, back to school here.
Where you goin to school at? I'll probably watch it and multi task writing my speech assignment at the same time, lol.

[Sparky93]

Well it wasn't as bad as I expected, the chick that wouldn't eat the fish or elk got on my nerves. And the women that wouldn't put her cold feet by the fire, WTF was up with that. I also wonder about if they actually killed an elk or that maybe the were in a game preserve or something, I just find it hard to believe a guy with little experience with an atl atl could take an elk with one.

[Winter]

I enjoyed it. There was some frustrating periods for me, but they were worse for the people on the show.

Only 2 quitters out of 10 was amazing really.

They got the elk, that's for sure. The dart was stuck in it's neck. Now maybe after they injured it some guy dropped it with a rifle, I don't know.

I'll watch it again.

[Rick]

"Okay, George. The elk's ankle is tied. It's not going anywhere. You just have to step up and sling that thing."
"I'm tryin'."
"Well, try harder. Okay? All right everyone, quiet on the set. Killing the Elk with an Atl. Take 72."





"Cut! Someone get a medic for the light guy. George can you tell the difference between an elk and Billy the light guy?"
"It slipped."

[BENESSE]

Someone get a medic for the light guy. George can you tell the difference between an elk and Billy the light guy?" "It slipped."

Many years ago, a guy was convicted for killing his MIL in the garage. Said he thought it was a racoon.
Anything is possible.

[letslearntogether47]

Honestly,I thought the woman that would not put her feet by the fire was going to be the first to quit.
But,she ended up contributing to the group more than some others did.
I thought the show not only touched on primative living but pointed out how different personalities can be a strength and a weakness to the group.
It would have been interesting to see the vegan starve and be forced to make a choice.Two choices...eat meat or leave.
This reminded me a bit of a show on PBS years back called(1900 house).The mother was a vegetarian and she pretty much starved.
I also thought it was kind of dumb to provide them with clothes but not food.Even a few rations of dried meat would have helped the group.
How many primative cultures had absolutely nothing on hand while following game?

[kyratshooter]

Well it wasn't as bad as I expected, the chick that wouldn't eat the fish or elk got on my nerves. And the women that wouldn't put her cold feet by the fire, WTF was up with that. I also wonder about if they actually killed an elk or that maybe the were in a game preserve or something, I just find it hard to believe a guy with little experience with an atl atl could take an elk with one.

First time for everything!

You are hungry. You have an atlatl and were able to hit the target with your practice throws. How much experience or encouragement do you need?

Is anyone taping this show? I do not have cable.

[natertot]

While it is true that they learned from their elders........their elders were only 22.:innocent:

Crash, I didn't think that you were aged to the point you could give us a first hand account of the caveman way of life!:wheelchair:

[natertot]

"Okay, George. The elk's ankle is tied. It's not going anywhere. You just have to step up and sling that thing."
"I'm tryin'."
"Well, try harder. Okay? All right everyone, quiet on the set. Killing the Elk with an Atl. Take 72."





"Cut! Someone get a medic for the light guy. George can you tell the difference between an elk and Billy the light guy?"
"It slipped."

:lol: That is too funny my friend!

[SemperFi]

I didnt see the show , however, being able to track elk and kill it on the first couple trys without ever trying before is a little unrealistic , I remember watching "les" on one of his outings and he was way up in canada , prime elk hunting territory , didnt see one , heard em, seen the tracks but didnt see one , he survived on pine needles until they came to get him ! Surviving off the land can be done if thrown to the wolves , but many tv shows dont tell you that they trained for weeks with local guides , learned what edible plants were available , while filming is going on there is a guide on set! It has to be interesting for the tv audience , Im sure if you and I were thrown into a lake and told "survive" we're filming from a distance! Youve been given no tools , you need to figure out that for yourselves , find food and water , set up a camp make fire , protect yourselves from the environment and the animals , the show would not be very interesting ,and it would be a whole lot of filming of nothing!

