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wareagle69
09-29-2011, 09:14 PM
so i have found some new fun in the bush, since i am off the next few months rehabbing my arm and leg i am not venturing to far into the bush but also am not spending time finding fuel for a fire. I go out every night at dusk and just sit up against a tree and sit there for hours, watching and listening, amazing how the dark and quiet w/o the noise and light of a fire intensifies the sounds of nature, even a small animal sounds bigger, but i find i am intensly enjoying the dark, and have noticed that wildlide act more natural w/o the fire,it is quite addicting going fireless.
I admit that I get a little freaked out being in the woods without fire. It's all psychological but that's most of my problems anyway. Well, that and the witness protection program. I really like a fire at night especially if I'm alone out there. I get your point and I'm glad you enjoy it but I need the comfort of the light flickering.
Phaedrus
09-30-2011, 12:28 AM
A fire is my favorite part of being out overnight! But I'll have to try going fireless just to see how it goes.
DOGMAN
09-30-2011, 12:48 AM
I rarely build a fire while camping- even in the winter. I normally only build them for my clients, or to teach someone the bow drill or to use the ultra nice antler handled fire steel that Crashdive gave me...thanks Crash!
I do love a fire, but it does sort of take you away from the woods and turns your attention towards the flickering light....
wtrfwlr
09-30-2011, 01:02 AM
I know exactly what your talking about Wareagle, I have spent a lot of time in the woods with no fire and it is amazing how much more can be picked up by your senses when not distracted by a fire. Now don't get me wrong I love a good campfire big or small specially a big roaring fire when you've got friends joining you, there is nothing more enjoyable. But to be in the woods on a deer stand or in the swamp on a duck hunt a couple hours before light and to watch the sky begin to glow purple and listen to all the sounds made by the wildlife some going to bed, some just beginning to stir for the day is truly a blessing.
The same can be said for an afternoon hunt with the same dance being played in reverse. For this reason alone will have me sit on my stand from way before daylight until much later than shooting hours have passed a long time ago. I just seem to feel like for that little bit of time I may not be a participant but I have a front row seat! And yes you are right each and every footstep IS monster big!!!
rebel
09-30-2011, 08:51 AM
That reminded me of sitting in a fox hole on an overcast night. Straining to hear and see.
COWBOYSURVIVAL
09-30-2011, 01:20 PM
I can also relate, I like to walk out of the deer stand after dark with no flashlight. My eyes have had time to adjust to night vision and I can see amazingly well.
hunter63
09-30-2011, 01:38 PM
I have spent a lot of time in the predawn and after dark hunting as well as letting the fire burn down for sleeping....You are correct... a lot of stuff going on as the woods is going about it business.
I don't burn a fire all night whan camping.......
BENESSE
09-30-2011, 02:06 PM
I can relate. A fire is nice at dusk but at night I actually feel better and safer without it. I am more in touch with my surrounding, I see and hear better and all my senses are hyper alert but not alarmed. I feel more at one with nature and all the critters and because of that, less afraid.
finallyME
09-30-2011, 02:47 PM
A fire takes a lot of work. Sometimes, I don't want to do the work. I get to camp, throw up my hammock, and see you in the morning.
When I am with the scouts, I make them do everything. Well, I tell them if they want a fire, then they do all the work. If they don't want to do the work, then no fire.
Batch
10-01-2011, 01:42 PM
I believe in enjoying the time before sunrise and as the sunsets. I really like just sitting there and looking at the stars and listening to what is going on around us.
But, I like having a fire to gather around and recount the days adventures. I get that it is not needed, I live in S. Florida where it is 90 at night during archery season. But, it is tradition for us.
Now, if your alone and just sitting and listening awhile and then walking back out to go home. Making a fire doesn't really make any sense at all to me.
kyratshooter
10-01-2011, 02:32 PM
That reminded me of sitting in a fox hole on an overcast night. Straining to hear and see.
I often revel in the fact that I can build a fire and enjoy the flames and light dancing against the background. There was a time when my outtings did not allow light of any kind and after one has lain in the dark wondering if they would live to see another sunrise I do not feel having a fire detracts from my life experience.
Fire was the first "social networking technology" allowing old men and women to teach the legends and stories of the tribe, family groups to bond and humans to sleep on the ground rather then in nests in the trees.
You guys have never seen sexy until you have seen a well made woman in a long fringed buckskin dress walk past the fire. It will put a twinkle in even an old man's eye.
randyt
10-01-2011, 03:07 PM
a well made women in a long fringed buckskin dress can put a twinkle in a young mans eye too. LOL
hunter63
10-01-2011, 03:13 PM
I often revel in the fact that I can build a fire and enjoy the flames and light dancing against the background. There was a time when my outtings did not allow light of any kind and after one has lain in the dark wondering if they would live to see another sunrise I do not feel having a fire detracts from my life experience.
Fire was the first "social networking technology" allowing old men and women to teach the legends and stories of the tribe, family groups to bond and humans to sleep on the ground rather then in nests in the trees.
You guys have never seen sexy until you have seen a well made woman in a long fringed buckskin dress walk past the fire. It will put a twinkle in even an old man's eye.
Yeah...there is that....and as far as networks goes, I think congress should sit around a fire with some 'lubrication" and get down to business and solve all the problems...
Lot of the fires I attended, this actually has happened....or seemed so at the time.
Man, you guys are a tough bunch. Try doing it at night without hearing. When the light goes so goes your sight. So you wind up being blind and deaf in the woods. And while you're at it, drag some more fire wood over here. We're getting a bit low.
kyratshooter
10-02-2011, 04:42 PM
And the cricketts, always the cricketts, even in the snow! Zicadas 24/7!
