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Sarge47

09-09-2011, 10:34 PM

Everybody's situation is usually different. Watching the survival shows I can understand why the TV producers have to find new and exciting locales to strand the survival pros! A lot of Wilderness areas have shrunk considerably! So what's your situation like? What do you perceive as a potential danger to you and your loved ones? Do you live in an area where bad flooding can be a hazard? What about the possibility of toxic spills or tornadoes/hurricanes? What are your safeties? In other words what do you have to keep yourself alive until help arrives? Here's an example of my situational awareness to illustrate the concept I'm trying to explain.

I know for a fact that if I go "afield" at all, 99% of the time my car is going to be a few yards away at most. So, at this time anyway, backpacking is not going to happen, although a day hike might be a reality. About a half a mile away a railroad line runs parallel to my home. Trains constantly are going back & forth. I've even seen the Barnum & Bailey train go by on 3 different occasions. A derailment could occur causing a toxic spill or the release of some pretty dangerous animals. If I'm fortunate to know about it ahead of time I'll be in pretty good shape, but if not I could be in a world of hurt! Right outside my door is an oak tree loaded with acorns at this time of year. Now I don't think that for one moment I could remember how to make acorns safe for eating but they do act as bait for a bunch of squirrels that hang around! I'm also right on the edge of town facing wooded areas and agricultural fields; Deer and Rabbits thrive there! Racoons live under the homes here as well. See what I'm driving at? Start writing down notes about potential hazards and potential safety! Do it as soon as you can, it could prove to be a lifesaver! :winkiss:

Rick

09-09-2011, 10:47 PM

In the business world it's call a SWOT. Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities, Threats. You're right on the mark, Sarge. It is a very necessary ritual. Some do intuitively and some do it intentionally. I'm in the latter group. I want to write it down and see if I miss anything.

Strengths: Nearly complete on all preps (yes, I am). Close proximity to core family. BOB is evergreen and checked frequently. Tests are conducted at home.

Weaknesses: Health and Age I guess. Hearing. Still can't convince the kids of the need to plan. Home is above ground.

Opportunities: Increase ammo. Increase food stores.

Threats: Sub-urban environment with all associated threats. Tornado alley. Down wind of at least 7 nuclear reactors.

SARKY

09-09-2011, 10:54 PM

Rick, have you checked out Monolithic Dome homes? You could just earth berm it.

Rick

09-09-2011, 10:58 PM

I want to go underground but my wife doesn't. I don't win all the battles around here.

peter

09-09-2011, 11:58 PM

My danger, & safety are found in the same place. My safety is the bush, i could go into the bush, and not come back out for a very long time. Bush fires are my danger, that is one thing that scares me.

mouse111111

09-10-2011, 03:19 PM

I guess I've been doing this insticntively, I never really though about writing it down...

I live in a pretty rural area although there is a fair sized city about 10 miles from me. I live right on a major highway, route 66 and a railroad. Spills are a major problem. The topography is Karst, limestone everywhere whitch means farming is harder and if there were an earthquake on the new madrid fault, we would get the effects of it.We are in the middle of tornadoe ally.

I have a small pond in my field with bluegill, channel cats, and frogs. It is a stopping point for wood ducks and canada geese.(I think both are protected but I wouldn't hesitate taking one for survival) I also have a grove of walnut trees, that we harvest every year. I have too many rabbits than I know what to do with, they have become a nuisance. Whitetail deer browse the oaks along my lot. I keep tabs on several does in my area. I have fruit trees/bushes that produce periodically through summer: cherries, mulberries, blackberries, raspberries, gooseberries, wild grapes, elderberries, and apples. All of my neighbors have gardens and orchards that we share when the season is good.

hunter63

09-10-2011, 09:34 PM

My danger varies depending where I am.

So the problem involves prep/ asset deployment, redundancy and possible transportation.

Strengths: Preps on-going and being tested, as BOP's tested from time to time, as well.

Weaknesses: Health and Age is going to be an issue for DW more than myself, but long term meds for both....doesn't seem to be any legal good way around this with out continued testing and DR's, just to procure nessessary meds.

