Simple ,Traditional techniques [Archive] - Wilderness Survival Forums

SemperFi

08-31-2011, 10:26 AM

It says Simple , however unless you've tried it ,is it really , like making fire , its a learning experience , sometimes I like to go out and just try to find out what my skills are , drive a long distance from your home , park and walk , get far enough away from your truck as you can , now disorient yourself by turning around several times , now begin (I know it sounds stupid but bear with me) ,now that your out in the wilderness , lets find food , what kinds of things can you eat ? You'd be surprised at what "living" things you'll eat in this situation (plant life thats edible ,a big weakness for me, but there are some plants we all know, brush up on it before leaving) , how to find water and to disinfect it , same for fire can you make it without a lighter,match or magnesium? I would suggest practicing this regularly , fire in particular is a must because in just about all parts of the world you will need it , learn how the natives made fire , water can you tell good from bad , even bad water can remain bad if its boiled ! Can you find your way back to your car , the Sun will help you ,so can the stars , learn orienteering as much as I hated that in the Marines its something that is the utmost in value to have!

Simple techniques that our forefathers uses have been pushed aside with mordernity , They arent simple by a long stretch! But are very doable and with practice ; simple!

Beans

09-01-2011, 02:28 AM

I agree

I was instructed in the Orienteering/map/compass class in Camp Horno in 1962.
However before that in the 1950's I was instructed/taught/learned Orienteering by chasing/following Coon hounds around NE Missouri in the middle of the night. Following the barking until you find the right tree, collect your coon with your .22, then find your way back to the tree where everyone else is sitting telling lies and drinking coffee. AS young as i was I was told it was coffee anyway.

If you got lost they would never let you forget it until something happen to someone else.

Semper Fi

SemperFi

09-01-2011, 09:18 AM

well said devil dog!

kyratshooter

09-03-2011, 11:10 AM

I did not realize Marine training had changed. The first rule Marine officers were taught when handed a compass was "Never admit you are lost." This was a hard and fast rule. I understand that this problem has now been eleviated through use of the GPS system where any disorentation problem is blamed on bad batteries.

How many times do you have to spin before you forget where you are? Not being a Marine I have never developed that skill. I might spin for the whole day trying to forget I was still there!

OMG, I just realized these guys are talking about the ancient skill of navigating without GPS! Oh Lord, my map, compass and land navigation skills now qualify me as a "forefather"!

H&KMP

09-04-2011, 07:30 PM

It says Simple , however unless you've tried it ,is it really , like making fire , its a learning experience , sometimes I like to go out and just try to find out what my skills are , drive a long distance from your home , park and walk , get far enough away from your truck as you can , now disorient yourself by turning around several times , now begin (I know it sounds stupid but bear with me) ,now that your out in the wilderness , lets find food , what kinds of things can you eat ? You'd be surprised at what "living" things you'll eat in this situation (plant life thats edible ,a big weakness for me, but there are some plants we all know, brush up on it before leaving) , how to find water and to disinfect it , same for fire can you make it without a lighter,match or magnesium? I would suggest practicing this regularly , fire in particular is a must because in just about all parts of the world you will need it , learn how the natives made fire , water can you tell good from bad , even bad water can remain bad if its boiled ! Can you find your way back to your car , the Sun will help you ,so can the stars , learn orienteering as much as I hated that in the Marines its something that is the utmost in value to have!

Simple techniques that our forefathers uses have been pushed aside with mordernity , They arent simple by a long stretch! But are very doable and with practice ; simple!

are u serious? I hope u're not seriously encouraging anybody to just do this without any real training or experience! And even if they had some experience, it can be a dangerous thing to do...

The more u know, and the more experienced u are, the more u can do this sort of thing, but otherwise, the level of stuff that u push urself to should just match up with what u know, and have experienced...

SemperFi

09-05-2011, 11:11 AM

Ive always been a risk taker in my life , Marines Law Enforcement , hiking ,motorcycles whatever , I find it easier to read about a subject and try it out , alot of times people are put to the test without prior knowledge , should the average Joe try it out , yes I think he should ,if he wants to survive , sitting back and waiting for the government to send out politically correct instructions, waiting for government classes , nope completely worthless , I went through many government sponsored courses most if not all were completely worthless , Jungle training and mountain warefare training were outstanding , I was in phillipines and learned survival techniques for 2 days by and instructor then left in the jungle for 7 days , I ate it all ,made my water safe ,i survived , the samething in Korea in the mountains , I could do it now , my wife doesnt know a thing about survival but she could pick it up real fast , simple stuff like making fire or collecting water , if you think thats too difficult for the average man , you have no faith in humanity , how hard is it to read a compass? how hard is it to read a book about orienteering? Im pretty sure people bring a cell phone with them everywhere they go nowadays and they all have gps on them!

