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Rick
01-31-2008, 09:19 PM
You are a minimalist and a good one. You've spent years in the wilderness and know how to take care of yourself and provide the essentials to keep yourself alive. So you've decided to test your skills.

You've determined that Alaska offers you the greatest skills challenge so you've spent a month learning from the best guides in the state. Raised by Bears has provided you with an excellent topo map and a pair of snowshoes along with some sage advice about the animals. Lady Trapper has educated you on the local plants and taught you how to snare and trap. You've found the best bush pilot in Alaska to fly you inland. Even if you die out here, the entertaining stories your pilot has told you will keep you company into the after life. Hopeak has finally dropped you off about 35 miles south southwest of Kobuk near the headwaters of the Selawick River.

It's late August and the last of the berries are in bloom. You're too late for the salmon runs but just in time for some surprise weather if you aren't careful. Here's what you have.

Your favorite knife, 3 pieces of flint, striker, tin of char cloth, small sack of pemmican, a compass, an unbreakable bottle for water and a metal cup.

You assignment, should you choose to accept it, is to make your way north to Kobuk where the Wolf Pack awaits your arrival. You'll have to cross at least one river. Meanwhile, the Wolf Pack discovered an interesting local drink called Eskibeer. We'll be running a study on it while we wait on you.

As you wave a final farewell to Hopeak and watch as he disappears over the next mountain you take one final stock of your supplies. What's this? Where is your striker? You glance up at an empty sky where his plane once was then back at your supplies. It must have fallen out of your deerskin sack onto the floor of the plane during that picture perfect landing. Now what?

Sam
01-31-2008, 11:16 PM
My Favorite knife is 1095 carbon, I got a striker.

Sam
01-31-2008, 11:18 PM
Besides I would like to volunteer for the beer study. Had enough snow in Norway to last my life twice over. BBRRRRURRRRR!

Sourdough
02-01-2008, 12:22 AM
Ditto on the Beer. Take the plane. Game over.

Sorry to report the pilot was trying to unwrap a Twinkie and flew into a radio tower, died with a Twinkie in his mouth. You are on your own..............

Stealth
02-01-2008, 03:20 AM
looks like we need to find some wood suitable for a fireboard, as long as you have your char cloth still, it shouldnt be too difficult to make a fire

Sam
02-01-2008, 03:56 AM
Wow, poor twinkie. ;)

Sarge47
02-01-2008, 08:11 AM
I never got on the plane 'cause I'm no "minimalist"; is "maximust" a term? Or is it "maxilist".:confused: I don't drink beer so I'm the designated....whatever.:rolleyes:

wareagle69
02-01-2008, 08:47 AM
yes lets have a moment of silence for poor old ri eer i mean twinkie as for going out late fall w/o supplies or shelter in alaska sorry dude i'm not from manitoba i would have tested my skills in early spring, if i were to participate in a scenario such as this i would experiment on familiar ground where i knew the game and the wild edibles and had a viable exit plan

i raise a toast to poor twinkie..

RBB
02-01-2008, 10:50 AM
You know, I didn't spend that much time in Alaska, and most of the time I was there I was working long hours so I didn't get out in the brush as much as I'd have liked to. Alaska is a big place, and I've only seen a small portion of it, but none of the portions I've seen were anything I'd care to bushwack 35 miles through - unless there was a river and a canoe involved.

Rick
02-01-2008, 11:18 AM
(headslap!) (shakes his head slowly and walks away)

Tony uk
02-01-2008, 01:38 PM
Can you chose to not accept it ?

Rick
02-01-2008, 01:45 PM
(thump!) (passes out completely)

trax
02-01-2008, 01:59 PM
as for going out late fall w/o supplies or shelter in alaska sorry dude i'm not from manitoba ..

Excuse me sir, but puhleeze do not be lumping other Manitobans in with TBWN...I am not a numpty, nor do I display numptiness in my day to day behaviour nor do I have any numptyish characteristics. As far as raising a glass to good ol' Twinkie, I agree, we'll miss him.

Rick
02-01-2008, 02:02 PM
(locks door to forum and gives key a fling)

Tony uk
02-01-2008, 02:09 PM
(locks door to forum and gives key a fling)

Opens the door, Explosive Style !

trax
02-01-2008, 02:31 PM
Opens the door, Explosive Style !

You know Tony, I don't mean to pick on you this time really I don't, but every time I read someone's postings about using explosives, and there've been a few mostly from younger fellas, I'm really tempted to set up some place out in the wilderness and give you all some simtex and caps, electric and non-electric...maybe some pillowpaks and some b-line...and just tell you all to go ahead and have fun.

If, after those of you who get back, get back, your friends tend to refer to you as "stumpy" or "cyclops" c'est la vie....

Rick
02-01-2008, 02:37 PM
I worked with a guy whose father had a scrap business. They would often buy things like old railroad cars and other odds and ends of steel and metal. They were lucky enough to win the bid on removing an old railroad bridge that was all metal and supported by a single concrete pillar in the middle of a creek. Holes were drilled and dynie mitey inserted and the whole thing when whump. Created a dandy little dust cloud but the old railroad bridge still stood. Soooooo many more holes were drilled and much more dynie mitey was inserted. They bought a lot of replacement windows in the nearby town but the bridge did come down. He answered questions with, "What?" for a while after that.

