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shiftyer1

09-25-2011, 02:22 AM

I bought a model 94 winchester for a truck gun a couple years ago, it's a 1964 model and in really good condition so I didn't want to beat it up because it's made it 50 years and kept good condition. Sooo I bought a marlin 1895c in .357 for this task, Buuut it's in good condition and I can't bring myself to abuse it. My definition of a truck gun is in a rack behind the seat banging around. So I have been searching for a 30-30 lever or a .357, .44mag carbine that has seen the elephant and limped back to tell the tale. Something thats been drug up this hill and down that one, ain't pretty no more maybe a few rust pits, but funtions and shoots decent. It wasn't long ago they were affordable and everywhere, what happened? I know alot of people enjoy them but I can't see folks runnin to fetch all the lever guns because they are coming to take them. What happened to them?????

natertot

09-25-2011, 08:22 AM

IDK, Have you checked the gun shows? I see levers in the $150 arena that would serve your purpose on a regular basis at gun shows.

Rick

09-25-2011, 09:09 AM

Why does it have to be in a rack behind the seat banging around? They make all sorts of gun carriers today. Some fit on the ceiling of the truck, some fit under the rear seat, some even fit in the sidewall of the cargo area. Even a good quality hard walled case will protect it.

http://www.gunaccessories.com/BigSkyRacks/sbr2G.jpg

http://www.gunaccessories.com/BigSkyRacks/bsr2small.jpg

http://www.outofsightgunracks.com/images/seatmount.jpg

http://cdn.content.compendiumblog.com/uploads/user/34d0a968-b26f-4fe6-bc3d-706c9d1ac7cd/0e56e9b6-0fb9-46f6-b3df-f8ff0a8b9fd5/Image/fc8495cbd1e12d7876f141b3b27974a9.jpg

http://www.rampconnection.com/images/products/seat-back-gun-rack-5.jpg

If you can dream someone probably builds it.

Batch

09-25-2011, 09:48 AM

I have the under the seat storage under my seat. It has the option of being lockable and even with two guns in it there is more room for storage.

Down side is my back seat in my f150 is split so I have to go to the passenger side to draw the weapon.

crashdive123

09-25-2011, 10:51 AM

You could always send me a couple of your nice rifles. I'll send them back to you when they are good and worn so that you won't feel bad about tossing them in the truck.

Rick

09-25-2011, 11:46 AM

See? That right there shows you how old I'm getting. I should have picked up on that in a nano..................zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

hunter63

09-25-2011, 12:23 PM

Latest gun show did have some kinda used hard, lever .30-.30's, but were more expensive then the .35 Rem and Win .32 Specials?
Price was still in the $250 range, kinda high, as were most prices in general.
I don't think you are gonna fine a lever gun in .357, .44 mag or the sort as they really haven't been around long enough to be "used" that much, and seem to be extremely popular lately.

Best maybe deal was on a Ruger 10/22 for $60 bucks, but really looked rough, with rust and pitting....rust on the outside= rust on the inside, too many moving parts on an auto loader for me to consider messing with it....Now if it was for free, maybe.

The other possibility I passed up was a Nagant that had already been Bubba-ized, cut down stock and barrel....but already had a bent bolt, and drilled for a scope, for $90 bucks....a bent/cut/welded bolt is gonna be $40 bucks+receiver drilling and tapping, and I wouldn't have to worry about screwing up anything that was historically intact.

I also think that there is a raised awareness of our country's direction that is effecting pricing as some normally not a concern/anti-gun people are re-considering their position, thus more firearms sold at higher prices....... But that is political......

shiftyer1

09-26-2011, 01:26 AM

Well in my case the roof mount is out as I drive into Austin Tx every day for work and thats to visible, i'd have to replace a window and the gun. I would love under the seat but the seat frame doesn't allow for it. I drive a single cab 97 chevy and i'm 6' 1" so i need the seat all the way back to drive so a box contraption may not fit.

Does anyone use the one pictured above that hangs from the seat? Does it bang against the back of the cab? That may be a better option than what I use now, I found an old single rack for a datsun p/u and assembled it in a way to suit me the best I could.