Nope I believe the simple things should be done , they dont need some instructor telling them, I dont believe an instructor is gonna walk them through the apocalypse!!!

Rick

09-05-2011, 11:15 AM

I dont believe an instructor is gonna walk them through the apocalypse!!!

Well what the.....? If there is no instructor then count me out of the apocalypse. I'll just stay home and watch a movie.

SemperFi

09-06-2011, 10:00 AM

I was gonna say , "I'll just stay home and watch THE movie"!!!

Beans

09-06-2011, 04:02 PM

Govt Directions

Green Side out
Brown Side out
Run in circles
Yell and shout

Semper Fi

H&KMP

09-08-2011, 05:34 PM

Ive always been a risk taker in my life , Marines Law Enforcement , hiking ,motorcycles whatever , I find it easier to read about a subject and try it out , alot of times people are put to the test without prior knowledge , should the average Joe try it out , yes I think he should ,if he wants to survive , sitting back and waiting for the government to send out politically correct instructions, waiting for government classes , nope completely worthless , I went through many government sponsored courses most if not all were completely worthless , Jungle training and mountain warefare training were outstanding , I was in phillipines and learned survival techniques for 2 days by and instructor then left in the jungle for 7 days , I ate it all ,made my water safe ,i survived , the samething in Korea in the mountains , I could do it now , my wife doesnt know a thing about survival but she could pick it up real fast , simple stuff like making fire or collecting water , if you think thats too difficult for the average man , you have no faith in humanity , how hard is it to read a compass? how hard is it to read a book about orienteering? Im pretty sure people bring a cell phone with them everywhere they go nowadays and they all have gps on them!

Nope I believe the simple things should be done , they dont need some instructor telling them, I dont believe an instructor is gonna walk them through the apocalypse!!!

yes, sometimes just being left in the deep end is the way to go, but... to each his own. You have to admit that some people wont make it. But it's good that u did!

SemperFi

09-09-2011, 12:30 AM

some people wont make it , thats life , thats how everyday life is , you cant save everyone , you can make an honest effort though to help your family and friends!

nilespathfinder

09-25-2011, 10:45 AM

going out in the woods and seeing what you got is a good test to let you know exactly what you dont know, thats what gramps did with me and my brother, heres your knife, canteen, blanket, and a prayer, you two boys know what you need to do, shut up do it and ill see you sunday boys, as he said to us friday afternoon as he walked away smiling, those hills in missouri have a way of scaring a 15 and 13 year old brothers. but we cried at night because of what we heared out there, and we made it, fire, water, shelter and found some squirrel. then sunday we found gramps following us back to the house, he was out there with us and we didnt even know it. i hated him for it, but i now love him for it.

edr730

09-25-2011, 12:07 PM

We've played similar games lots of times with families or just friends. Many times on purpose and other times we just got turned around a bit. I like to let people who think they have a "good sense of direction" take me back home...lot's more fun. My grandpa too would play such games. He'd make us pick a direction and that's the way we would go until he got tired of doing it. I've been turned around for 15 minutes countless times at night. Like, go through the big trees, follow the ridge, go down and follow the young pines that border the swamp....then...is that the edge of the swamp? Am I on the right hill? I'll walk around some to make sure about where I am. It's easy to get turned around now and then. I was scolded alot as a kid for daydreaming and not watching where I was going. I've learned to pay attention better. I'll go into, but have respect for large unfamiliar areas.

SemperFi

09-25-2011, 08:11 PM

we did that in the Marines quite a bit (non combat) , everyone gets a chance with the compass or navigation by any means you want , its amazing how serious people get all of a sudden when "all of us" are relying on you!!

hunter63

09-25-2011, 08:42 PM

I guess I would call that a planned adventure....getting turned around that is,......so far my experience has been a long walk back to the truck....yeah, sometimes in the dark.
I trust a compass/maps, have used one a long time, but I also trust the stars and paying attention to your surrounding always.

Rick

09-25-2011, 10:50 PM

+1 on the paying attention. I've done it and I've not done it. I fare better when I do it. Generally a lot better.

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