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woodsman86
06-17-2011, 01:21 AM
After years of complaints from soldiers, the black wool beret is being replaced by the patrol cap as the standard headgear worn with the Army combat uniform.

The more functional and comfortable patrol cap is now “the primary headgear for all soldiers as the duty uniform headgear,” according to a directive signed June 13 by Army Secretary John M. McHugh.

The black beret became standard headgear in 2001 at the order of then-Army Chief of Staff Gen. Eric K. Shinseki, who declared the beret would become “a symbol of unity, a symbol of Army excellence.”

But the berets have never been popular with soldiers. After becoming Army chief of staff in April, Gen. Martin E. Dempsey directed Sgt. Maj. of the Army Raymond F. Chandler III to talk to troops about their uniform preferences. Chandler heard from thousands of soldiers — in the field and through social network sites — who wanted to get rid of the beret as the standard headgear, according to the Army.

Dempsey, who has since been nominated by President Obama to be chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, brought the proposal to McHugh, who agreed to make the change effective Tuesday, which was the Army’s 236th birthday.

“The soldiers didn’t like the fact that the beret was hot — it was not something that they wore the majority of the time,” Chandler told the Army News Service. “And they didn’t like the fact it didn’t shade the sun and it took two hands to put on. And they didn’t like to carry two pieces of headgear to do different functions during the day.”

Many troops also believed that issuing the beret to all soldiers watered down the cachet of those earned by members of elite units, including the green berets worn by Special Forces, the black berets worn by Rangers and the maroon berets worn by Airborne. Army Rangers assigned to the 75th Ranger Regiment began wearing tan berets after the black berets were issued Army-wide.

One former Ranger marched 750 miles on foot from Georgia to Washington in 2001 to protest the change, carrying the black beret that belonged to a Ranger killed in the 1989 invasion of Panama. There was further outrage on Capitol Hill when it was learned that the Army berets were being made in China.

In the years since, the beret never became beloved. When the independent newspaper Army Times asked its readers recently for their thoughts on the subject, more than 300 soldiers of all ranks spoke out in favor of dumping the beret, the newspaper reported.

The black beret is not being eliminated and will continue to be worn with dress uniforms, the Army said. In addition, according to McHugh’s directive, “commanders retain the authority to prescribe the beret for special events such as parades or changes of command or responsibility.”

Soldiers who are authorized to wear the green, tan or maroon beret will continue to do so, according to the Army.

The Army directive also gives soldiers permission to sew their name tags and rank insignia on their uniforms, another change that was requested by troops, who disliked Velcro on their uniforms.

The Army is also planning a change for soldiers assigned to the Pentagon. Instead of wearing the digital-patterned Army combat uniform on a daily basis, soldiers will report to work in the more formal Army service uniform.

“Our perspective is that this is the corporate part of the Army,” Chandler told the Army News Service. “The business part of the Army is done in the Pentagon, and as a professional, there are certain standards of attire associated with certain activities. For the business aspect of the Army, it is the Army service uniform.”

The change could come as early as October, according to Chandler.

I for one am happy to wear my patrol cap again. They also authorized sewing on qualification badges, no more pins poking me in the chest. Hopefully, the ACU will be the next thing to go.
Old GI
06-17-2011, 08:55 AM
Having worn numerous colors of berets (OK, a long time ago), it was always the consensus that it is a totally useless cover. Used to find any excuse to change it to patrol or boonie hats.
Pal334
06-17-2011, 12:28 PM
Other than their ceremonial value, I always hated the Beret. USAF Security Forces are stuck with them. Could always tell who they are by the sunburn ring around their head. Patrol cap makes much more sense.
crashdive123
06-17-2011, 12:58 PM
Wasn't there a big brouhaha when the Army went to beret's for all because prior to that only Army SF wore them?
woodsman86
06-17-2011, 02:36 PM
It was the Rangers who were upset because the Army took the black beret from them and gave them a tan beret.
crashdive123
06-17-2011, 02:37 PM
Ah. I knew somebody got their knickers in a bunch over it.
wareagle69
06-19-2011, 09:14 AM
i was one of those who got my proverbial "knickers in a bunch" as crash so eloquently put it. haveing earned my tab and jump wings i felt it disrespectful to change the berets, RA should have gone tan and left the rangers alone. Now as for sew on patches we had them but i still have two tiny puncture marks on my chest from haveing my jump wings pounded into mychest upon graduating from jump school, man does that take me way back to another day and time(que karen carpenters classic song memories) lol
Sarge47
06-19-2011, 09:22 AM
It was the Rangers who were upset because the Army took the black beret from them and gave them a tan beret.
Could have been worse, the Army could have given them a pink one! :ohmy: I think the UN troops look like Wusses in those bright blue ones; should make for a good target! :m107:
canid
06-19-2011, 09:48 AM
it's part of the peacekeeping effort. it's hard to get mad at a guy in a baby blue hat.
Sarge47
06-19-2011, 11:43 AM
it's part of the peacekeeping effort. it's hard to get mad at a guy in a baby blue hat.