Opportunities: City, garden, most preps, tools and stores.....Increasing same at BOL.
Country location, on river, well, wood lot, Ag opportunities, lot of fish and game as well as forage-able plants.
Planning on storm shelter and alternate energy...near future.

Threats: Both locations.... flooding can be an issue as well as tornados. City location possible civil unrest, but still pretty safe.

kyratshooter

09-11-2011, 01:16 AM

In my last move I took care of everything but the tornado threat. Can't do anything about that or where the nuke plants are situated. They are not too close but still closer than I would like. Can't do anything about the New Madrid fault either, except pray it takes out the bridges across the Ohio river if it hits.

The preps are good, good support system and good neighbors. Rural area, good lake nearby, the game would not last long but it is there now.

Weaknesses: I'll be dead in less than a year once the heart meds run out. I can't do anything about that either. That is just the hand I've been delt.

The real crapper is that none of my meds are narcotic or have short expiration cycles. They are good for years and have no recreational value, but the medicos will not give me more than a 3 month supply. They want to "monitor me" in case they need to change or up the dosage. They figure if I have a year supply I will not return for a year and they will be out two or three office visits. If I lived near the Mexican border I would have a 10 year supply!

All the long term preps are for the kids and grandkids anyway.

Rick

09-11-2011, 08:32 AM

And there isn't much recreational fun in arthritis meds. You can't even tie them on string and hang them out front as bait. Life can be such a party pooper. Speaking of which...............................

SemperFi

09-11-2011, 10:41 AM

Ill tell ya this much ,having been a cop , I see everything front and back and sideways , if its 1/4 mile I see it and know what it is ,been that way for years , gotta know your surroundings , my wife has been here her whole life and doesnt know whats 2 blocks away from her , you gotta know where you are and whats near!

Aside from that , I suppose age is sneaking up on me , my hearing is bad , my vision is bad , overall health Im in good shape , but age related problems are existing and increasing , , on the plus side Ive increased my knowledge , Ive increased my "Protective gear" , I would like to increase my food storage and medical supplies , where I live hunting is good , fishing is good , and plenty of water (although it would need purifying) !

Overall Im in a good spot !

hunter63

09-11-2011, 11:46 AM

KRS did touch on a key point.......Your network of family, friends and neighbors.
When something happens, these are just as important as all the rest your preps.
Thanks for the reminder.

erunkiswldrnssurvival

09-11-2011, 06:21 PM

i am living on the edge of the Smoky Mountain National Park. its 6 million acres of hard wood forest nestled in the craggiest mountains in the eastern united states. floods,mudslides,tornadoes,hurricanes,and nuclear fall out are all eminent dangers. i prepare for those dangers as well as i can. as for the fall out i know of an abandoned saphire mine to take refuge in.......

SemperFi

09-12-2011, 09:39 AM

how secure is that saphire mine? I mean usually abandoned mines have been left that way because of safety risks , have you gone in there and secured the place at all? There'd be nothing of great service to you or your family and friends if once inside the abandoned mine you survived the fall-out , only to find you are trapped in the mine itself, which death would be worse?

mouse111111

09-12-2011, 09:41 AM

I guess I should add something to my strengths, I am young enough not to have any medication. My danger, I was born with a club foot so even now I can't hike as long as most people on this site.It will probably come back to haunt me in my later years.

Cousin-IT

09-15-2011, 01:08 AM

S - 20, bulky (good when you don't wanna get robbed and such), could prolly go 6 months without carbs, incredably amount of common sense for my age, been reading up on survival stuff for ages now, can drive

W - over-weight, need more water, taking longer to travel, tire easier, blah, blah, blah

O - do more outside stuff like camping and hiking, gain experince and lose the weight

T - I live in south austalia, the ONLY natural disaster that could effect us is fire/draught/plagues and well people, so i'm pretty sweet :D

oh and safeties....... i no which river to follow to get the biggest lake around :D