[crashdive123]

Crash, I didn't think that you were aged to the point you could give us a first hand account of the caveman way of life!:wheelchair:

It's written on the wall of my cave.

[SARKY]

The quitters should have had to hand over their furs to the tribe. After all, nothing is wasted. The little gal who quit seemed to have plenty of energy once she knew she had a hot bath, warm bed and the meal of her choice waiting for her. I'm really disgusted with the group in general. Besides , what moron eats mouse guts filled with mouse turds???

[hunter63]

All in all it was OK, I do think they could have had a more Gung ho group....but then again you might not be able to pick a group if TSHTF, just deal with what you have.

I womder how long the whole thing would last if played out for a longer period....and they didn't know the end date.

Beats watching sit-coms........

[Sparky93]

The quitters should have had to hand over their furs to the tribe. After all, nothing is wasted. The little gal who quit seemed to have plenty of energy once she knew she had a hot bath, warm bed and the meal of her choice waiting for her. I'm really disgusted with the group in general. Besides , what moron eats mouse guts filled with mouse turds???
I thought the same thing when I saw him eat those guts....

[twinomad]

Yup, I watched it last night and it was comical but in a sad way. Just a bad joke, the clothes were on backward, the fire making was laughable. The elk was even in the park of realistic. I'll never watch that show again

[twinomad]

Some of those wilderness shows have a little bit of sense, Most errors are done on purpose to entertain like, Man verses Wild or Dual but that Cavemen show was funny in a silly way, That is a don't waste your brain cells on that goop TV show.

[Winter]

I thought I liked it, guess I was wrong.

LOLZ

[steveGB]

I did watch it and was actually looking forward to it.
What a disappointment! Typical Hollywood garbage with obvious liberal overtones.
I'm sure that after not eating for 6 days the first thing that a human would do is cry and weep because he killed an Elk.
Even the pro bowhunter!! Common.
I'd be popping Elk eye balls into my mouth or gorging myself on fresh raw liver. Then the best part, back at camp some of the others were actually
repulsed by the sight of raw Elk meat.
Are you KIDDING???? After six days a piece of Elk would taste like the best meal you ever had in your life.

It was just staged BS. What a waste of my time.

[Winter]

If I was that hungry, they would be tears of joy.

[Rick]

Yeah, but what did you really think of it?

[Sparky93]

Ya the chick that can "survive" in that kind of situation, burning that amount of callories and eating only pine needles would have a rude awakening in a real survival situation.

[Sparky93]

You flint knapping guys can probably chime in on this, did the one guy actually make those point or did he bang on a rock for a little while and then the film crew handed him a pre-made one.

[hunter63]

This should be required watching/with quiz, for anyone that tells you they are gonna take their knife and the clothes on their back and 'Go live in the wilderness".
Won't do any good, but........

[natertot]

I think that the show is primarily entertainment with a little education. I give it a little education because they do talk a little about the way of life of the real cavemen. I believe that much of it is staged. The drama is a bit much. Planning on storing raw meat in a creek doesn't seem like to much of a good idea to me. I would have smoked/dried it. The one lady was an inventor as a profession and the only thing she did was maintain fire and put a roof on the second shelter. That is my intial thoughts. Would I watch it again? Sure. But I wouldn't go too far out of the way for it.

[Mischief]

Watching paint dry has more entertainment value then the Caveman show

[crashdive123]

You flint knapping guys can probably chime in on this, did the one guy actually make those point or did he bang on a rock for a little while and then the film crew handed him a pre-made one.

The atlatl darts were given to them already made. They did make their own cutting pieces - don't know about the spears they had, but the assumption is they made them.

[your_comforting_company]

I made a point to watch the show. I thoroughly enjoyed it and especially liked when the folks started to break down. Primitive life was much harder, but at the same time much more simple.
I wonder whose elk farm they were camping on?

[BENESSE]

I didn't watch it although I wouldn't mind catching it on a re-run.
Here's what I don't get with all these reality survival shows: people breaking down and crying. How stupid would you have to be, to not be aware of the cameras rolling and ultimately millions of people watching? If they're falling apart in front of the camera how would they act in a real adverse situation? At the very least, it's a good heads-up to employers, family and neighbors.

