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Phaedrus

09-27-2011, 01:37 AM

Last weekend I was camping in a state park. I had a nice fire going and was sitting next to in my folding chair when a racoon ambled out of the woods and nearly into my leg! It was a young coon and not very big; I'm not sure it could see me once I had my Streamlight headlamp shining in it's eyes. It was a bit comical- I'd toss a chunk of wood at it and it would scramble away but come right back. Since coons can carry rabies I didn't want to let the little guy hang around, and of course they're hazardous to pets in the park. As it scrambled up the side of a tree, I donned my leather gloves and grabbed my Estewing axe. Standing about 3 feet away from it with the little guy at waist level I contemplated making two pieces out of him but ultimately opted not to.

So my thinking is that I'd like to get a decent air gun for camping. I have a CCW but 9mm or .45 ACP isn't going to be a very good choice for use in places there are other people. But an air gun is (relatively) quiet and some are quite powerful.

Here's what I want. I think I want to stick with a .22 cal to use a big bigger pellet. At this point I could see getting a pistol or a rifle. The Browning 800 Magnum in .22 might fill the bill but it seems it might be discontinued. And it's almost as heavy as a rifle. Not being really expert I am thinking of a spring piston gun. Not only do I want to avoid needed CO2 carts, but I know CO2 guns really lose velocity when it's cold.

Can anyone recommend an airgun that they've used for the purpose? I'd like to have at least 600 fps with an 18 gr pellet but that's not written in stone.

Rick

09-27-2011, 08:11 AM

I'd venture that air gun is going to be a lot louder than a .22 subsonic. Either way, the federalis are probably going to frown on you killing animals in their park. Even if it's not illegal in your state I'll bet they make your life uncomfortable if you get caught. Racoons and parks just go together. They've learned they can steal a good meal at night so they come knocking for handouts and opportunities.

I once had a raccoon skinny under a screen tent in the next camping space overnight. The folks had left all their food out inside the screened in tent. The next morning food was everywhere. I mean literally everywhere. Bread slices, doughnuts, butter, you name it and it was scattered all over the campground. Inside that screened tent looked like the heavyweight tag team champion bout had taken place. No one heard a thing either. Pretty funny from where I sat but they were not amused.

Phaedrus

09-27-2011, 08:53 AM

No no no- mine is a Magic Park where I can do whatever I want.:flowers: Really, trust me! Okay, at least concede it's my problem. In the dark of night even a low volume gunshot probably won't wake anyone already sound asleep. And of course, by copiously defined legislation an air gun cannot be legally defined as a firearm, making the possession of such much easier to deal with legally.

To me a .22 BB is out of question as it's still being fired from a firearm- probably a no-no in a camp ground. Even louder airguns have a different signature and are quieter than conventional guns.

BTW, yeah- I do have an SPL meter and I know how to use it.

Phaedrus

09-27-2011, 08:55 AM

Let me also state I'm not even necessarily talking about killing the beastie. A good sting might drive it away.

hunter63

09-27-2011, 01:19 PM

I'll bet a taser would work.....Just saying....
Our parks do not allow firearms in them unless it is a special hunting season.

I do have to say that in some parks where fishing in the river back waters, that do contain water snakes, I do carry my tackle box gun....But at this point and am under attack by a aggressive water snake trying to get in the boat or canoe, (This has happened )I would use it and beg forgiveness later.
Canoe paddle worked in a couple of situations.

I did watch as a family left their breakfast foods on a table inside a screen house....set up on a gopher village...They left for the pool, gophers completely destroyed the remaining food.......When they got back they started to discipline the kids for making a mess....I had to go tell them what happened.

rebel

09-27-2011, 03:10 PM

Let me also state I'm not even necessarily talking about killing the beastie. A good sting might drive it away.

...a misplaced shot and you could blind the poor creature.

natertot

09-27-2011, 05:32 PM

If you just want to sting the creature, why not go with a run of the mill air rifle. $40-$60 bucks at any place that they are sold and .117 cal pellets are dirt cheap. Last time I bought some, I paid $5.99+Tax per thousand. Just sayin a high cal, high power airgun isn't required to p!55 off a coon. :6:

Phaedrus

09-27-2011, 06:14 PM

I bet one of those low powered full auto bb guns would send the critter packing!

SARKY

09-27-2011, 10:11 PM

What about just using a slingshot or wrist rocket?

Phaedrus

09-27-2011, 11:11 PM

Are they hard to learn? I've never used a slingshot of any kind that I can recall.

