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hunter63
09-24-2011, 05:41 PM
Looking at different categories...From general homesteading to SHTF.......Feel free to add to the list or redo the order.
No need to fill in blanks,unless you want to.....(turns into the "best" etc)...... just trying to get a feel of what everyone thinks their needs are.
Obviously many particular firearms will fit into different categories, and priories will be different.
These are my list.
1.---Homestead: (X2 if more than one location)
Shotgun
Rifle
Foraging/varmint
Nite stand.
2.---Hunting:
Rifle
Rifle Varmint
Shotgun
Handgun
3.----Vehicle Carry (X #of vechials)
Shot
rifle
hand gun
4.---Personal carry:
Hand gun
5.---MBR (main Battle rifle) Mil type, high cap magazines
Tact Shotgun... Extended mag, short barrel
Long range rifle
Hand gun High cap auto loader
6.----Primitive firearms.
percussion rifle
percussion shotgun
percussion pistol
Flintlock rifle
7.----Primitive weapons:
Bow
Cross bow
Object; When DW says, "how many do you need".........Looks like we did our homework.
BENESSE
09-24-2011, 06:02 PM
Now admit it Hunter, has your uncle Sam put you to it?
hunter63
09-24-2011, 06:06 PM
LOL, Not yet......But you never know......At least now we have a legal new category..CC starting in November.
BENESSE
09-24-2011, 06:35 PM
I'll bet some of the F.A.R.T.s are gonna say how that information went down with the boat, when you know, all was lost.
Such a sad, sad story. Brings tears to my eyes every time I think about it.
hunter63
09-24-2011, 07:02 PM
That's why this is a "what if" hypothetically stated, knowing how many canoe and boat accidents that happen.
Hmmm maybe a floating firearm...Naw...
SARKY
09-24-2011, 09:08 PM
1.---Homestead: (X2 if more than one location)
Shotgun Mossberg 500
Rifle Ruger M-77 MKII 6.5 Grendel
Foraging/varmint Ruger 10-22 or 10-22Mag
Nite stand. Para Ord P-12
2.---Hunting:
Rifle AR-15 w/ 6.5 Grendel barrel
Rifle Varmint AR-15 w/5.56 barrel
Shotgun Mossy 12Ga O/U
Handgun Taurus Ti Tracker .41 Mag
3.----Vehicle Carry (X #of vechials)
Shot Mossy 500
rifle Marlin lever gun .41 Mag
hand gun Taurus Titanium Tracker .41Mag
4.---Personal carry:
Hand gun Para Ord P-12
5.---MBR (main Battle rifle) Mil type, high cap magazines HK-91
Tact Shotgun... Extended mag, short barrel Mossy 500
Long range rifle TCR w/.308 barrel
Hand gun High cap auto loader pair of beretta 92s
6.----Primitive firearms.
percussion rifle TC White Mountain Hunter
percussion shotgun Beretta Model 1000 O/U 12 ga
percussion pistol Ruger old Army
Flintlock rifle N/A
7.----Primitive weapons:
Bow Compound, Mathews Z7
Cross bow
Well there it is, I could have slid in one of my M-1 Carbines some where and I might swap out the AR Grendel with the M-77 Grendel. Your thoughts?
natertot
09-24-2011, 11:52 PM
.22LR Revolver
S&W Sigma 9mm
Remington 870 Wingmaster 20Ga
Remington 870 Express 12 Ga
Ruger 10/22 .22LR
Mosin Nagant 7.62x54R
Gewehr 98 8mm Mauser
PSE Compound Bow
I would Like to add a semi auto center fire rifle, but other than that, I feel pretty good about what I have and their capabilities.:thumbup1:
hunter63
09-25-2011, 12:01 PM
I'm kinda liking the thoughts thus far, seems there was some thought to covering the bases, along with expense constraints.
I believe you could get way with:
12 ga shot gun
AR something larger than .223/5.56 upper
.22 something or other
.357 or Glock/Springfield w/barrel inserts.
Bow of some sort.
Idea being to cover bases with your ideal mix.
If your choices do double duty, so much the better, sorta hard to carry too many firearms at once.
There is a lot to be said about Mosin and Mauser center fire as a long shooter.
natertot
09-25-2011, 12:59 PM
I'm kinda liking the thoughts thus far, seems there was some thought to covering the bases, along with expense constraints.
I believe you could get way with:
12 ga shot gun
AR something larger than .223/5.56 upper
.22 something or other
.357 or Glock/Springfield w/barrel inserts.
Bow of some sort.
Idea being to cover bases with your ideal mix.
If your choices do double duty, so much the better, sorta hard to carry too many firearms at once.
There is a lot to be said about Mosin and Mauser center fire as a long shooter.
I agree completely Hunter. I believe everyone should have a Mosin. Is it the most accurate? No. Is it the Prettiest? No. But it is accurate enough, rough, rugged, and proven over and over again. I can get them for $80 each and come with a full set of accessories, including bayonet. Another $500 and you have a 1000 rounds of commercial non-corrosive ammo.
8MM mausers are not much more than the mosins and carry the same benefits.
