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[nilespathfinder]

wow, there are really only a few people who always comment on here, do most people just read and get info? alot of stuff is just repeated alot. do you guys have like special event topics, examples of popular topics, more video how to's or what? know of any other good refference sites or things of that nature? just wondering is all. well thanks for reading and letting me know about stuff if you do.

[DOGMAN]

I am not really sure what happened to this forum Niles. Once upon a time it was a vibrant, thriving community with alot of discussion, and alot of active posters. Now, you can almost check it once a week and stay on top of the discussions. Don't be fooled though- there are alot of knowledgeable members lurking here- you just gotta get them talking.

[Sourdough]

What is the very best "Survival Knife"........?

What is the Very best "Survival Firearm"....?

Hi.....My name is Bobby, I am 15 years old, and next summer I want to spend a year in the wilderness, WHAT do I need, if anything........????

[crashdive123]

What is it that you're looking for Niles?

[Sourdough]

The truth is most "New" members come, look around and leave, we get a lot of 11 year old survival specialist. A lot of people obsessed with drinking pee. A lot come wanting to move to the wilderness, and one or two have really done it, MountainTrekker is one. One porblem is when you move to the wilderness you soon realize it is 17 hours of hard manual labor, gut'wrenching failed dreams & painful heartbreak. The last thing you want to do is chitchat. What you do is go on line and find out how to fix the dozer, generator, or butcher a moose.

One sad problem is that many of the members who are doing what most dream of, just get bored with city people asking questions while at work as a form of office entertainment, one soon realizes that they are being used as content for people who just want to be entertained.

[Sourdough]

I am not really sure what happened to this forum Niles. Once upon a time it was a vibrant, thriving community with alot of discussion, and alot of active posters. Now, you can almost check it once a week and stay on top of the discussions. Don't be fooled though- there are alot of knowledgeable members lurking here- you just gotta get them talking.

We have lost a lot of top shelf members: WildWoman, WarEagle, Graywolf, Alaskan Survivalist, Kevin (Kilkak). I think one reason they leave is because they came to help, to give first hand experience, and what they get is disrespected, and challenged by clueless inter-city computer survivalist. For me I feel betrayed, by people you try to help, only to find my bear knowledge on some 13 year kids "Master'Survivalist" blog posts.
I have been disappointed with all of the forums. I just really like the members here, or I would be AWOL. I spend most of my computer time on the: Alaska Outdoors Forum, we have a lot of new hunters with lots of new hunter questions.

[nilespathfinder]

i was just hopein that there would be a broader range of topics being discused is all, dont get me wrong the site is great and i have found alot of cool things and topics, and see them in different perspectives now, and i know theres more than one way to get things done. some things i read are like what !!!! why do you got to say it like that, i mean some responses are just rude. or maybe im just not getting the history of the conversation or something.

[DOGMAN]

Yep Sourdough, this forum is an interesting one. I think I keep coming back basically because of you, Rick and Crash. For some reason I feel a sense of loyalty to this place- and feel its my internet family. I started checking in over at Bushcraft USA and that forum is full of activity. So full of activity though that you never seem to get to know peoples personalities or quirks like you do here- but there is alot of great info and discussions.

I basically didn't post on a forum from May until a couple of weeks ago- I worked pretty much non-stop for a few months and now have a little time to ease up before the rush for winter prep is on. I was surprised that i was able to catch up on everything here in a day!

Did you perhaps meet a couple of pretty gals from Montana in your town this summer? Turns out I have a good buddy here who owns a cabin there, and a couple of my friends spent a week up there in June at his place....

[Sourdough]

Did you perhaps meet a couple of pretty gals from Montana in your town this summer? Turns out I have a good buddy here who owns a cabin there, and a couple of my friends spent a week up there in June at his place....


Sadly NO I did not. But I live about 10 miles out of po'dunk. And only go into the Post Office twice a year. How is that young man of yours, what is he two.....?