Rick

09-27-2011, 11:31 PM

A really strong "Shoo! Get outta here," would probably work, too.

Phaedrus

09-28-2011, 12:33 AM

A really strong "Shoo! Get outta here," would probably work, too.

No joy there! I tried yelling, even threw chunks of firewood at 'im. My guess is that he was just very used to people. But probably not used to getting shot at! Maybe I need some pepper spray?:devil:

canid

09-28-2011, 01:50 AM

a slingshot with a low mass shot (e.g. no big heavy steel shot, which could kill the animal if hit in the head.) is actually a very good option. it is very unlikely to cause the animal serious injury, and will leave it no mistake that it is being attacked.

not only are they easy to learn, but fun as heck to play with.

Phaedrus

09-28-2011, 01:56 AM

I suppose there's the added benefit that if one is found with a slingshot on their possession it's probably not going to cause a ruckus.

finallyME

09-28-2011, 03:08 PM

If you haven't played with a sling shot, you need to RUN over to the store and buy one. A pile of small rocks, a bunch of empty soda bottles/cans, and a few hours will prove very entertaining.

By the way, a red rider bb gun will piss it off enough that it hopefully will associate people with getting shot.

oldtrap59

09-28-2011, 08:16 PM

I you want to pull a trigger I'd go with bb gun and not the pellet rifle for running wildlife off without major damage. I own a Ruger pellet rifle (nothing fancy. around $100 at Walmart) which works real well on small game.(by that I mean it kills small game) Not something you would use to chase off the stray coon or such like.

Oldtrap

Rick

09-28-2011, 09:48 PM

No joy there! I tried yelling, even threw chunks of firewood at 'im. My guess is that he was just very used to people.

Or rabid. Just sayin'.

http://www.thebuzzmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/rabid_raccoon.jpg

rebel

09-28-2011, 10:27 PM

What about a blow gun? http://www.magnumboot.com/bl40caglinda.html
http://www.magnumboot.com/blpa100pa.html
http://www.magnumboot.com/malobl36wa.html

Phaedrus

09-29-2011, 01:22 AM

What about a blow gun? http://www.magnumboot.com/bl40caglinda.html
http://www.magnumboot.com/blpa100pa.html

Actually I have been thinking on and off about the blowgun. Didn't occur to me to use one in this application but it would probably work well. I know they're extremely quiet and some will shoot thru 1/2" plywood. An excellent notion.

Or rabid. Just sayin'.

http://www.thebuzzmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/rabid_raccoon.jpg

Hmmm...he did look a little bit like that!:blink: Hahaha! Just kidding!:banana:

shiftyer1

09-29-2011, 09:43 PM

I use a .177 pellet rifle made by Gamo? for rabbits up to coons. It's going to do more than sting him! Mine is spring driven and is actually pretty powerful.

Phaedrus

09-30-2011, 12:30 AM

That Gamo with the integral suppressor looks pretty sweet. They make it in .177 and .22, too.

Batch

10-03-2011, 09:42 PM

We warn racoons with soft air and pellet guns. We re-iterate with .22 shorts. You get everything we got with the low power. But, if you can't learn the .22 shorts come out. They learn once and for all from them.

sh4d0wm4573ri7

10-04-2011, 09:57 AM

I like to carry a pellet gun when camping I own an RWS model 48 177 caliber and a Ruger Mark 1 pellet pistol also 177 caliber while a 22 caliber I am sure would be better the 177 is faster and has served me well for adding little meat to the pot. The rifle shoots at 1000fps the pistol at 600 fps as long as I am careful with my shots I have had no trouble with rabbits, squirrels, grouse etc.

nilespathfinder

10-04-2011, 10:28 PM

6988this is the air gun i have and use, i love this rifle, all small game is toast.

Phaedrus

10-05-2011, 12:52 AM

6988this is the air gun i have and use, i love this rifle, all small game is toast.

What is that one, nilespathfinder?

your_comforting_company

10-05-2011, 06:03 AM

My pellet gun is for hunting small game too, but in my state hunting of ANY KIND is forbidden in the state parks. I would strongly suggest you check the hunting laws before taking a game animal in a park and out of season. That would technically be poaching in my state.
.177 and 1250 fps takes all the squirrels I care to eat.

sh4d0wm4573ri7

10-06-2011, 02:54 AM

Also quite illegal here but its cool law is law and I follow all game laws. I am a sportsman judged not buy who is watching but by an inner voice and the lord above .

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