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BENESSE
04-18-2011, 06:08 PM
He's been kinda quiet as of lately, hope he's OK.

welderguy
04-18-2011, 07:14 PM
I guess he is still upset and doesn't want to post. Maybe PM him and ask.

BENESSE
04-18-2011, 07:16 PM
Can't imagine how I missed it.
What got his dander up?

RangerXanatos
04-18-2011, 07:17 PM
He has been on since then, but it was to copy some of the stuff he had posted before to place on another forum.

crashdive123
04-18-2011, 07:20 PM
Evidently I upset him. Didn't intend to, but based on his comments to me, I guess I did. http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?15906-Your-Opinion-of-Ray-Mears

BENESSE
04-18-2011, 07:32 PM
Well that's a durn shame.
Sorry to see decent people go, over what I think at least, are trivial matters. (in the scheme of things)

Aurelius95
04-19-2011, 10:13 AM
Lame. Maybe there's more to it than that. Poor Payne has been ridiculed pretty good, and he's still here (glad he's sticking around). OGL, come on back.

Rick
04-19-2011, 10:14 AM
It's sort of the nature of forums and "friendships" in general.

Aurelius95
04-19-2011, 10:38 AM
It's sort of the nature of forums and "friendships" in general.

Indeed. There are some who have been here for a long time, and have relatively few posts (me). There are some who have been here a long time and have a gazillion posts (Rick). And then there are some who never post, and those who only stay a short time and post like bunnies while they're here. Takes all kinds. Just like life.

BENESSE
04-19-2011, 11:49 AM
Here's what fascinates me in a dispassionate, clinical way: given that this is a virtual place with virtual people (except the handful that met each other) it's amazing how many of them are quick to take offense and exercise poor self restraint.
Is this a reflection of how they are in "real" life in a face to face interaction with others or does the cloak of anonymity give them the freedom to act out in the way they ordinarily wouldn't? I am just not sure.
But if I had to make an educated guess (and that's all it is), I'd venture to say that people's behavior here closely approximates their behavior in the real world--contrary to what one might expect. IMO, one can only suppress their true nature for so long before it reveals itself.

Aurelius95
04-19-2011, 12:08 PM
I agree with you, Benesse. I think people can get (over) excited very quickly, especially when it's a subject they are passionate about, and can fly off the handle. Happens in "real" life too. Take tennis, for example. It appalls me that some grown men act like they are 4 years old on the tennis court when they don't get their way, or when a call may not have been correct. Seriously, it's a game. Get it over it! We don't need any more "John McEnroe's" out there.

Who knew Bear Grylls could be so divisive? Only on a survival forum!

Rick
04-19-2011, 12:37 PM
I don't know. I like the act out thingie. I'm a pretty quiet guy in real life although you probably wouldn't know it here. Actually, I think it's probably a combination. Just depends on the personality.

canid
04-19-2011, 03:35 PM
i think several people where being childish and he lost patience. it'll probably return. i mean; you guys still put up with me and i've only got a sense of humor when i'm being a child :D

Rick
04-19-2011, 03:47 PM
We don't keep you for your sense of humor. We keep you because you're the only irregular meat sprocket we have.

your_comforting_company
04-20-2011, 12:02 AM
It's often very hard to convey tone in written language.

My grampappy used to say, "If you meet enough people, one of them is bound to p**s you off!". Apparently he met a lot of people. He seemed p-o'ed pretty often.

Rick
04-20-2011, 09:45 AM
Now that right there is funny I don't care who your. Thanks for the morning laugh.

BENESSE
04-20-2011, 09:49 AM
As Don Imus likes to say..."We're not happy 'til you're not happy", and I've known a few people like that.

rebel
04-20-2011, 09:53 AM
As Don Imus likes to say..."We're not happy 'til you're not happy", and I've known a few people like that.

I thought that was an airline quote.

roar-k
04-20-2011, 09:55 AM
I don't know. I like the act out thingie. I'm a pretty quiet guy in real life although you probably wouldn't know it here. Actually, I think it's probably a combination. Just depends on the personality.

The one time I met you, you weren't too quiet unless food was present......

Aurelius95
04-20-2011, 10:44 AM
The one time I met you, you weren't too quiet unless food was present......

Now that, there, is funny!

Rick
04-20-2011, 11:25 AM
Hey! I resemble that remark. (where's my ban button anyway?)

OhioGrizzLapp
04-20-2011, 10:49 PM
1. I am out of the hospital, taking it easy and pontificating various aspects of the business and the shows for the furniture demos.