[DOGMAN]

Sadly NO I did not. But I live about 10 miles out of po'dunk. And only go into the Post Office twice a year. How is that young man of yours, what is he two.....?

Actually, he'll be 3 in just a couple of weeks! Time sure flys doesn't it. Thanks for asking about him. He is doing really well. he's my little side kick. He is obsessed with hunting and wildlife (Elk, Bears, Mountain Lions, Bison, bighorn sheep and Rattlesnakes), but he shows little interest in rivers or sled dogs. He is not scared of anything, and is the most bull-headed kid I have ever met. It looks like I am going to have my hands full for awhile to come.
And the big news is- i have another one on the way....

[Sourdough]

Actually, he'll be 3 in just a couple of weeks! Time sure flys doesn't it. Thanks for asking about him. He is doing really well. he's my little side kick. He is obsessed with hunting and wildlife (Elk, Bears, Mountain Lions, Bison, bighorn sheep and Rattlesnakes), but he shows little interest in rivers or sled dogs. He is not scared of anything, and is the most bull-headed kid I have ever met. It looks like I am going to have my hands full for awhile to come.
And the big news is- i have another one on the way....

Congatulations on many events, but mostly congratulations on living your dream (yes, hell at times) but by'gar you be a doing it.

[COWBOYSURVIVAL]

I think the difference in this forum and others is members here have a life outside of a pc. Otherplaces I see tons of members posting all day long. You can see the speed pick up here early am, lunchtime, and evenings. I know I have learned more here than other forums.

[Rick]

Let me check my watch, yep, here we go again.

It's summer time. Folks are out doing stuff. Give it a month or two and folks will be back inside.

[crashdive123]

Niles - there really are a wide variety of topics discussed here. Actually, more so than the forum title would suggest (narrow focus of wilderness survival). The search feature in VBulletin isn't the greatest, so sometimes finding things can be frustrating. I hope that you feel free enough to bring up topics to get the discussion going. As far as what sometimes comes across as rude - yep - there is some of that, just as there is in real life. Probably a bit more sometimes since we aren't standing within arms reach of each other. I think people here are encouraged to express their opinions in a respectful manner. Sometimes an intervention is required, but for the most part it remains pretty civil. There are of course the occasions when a troll is batted around like a cat with a ball of string, but that's to be expected.

As far as activity - people come and go for their own reasons. Activity on the forum does pick up during winter. During the summer many are out doing what they enjoy (and hopefully telling and posting pictures when they can). Personally, when the weather cools off down here I am not on-line as much (the reason I don't have too many posts).:innocent:

[Sourdough]

Niles, You might look at some of the blog posts, there you get the information without the chatter.

[SemperFi]

I dont know what this forum WAS like before , I do know its very informational and Im happy with that , most of the STF forums are keyboard survivalists and they tend to run you out real quick , the first time someone says something that actually means anything the groups trounce on you as a troll , sadly (at least for them ) by doing that ,they kick out or ban people and they are stuck with "call of duty" survivalists , makes for a terrible forum! One thing Im learned on survival forums is to stay away from politics and religion , theres no place for these subjects , and thankfully in this forum there is none! This place is for people of like minds and from what ive seen so far a pretty good forum , Im sure theres some that have in the past ran out some good peeps but that happens , Ive seen some great stuff in here , learning about wildflowers , people who make there own knives , different techniques , I love it and I dont care or even want a massive forum , this is fine for me!

[southern woods]

i was just hopein that there would be a broader range of topics being discused is all, dont get me wrong the site is great and i have found alot of cool things and topics, and see them in different perspectives now, and i know theres more than one way to get things done. some things i read are like what !!!! why do you got to say it like that, i mean some responses are just rude. or maybe im just not getting the history of the conversation or something.

I have been reading alot of threads here since joining. Mostly without even signing in. All because of what you are referring to. I'm afraid to post any new threads because of the responses I've seen from past threads. It seems that rude comments are encouraged. Some feel they have to test everyone who comes through here just to see how they compare to the abilities and achievements of themselves.

