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Sourdough

06-11-2011, 07:18 PM

Is there any reason that I can Not put a Glock in a Zip-Lock bag and fill with new oil, burp the air out and lock for long term underground storage.........?

I embalmed two H&R firearms today (1) .243 Win. & (1) 12 Gauge in Arctic Grease. I have been packing knives, and tools in bearing grease also.

crashdive123

06-11-2011, 07:54 PM

My concern is that a standard zip lock would deteriorate over time (I assume the bag is going in another container like PVC?). Don't know if it would then become susceptible to moisture, or if the coating on the weapon would protect it enough. Maybe something sturdier than a zip lock?

crashdive123

06-11-2011, 07:55 PM

Swaddling it in an oil soaked cloth may alleviate some of the possible moisture issues too.

Sourdough

06-11-2011, 08:36 PM

Maybe an ammo can full of oil would be goooder, and I'll stick a 3" S&W Model-60 in to keep it company.

I figure if it is completely bathed/submerged in oil that there could be no air or moisture.

Pal334

06-11-2011, 09:14 PM

THere may be some possible damage to the handgrips. Probably would be still usable, just discolored and maybe swelled up? On the S&W Model-60 if they are wood

crashdive123

06-11-2011, 09:53 PM

Sourdough - thought this might be useful reading for you. http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=733603

Sourdough

06-11-2011, 10:20 PM

THere may be some possible damage to the handgrips. Probably would be still usable, just discolored and maybe swelled up? On the S&W Model-60 if they are wood

They have been replaced with Pachmyer.

Winter

06-12-2011, 12:21 AM

It's overkill SD.

Clean the item, oil it , and store it.

Any oil will erode plastics over time.

Talcum powder works well in flexible bags. I heard this, never did it. The physics sound right.

shooter_250

06-12-2011, 12:43 AM

Yes, I was concerned with the effect petroleum products would have on plastics over any extended period of time,,,even the ballistic polymers of a glock I think, would be effected

Lee

Winter

06-12-2011, 12:58 AM

Brother, IMO, it's gonna be better to have gun in hand than buried.

rwc1969

06-12-2011, 12:51 PM

In 100 years they'll be mining SD's property for guns.

glockcop

06-12-2011, 01:06 PM

I don't know about oil over time effecting Glock grips but they are supposed to be REALLY stable. I am with Winter in the thought of just clean it, oil it, and store it. The tennifer treatment on Glocks is some pretty wonderful stuff to inhibit corrosion. Maybe an ammo can with some baggies of moisture absorbing silicone crystals like the kind you get in the boxes of new electronics.

Sourdough

06-12-2011, 02:28 PM

I don't know about oil over time effecting Glock grips but they are supposed to be REALLY stable. I am with Winter in the thought of just clean it, oil it, and store it. The tennifer treatment on Glocks is some pretty wonderful stuff to inhibit corrosion. Maybe an ammo can with some baggies of silicone absorbing crystals like the kind you get in the boxes of new electronics.

The objective is not to simple "Store" it. But to bury it underground, in ground that get -35* in the winter.

glockcop

06-12-2011, 03:04 PM

The objective is not to simple "Store" it. But to bury it underground, in ground that get -35* in the winter.

Cosmoline? I dunno. That's a tough one. I think a heavy bearing grease would work. Maybe you can do a test on a piece of scrap metal and burry it in your preferred manner and check on it in a few mos/ a year/ or so.

kyratshooter

06-12-2011, 05:42 PM

This absolutely has to be the best ever thread on "best thing to do with a Glock"!!!

Sourdough

06-12-2011, 06:14 PM

This absolutely has to be the best ever thread on "best thing to do with a Glock"!!!

Figure to bury some 1911's also......... and a S&W M-60 3" .357 Mag. And a Sig Sauer P-556

LowKey

06-12-2011, 07:18 PM

How do you plan on getting them out of the -35° ground? That's a long time to wait to access a gun if you have to wait for spring...

glockcop

06-12-2011, 07:18 PM

I can come up with a few more "Best things to do with a Glock". Know what I mean? This could get interesting.

Sourdough

06-12-2011, 07:30 PM

How do you plan on getting them out of the -35° ground? That's a long time to wait to access a gun if you have to wait for spring...