2. CRASH in NO way or form ticked me off. Sarge did, I believed him when he said he would clear the bear grylis stuff. He dupped me, so much for being called a super mod....super nothing to me. I asked for a simple thing in that Ray Mears post and got fugged with by 2 real NOobs and a mod (Sarge) would not adjust as requested in that first post of that thread and as he stated he would later in the thread. I had no idea he was being an idiot, rather than a mod. I asked for nothing else, no more nor no less. I took him at his word as a mod, not someone who has a love affair with Bear & Equipment and Mora knives, I thought for sure a line NCO and a MOD could seperate personal loves and his job. He is either a mod or is not....act the part or give up the responsability, that goes for all mods of any forum.

The facts are, I was only going to try and help WSF by using a couple unpoisoned threads to promote the site while we are at our furniture and hiking stick making demos.

I hope this clears up the gossip and misconruations. I honestly will not be back here much, just here and there to copy some of my posts for a few other forums.

Ken
04-20-2011, 11:00 PM
OGL, I'm Ken. I've been "out of town" for a while, so we haven't met yet. Welcome to the Forums!

I'm President of the "Let's Ban Sarge Association." PM me and I'll provide the address where you can send monetary contributions to help our cause.

BENESSE
04-20-2011, 11:04 PM
Glad you're out of the dreaded hospital and back on home turf, OGL.
And welcome back to wsf, even if you're maybe not staying. I for one, will look forward to your posts if and when you feel like dropping by, letting bygones be bygones. Life's too short to dwell on such things but I understand if that's something worth dwelling on for you.
Here's to your health!

Sarge47
04-20-2011, 11:18 PM
1. I am out of the hospital, taking it easy and pontificating various aspects of the business and the shows for the furniture demos.

2. CRASH in NO way or form pissed me off. Sarge did, I believed him when he said he would clear the bear grylis stuff. He dupped me, so much for being called a super mod....super nothing to me. I asked for a simple thing in that Ray Mears post and got fugged with by 2 real NOobs and a mod (Sarge) would not adjust as requested in that first post of that thread and as he stated he would later in the thread. I had no idea he was being an idiot, rather than a mod. I asked for nothing else, no more nor no less. I took him at his word as a mod, not someone who has a love affair with Bear & Equipment and Mora knives, I thought for sure a line NCO and a MOD could seperate personal loves and his job. He is either a mod or is not....act the part or give up the responsability, that goes for all mods of any forum.

The facts are, I was only going to try and help WSF by using a couple unpoisoned threads to promote the site while we are at our furniture and hiking stick making demos.

I hope this clears up the gossip and misconruations. I honestly will not be back here much, just here and there to copy some of my posts for a few other forums.
I guess I can't come over for Christmas dinner now, huh? And I thought you were tough. Shoot, you let an old man get your goat? Enjoy the other forums, I'm sure they'll welcome you with open arms. It's your choice no matter what. :yes:

Sarge47
04-20-2011, 11:19 PM
OGL, I'm Ken. I've been "out of town" for a while, so we haven't met yet. Welcome to the Forums!

I'm President of the "Let's Ban Sarge Association." PM me and I'll provide the address where you can send monetary contributions to help our cause.
Send ME the money & I'll ban myself...if it's enough that is. :yes:

Alaskan Survivalist
04-20-2011, 11:41 PM
This is so unfair. Rick has derailed just as many threads in his thong as Bear Grylls ever did. Why didn't he ask for no thong pictures?

Sarge47
04-20-2011, 11:45 PM
BTW, OGL, I sent you some Rep for that last post...it was positive.

rebel
04-20-2011, 11:55 PM
OGL, I'm Ken. I've been "out of town" for a while, so we haven't met yet. Welcome to the Forums!

I'm President of the "Let's Ban Sarge Association." PM me and I'll provide the address where you can send monetary contributions to help our cause.

Ken's back? Yahoo!

Rick
04-21-2011, 06:01 AM
Just so there is no misconception, I was the one that banned OGL. No one has the right to come on here and start calling other members names. It's a violation of the rules. Banning shouldn't be much of a problem since he didn't want to come back here very much anyway. Only to take items to another forum? Cute.

Sarge47
04-21-2011, 07:47 AM
Just so there is no misconception, I was the one that banned OGL. No one has the right to come on here and start calling other members names. It's a violation of the rules. Banning shouldn't be much of a problem since he didn't want to come back here very much anyway. Only to take items to another forum? Cute.
I see you found your "ban" button. Now I suppose Ken won't be getting any $$$ from him towards his fund. Geez what an irate person. Bear Grylls really brings out the worst in people. G'bye OGL! :cool2:

Alaskan Survivalist
04-21-2011, 11:15 AM
I wonder what happened to the days when people could beat the hell out of each other, brush the dirt off, shake hands and be done with it. Why did that change?

BENESSE
04-21-2011, 11:32 AM
I wonder what happened to the days when people could beat the hell out of each other, brush the dirt off, shake hands and be done with it. Why did that change?