I see a great deal of expert advice without anything to back it up. No pictures, videos, trip reports from time in the wilds. There are some really knowledgable members that voice their opinion and help when someone asks questions. They seem to be the minority.

I'm not posting my pictures and videos for others to bash. Especially when they never post any their self.

I know going into detail about what I've seen here in so little time will have consequences. I'm prepared for that. While they are here posting, I'll be in the woods doing. But please take my comments with a grain of salt. After all it's just my opinion.

[hunter63]

Like all things, forums come and go, expand and contract, this one I do consider a home....Met several members in person, found our interests alike, which is why we all came here to start with.

I stop in to a couple of other forums form time to time (OMG), some have a lot of activity, Low in content..... Seems a lot of threads are of the "I need a pair of socks, coffee pot, phone app, ....what kind to buy" variety, over and over, to the point of nausea....Then argue about the choices.

I rather see some one that says, "Hey I got one of these,...or tried this/that....made one of these...." Then discuss it,.... and if it didn't work out so well, laugh about it.
You don't have to look far to see who the do-ers are...Lots of talents around here, if you do a little digging

Seems to me that this forum has more real do-ers than talkers/posers.
But that's just me......You get out, what you put in.

[Rick]

Actually, SW, we work hard to avoid the very thing you're describing. There is a lot of joking around but rude comments are not tolerated. If you look you'll find a LOT of threads that have been locked down for that very reason.

[crashdive123]

I have been reading alot of threads here since joining. Mostly without even signing in. All because of what you are referring to. I'm afraid to post any new threads because of the responses I've seen from past threads. It seems that rude comments are encouraged. Some feel they have to test everyone who comes through here just to see how they compare to the abilities and achievements of themselves.

I see a great deal of expert advice without anything to back it up. No pictures, videos, trip reports from time in the wilds. There are some really knowledgable members that voice their opinion and help when someone asks questions. They seem to be the minority.

I'm not posting my pictures and videos for others to bash. Especially when they never post any their self.

I know going into detail about what I've seen here in so little time will have consequences. I'm prepared for that. While they are here posting, I'll be in the woods doing. But please take my comments with a grain of salt. After all it's just my opinion.

I'd like to address each of your points as politely as I can - not being sarcastic when I say that.

1. I disagree with your assessment that rude comments are encouraged. If you could show me an example of that (you can send it via PM if you like) I would appreciate it. As far as some members "testing everyone" I can see your point to some extent, but not for the reasons that you state (again - just my opinion). If somebody is giving advice, it is nice to know from whom we (or I if you prefer) are/am receiving it from. One example I use when explaining this is advice on bears. We have a few members that live in bear country and probably have encounters with them on a daily basis during certain times of the year, yet we will have somebody come on here every now and then and espouse pulling out your Swiss Army Knife and attacking the bear to protect yourself. Have they ever tried it? Of course not, but they read it on the Internet so it must be true. Another example would be advice on firearms or knives. I personally am uncomfortable giving some advice to a minor where parental involvement should be included. My options? Ask them a little about themselves or ignore them. I used to ask politely or in a humorous way, but was told it upset some so I no longer ask. Now I just shy away from answering those type questions unless I know more.

2. To some extent I have addressed that in #1, but you are correct about an Internet full of experts. I think we do a fair job of raising the BS flag when disinformation is being given. Often times this results in some of the rude comments that have been mentioned in this thread.

3. It's too bad that you will not post your pictures and videos. I've posted some pretty lame pictures and videos (you should have seen the first knife I made) and nobody bashed them. Quite the opposite was the case. I received quite a few tips to improve what I was doing. I owe a lot to forum members here for helping me to improve what I was doing. By not posting, don't you become part of the problem that bothers you?

4. Your last comment is probably the most rude that I have read today. Saying that you are out and doing it while everybody else here just talks about it assumes a lot. If this is truly your attitude, I can see why you feel the way you do.

