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Winnie

07-14-2011, 04:35 AM

Before you all get excited......

I have finally got some of my Dad's tools. His Carpentry tools and General small hand tools are in fine condition, having been wrapped in oiled paper. Even after more than 10 years that stuff has kept most of the rust at bay.
It's his outdoor stuff that is the problem. It wasn't cleaned and oiled before storage and as a result there is a lot of rust.
Sooo what I would like from you most knowledgable men is, the best way to clean the rust off and prepare the tools for storage.
The list consists... Sickles, a Scythe, Billhooks, Slashers and I hope there's some of his Forestry tools when I can get to the other barn that the stuff is stored in. If there is, then there will be several weights axes, single and two-man crosscut saws, wedges, log splitters and lord only knows what else.
Please be aware this is a long term project as my access to power tools is limited to a drill, orbital sander, lots of elbow grease, some wire brushes and steel wool. I can get some attatchments for the drill if you think it's worth it. Some of the heavier stuff I may well send of to a machine shop to be cleaned.
Once cleaned up, I also want to sharpen the items that need it.... now here's the rub, I am, and always have been useless at sharpening stuffmy Dad always said I was the only person he knew who could take an edge off something), so if you could direct me to a good video that would be great. I'm not too bothered about the saws, I found a jig to sharpen them, although a vid to jog my memory would be most useful. I haven't been through both toolboxes yet, but I'm pretty sure there is a whetstone in there somewhere. Unfortunately I can't post pics at the moment, my Camera refuses to work.

Thanks in advance!

hossthehermit

07-14-2011, 04:48 AM

Winnie, I'd suggest a vinegar soak for the rust. You might also check out BladeForums.com for sharpening advice and vids, it's a huge site, with a lot of people that know a lot about most anything sharp. Good luck.

your_comforting_company

07-14-2011, 05:08 AM

There are some attachments for your drill that will help get that rust off. I'd stick with the less aggressive tools like the soft wire brushes or even the rubber flapper things (sorry, not sure what they're called). Be sure to wear a dust mask and old clothes, 'cause you'll get dirty!

crashdive123

07-14-2011, 05:49 AM

Winnie here are a few videos for you.

Removing surface rust from tools.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4Gi_4XVKvo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FscLwLZrk8g

Sharpening cross cut saws.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrYsFlx3OSY

Here's a crosscut saw manual.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/6054791/Crosscut-Saw-Manual

More crosscut saw info.

http://www.pcta.org/pdf/STUCHAP4_web.pdf

Winnie

07-14-2011, 07:22 AM

Thanks very much Crash, they look just the ticket. The outdoor tools are definitely restoration jobs! It broke my heart and I shed more than a few tears to see my Dad's beloved tools in such a state. I intend to at least get them in working condition again. I hope to give progress reports as I go along.

gryffynklm

07-14-2011, 08:35 AM

Winnie, congratulations on keeping the tools in the family. I have a small collection of restored hand tools (you can never have enough tools) and they are usually the ones I reach for first. Put up some pictures as you get them fixed up.

Good links Crash Thanks.

Sourdough

07-14-2011, 02:43 PM

What is that jelly for rust removal.......is it naval jelly.....?

crashdive123

07-14-2011, 05:20 PM

Yep - Naval Jelly (not to be confused with naval lint).

hunter63

07-14-2011, 06:03 PM

Congrats on a very valuable collection of your past.
I love old tools and try to use them when ever I can.
The job you are taking on seems to be large, but the rewards are great as well.

Tools are extensions of you and those before you, to create your world.
Those are some great sites Crash, thanks.

Winnie

07-14-2011, 06:27 PM

Yup, these are very special, some are Grandad's, making them circa 1910 onwards. I know it's going to be a big undertaking, but hey, a lot of these tools have survived one, and in a couple of cases, two World Wars. The least I can do is make sure they survive a little longer.

crashdive123

07-14-2011, 07:44 PM

Looking forward to seeing how they turn out.

edr730

07-14-2011, 08:49 PM

I use toilet bowl cleaner for removing the rust ....it's acid so clean it with baking soda and water afterwards then use oil. Razor scrapers to remove rust on flat surfaces like table saws etc. If a moving tools such as a pair of pliers is frozen, I soak it in water until I can barely move it and work it back and forth until it loosens up completely then oil it or rub it with canning wax and put it in the sun. Of course, wire wheels, sandpaper, your orbital sander work well too. Yep, it's dirty work.

JPGreco

07-15-2011, 10:23 PM

Didn't watch the video's and I'm not 100% sure how to do it, but I know there is a way to remove rust by basically submerging the item in a liquid and running a current through it.

Here ya go: http://www.secondchancegarage.com/public/electrolytic-rust-removal.cfm

Winnie

07-16-2011, 04:19 AM

I'm thinking of sending a few of them away to be treated electolytically, I afraid don't have the equipment to set up a tank of solution. And now I know what Naval jelly is, I was going to use Flux= phosphoric acid same active ingredient, I'll use that instead.

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