NFS material can dig them up by hand. NFS (Non Frost Susceptible) All so known as sand. or pea-gravel.

shooter_250

06-13-2011, 01:48 AM

Who's waiting a hundred years...looking at metal detectors now, also searching for blonds with bass boats ..as a distraction while metal detecting

Lee

hunter63

06-13-2011, 10:48 AM

This absolutely has to be the best ever thread on "best thing to do with a Glock"!!!

I can come up with a few more "Best things to do with a Glock". Know what I mean? This could get interesting.

LOL, It has been kinda quite around here, but it sounds like SD ain't bitin'

Need a fresh cup o' joe..........Alright..... ready.....GO.

Sourdough

06-13-2011, 11:47 AM

I have been using Bar Oil..........for you city people Bar Oil is not a beverage, but is a very, and I do mean very sticky & thick oil used to lubricate chainsaw bars & chain loops.

hunter63

06-13-2011, 02:39 PM

I't also a real female dog to get out of the trailer's wood floor, when the top comes off a new gal jug.....It's got be the nastiest oil I can think off, so I bet nothing will get thru it...Sticks to everything.

crashdive123

06-13-2011, 06:01 PM

I don't know how readily available it is, but we used Tourmaline grease on submarines (probably through out the rest of the Navy too). That stuff held up to some pretty demanding conditions.

SARKY

06-13-2011, 11:46 PM

SD, Give Fluid Film a try. It is lanolin based not petrolium based. It won't harm wood plastic or metal and stays where you put it.

Sourdough

06-14-2011, 09:59 AM

SD, Give Fluid Film a try. It is lanolin based not petroleum based. It won't harm wood plastic or metal and stays where you put it.

Yes, this was suggested by a local person also. And is available in Los Anchorage. I have never used it but it sounds like a good product.

shooter_250

06-14-2011, 10:42 PM

I didn't even think of film fluid...Sarky's right..good stuff...Let us know what you decide on SD...probably a benefit to others as well.

Good Luck and God Bless

Lee

jgcoastie

07-03-2011, 10:18 PM

SD, I'm sure you have a vacuum sealer somewhere around your place, for prepping halibut and salmon for the freezer and such.

Would work a lot better for long-term storage than a zip-loc bag.

With a vacuum-sealed bag (preferably sealed twice on both ends for good measure) you really wouldn't have to store it soaked in oil. Just lube the metal parts up really good with your choice of lubes and seal it up real good.

I do this with the SP2022's (9mm) I have in my "oh-snip kit". I put on a real good, thick layer of Royal Purple ATF and bag both of them in vacuum-seal bags. Same with the ammo, sans ATF though...

Bushman

07-05-2011, 12:59 PM

wool fat boys.......wool fat........... !!

(otherwise known as 'lanolin')

being a Kiwi by birth I KNOW all about this stuff.....

sticks like **** to a wet blanket, and if you'veever been in a shearing shed you'll note that damn all 'rusts'......

plus with NZ being half cousin to Alaska (ask Winter) aka........theres a ****load of RAIN. The south west coast measures rain in 'metres' per year, not millimetres and most people just spray everydamnthing with Lanolin:dissolve:

Shalako

07-14-2011, 09:49 PM

I would be afraid that the oil would destroy the grips over time. The plastic bag would almost certainly deteroiate. Cosmoline is still sold. I would coat the plastic parts in a heavy coat of wax, Cosmoline the metal. wrap it in plastic, put in an ammo can. Run a bead of high qualitycauld around the rubber gasket on the can before you close and lock it down. After closing, run another bead around the seam where the top closes down-seal around the hinghes and clasp also. Spray the outside of the can down with several coats of bedliner.Wrap repeatedly in plastic.

RCKCRWLER

07-15-2011, 06:02 PM

Good idea Shalacko. I read that fluid film is pretty good too. SD how you planning on burying the ammo? I wish I had guns to bury...had to pay off gambling debt. :whistling:

Rick

07-15-2011, 07:03 PM

Well, he didn't have to but he's learned to love his kneecaps.

RCKCRWLER

07-15-2011, 09:08 PM

Well, he didn't have to but he's learned to love his kneecaps.:gimp::laugh::laugh:

Sparky93

07-15-2011, 10:00 PM

Theirs gold, er I meen, guns in them there hills!!!

xj2000

07-22-2011, 07:46 PM

People have done the vacuum seal method and later dug up bags-o-rust. With vacuum seal, you will never get all of the air out of the bag.

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