[southern woods]

Crashdive123, I respect your opinion. I was actully referring to you and a select few others when I spoke of the minority that helps people. The statement about rudeness encouraged is from my first post where I was openly shunned because I broke an unwritten rule a moderator has that directly contradicts the written rules of the forum. Then when I contacted the owner/administrator of the forum by PM I was told that is just how things are. I take that as rude behavior being encouraged. There have been numerous threads that have addressed the rude/abrasive behavior I experienced. Most all have resulted in those that complained being bullied into submission or leaving all together.

The reason I don't post is the frequent use of derogatory names given to and phrases used to describe someone that is deemed new to the woods. Numpty comes to mind right off. Horrible thing to be called when looking for guidance and instruction from others.

Again this is only my opinion. I may be wrong. Others may have had a completely different experience. But there must have been some others that see what I have seen for it to be brought up a few times a year.

[cowgirlup]

Back to the OP.There is a ton of info here. Just search the past threads.
if you see something that interests you or you have a question you can always get the topic going again.

I don't have time to be here that often. And I'm not that interesting so I don't post much.
It's always a top notch place to visit though.

[Rick]

I'm not that interesting

We'll be the judge of that (yes, you are!)

[crashdive123]

I'm not that interesting

Sure you are. Wasn't it you that was dancing last Christmas?:innocent:

[LowKey]

A numpty isn't someone new to the woods. It's someone who doesn't think and wanders off into the woods in a manner that could get themselves or others killed.
That's different from someone wanting to learn.

Back to the OP, did you check out the landing page that this forum is part of?
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/
Lot of good stuff there.

[Winter]

Interesting thread.

I've noticed "rudeness" but I think it's more accurately described as impatience.

Since I've been here, a yr or so, I've seen some older members sour quite a bit. Personally, I try to only post on what I actually know from doing or theoretical techniques I assume based on what I know.

Many avoid posts they know nothing about.

I see 20 solid posters. Half of them are knife nerds like me.

I love this forum, honestly. You can tell who has been there and done that and you can recognize genuine questions for what they are.

An example is the "best knife" discussion. There's a far cry between "Whats the best knife; I wanna buy a knife, what do you suggest?" AND "I've been using an Old Henry Golden Spike for 3 yrs and it has some drawbacks. I like the handle and guard but the blade seems mostly suited for dressing game. What do you suggest as a general field/survival knife for shelter building and making field expediant tools/furniture/traps etc?"

Questions asked need to be specific. The same person could post those previous questions, but the second question tells us knife nerds alot more about their needs. For knife newbs I always tell them to take out any knife, try to do the tasks you expect of your knife, and asses what you need based on the knowledge base you just achieved.

Many of us live in BF Egypt, many don't, but the "wilderness" is really any stand of trees, clump of swamp, or acre of desert earth.

Blah blah blah, right?

The key to a good thread is a good question. A good question brings out those who know, and those who don't. Like any interweb forum it's up to the reader to separate wheat from chafe.

This is the primary reason for the indepth introductions this forum wants. Say Bob is from Ittybitytown Idaho and Slim is from Bigtown NJ. They both respond to your "What's the best survival boot?" thread. It's nice to Know that Bob is a car salseman in Ittybittytown, and Slim is an ex Navy SERE instructor in Bigtown.

All info should be filtered through it's source.

Is this a short story yet?

[Rick]

I don't know about a short story but the post was +1 in my book.

[Winter]

Thanks Rick, I have my moments of lucidity.

[kyratshooter]

I had a moment of lucidity once but I can't remember what it was about.

Does this thread count as our simi-annual "you guys have no manners" attitude adjustment?

Last time we had this discussion we stopped asking for introductions (since getting to know someone was considered "rude") and now we know nothing about anyone, which is the core problem in the present discussion.

[Winter]

As long as you knew then, it's lucid. Right?

[Sourdough]

Good post Winter, rep point sent.

[Winter]

Thanks SD, you live further out then I but, we both live 100 yards from the wilderness. We need to breath in and out slowly from time to time.