Sourdough
02-01-2008, 02:43 PM
Rick, Have you been in that area??? Why did you choose that location??? It seems the rubberized loincloth gang is not enrolling in your challange....Perhaps you should have offered them a case of Twinkies and a Keg of beer if they get out alive....Also you did not tell them they got deposited in a knee deep muskeg swamp and need to head East to that ridge, then North/West.

Rick
02-01-2008, 03:57 PM
The farthest north I've traveled is Fairbanks but I am aware of the Selawik National Wildlife Refuge. I just thought I'd put folks on the fringe because it is loaded with wetlands and marshes; something I thought I'd add in after the first few posts. I could have been really mean and dropped them along the Tagagowick River where there are really marshes. At least here they could have found dry land. But no one wants to play. So I'll just take my Eskibeer and go drink it by myself.

Sourdough
02-01-2008, 04:33 PM
And maybe that they don't want to play is a good thing. It shows that if we want to survive caution is the best plan of action. If you don't feel that you fully understand the risks, don't enbark on a challange. Sounds like good survival planning to me.

What is eeerie is that the lake I had the shrimp experience on is just 30 miles north of Kobuk up the Ambler River valley to the Noatak River. And what I did not tell you about the shrimp lake event is, we ate all our food as the month long hunt was over, and we were to be picked up. But the Beaver Aircraft lunched a cylinder and went down 20 miles away. Buy the time, (8 days later) They tried to extract us with a C-185 on floats the lake had frozen. We were looking at walking to Kobuk with no food, and having near nothing to eat for the last 8 days.

Assassin Pilot
02-01-2008, 04:38 PM
I would eat the plane with the pilot inside of it. Lets just hope it doesn't have a jet engine thats still hot on it. Talk about a stomach burn.....

Rick
02-01-2008, 04:43 PM
So you guys were up in Gates of the Arctic in the Schwatka Moutains?

Sourdough
02-01-2008, 04:52 PM
Yes, I love to brag about what good hunting I have had in the National Parks, Then I must disclose that the hunt was 1970 and it was so good we went back in 1971, (It was not a Park at that time). I' ve had a good life........

Rick
02-01-2008, 04:54 PM
Okay, makes sense. I was scratching my head for a minute. So how did you get out...or are you still there?;)

Sourdough
02-01-2008, 06:21 PM
[QUOTE=Rick;23437]Okay, makes sense. I was scratching my head for a minute. So how did you get out...or are you still there?;)[/QUOTE

They kept comming out every day, at their expense, 4 hours round trip from Bettles, Alaska, and they would soft land on the ice to break it up with the floats then leave. The ice was to thin for ski's and to thick for the floats, but they could use the keel of the floats to break up the ice, but could not land at 50 MPH as the ice would shred the aluminum floats. One day it was windy, they broke the ice, then went to a larger, unfrozen lake and waited two hours for the wind to push the ice to one half of the lake. What should have been one flight out turned into three, as they made three lighter trips to the larger lake, as our lake was reduced to half the original size, and it was a cross wind take-off.

Rick
02-01-2008, 06:28 PM
Let's see if I have all this. crash landing. Deserted in the bush. Dead animals that come alive while you are airborne. Outhouse with no door. Have you considered a nice home overlooking Puget Sound near Seattle? Maybe one on English Bay in Vancouver? You could take the bus in either town and the only animals on the bus will be....well, me, probably from a night on the town. But I don't bite....usually.

trax
02-01-2008, 07:57 PM
Outhouse with no door.

Ok, somehow I missed that part. If the outhouse had no door it shouldnt be a problem, you couldn't get in to begin with (Does a bear s*** in the woods? I suppose so, cuz I know I do! LOL)

Sourdough
02-01-2008, 08:56 PM
RICK, you missed the post about being stalked by a brown bear and me on my belly, between the bears forelegs. No harm came to me. But I was real clear who the "BIG" dog was.

AdventureDoc
02-01-2008, 09:38 PM
Not to bring it back to topic, but I have a good question to the group:

When do you rest up from the crash "trauma" and for how long? An initial burst to try to make your destination? A burst of energy to make shelter and get organized, for a few days? A longer camp in the area of the crash, using resources in the wreckage?

What is the timetable? how many days waiting at the crash site, for rescue? 2-3? Make a decent shelter takes a few days, only to have to leave it for a new area.

What is the first goal? Stabalization of the situation and a camp for a few days, stocking up on food and comfort or a dash for the goal?

Swede
02-01-2008, 10:39 PM
Well you could just walk south about a mile, then you'd be in Iowa and one of the friendly corn people would help you, of course you still could freeze to death!!!

Sourdough
02-02-2008, 12:12 AM
DOC, I am not sure I totally understand your entire question....? But this is the Bush Pilot Rule. Never take off, stay by the downed aircraft. If your ELT works correctly they should be there in 24 Hours, weather permitting. If your radio still works you can send on the emergency channel. Your required by law to have emergency stuff on board. Stay by the aircraft it is much easier to see a aircraft then a man.

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