On account of I can't reach as far as Elizabeth City, NC.

Rick
04-21-2011, 11:50 AM
We are no longer neanderthals. You can contest someone's view without calling them names in the process. The rules are quite clear and specific. And if that weren't enough, we're going to take material from here to post in a competing forum?

Aurelius95
04-21-2011, 12:32 PM
I certainly don't expect people to agree with me all the time. But I expect them to do so in a way that isn't offensive or vulgar. Too bad people cannot be courteous to others' points of view. I guess I expect a certain level of maturity...

welderguy
04-21-2011, 12:44 PM
I wonder what happened to the days when people could beat the hell out of each other, brush the dirt off, shake hands and be done with it. Why did that change?

I think that happens when people grow up and become adults mentally.

Alaskan Survivalist
04-21-2011, 12:51 PM
I think that happens when people grow up and become adults mentally.

I hope that never happens to me. I think I prefer neanderthals, they aren't near as sensitive. Don't you see that you are doing the same thing only less direct. It would not be much of a stretch to see Rick implied I was a neanderthal and welderguy guy implies that I'm mentally immature. Probably right on both counts but what's the difference?

welderguy
04-21-2011, 01:02 PM
I hope that never happens to me. I think I prefer neanderthals, they aren't near as sensitive.

Ya know I've come to the conclusion that you can beat the hell out of someone and there still as stupid as before, so why waste my time, its so much more fun for me to play a battle of wits with them even if they are unarmed, than it is to open a can of whoop azz and be sore for a week.

Alaskan Survivalist
04-21-2011, 01:11 PM
Ya know I've come to the conclusion that you can beat the hell out of someone and there still as stupid as before, so why waste my time, its so much more fun for me to play a battle of wits with them even if they are unarmed, than it is to open a can of whoop azz and be sore for a week.

It seems to be more of getting it out of your system and moving on to me. Mentally or physically doesn't matter but things used to get settled which does not seem to be the case anymore. I'm not referring to OGL but just the general principal. Just trying to figure out how people think.

welderguy
04-21-2011, 01:29 PM
It seems to be more of getting it out of your system and moving on to me. Mentally or physically doesn't matter but things used to get settled which does not seem to be the case anymore. I'm not referring to OGL but just the general principal. Just trying to figure out how people think.

I understood that point, but with some people it does no good so why bother. And as far as on the forum if someone doesn't like me or what I said and they want to tell me I'm an SOB well that's fne just do so in a PM so the whole forum doesn't have to be subjected to there immaturity.

woodsman86
04-21-2011, 02:04 PM
...another one bites the dust...another one bites the dust...and another one gone, and another one gone...another one bites the dust

BENESSE
04-21-2011, 02:06 PM
We are no longer neanderthals. You can contest someone's view without calling them names in the process. The rules are quite clear and specific. And if that weren't enough, we're going to take material from here to post in a competing forum?

Evidently we are, or people wouldn't get admonished so often. We just have the benefit of not being able to actually act it out face to face.

Rick
04-21-2011, 03:26 PM
As for me I firmly believe my emotions are my own and my responsibility. You can't make me mad I can only allow myself to become mad. Now, couple that thought with the thought that if you have a problem with another man then you need to look inside yourself for the answer. If you call me an idiot, it isn't the name calling that makes me angry, it's my own thoughts about you calling me the name. I've been using these two thoughts for so long I rarely get mad at anyone over anything. I still mess up from time to time but it doesn't take me nearly as long to calm down as it did when I was say 20. I think the force is with me. Either that or it's just gas.

But the forum rules are the rules and this is one of the few forums around where you won't get beat down with vulgarities because you ask what's the best survival knife.

rwc1969
04-21-2011, 03:40 PM
Just so there is no misconception, I was the one that banned OGL. No one has the right to come on here and start calling other members names. It's a violation of the rules. Banning shouldn't be much of a problem since he didn't want to come back here very much anyway. Only to take items to another forum? Cute.

Well, I suppose I missed all the name calling, but I am sad to see OGL go. He was one member whose posts I enjoyed reading, he provided a lot of positive insight and real world stuff.

I hate to see you go OGL.

There really is a heightnened sense of immaturity that I believe stems from this forums moderators as a whole, not saying one in particular, but there ceratinly is a root cause to the problem. I come back here daily or at least weekly to see what's going on, and it's the same ole same ole. I always hope to come back and see a change for the better, but that day has not came. I thought it came a couple times before, but was quickly re-assured that the nonsense will prevail and good forum members will be driven away by ignorance and childish behavior.

As I've said before, that's unfortunate.








...maybe one day the stars will align, the waters will part, the sea will run red with blood, hell will freeze over, and a person who actually provides useful info and good adult converstation will cozy up and make this place home.