It's advice I used to give in the service and also now. Everything is easy if you know how. Ever ask a plumber for advice and they say "Oh, it's easy" and you spend 8 &*&^%$$ hrs figuring it out?

Well, everything you know is easy. It's breaking it down to points that those who don't think it's easy to understand that is key to teaching anything.

This is a problem I have with subordinates over the yrs. I've done it 100 times so I don't realize it's really not that damn easy and I can't understand why they don't pick it up like an old pro.

Info always has to be taught or given out like you would like it to have been given to you when you knew nothing.

[DOGMAN]

I have been reading alot of threads here since joining. Mostly without even signing in. All because of what you are referring to. I'm afraid to post any new threads because of the responses I've seen from past threads. It seems that rude comments are encouraged. Some feel they have to test everyone who comes through here just to see how they compare to the abilities and achievements of themselves.

I see a great deal of expert advice without anything to back it up. No pictures, videos, trip reports from time in the wilds. There are some really knowledgable members that voice their opinion and help when someone asks questions. They seem to be the minority.

I'm not posting my pictures and videos for others to bash. Especially when they never post any their self.

I know going into detail about what I've seen here in so little time will have consequences. I'm prepared for that. While they are here posting, I'll be in the woods doing. But please take my comments with a grain of salt. After all it's just my opinion.

I don't get out much. I am really more of an "indoorsman" and armchair adventurer. However, the few times I did get out last year i posted pics here and fortunalty nobody bashed them. I think its safe to post your pics here- i bet nobody will bash them.
Here is a series of posts I put up earlier this year. Several other members shared their rare outings as well....please join us and post yours too.


http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?15743-My-favorite-pics-from-the-past-year-of-quot-Boots-in-the-Field-quot
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?13960-Boots-in-the-Field-Journal-Volume-1
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?13978-Boots-in-the-Field-Journal-Volume-2
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?13986-Boots-in-the-Field-Journal-Volume-3
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?13995-Boots-in-the-Field-Journal-Volume-4
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?14011-Boots-in-the-Field-Journal-Volume-5

[Sourdough]

Another problem (Read a source of basis for arguments) that comes up is myths. Things we believe are true but are not true. If your mother or your father said it was true, you/me/we will argue that it is true. I want to start a thread on this subject soon.

[Rick]

Dogman - I'll bet you show up at the Pearly Gates wearing fake horns.

St. Peter checking invitation list looks up and sees horn: "Hey! Just a minute you!"
Dogman: "What?"

[DOGMAN]

...my excuse for all my bad behaviour growing up....or, throughout my life really (can't say I've changed as an adult)....has always been, "the devil made me do it".....ha ha ha

[hunter63]

I don't get out much. I am really more of an "indoorsman" and armchair adventurer. However, the few times I did get out last year i posted pics here and fortunalty nobody bashed them. I think its safe to post your pics here- i bet nobody will bash them.
Here is a series of posts I put up earlier this year. Several other members shared their rare outings as well....please join us and post yours too.


http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?15743-My-favorite-pics-from-the-past-year-of-quot-Boots-in-the-Field-quot
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?13960-Boots-in-the-Field-Journal-Volume-1
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?13978-Boots-in-the-Field-Journal-Volume-2
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?13986-Boots-in-the-Field-Journal-Volume-3
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?13995-Boots-in-the-Field-Journal-Volume-4
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?14011-Boots-in-the-Field-Journal-Volume-5



Yeah Right, Hahahahahaha.
You go, Big guy

[finallyME]

Posting pictures is proof that you are actually doing something. It adds to your credibility and separates you from the armchair elites. You can't bash a picture that shows someone is doing it. So, post or don't post, no one will bash them if you do. But, until you do, no one will believe you.

[Chris]

I don't think I've ever encouraged rudeness. I don't want rudeness.

I know you're talking about Sarge right. So lets talk about Sarge. Sarge is a curmudgeon, that is just how he is. It is his personality. One of the problems with online communication is that you lack the visual, vocal, and other social cues that provide context to a conversation. I told you that is just how he is and you shouldn't take it personally.