[letslearntogether47]

I think instead of voting to move,they should have just did what the alpha male said to do.
And if any of the other men had a problem,then let the smack down begin.That would have been much more realistic.

[SARKY]

Now that idea I like!

[natertot]

I wonder if the camera man took his lunch breaks in front of the group.

"I'm so hungry"
"We haven't ate in days"
"Is that a pizza delivery driver!"
Camera "Sorry guys, that's me"

[letslearntogether47]

The antropologist guy was kind of......well......weird.
I have noticed that it must be a job requirement for that title.

[hunter63]

I think instead of voting to move,they should have just did what the alpha male said to do.
And if any of the other men had a problem,then let the smack down begin.That would have been much more realistic.


I agree, Democracy was thought about till say 20000 years later?

And as far at the complainers.......hit the road, oh and leave the hides behind.....you have been banned!

[rwc1969]

I just finished watching it on YouTube. I think the guy who'd rather eat burgers wimped out pretty quick and was surprised the bounty hunter chick lasted after whining about cold feet. But, I liked the show. Those elk appeared tame as they all just stood and stared as darts flew at them. It was neat that they stuck it though and I think that was real, but I think they probably drugged the elk after that so they could finish it off, because, I've never seen a deer just lay there when it's stuck in the neck, I doubt that shot severed the spine,they usually will still flail around, regardless, that kill was pretty freakin greusome.

BTW, that liver and heart were huge, I like the fact that they left all that in and didn't edit it out. The black girl was lame. How can you go on a caveman show and not expect or want to eat red meat? She's all bummed out about the poor elk and she didn't even have to witness it's horrible and insulting death.

Is that it for the caveman show or what? It looked like it was over.

[Sparky93]

I think it was a special and not series, so I think we have seen the last of the cavemen.

[BENESSE]

It's just all make believe ridiculous.
I should know... I'm in the biz, and sometimes I hate what we do.

[your_comforting_company]

I think that the overlying point was "Could modern man go back to his roots to survive and rebuild?" Ultimately, for the majority, I think it is an impossibility. It was a good example of how pampered most folks are, and how unwilling they are to do anything for themselves. Half the group clearly had no intention of doing ANYTHING to benefit the group (egocentric) and were just dead weight.
Had I been on the show, I would have promised anyone who let the fire go out that we would eat them as soon as we get the fire going again. Strip down so we can use your hides and get out, or be eaten.

A functional group mentality would give each person a specific job, like firetending, hunting, or foraging, and each person would ultimately be responsible for that job. Half the group of 10 laid up under the shade all day and did NOTHING except wait for someone to return with what they needed and 100% expected them to just give it to them because the "deserve" it for laying in the shade all day. This speaks to me on the majority of todays population's sense of entitlement. 500 years ago, you pulled your weight within the group or you were banished to do the best you could for yourself. period.

Now, I'm a guy who fully believes in pulling his own weight, and I will do more than my fair share if it is necessary with no qualms, BUT if there are others within my group who choose to do nothing at all, the rest of us will not be hungry for much longer... Anyone for a long-pig samich?

I had more to say about it, but that's enough for now.

[Rick]

I believe YCC is correct. Believing that we could go back and exist as they did 10,000 years ago is a pipe dream. I think most of those who would say, "I can do it", can't. A few, very rare, individuals would have the knowledge and experience to do so. It's no more of a reality that expecting everyone to be able to perform open heart surgery. It takes a vast amount of knowledge and expertise. If you REALLY think you can do it then strip naked and hike into the middle of some largest forest land like Daniel Boone National and have a go. Aside from the indecent exposure arrest I'll bet you don't last long.

[letslearntogether47]

Can I at least have a coon skin cap,Rick?

[Rick]

I think you had better ask the coon instead of me. Do you want the mask too?

[your_comforting_company]

Cap and mask can be arranged.. ehem.

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