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Pocomoonskyeyes3

09-06-2011, 09:48 PM

Mine ranks 32nd :blink:

http://mercatus.org/freedom-50-states-2011

Rick

09-06-2011, 09:53 PM

Hot Dog! We're a 3! I'm free. Free I tell ya..... I have to go back to my cell. Visiting hours are over.

Sparky93

09-06-2011, 11:50 PM

Would not of guessed New Hampshire as number 1

crashdive123

09-07-2011, 05:17 AM

Seems as though their criteria for determining freedom is something that fits their own personal political agenda.

pete lynch

09-07-2011, 05:36 AM

Seems as though their criteria for determining freedom is something that fits their own personal political agenda.Was thinking the same thing.
We are ranked 39th. All we need to do to improve our freedom ranking is decriminalize marijuana and allow same-sex civil unions.
Then we'll be free! ( or more free):rolleyes:

JPGreco

09-07-2011, 09:39 AM

Yeah, it's a little hard to compare NY to NH when the population differences are so big. We have something like 20 million people with about half concentrated in one little area, where the gun laws are the strictest. A lot of what that article referenced was NYC laws. Yes, there would be a lot we could fix no doubt, but with a couple of the richest communities in the country and one of the biggest business hubs in the world, what do they expect when it comes to taxes?

SemperFi

09-07-2011, 10:14 AM

Oklahoma

Analysis

Oklahoma is a solid performer and among the most economically free states. Indeed, it is the third-best state in terms of fiscal freedom, with low spending, taxation, and debt. However, like many Southern states, it has much room for improvement in terms of personal freedom. One fiscal oddity is that the government has a bloated payroll that represents 15.2 percent of the private workforce, nearly a standard deviation higher than the national average. In terms of personal freedom, gun control is fairly limited and alcohol taxes and restrictions are decent. However, the state’s marijuana sentencing is unreformed. Indeed, Oklahoma’s lifetime maximum possible sentence for a single marijuana offense is draconian. Asset-forfeiture rules are in need of reform. Several types of gambling are legal (not casinos), though social gambling is technically prohibited. Private- and homeschools are virtually unregulated, though kindergarten attendance is required by law. The state has limited smoking bans with a number of exceptions. Arrests for victimless crimes and the state’s drug law-enforcement rate are at or below national averages. Land-use planning is minimal. Labor and health-insurance laws are generally market friendly. Eminent-domain reform needs much more work. Campaign-finance regulations are quite strict. Improvements have been seen in the state’s liability-system rating.

The main problem with Oklahoma is that it doesnt differentiate between politics and religion , thats the reason many of the laws are so old and have never changed , as far as schools and what not , they rank poorly although much of the money comes from the lottery and the pike (turnpike) , the schools dont see the money for the general population because for some reason it all goes to improving ********** , there magnate schools all over Tulsa ,it used to be only the gifted were excepted ,**********

Welfare programs have killed the budget in Oklahoma even more than the government employees , cut the social programs (a theme the federal government can learn as well)!

BENESSE

09-07-2011, 11:12 AM

Well...my State of Mind is free, my State, not so much.
However, I can always move. The mind, unless I loose it, is going to remain free no matter where I am.

finallyME

09-07-2011, 11:45 AM

A very libertarianistic view.

Woodmaster750

09-07-2011, 12:46 PM

AZ. 22, And that's about right. In all STATE'S Were free as long as we do what were told when were told and how were told.
:-). SEMPER FI.

letslearntogether47

09-07-2011, 12:47 PM

No surprise mine's #46.
Liberal in everything but freedom........

huntermj

09-07-2011, 06:57 PM

I was surprised to see Vermont at 30th. Except for gun and knife laws we have much of the same laws as other states but there not really enforced. LIke in my town you have to submit plans to get a building permit but we dont have anybody who knows how to read blue prints and we dont have any building inspectors. And really no one cares what you do on your own property as long as you dont care what i do on mine. If you dont bother me i wont bother you and i'll see you down at the barn dance Friday night. This is how most towns are here, very Mayberry like. Now around Burlington and surrounding towns its a diferent story. There in it for the tax and fine dollars.

LowKey

09-07-2011, 07:38 PM

I would have guessed Vermont as #1. Not 30th.
Not surprised at all where my state is...

woodsman86

09-07-2011, 08:22 PM

Let's see...

State I grew up in #50
State I claim for tax purpose #40
Current state or residence #14

At least I seem to be heading in the right direction.

I know I will never live in NY again. I would say #50 is accurate.

canid

09-10-2011, 03:07 PM

#48; woo-hoo!

wait; that scale goes the other way...

2dumb2kwit

09-10-2011, 07:35 PM

LOL....they have Alaska listed as 44th.

2dumb2kwit

09-10-2011, 07:37 PM

Well...my State of Mind is free, my State, not so much.
However, I can always move. The mind, unless I loose it, is going to remain free no matter where I am.