Don't get me wrong, one day I would love to have a Rem 700, but my Mauser and Mosin are good enough for the price they cost. Next summer is When I home to get my semi-auto center fire rifle. Hmmmm. AK or AR??????????
hunter63
09-25-2011, 01:46 PM
Personnely I went the AR route, as changing uppers is very easy, and doesn't require buying different guns. Pricey though....
AK's have their place as a MBR, but I don't beleve are as good as a hunting rifle. IMHO
oldtrap59
09-25-2011, 07:43 PM
Wngmaster in 12 and 20 gauge
H&R topper 410 Shoots a slug pretty good.Good hog gun.
H&R Ultra in 308 Very accurate
older AR 15 in 223 Wish I had some those high capacity mags
older AR 10 in 308 Again wishing for high capacity mags
Harritage arms 22 22mag revolver
Two 629 SW in 44 mag
Two handmade longbows and alot of handmade arrows
This may not sound like much but handles my needs. I have had the AR's for years but they will both put out alot of rounds quickly. I know,I know.Lots of guys will think I'm nuts choosing wheel guns over autos but I can fire off 12 rounds and reload pretty quick. Not as fast as you and your clips but how many clips do you have before your loading clips and I'm loading my 629's in seconds.IMO
Oldtrap
natertot
09-25-2011, 09:20 PM
Personnely I went the AR route, as changing uppers is very easy, and doesn't require buying different guns. Pricey though....
AK's have their place as a MBR, but I don't beleve are as good as a hunting rifle. IMHO
I am thinking the AR route. AK's are half the price, but not nearly as accurate as an AR. I also like the endless accesories available for the AR. I also used an M-16 in the Navy and more familiar with it. I also like how .223 is readily available anywhere, even police cruisers if it is a realllllllly bad situation. Just my thoughts.
Oldtrap, i get what you are saying about reloading a wheel gun is faster than reloading mags. Think aboout this though. A pistol, for me, is a secondary firearm after my 12ga. I keep 25 rounds of 00Buck with it at all times. I also have 81 rounds in mags with my pistol. If a situation requires more than 106 rounds, I'm screwed no matter what and will be retreating no later than the time I'm down to two mags. The only thing that would change this is if I have more fighting along beside me. Don't get me wrong, wheel guns have their place. I just like speed if I got lead coming in my direction. JMHO.
Mischief
09-26-2011, 07:12 PM
With primatives,I would go flintlock all the way. Easy to knap some sparking rock then to build caps.
SARKY
09-26-2011, 09:54 PM
It is easy enough to make caps for a percussion rifle by using a tool from Bass pro shop that punches and forms them out of soda cans. then just use the tip off a strike anywhere match as primer.
lucznik
09-26-2011, 09:59 PM
1. Homestead:
Shotgun - Benelli Nova 12 ga.
Rifle - Win m70 .264 Win Mag
Foraging/varmint Win m63 .22 LR
Nite stand. .357 Mag S&W 686+ Mtn Gun
2. Hunting:
Rifle - Win m70 .264 Win Mag
Rifle Varmint - Win m63 .22 LR
Shotgun - Benelli Nova 12 ga.
Handgun - .357 Mag S&W 686+ Mnt Gun
3. Vehicle Carry:
Shot - Benelli Nova 12 ga.
rifle - Win m70 .264 Win Mag
hand gun - .357 Mag S&W 686+ Mtn Gun
4. Personal Carry:
Hand gun - .357 Mag S&W 686+ Mtn Gun
5. MBR (Main Battle Rifle):
Tact Shotgun - Benelli Nova 12 ga.
Long range rifle - Win m70 .264 Win Mag
Hand gun - .357 Mag S&W 686+ Mtn Gun
6. Primitive Firearms:
percussion rifle - None
percussion shotgun - None
percussion pistol - None
Flintlock rifle - None
7. Primitive Weapons:
Bow - Handcrafted bamboo backed yew longbow
Cross bow - None
Mischief
09-26-2011, 10:25 PM
It is easy enough to make caps for a percussion rifle by using a tool from Bass pro shop that punches and forms them out of soda cans. then just use the tip off a strike anywhere match as primer.
Thanks Sarky did not know that. Do you have the item no for the tool,as I looked but did no see.
Here you go:
http://www.forsterproducts.com/client_images/catalog19938/pages/files/Tap-O-Cap_TC1000-001.pdf
Midway has it for $30. That should pay for itself:
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=842064
hunter63
09-27-2011, 01:07 PM
It is easy enough to make caps for a percussion rifle by using a tool from Bass pro shop that punches and forms them out of soda cans. then just use the tip off a strike anywhere match as primer.
Thanks for posting this.
I have seen these around for a long time, most every one seems to use child's cap gun caps,.... never heard of any one using strike anywhere matches as a substitute.
So I guess my question has to be....have you done this,? ...if so how did the match head fit into a #11 cap housing?
Not trying to give you a bad time, but I thinking this isn't gonna work, and if it does, how reliable is it?
My way of thinking is the a flint lock is much more practual and reliable as it is a proven design, doesn't require you to purchase and stock anything except powder...Which, I understand is possible to manufacture.
I guess you could scrape some of the match head off the stick, pile it up and strike it with a hammer...like we used to do with cap gun caps...to try it.
But at this point I'm gonna chaulk those punches up as a feel good toy.
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