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Survival123
09-29-2011, 08:29 AM
I use UCO Stormproof matches or the Light My Fire army swedish firesteel to light my wetfire or natural tinders the once thats all burning I throw in a Zippo Camp fire starting puck.
hunter63
09-29-2011, 02:52 PM
I use UCO Stormproof matches or the Light My Fire army swedish firesteel to light my wetfire or natural tinders the once thats all burning I throw in a Zippo Camp fire starting puck.
Redundancy is good, are those the only fire starting tools carried? or just the most used.
Phaedrus
09-30-2011, 12:41 AM
I've never been a match guy but I recently picked up some of those UCO matches during a stop at a Gander Mountain store- they're amazing! You can dunk the lit match in water and it will re-ignite when you pull it out. They're almost impossible to keep extinguised, if there's still chemical left on the head they'll burn. My main firestarter is a Firesteel.com steel augmented with some treated cottonballs. I've been using them with either petroleum jelly or wax on them up til now but I recently bought some Gelwax that I've been meaning to try.
Agreed, redundancy is key! When out in the bush I'll always have the steel, some tinder (cotton and/or Weber firecubes, sometimes Tinder-Kwik) and generally a Mini Bic. If I'm planning to be out overnight I'll often add a bit of fatwood and the UCO matches. From time to time I might also have some form of Hexamine tabs on me.
hunter63
09-30-2011, 11:05 AM
My ultimate goal would be to be able to start a fire with only found materials, so thats kinda of something I work at.
That being said, when out and about, hunting, fishing, hiking, camping, canoeing or just a drive...My firestarting gear is many and varied....whith no particular favorite.
I try not to get hung up on fire starting, it's a tool,.... the more tools in the box the better.
finallyME
09-30-2011, 02:50 PM
I carry a few wetfires, but try and never use them. It is like burning money. I try and be as cheap as possible.
crashdive123
09-30-2011, 03:13 PM
Wait. What about your vow of poverty?
The only problem I have with matches is you'll only start as many fires as you have matches. A firesteel and/or magnesium fire starter will start thousands of fires for you. And rather the spend the extra money on the UCO matches why not just buy some strike anywhere matches and coat the whole match with paraffin or wax?
Any firestarter you carry and are comfortable with is a good thing. I'm just suggesting that there might be some better or cheaper options available.
gordy
10-03-2011, 07:08 AM
Any firestarter you carry and are comfortable with is a good thing. I'm just suggesting that there might be some better or cheaper options available.
People use different things.
One fire starter I heard of was poly styrene mixed with petrol and naphthalene mixed with it. It burns great, but the smell isn't very nice, and it's sticky as $hit. Plus they reckon naphthalene causes cancer.
I prefer the vegetable oil, it burns evenly and will light a fire even with wet materials. It's non toxic and a food item with massive calories. Olive oil or lard works great, but olive oil is in a convenient bottle to carry.
DOGMAN
10-03-2011, 02:02 PM
I just look for lightning- then follow the smoke. I make a torch out of an stick and an old sock and then just do my best to keep it lit. In times with good weather i often go without a fire.
I need to try some of the new fangled (bow-drill, etc..) techniques to get more consistent results
Phaedrus
10-04-2011, 12:10 AM
And rather the spend the extra money on the UCO matches why not just buy some strike anywhere matches and coat the whole match with paraffin or wax?
Any firestarter you carry and are comfortable with is a good thing. I'm just suggesting that there might be some better or cheaper options available.
I do have quite a few boxes of the less expensive waterproof matches, and while I do use them they're not remotely as good as the UCO. Under favorable conditions in nice weather, when my hands are warm, there's little wind and I have plenty of time- well, in those cases I use the cheap matches or a firesteel with natural tinder. I carry the UCO matches, potassium permanganate with glycerine, Weber cubes, pj cotton balls, hexamine, etc for the times I need to get a fire going when the chips are down. They're insurance policies that increase my odds of getting a fire started when the deck is stacked against me.
Hey Dogman! Two words. Nylon Socks. Yea, they make a great torch. The cool thing about them is they drip and leave a trail of burning nylon that lights up the path so if you have to go back the way you came it's already lit up!
DOGMAN
10-04-2011, 12:26 PM
Rick, thanks for the tip. I have found that cotton socks, although provide great flames- don't burn nearly long enough. i wonder how well a satin thong burns? Maybe you could do a field test and let us know!
rwc1969
10-04-2011, 09:24 PM
I used the Sparkie Rick sent me from the BIF thang with some birch bark today and it worked good, but the wood is all damp here and very hard to get going. My second fire I ran out of tinder and ended up having to scout around for some cedar bark which was dry as a bone. I took that and made a nest along with a piece of charcloth and finally got the wood dry enough to stay lit. I was pulling dead branches out of trees and they were damp.
Before I left out this morning I considered taking some of the Wetfires, but left them behind instead, woulda been nice to have.
gordy
10-05-2011, 06:53 AM
Rick, thanks for the tip. I have found that cotton socks, although provide great flames- don't burn nearly long enough. i wonder how well a satin thong burns? Maybe you could do a field test and let us know!
Any fabric soaked in olive oil can work along time as a torch. I reckon you soak your cotton socks in olive oil and you will get quite a long lasting torch.
I carry a lot of olive oil for high energy food, for lighting, cooking, fire starting and medicine.
6989
I also make olive oil lamps out of aluminum foil, cotton string and of cause olive oil.
Make a wick out of cotton string by cutting string into 5 5 inch lengths, and then holding them together with metal paper staples.
Make a well and the throat of the lamp out of foil, put the wick in then pore in olive oil to soak it.
A 5 inch wick should last the night. As oil runs low just top up the lamp well with more oil.
You can also make wire cradles to hold your foil lamps, so you can hang them around the camp.
Beans
10-05-2011, 09:58 AM
Any fabric soaked in olive oil can work along time as a torch. I reckon you soak your cotton socks in olive oil and you will get quite a long lasting torch.
I carry a lot of olive oil for high energy food, for lighting, cooking, fire starting and medicine.
6989
Remember to remove your sock before lighting or it will give the phrase "hot foot" a personal meaning
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