Believe me, the last thing I want is new members scared off.

[Chris]

Another problem (Read a source of basis for arguments) that comes up is myths. Things we believe are true but are not true. If your mother or your father said it was true, you/me/we will argue that it is true. I want to start a thread on this subject soon.

And that is just normal. Tell me there is a forum without arguments, I'll call you a liar.

http://blogs.technet.com/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/communityserver-components-postattachments/00-02-99-89-79/wrong.jpg

[letslearntogether47]

I'm just happy the site isn't all about zombie armagedon.
And I'm very glad I found this place.I got some great info and learned a few things as well.
The site has a wealth of information when using the "search" feature as well.
I really only comment on things I have done or accomplished,such as primitive fire methods.
That's one reason I added that to "what I wish to learn" in my intro.

[nilespathfinder]

wow, alot of really good points were made here, personal opinions and points of view. as far as posting pics to prove you know what your talking about, i call B S"!
if someone literally takes the time to post a paragraph or 2 here and there and give instructions on what they are talking about, and its filled with actual specifics, and people try it and its just how they read it, then thats the proof i need to know that they are for real, i dont need to post a 20 min video rambling on and on off the topic of the video to prove to anyone i know what im doing. first off some people may not have the money for the video recorder, because they spend money on the gear, as in my case. i dont need to prove anything, hell i could sit here and say that everyone who posts a video just watched the stuff on youtube and made their own video and make it seem like they are a seasoned woodsman. if you listen and pay attention to what is said you will know the true woodsman from the wanna be woodsman, which i have seen both on here! granted their is alot more seasoned vets on here than most sites, and pleases me very much, which is why im still here. i was brought up in the woods, they are part of me, i am part of them, believe me or not , i know the truth. Reading posts from some of the veterans here of past posts you can tell whos knows what they are talking about and those are what i pay attention to, i look for their posts. i didnt mean to cause a bunch of crap, but i just wanted to voice what i have found, along with the wealth of info as a few have pointed out. but i think i'll be gone for a bit, i may be back in a week or so, got a new son to take care of, then im going camping. have a good day..

[crashdive123]

I think he was joking about the pics. You know the saying - pics or it didn't happen?

[finallyME]

everyone who posts a video just watched the stuff on youtube and made their own video and make it seem like they are a seasoned woodsman.

Hey, I resemble that remark. ;)

[southern woods]

wow, alot of really good points were made here, personal opinions and points of view. as far as posting pics to prove you know what your talking about, i call B S"!
if someone literally takes the time to post a paragraph or 2 here and there and give instructions on what they are talking about, and its filled with actual specifics, and people try it and its just how they read it, then thats the proof i need to know that they are for real, i dont need to post a 20 min video rambling on and on off the topic of the video to prove to anyone i know what im doing. first off some people may not have the money for the video recorder, because they spend money on the gear, as in my case. i dont need to prove anything, hell i could sit here and say that everyone who posts a video just watched the stuff on youtube and made their own video and make it seem like they are a seasoned woodsman. if you listen and pay attention to what is said you will know the true woodsman from the wanna be woodsman, which i have seen both on here! granted their is alot more seasoned vets on here than most sites, and pleases me very much, which is why im still here. i was brought up in the woods, they are part of me, i am part of them, believe me or not , i know the truth. Reading posts from some of the veterans here of past posts you can tell whos knows what they are talking about and those are what i pay attention to, i look for their posts. i didnt mean to cause a bunch of crap, but i just wanted to voice what i have found, along with the wealth of info as a few have pointed out. but i think i'll be gone for a bit, i may be back in a week or so, got a new son to take care of, then im going camping. have a good day..

Excellent post. Have a great trip.

[Willie]

I'm a lover not a fighter....wrong forum... I mean I'm a reader not a poster. I'm on here almost every day but its just reading old post and stuff. So far every question I have had has been covered so I just read. And the people are really cool! Its like being a member of the cool kid club.

