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WildGoth
01-29-2008, 05:56 PM
personally one thing that annoys me is that my age restricts my survival time and my ablitay to stock up for when SHTF cause the thing is that everyone thinks im crazy and things it is stupid to prepare for it :mad: it just really annoys me
nell67
01-29-2008, 06:05 PM
You can still practice wildgoth,and that is the number one most important thing,dont worry about what they think,who ya think they are going to come running to WTSHTF!!!!
See...we keep talking about TSHTF, it will really depend on what really constitutes the catastrophe and where a person is standing at the time. If I was in a major city, I would resort to looting in a heartbeat and that doesn't require a lot of training or resources. Geurilla fighting maintains that you arm yourself at the expense of your enemy.....
What I said about survival kits, the first thing you need is a real nasty attitude about preserving your own hide, because if you don't have that, you're no good to yourself or anyone else you might want to help. Attitude, attitude, attitude.....
nell67
01-29-2008, 06:11 PM
See...we keep talking about TSHTF, it will really depend on what really constitutes the catastrophe and where a person is standing at the time. If I was in a major city, I would resort to looting in a heartbeat and that doesn't require a lot of training or resources. Geurilla fighting maintains that you arm yourself at the expense of your enemy.....
What I said about survival kits, the first thing you need is a real nasty attitude about preserving your own hide, because if you don't have that, you're no good to yourself or anyone else you might want to help. Attitude, attitude, attitude.....
somebady ate the cornflakes this morning??LMAO!!:p j/k
somebady ate the cornflakes this morning??LMAO!!:p j/k
Nooo....that's pretty much the way I think all the time, I just cleverly cover up with a facade of sparkling wit and dry humor.....Yeah, I guess you're all just gonna have to trust me on the wit and humor part....
canid
01-29-2008, 06:15 PM
there is no age limit on survival, or on preparedness, only on some materials and equiptment.
it is at least as much about what you know how to do with what you have that would determine how you fare against what will most likely be an unforeseen emergency as it about what you have stocked up in your home.
what are your focuses in preparing yourself for an emergency?
nell67
01-29-2008, 06:16 PM
Nooo....that's pretty much the way I think all the time, I just cleverly cover up with a facade of sparkling wit and dry humor.....Yeah, I guess you're all just gonna have to trust me on the wit and humor part....
We trust you trax:eek::D:rolleyes:,LOL!
Sourdough
01-29-2008, 06:33 PM
Remember people have been digging'in for the SHTF for a long, long, long time. It might help to know the first time for me was when Nixon closed the Gold window in 1972.
We converted everything to Gold And 100 oz. silver bars, Staked a Homestead and beat'feet.
Assassin Pilot
01-29-2008, 07:47 PM
I'm, just waiting for it to happen. Why doesn't the USA just go attack every country, not just the ones that have oil....
crashdive123
01-29-2008, 08:06 PM
I'm, just waiting for it to happen. Why doesn't the USA just go attack every country, not just the ones that have oil....
Shame on you. I'll leave it at that.
Assassin Pilot
01-29-2008, 08:37 PM
Well one other way it could happen is an epidemic. If something went out of control in a lab or something, and started killing people like in sci-fi movies.
canid
01-29-2008, 09:41 PM
it dosen't have to get out of a lab, there are enough dangerous pathogens 'in the wild' so to speak to cause serious problems in any population-dense area. one more thing i try to keep in mind but not sweat too much, or i'd never sleep. it is a good reason for me to keep a HEPA scrubber and enough visqueen for a room on hand. i use them both anyway, so it's not like i'm specifically out anything for it.
Assassin Pilot
01-29-2008, 09:44 PM
Well generally they have most wild ones under pretty good control in developed countries. Unless, AIDs mutated in a way that it could travel through the air we breath (it can mutate easily, which is why it is hard to control). That would suck big time.
canid
01-29-2008, 09:54 PM
many of our pathogens have a nasty habbit of becomming multiple antobiotic resistant, which could cause serious havock in a large city or several before it was brought under controll.
Staph and Tuberculosis are good examples. only chance is keeping some of their strains from becoming epidemic in many areas, developed or not. community aquisition makes a particularly dangerous vector.
it is unlikely for example that a major epidemic of MRSA or VISA would be a large population killer, but think of the social impact, when people are afraid to interact. how that might affect a population's disposition?
AP - To continue with Canid's examples. West Nile virus is a continuing problem throughout the US in summer months and now Dengue Fever has made an appearance.
As temperatures warm we are seeing a shift of insect carried diseases spreading northward.
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/westnile/index.htm
http://www.cdc.gov/NCIDOD/DVBID/DENGUE/
Age is only a number, remember Dick Proenneke lived in the wilds of Alaska until he was 83.
RobertRogers
01-30-2008, 09:58 AM
See...we keep talking about TSHTF, it will really depend on what really constitutes the catastrophe and where a person is standing at the time. If I was in a major city, I would resort to looting in a heartbeat and that doesn't require a lot of training or resources. Geurilla fighting maintains that you arm yourself at the expense of your enemy.....
What I said about survival kits, the first thing you need is a real nasty attitude about preserving your own hide, because if you don't have that, you're no good to yourself or anyone else you might want to help. Attitude, attitude, attitude.....