Winnie

09-15-2011, 06:41 AM

I wasn't going to post on this, however, I now have a cautionary tale to tell, so I'll start there. This involves the weaknesses. I had pretty much a good idea what my weaknesses were. I have limited funds, no firearm ownership here so I had to get creative on defence, I have no transport, I still can't light a fire without a lighter and I live alone. Now this last one for me is the kicker. At the weekend I hurt my back and for the rest of the week, I have been unable to do even the most basic things. I haven't had a hot meal since saturday because I can't stand long enough to cook it and I don't trust myself to carry out the task safely. If I had to bug-out for any reason, I doubt I could make it to the garden gate and I certainly couldn't carry my BOB. Soooo, while you all think you can run around in the bush, or live like a king in your house. Be aware life has a nasty habit of biting you on the backside and laughing at your plans. No matter how fit, prepared or experienced you think are, remember the Murphy factor.
Strengths. I'm a pretty creative cook, I can grow and preserve food, I live in a safe, rural area. I have a goodly amount of stores. I have a pretty varied set of skills, although I may not be expert.

Pal334

09-15-2011, 06:52 AM

THat is a good reminder Winnie. Old man "Murphy" has a way of upsetting the cart. I hope you feel better soon

BENESSE

09-15-2011, 07:34 AM

Boy, you're SO right, Winnie on all counts. (hope you heal fast!)
Even a simple toothache can throw you off, let alone something painful that impedes your mobility. You can be 20 and in the best of shape, it doesn't matter.
While that's always in the back of my mind, I still try to improve my chances by actively doing what I know will make a difference in being healthy and staying healthy. It's not a guarantee, there isn't one. But it's much more than doing nothing.

Rick

09-15-2011, 07:41 AM

No plan survives the enemy. A saying worth taking to heart.

Assuming this is muscle related, lie in the floor with your feet in a chair. It will help relax the back muscles. Walk for a bit as often as you can. Even just around the house. Exercising the muscles a bit will help (yeah, I know it's painful). Ice will help reduce the inflamation. Sit as little as possible. Lie down or stand. If you must sit then put a small pillow in the small of your back to support it. Flexeril will help relax the back. I assume it's prescription in the UK but I know some stuff we have to have a script for is over the counter there. Hope that helps. Want you back on your feet and dancing!

Winnie

09-15-2011, 08:40 AM

Yup it's muscular, It's an old problem I've lived with for some years. Diclofenac has been prescribed. I thought it was a timely, if painful reminder that Murphy can make a fool of us all.

SemperFi

09-15-2011, 10:16 AM

unfortunately thats the single most troublesome problem all of us face , getting old , we get older , we start ghaving problems , bones, muscles, hearing, vision ,the list goes on . I feel for ya winnie! Thank God Im not in a country that took away my firearm ownership , I could only imagine laying there on the floor helpless , because a physical ailment and some guy comes into my house to rob it and finds me there , who knows what could happen , not only that but waiting for the government healthcare system to look at me and ultimately say "your too old" ,nope not a good thing , sadly our country the USA is heading in the same direction , horde the guns and ammo , and hide wisely!

Rick

09-15-2011, 04:47 PM

The up side, SempFi, is at your age if that guy does find you in the floor you won't get pregnant. That's a good thing by the way.

kameleon

09-15-2011, 09:02 PM

Winnie, I'm sorry to hear about your back. Don't give up! I had trouble with my knee going out and took Osteo BiFlex and heating pads. Finally went away without surgery.

I've been thinking about this and it's a great assessment tool : SWOT !

Strengths: About 3/4 of the way done with preps! I know most of my GOOD routes (still have one or two more to try)

Weakness: I've improved my health, but have a ways to go yet. I can walk 3 to 5 miles, but would like to make it 7.

Opps: Learning all I can right now, taking advantage of every resource, (I'm mostly old-school, not hi-tech though)

Threats: My neighborhood. It isn't the worst, but it definitely has it's problem areas. I know I can't stay in, too many problems in the immediate area.

SemperFi

09-16-2011, 09:03 AM

Well I noticed Rick has assessment tools on one of his websites , Im sure you can add to it if you want to , it really makes sense to have a list of strengths and weaknesses ! Theres so many things to look at !

Winnie

09-16-2011, 09:19 AM

The up side, SempFi, is at your age if that guy does find you in the floor you won't get pregnant. That's a good thing by the way.

You guys speak for yourself!

Rick

09-16-2011, 10:19 AM

Directed at SemperFi. No one else.

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