If you loose your mind, you may be even freeerer. (Yep...that's a word.) LOL

crashdive123

09-10-2011, 08:14 PM

Hold on just a second now. How can Montana rank 29th? I could have sworn there were two or three Montanans that told us the could do anything there little ole hearts desired because the laws in Montana........well, they just weren't for them.

BENESSE

09-10-2011, 08:53 PM

Well, if you decide to ignore the laws, you can live anywhere. Montana included.

BENESSE

09-10-2011, 08:57 PM

If you loose your mind, you may be even freeerer. (Yep...that's a word.) LOL

Unless of course, you're a paranoid schizophrenic.

Rick

09-10-2011, 10:52 PM

Fortunately, I'm not.
Yes your are.
Shut up, you.

oldtrap59

09-11-2011, 12:53 AM

Well I moved from #13 to #14 some years back. Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Guess if I buy into the writers of this reports views I have little to complain about.

cowgirlup

09-11-2011, 08:48 AM

YAY. I'm in a good state. No state income tax, no sales tax, decent gun laws, no seat belt law, no motorcycle helmet law. They don't even make you have car insurance.

COWBOYSURVIVAL

09-11-2011, 08:55 AM

YAY. I'm in a good state. No state income tax, no sales tax, decent gun laws, no seat belt law, no motorcycle helmet law. They don't even make you have car insurance.

Hmmm, Guess it depends what side of those laws your on, especially refering to the car insurance.

BENESSE

09-11-2011, 08:56 AM

Live free or die...you betcha!

cowgirlup

09-11-2011, 09:00 AM

Hmmm, Guess it depends what side of those laws your on, especially refering to the car insurance.

For those of us who do have it there is an uninsured/underinsured coverage. And you can always sue.

COWBOYSURVIVAL

09-11-2011, 09:10 AM

For those of us who do have it there is an uninsured/underinsured coverage. And you can always sue.

Here we have both of those and I carry underinsured, it is law you have liability. I'll be very careful noone from NH runs into me! LOL!

cowgirlup

09-11-2011, 09:45 AM

Here we have both of those and I carry underinsured, it is law you have liability. I'll be very careful noone from NH runs into me! LOL!

I would think that most people here have insurance to protect their own interests. Just because there is a law doesn't mean people will follow it.

You can't regulate stupidity, responsibility and common sense.

COWBOYSURVIVAL

09-11-2011, 09:56 AM

I would think that most people here have insurance to protect their own interests. Just because there is a law doesn't mean people will follow it.

You can't regulate stupidity, responsibility and common sense.

Your right, I was pickin' at ya a little. Lots of the population here doesn't carry insurance at all, law or no law.

SemperFi

09-11-2011, 10:15 AM

For those of us who do have it there is an uninsured/underinsured coverage. And you can always sue.

Sue who for what? If they dont have insurance ,they obviously cant afford it, which means if you sue them it will cost you court costs and other misc fees for nothing because they wont pay you , then again , a shotgun to nose sometimes makes people pay!

COWBOYSURVIVAL

09-11-2011, 10:38 AM

Sue who for what? If they dont have insurance ,they obviously cant afford it, which means if you sue them it will cost you court costs and other misc fees for nothing because they wont pay you , then again , a shotgun to nose sometimes makes people pay!

Ah come'on tell us how you really feel! (I was trying to be nice)

canid

09-11-2011, 10:22 PM

Well, if you decide to ignore the laws, you can live anywhere. Montana included.

when they finally catch me; can i tell 'em you said it was fine?

Phaedrus

09-12-2011, 02:53 AM

Wow, I'm the 2nd most free! Of course, that's because I'm male...

Rick

09-12-2011, 07:42 AM

Exactly. They can place a stamp on your forehead (lightly ladies) shove you in the mail box and mail you anywhere you want to go. It's wonderful being mail.

BENESSE

09-12-2011, 07:53 AM

Most likely bulk male.

Beans

09-12-2011, 09:43 AM

AZ. 22, And that's about right. In all STATE'S Were free as long as we do what were told when were told and how were told.
:-). SEMPER FI.

I surmise that depends on where you live in the state.

As a whole We got slammed about the checking on legal status before employment and our stand on illegal immigration thinnly vailed as

"1.Spending on “protective inspection and regulation,”
3.Civil liberties are becoming a concern in Arizona.

I grew up and lived in Missouri for almost 30 years, lived in Nevada for almost 30 years and have lived in Az for over 5 years. As for personal freedoms I chose Cochise County AZ over Clark County NV, other then that, I consider both states having more individual freedoms then Missouri.

However my view maybe some slanted about NV and I had no inculcation to vist a brothel, spend all my paycheck gambling or nor have I ever smoked.

Justa couple of examples:

I just licensed a 93 Grand Cherokee total cost including taxes. license and registration for 1 year was $30.00 No smog required, regardless of year of vehicle.

Cochise County has a owner/ builder requirments* opt out for non commerical property.
Buillding permits, plans check, Etc

No gun registeration as required in CLark CO NV, Federal laws still apply.

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