2dumb2kwit
04-21-2011, 03:42 PM
I wonder what happened to the days when people could beat the hell out of each other, brush the dirt off, shake hands and be done with it. Why did that change?


I hope that never happens to me. I think I prefer neanderthals, they aren't near as sensitive. Don't you see that you are doing the same thing only less direct. It would not be much of a stretch to see Rick implied I was a neanderthal and welderguy guy implies that I'm mentally immature. Probably right on both counts but what's the difference?

I think it's more of a case of some things not being appropriate in certain situations. This is a public place, with women, children, liberals, etc.

If you and SD wanted to have a farting contest while you two are sitting around a camp fire, 200 miles from the nearest road....that's kinda funny......in a church, not so much. Ok, wait...that would be kinda funny, but it wouldn't be appropriate! LOL

Do you get what I'm saying? It's like...I'd call Ken names, that I wouldn't even think about calling B, or Winnie. LOL

BENESSE
04-21-2011, 03:51 PM
That's how I think as well, Rick. I don't get mad too often; mildly annoyed at most, but hardly mad. Same with Mr. B--we're both very even tempered and it would take a lot to get us all bent out of shape. The worst we ever do is assume a tone which only we recognize as such. (Kinda like a sound that only pests hear and no one else.)

It surprises me though, that self restraint doesn't come a little easier to people who carry firearms which is all about self restraint and good judgement.

Justin Case
04-21-2011, 04:33 PM
I liked his posts also.......

Alaskan Survivalist
04-21-2011, 04:39 PM
I think it's more of a case of some things not being appropriate in certain situations. This is a public place, with women, children, liberals, etc.

If you and SD wanted to have a farting contest while you two are sitting around a camp fire, 200 miles from the nearest road....that's kinda funny......in a church, not so much. Ok, wait...that would be kinda funny, but it wouldn't be appropriate! LOL

Do you get what I'm saying? It's like...I'd call Ken names, that I wouldn't even think about calling B, or Winnie. LOL

I'm an old trucker...I'll match my farts against anybodies! If you like I could send you one in a zip-lock bag.

2dumb2kwit
04-21-2011, 05:11 PM
I wonder what happened to the days when people could beat the hell out of each other, brush the dirt off, shake hands and be done with it. Why did that change?


I'm an old trucker...I'll match my farts against anybodies! If you like I could send you one in a zip-lock bag.

That sounds like a job for "Quality control"......so you'll need to send that to Ken, or crash. LOL

kyratshooter
04-21-2011, 05:41 PM
All this and I missed it.

Some people just never learn. One thing about this place is that if you stick around you are going to get your share of abuse. It's the right of passage.

And the one sure way to ASK for trouble is to tell any of these guys what they can post in your thread!

Rick
04-21-2011, 06:39 PM
Thank you for sharing that, RWC. I don't happen to agree with you but thanks anyway. In fact, I found it pretty darned offensive.

rebel
04-21-2011, 07:17 PM
http://Well, I suppose I missed all the name calling, but I am sad to see OGL go. He was one member whose posts I enjoyed reading, he provided a lot of positive insight and real world stuff.

I hate to see you go OGL.

There really is a heightnened sense of immaturity that I believe stems from this forums moderators as a whole, not saying one in particular, but there ceratinly is a root cause to the problem. I come back here daily or at least weekly to see what's going on, and it's the same ole same ole. I always hope to come back and see a change for the better, but that day has not came. I thought it came a couple times before, but was quickly re-assured that the nonsense will prevail and good forum members will be driven away by ignorance and childish behavior.

As I've said before, that's unfortunate.








...maybe one day the stars will align, the waters will part, the sea will run red with blood, hell will freeze over, and a person who actually provides useful info and good adult converstation will cozy up and make this place home.

I've got to disagree with you RWC. I like our mods and think they do a fine job.

COWBOYSURVIVAL
04-21-2011, 07:27 PM
About our Mods...Well I'd challenge you to find a site that does attract the content this one has, first. Second I'll say the individuals you are referring to have taught me alot...Walk softly or carry a big stick!

Ken
04-21-2011, 08:10 PM
And let's not forget that the Mods often PM members about offending posts before they reach for the ban button. I suspect that some of the replies they get are so out-of-line that they're cause for banning all by themselves. Probably cause for a slap on the back of the head as well. Just sayin'.

Justin Case
04-21-2011, 08:17 PM
And let's not forget that the Mods often PM members about offending posts before they reach for the ban button. I suspect that some of the replies they get are so out-of-line that they're cause for banning all by themselves. Probably cause for a slap on the back of the head as well. Just sayin'.

This may surprise you all,,,,, but i have gotten a couple of those PM's :blush::2:

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