Thanks for the offer crash.....but....i guess it's kinda like a new car....first scratch is heatbreaking......door ding SUX.....shopping cart crash is sad.....scratches from tree limbs and brush make a memory so it's ok....ding in the bumper makes ya grin a little....big dent in the front quarter panel is a conversation starter with a hell of a story.....I guess I just need to get past the first scratches and door dings:)

shiftyer1

09-26-2011, 01:30 AM

A hard panel case would be an option but I prefer a grab and go type of setup, most of my shots are pretty stop, grab, and shoot affairs. Coyotes as I come down the driveway and things like that.

Batch

09-26-2011, 08:41 PM

The hanging option is tied down so it doesn't swing.

2dumb2kwit

09-30-2011, 08:12 PM

I haven't been to a gun show in a few months, but the last I looked, leverguns started at $250+ for rough ones, and quickly jumped to $300-$400 for nice ones.

Don't get mad, but I stumbled unto exactly what you are talking about, about a year or so back. A beat-up, scratched, and slightly rusted Marlin levergun....in .44 Mag. It must have been somebodies "toolbox" gun. LOL The cool thing is, that the bore looked perfect, and the thing shoots great. It is now one of my favorites! LOL

bobzilla

09-30-2011, 09:06 PM

Who makes the bottom one?Be great for the Bronco!

Also if you are in the area,come to our festival

http://www.coveredbridges.com/index.php/covered_bridge_festival

Thanks,Bob

kyratshooter

10-01-2011, 12:25 PM

I thought everyone knew the cheap 30-30 leverguns were gone, have been since the early '90s. It is a once a month thread here.

Their new found expense has removed them from the normal "truck gun" catagory, unless you are driving a newer model truck at +-$30k, which makes a $500 rifle an insignificant expense.

Come to think of it, I did see a guy at the range the other day shooting a rifle worth more than his truck!

hunter63

10-01-2011, 01:59 PM

I did find it odd that lever guns that were NOT 30-30's were about $50 to 100 bucks lower,,,,still in the $250 range.
I'm talking .35 Rem and .32Win special....not the pistol calibers....and these seemed to have scopes or at least mounts, sling swivers etc?????
I guess these aren't real popular calibers any more....?

SARKY

10-01-2011, 10:28 PM

My question is Where did all the surplus 7.62x25 ammo go?

Highhawk1948

10-02-2011, 08:31 AM

I don't see why a "truck gun" has to be beat up. Get a good gun you like and just wipe it down and clean it every so often. Then it will be your truck gun. Been carrying a Marlin 1984 .22 Magnum for years. Its is worn some but clean and shoots good! Just ask the Coyotes. Guns, like a good knife, need to be used.

As long as the moon will rise, as long as the grass shall grow. Yeah right!

kyratshooter

10-02-2011, 09:08 AM

There are truck guns, and there are truck guns.

Just like the term "deer rifle" or "black rifle" conjures many mental images. The term 'truck gun" allows any caliber, any guage, any action, any condition and either long gun or pistol. It just boils down to what you are going to have in the truck 24/7.

As for me, even in my rural setting, vehicles get broken into on occasion. I am not going to keep my best gear in the Jeep. Espically since I do not take the gun in and out of the truck for every trip I make into the house and I often forget to take it in at night altogether.

If someone steals something from me it is going to be the MN91/30 and not one of the more valuable trinkets. In fact, the 91/30 makes a dandy truck gun. Accurate, rugged to indestructability, it also allows one to carry it empty and load with a stripper clip for immidiate fast shots and still be legal in the vehicle in most states.

The fact that it is longer than some vehicles are wide is an inconvinience one must work around. Probably why they invented flipdown back seats!

hunter63

10-02-2011, 12:33 PM

Nagant M38 works well, little shorter than the 91/30, as is the M44,.... still prefer a 12 ga...$100 buck Mossberg, but hey, dance with who ya brung.

natertot

10-02-2011, 02:54 PM

Mosin or 12ga, either a fine choice. I prefer a 12 ga as well. I keep some 00Buck rounds with it. I know I can drop any threat or finish off any animal where I live with it. I have a trashy 870 myself. It looks like crap, but no rust and functions like a charm.

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