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woodsman86

05-15-2011, 08:08 PM

It is interesting to see how some of our technology can affect the natural course of things. Good to know cell phones aren't killing bees though.

Are cell phones killing bees? That's been the question of the hour as of late—the notion that sticking your hand into a hive and dropping in an iPhone or an Android smartphone (ouch!) is the tactical nuke of beekeeping. Here comes a bit of a buzzkill: cell phones don't kill bees outright.

Can they muck up bee life? Yes.

For whatever reasons—nicely illustrated by Red Green and Blue blogger Jeremy Bloom—articles have been appearing around the Internet suggesting that the presence of a cellular signal somehow causes bees to start flying erratically before spontaneously taking a trip to that great, big beehive in the sky.

In actuality, bees are able to tell when nearby phones either make or receive calls. The bees start making "piping" sounds, which notify the rest of the colony that something disturbing is happening nearby. That, or it's time to swarm.

"The induction of honeybee worker piping by the electromagnetic fields of mobile phones might have dramatic consequences in terms of colony losses due to unexpected swarming," wrote researcher Daniel Favre, formerly a biologist at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology.

In his experiments, Favre noticed that no swarming took place, even when he let the phones run for up to 20 hours at a time. After the process was concluded, it would take hours for a bee colony to return to a "normal" state, or how the colony looked prior to the cellular experiments.

But are bees dropping dead mid-flight due to a cell phone call? No. Additional research into bees and electromagnetic signals has indicated that the presence of a strong signal over a prolonged period of time can inhibit worker bees' ability to find the hive. However, Favre notes that additional study is needed in this area to prove or disprove the finding.

"Further confirmation of the current results and their implications regarding a direct correlation between erratic honeybee behavior and mobile phone-generated electromagnetic fields would substantiate one more explanation for the "disappearance" of bee colonies around the world."

And some researchers just don't agree that cellular signals even have as much of an effect on bee life as they're credited with—especially in the case of Favre's study.

"It's an interesting study but it doesn't prove that mobile phones are responsible for colony collapse disorder. If you physically knock a hive, or open one up to examine it, it has the same result," said Sussex University's Norman Carreck in an interview with The Daily Mail.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2385406,00.asp

BLEUXDOG

05-15-2011, 09:13 PM

I have a wild hive about 15 feet outside my door and two cell towers across the street. My hive just had a swarm two weeks ago. Doesn't seem they mind the cell phone traffic or they would not have moved to the neighborhood.:tt2:

Rick

05-16-2011, 07:12 AM

I guess power lines and radio stations and tv stations and mobile radios and the cosmos must play havoc with them.

your_comforting_company

05-16-2011, 12:53 PM

I live across the street from the radio station. I have taken phone calls while out tending my bees. It doesn't bother them.

I am not a scientist or certified researcher, but I can say that none of the stuff mentioned above bothers my bees as much as the stink of shingles on my clothing.

I say BAAH-LONEY!

your_comforting_company

05-16-2011, 12:56 PM

They told us in bee class that there is no such thing as "spontaneous colony collapse". Either pesticides on something they've foraged, brood diseases, parasites, or other such items DO cause colony collapse (or they just move out). It's just not something that seems to be "spontaneous".

crashdive123

05-16-2011, 01:02 PM

It should also be noted that CCD has only been observed in managed hives. Maybe it's a bad manager.

I was watching a show on Discovery a while back were they trucked in hives to an area (don't remember where) to pollinate the groves. The semi's were loaded with hives. One operation lost about 500 hives in transit and didn't seem that concerned. I don't know what a company charges to truck hives around the country to pollinate crops, but I would think that having a Bee Keeper on staff and having your own hives (and subsequently a honey producing operation) would make more sense.

your_comforting_company

05-18-2011, 06:58 AM

I agree with crash on this. It's the management of colonies (of course, any time humans stick their noses in places that don't need "management" bad things happen..New Orleans anyone?) that seems to cause collapses. Some of the club members lost as much as 70% of their hives this past winter, with no apparent reason.

Pollination services are more viable income sources than honey production. A beekeeper from Atlanta came last weekend and collected the last of his migratory hives that he brought down in early spring (whatever spring is..) to build up populations. Overheating is a major cause of colony death, especially in transport; That's why most hives that are moved around are done at night when the bees are nested inside and the temps manageable. On the opposite side of that spectrum, bees can handle extreme cold much better than extreme heat, although winter temps (insufficient food storage spaces in the tree trunks) are what kills most feral hives. There are positives and negatives to both aspects. Managed hives have the advantage of being expandable.

Most of my keeper mentors agree that the bees know better what they need [to do] much better than we humans do. It's when we intervene with natures course that disaster happens.

Still, I don't think cell phones or microwaves have anything at all to do with CCD. At least my phone doesn't affect them at all, and I've not noticed any "piping" sounds from them. I often call my mentors while in the process of inspecting to relay info (since we dont have an inspection program in my state) and get suggestions. Being on the phone with a hive open does not make them more aggressive, or erratic. If you look at pictures of my beehives in that thread, you see the radio station in the background, so that isn't it either.

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