:thumbup1: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :thumbup1:
finallyME
06-20-2011, 01:39 PM
Sure, change it after I get out.
kyratshooter
06-20-2011, 06:07 PM
Ahhh, the "Monica".

I was always glad I missed the receint experimentation in clothing and headgear.

We had green fatigues and a can of spray paint (DIY camo), baseball cap and black boots. It could have been better but at least we were not wearing PJs and a Monica.
Old GI
06-21-2011, 08:58 AM
Hey I thought "blood wings" and "propblasts" were outlawed a long time ago (officially that is). I am still very proud of those little holes. Two for basic wings, two for senior and two for master. I would have been very disappointed if I didn't receive them that way and don't care what the bleeding hearts say.
woodsman86
06-21-2011, 09:44 PM
I received two for my cross rifles in basic training and two from my combat infantryman badge, that was '05 and '07. It is considered "hazing" now, but still lives on in some MOS's.
Winter
06-22-2011, 12:17 AM
Berets are not American headgear. That is all..
crashdive123
06-22-2011, 06:37 AM
They are for the Girl Scouts.....just sayin'.:innocent:
Rick
06-22-2011, 07:33 AM
and the French. 'Nough said?
canid
06-22-2011, 07:44 AM
Berets are not American headgear. That is all..

yes, but we can't have our soldiers wearing these in modern combat:
http://www.old-picture.com/indians/pictures/Indian-Head-Dress.jpg
Rick
06-22-2011, 10:27 AM
That's either a beer mug that's being misused or a pic from Possum Lodge. One or the other.
crashdive123
06-22-2011, 02:16 PM
Early version of binge drinking and lampshade wearing.
sapper
12-02-2011, 05:07 AM
the Australian Army still has berets SAS and Commandos still have them. They were the standard head dress for our Armoured and I was very proud to wear it for four years. The only thing for us to wear in our carriers. The Australian army recently put a ban on Armoured wearing the beret whilst allowing the other two regts to wear theirs and they are Regts not Corps. Well there is an almighty row happening here in Aust. The concenus is: they wear theirs, Armoured wear theirs or no-one wears the Beret. I found no problem wearing the beret and our bush is an awful hot place in summer.
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Beans
12-03-2011, 03:41 AM
the Australian Army still has berets SAS and Commandos still have them. They were the standard head dress for our Armoured and I was very proud to wear it for four years. The only thing for us to wear in our carriers. The Australian army recently put a ban on Armoured wearing the beret whilst allowing the other two regts to wear theirs and they are Regts not Corps. Well there is an almighty row happening here in Aust. The concenus is: they wear theirs, Armoured wear theirs or no-one wears the Beret. I found no problem wearing the beret and our bush is an awful hot place in summer.
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I aways liked the look of the "greenish/brownish" brush hat with the side turned up. Of course the USMC always wore " 7 point covers" in the field and when wearing Utilities after the DI/ Smokey bear style hat was no longer issued
southard
12-08-2011, 02:50 PM
Well the Corps just went no more rolled sleeves to go with no tatoos below the skivvie shirt sleeve. Kinder gentler, they were still "pinning" the blood strip and "securing your rank insignia while I was in although the former was done after formation at the bar and 1st Sgt did the latter when he shook you hand and the Skipper turned his back.
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