Willie

[DOGMAN]

I posted pics (or a post of alot of pic threads) not to prove that I know anything- I posted them in response to
Southern Woods remarks...

"I see a great deal of expert advice without anything to back it up. No pictures, videos, trip reports from time in the wilds. There are some really knowledgable members that voice their opinion and help when someone asks questions. They seem to be the minority. I'm not posting my pictures and videos for others to bash. Especially when they never post any their self."

I just wanted to point out that many (most) of us have posted lots of pics in the past of our various exploits and experiences. Heck, we value documentation so much that we've even had contests with real awards for posting pics.

As far as posting pics to "prove I know what I am talking about"...feel free to call BS on me....'cause I am definetly full of poop.....I don't post on here to prove anything. I post on here to entertain myself. Generally speaking, I don't like to give out advice, or practical information or tips, I am more comfortable dealing with the absurd and creating chaos than I am having a meaningful conversation- online or in person.

[Rick]

Now I expect a picture of chaos or it didn't happen.

[SemperFi]

Posting pics doesnt make it anyway , I could post pics I found on the internet ,how would anyone know any different ? Was it really me or am I just a suburbia woodsman? Nope , most people I see on here truly believe in what they are saying , I wouldnt still be here otherwise , sure there funning around , you have to get along with people ,obviously people of like minds will stick around even if they arent friends ,no sir , this site is the best wilderness site I have seen and Ive seen many, didnt last long on any of them ,like some one else mentioned , most of them have the zombies taking over the planet! Or the doomsdayers , what I like about this site is ,its strictly business , there is no doomsday coming (but if there is we're gonna be ready!)!!

[finallyME]

Wait, hold the phone. This site isn't about zombies? Dang it, I thought it was. Now I gotta go find me a forum about zombies. Anyways, I am a suburban woodsman. Well, I wouldn't go as far to say I am a woodsman, but I do live in a suburb.

[Phaedrus]

I really like the place but my life is really crazy at the moment. On top of dealing with life (ie Dad passing away, getting Mom moved to my town and getting settled, estate stuff, etc) there's work, leaving me less time than normal. Plus I'm trying to get the last bit of summer lived before the snows begin to fly again. I agree, winters I post more- summer I like to be out "doing" not sitting in front of the PC.

One other issue for me is that I'm a member of a lot of forums. I'm a Mod at one audio forum and an Admin at another. Plus I know a bunch of you folks from ST where I also post (although I haven't been there either in a few days). In the end I get spread too thin. And I HATE to admit it, but I hang more at the sites with more traffic. The sucky thing is that's a self fulfilling prophecy- I hang there because more people do, yet by posting here less I help drive the other sites more. But it can be frustrating if I only have a few minutes to catch up and I pop in only to find there hasn't been a new post in a week.

I do really love the site, though, so don't get me wrong. :blushing:

[LowKey]

I've never understood this forum angst.
On another forum where I was a moderator for 6 years, it was a yearly thing. Always in February when the days are short and cold and people are just done with being cooped up.
"Used to be moderator" cuz I started telling people to grow up, so they fired me.

It's an internet forum. Give and take. Give a little of what you know, take away what you can glean from others. For all the whining and complaining and taking comments personally here, there is absolutely nothing wrong with this forum. Members come and go. That's what happens. Life gets in the way. That happens too. If you want chatty interactivity, go out and find a Rendezvous or a Re-enactors group or a Foraging group or a Historical society that focuses on living using the old methods. Or go out and actually claim that bit of homestead life. Or do your preps in the suburbs like a lot of us do. Not everyone can or is suited to the life that Sourdough, Dogman or NorthStar live. It doesn't matter where you are.

Then, if you feel like it, come back on and talk about it in a place where there aren't the swarming teenagers who sneer at anything that's not Bear Gryllis Orange.

[Rick]

+1 Lowkey. Tell me more about how you managed to get fired. Any pointers you can share? (sigh...there is hope I guess)

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