1stimestar
10-02-2011, 05:07 PM
When I go camping, we have a fire. When I go backpacking, normally no fire as there aren't that many trees where I normally go. But I often just go out into my woods where I live and sit and commune with nature, no fire.
kameleon
10-02-2011, 07:32 PM
Camping without a fire? I never thought of that.
I love the feel of a fire and start one first thing in the morning to take the chill off and wake up.
Then the fire gets put out for the rest of the day, and a new one started mid to late afternoon for dinner.
Then after dinner sitting around watching the fire is the greatest thing in the world for me.
When I'm back in civilization and smell wood smoke, I'm transported!
That said, I might try going fireless just once to make sure I'm not missing anything.
Besides the campfire keeps the boogey man away!
edr730
10-03-2011, 07:04 AM
I enjoy a fire. Sometimes I think it is instinctive to stare into a fire like we stare into a television. Our eyes are attracted to movement. There are practical reasons for fire, like warming up, drying off or cooking. But, a fire takes time and sometimes those things aren't necessary and it's just easier or wiser to eat something from your pack and go to sleep because you have things to do in the morning. But, you aren't always left with just the darkness and the small noises. If it's clear, you can lay on your back and watch the meteorites, the constellations or the northern lights. If the night looks like you may need cover, you can quickly throw a tarp over you with some bushes along your side to peak the tarp and keep off the condensation. There were many times that my biggest concern was people not animals. It's a great sense of security to be comfortable and well hidden.
letslearntogether47
10-03-2011, 07:51 AM
Unfortunately ,camping in this area, without a fire at this time of the year would be quite dangerous without mosquito netting.
And even with a fire in some places.
EEE and West Nile virus have been found in the area and the mosquitoes numbers have exploded from standing water.
Both the tropical storm and the very wet Aug/Sept has contributed to this.I'm hoping for a couple of frost to clear them out so we can
do a little camping.As it stands now,even working outside requires a generous coating of deet on all exposed skin.
wareagle69
10-06-2011, 08:08 AM
as i was sitting out last night i was reminded of how i came into this-
many moons ago back in 93 when i was in college in nelsonville ohio, small school set in the bush, well my car broke down and i had to walk the few miles to school, down the rr tracks across the tressle that crossed the river thru the bush. well all i remember from it was how peacefull it was, no distractions of even the car radio, it struck me then and even more now with all the gadgets we have that we are never alone with our own thoughts, some folks i have learned are not able to do this, or should say unwilling to do this.
i have found that even a fire can be a disttraction, looking at the dancing flames hearing the crackle and smell of fire, which is why i enjoy going fireless
mpatton
10-11-2011, 05:26 PM
This has me wondering... What would I do with all the hours I usually would spend staring at a fire. Fire is like TV but for the woods.
crashdive123
10-11-2011, 06:32 PM
Listen to the sounds of nature which is like your stereo for the woods.
Oh how I yearn for the days of mono. This new stereo thingie is just a passing fad.
Beans
10-11-2011, 09:33 PM
You guys have never seen sexy until you have seen a well made woman in a long fringed buckskin dress walk past the fire. It will put a twinkle in even an old man's eye.
Along with a twinkle it would also maybe cure a man of Alzheimer's, His first reaction would be "Ah Yes I do remember.
TheWaywardOne
10-11-2011, 10:51 PM
It's hard to beat a good fire on a cold night, or the satisfaction felt of creating one without modern means (hand drill, for example). Even on a warm summer night fire can add a sense of security, fend off mosquitoes, dry you out, and heating up a drink or food can really boost camp moral, especially after a fruitless day of hunting. Fires are work, though. Gathering an ample supply of wood, cutting it if needed, ect. That being said, I love having a small fire in my camp, but there have been just as many times I've camped without one as with. Even in cold weather during hunting season or running a trapline I've elected to not use one due to time and energy (with a good bedroll I stay warm). In the summer I spend huge amounts of time camping on the river banks and sandbars fishing for flathead catfish. Rarely do I build a fire in those instances, as flatheads are pretty light sensitive. The crackle and glow can be comforting, but as others have said, it's a whole different world without it. You hear things you might not hear otherwise, whether or not you can see what is making the noise. I like a fire, but also like the contrast of not having one. Each has it's place.
wareagle69
10-16-2011, 08:52 AM
so i was sitting out back last night, wind blowing everything all around, tv said weather warning for wind, and the rain was driving hard, i was sitting out by the creek that the beavers have been working on for a couple of years now, getiing deep and wide. for the past few nights i have been hearing the bever but haven't seen him, now apparently he was already on land when i chose my spot to sit, just off of his slide, he slips by me in the dark, launches into the water and large splash right behind me, it was so windy i did not hear him coming till the little rascal splapped his tail in front of me, caught me off guard. but brought a smile to my face
erunkiswldrnssurvival
10-16-2011, 08:05 PM
there are some instances that i may want a fire, but i normally burn my oil lamps. no wood to gather or cut there. and animal fat is easy to get if you hunt the right animals, like ducks,pigs, some species of fish, ect. wood fires are chokey with the smoke and consume a lot of poundage in fuel, where the oil is compact and a small amount goes a long way.
wetzel
10-26-2011, 10:09 AM
I do both, but must admit there is something very therapeutic about a fire. After a long cold day of hiking, hunting or whatever, the fire can really revive ones spirits.
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