I don't agree. Acting in this way is going to make you a target. Imagine making the mistake of looting from some of the members on this forum, for example. Or, inadvertantly looting from their friends and family. You may get away with it for awhile. But eventually you will make a name for yourself and will be a main target for elimination.
NOT a good solution.
Rather than planning on looting to survive, you are far better off to spend your energies planning how you are going to take care of yourself and those you care about without having to resort to looting, stealing, and cheating - and that includes how to deal with potential looters.
Additionally, when normalcy returns - and it will return eventually - what do you think is going to happen to the known hard core looters that are still alive? Prison. Firing squads. Retribution.
Karma. Otherwise known as "payback is a *****".
RobertRogers
01-30-2008, 10:01 AM
AP - To continue with Canid's examples. West Nile virus is a continuing problem throughout the US in summer months and now Dengue Fever has made an appearance.
As temperatures warm we are seeing a shift of insect carried diseases spreading northward.
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/westnile/index.htm
http://www.cdc.gov/NCIDOD/DVBID/DENGUE/
I agree. Here in northern NH there were never any ticks. Even the old timers had never seen them in the area. By about 1990 ticks had expanded their range northward - along with a variety of other species that only lived south of us - and brought with them Lyme disease.
We're also seeing a return of diseases we thought we had wiped out or had under control, including the plague, scarlet fever, oh many many others. (cough cough...excuse me...)
Homes wouldn't be on the list of where and what I'd help myself to RR,perhaps I should have mentioned that upfront and I did say that it was dependent on the situation. Nevertheless, your point is well taken, my question is...in the picture we've started to paint here, involving pathogens, how would we know that 'normalcy' would return or when? Doesn't matter about normalcy returning if you're already dead.
Global Warming is causing animals that live in warmer climes to migrate further, I saw a very informative Global Warming show on NatGeo that said the Armadillo has now expanded north as far as southern Kansas.
tracks
01-31-2008, 10:31 AM
WILDGOTH...there is no age limitation on self preservation. just remember what TRAX said it has a whole lot to do with attitude and a little about equiptment. Just think before you react and you'll do just fine.
WildGoth
01-31-2008, 04:14 PM
thanks guys for everything
AdventureDoc
02-01-2008, 09:45 PM
WG-- I am guessing that you are young? People don't think it's a good idea to be out in the bushes, alone or in a small group?
Your name is wildgoth...that doesn't sound like a person who listens well to "authority".
Have fun, play safe and wear a helmet. Get in over your head, train how you play and get lost. The best stuff I ever saw and learned was when I was in over my head. Go for it!
WildGoth
02-01-2008, 11:03 PM
ok i will start wearing a helmet lol :)
LarryB
02-02-2008, 11:46 AM
Got yer hard hat on? :D Wildgoth my friend, PLEASE, do NOT let your own friends and family deter you from what you believe in!:cool: At fifteen years of age I only had two friends, but both were like blood brothers. The rest of our friends had moved firmly into normality and regularity and cloneizational techniques buy that time. Those were some of the best years of my whole life. Just roaming the hills and valleys, creeks and wetlands like that, with my best buds, way back then.
Those who discourage you, do not know what you know about this stuff. Plus, they certainly do NOT know as much about it as we, collectively, here in this fine forum, know about stuff like SHTF and BoB's and SAK's and EDC's and long lasting power foods etc!:cool:
Keep true to yourself in this niche and in life in general and you may reap all the benefits, hopefully. We're all in this together buddy and we are on YOUR side, especially when the negative taught doubters out there try to save ya from yourself and all!:)
Chillin' in Canukland,
lb
Last Mohican
02-02-2008, 11:10 PM
My former step-son (ex-wifes son) whom I still help raise, just turned 14 yrs old on monday. I started teaching him about wilderness survival when he was just 3 yrs. old. He as a young teenager already has 11 yrs of practical survival training and experience. At 8 yrs. old he already knew very well what local vegetation he could or could not eat, how to fish using primitive techniques, trap hunt, build shelters, etc.
I have every confidence in him that if TSHTF, he would do well.
Learn, practice, learn more, practice more, etc, etc, etc.
CTracker
02-03-2008, 02:31 AM
... negative taught doubters ...
Aren't they called "Sheeple (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheeple)." :(
Diddn't a Wiseman once say
You try to walk a straight path in life,
When you look back you see where you have been.
Sounds like your on the right path. Stay True
Last Mohican
02-03-2008, 09:31 AM
I am going to have to use that term quite often, sheeple.
I always note the herd mentality of people as a whole.
I believe that during a catastrophe these "sheeple" can become destructive to not only themselves, but also others around them. A good example is post Katrina New Orleans.
I don't think you will find any sheeple here thankfully.
Sheeple - As opposed to what? A belief in some government conspiracy? Not bloody likely.
WildGoth - You might not like it at the moment (I never did) but your parents are still the authority figures in you life and will continue to be until you are of legal age. If they disagree with you about the need to prepare for some unknown event, then consider how you are approaching them with the need to prepare. If you are telling them the world is going to end and we are doomed to economic collapse and death by some dreaded disease then change your approach. Talk to them about the need to prepare for an earthquake, landslide, severe winter weather, tornado or whatever natural event is appropriate to your home. That's something they can certainly relate to. They purchase insurance on their home and car not because the know something will happen but because the believe it could. Skills and equipment, like a Bug Out Bag, is the same type of insurance.
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