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payne
04-09-2011, 06:33 PM
Water is one of the main thing we need to stay alive.
Here are three situations, and I'd like to get your feedbacks on 'em as of how you'd find some alternatives in order to calm your thirst.

1) Desert
I already know following signs of life (birds, sounds, etc.) is a good way to find a source, but...
- Can we just dig and hope to find some spot?
- Is drinking our own pee an alternative? Mr. Grylls seems to think so, but as far as I've read on this website, it isn't a good idea at all. Anyone has a trusted source with scientific facts for this?

2) Sea, without any mean to make a fire
- Any good and fast way to separate water and salt? Evaporation looks like the only solution to me, but there might be others ways, or manners to accelerate the evaporation.
- Is drinking sea water that bad or can we do it without risk? Once again, you website seems to be contradictory with Mr. Grylls, which thinks an enema is the way to go.

3) Jungle, without any water flow sources nearby
Mention anything except collecting rain, vegetation's transpiration, and collecting dew. Or if you think there are some genius ways of applying the 3 things listed just before, please share.

Please do not restrict your answers to my questions. =)

EDIT: One additional question:
Our dear Mr. Grylls also thinks "rock-filtered" water doesn't even need to be boiled before getting drinked. Is he right?
Rick
04-09-2011, 07:00 PM
If you've read on this website then you've seen the scientific evidence for not drinking urine. It's been posted several times and a quick Google will net you all you want.

Suggest you read this:

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/chp6.php
payne
04-09-2011, 07:23 PM
Haha, those are actually exact replicas of the Army Survival Guide I've downloaded somewhere in this forum (I'm at page 63/443 at the moment; it's a very good read!).
I'm just wondering how comes Bear Grylls misleads viewers with this kind of "stunt". =/
Justin Case
04-09-2011, 07:26 PM
TV shock value....
payne
04-09-2011, 07:36 PM
TV shock value....
Ya, but this is about survival... someone could easily sue them for providing wrongful and potentially deathful tips to viewers.
Justin Case
04-09-2011, 08:02 PM
Survival uses
See also: Urophagia

Numerous survival instructors and guides,[18][19][20][21][22][23] including the US Army Field Manual,[24] advise against drinking urine for survival. These guides explain that drinking urine tends to worsen, rather than relieve dehydration due to the salts in it, and that urine should not be consumed in a survival situation, even when there is no other fluid available. In hot weather survival situations, where water is also hard to find, soaking cloth in urine (a shirt for example) and putting it on one's head can help cool the body.

During World War I, the Germans experimented with numerous poisonous gases for use during war. After the first German chlorine gas attacks, Allied troops were supplied with masks of cotton pads that had been soaked in urine. It was believed that the ammonia in the pad neutralized the chlorine. These pads were held over the face until the soldiers could escape from the poisonous fumes, although it is now known that chlorine gas reacts with urine to produce toxic fumes (see chlorine and Use of poison gas in World War I).[citation needed]

Urban myth states that urine works well against jellyfish stings, and this scenario was demonstrated on a Season 4 episode of the NBC-TV show Friends "The One With the Jellyfish", an early episode of the CBS-TV show Survivor and the documentary film The Real Cancun. At best, it is ineffective and in some cases this treatment may make the injury worse.[25][26][27]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urine
Rick
04-09-2011, 09:32 PM
It has nothing to do with survival. It has to do with ratings.
JPGreco
04-09-2011, 09:40 PM
Desert: You are SOL. You cannot just dig to find whater in the desert. Its way down if its there at all. Most of the time its not there.

Sea: I assume you mean at sea or on a small island. No fire means you need to make a solar still. Drinking it will kill you. Collect rain water when you can and if you are on an island, plants you eat can provide fluids.

Jungle: Well, if you're not allowing for collecting rain or water vapor, then your only hope is getting water from the things you eat, plants being the best source.
There are no genius ways to collect water from those sources, just simple ways that require a little bit of thought and attention.

Rock Filtered: If it truly is rock filtered, it is safe to drink as long as it's not flowing through toxic rock.
BENESSE
04-09-2011, 10:25 PM
Water is one of the main thing we need to stay alive.
Here are three situations, and I'd like to get your feedbacks on 'em as of how you'd find some alternatives in order to clam your thirst.

I'm partial to Pepsi, but RC cola would do in a pinch.
Just don't ask me to drink Kool-Aid!
Melissa Montana
04-10-2011, 02:07 AM
If you've read on this website then you've seen the scientific evidence for not drinking urine. It's been posted several times and a quick Google will net you all you want.

Suggest you read this:

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/chp6.php

That is not true!
I can come up with tons of websites from DR that say it can and has saved life's! We are talking once you have passed the pounding headaches and the delusions start....That is a sure sign that your about to perish if you don't hydrate somehow soon!
Winnie
04-10-2011, 04:32 AM
Urine is a waste product of the body, therefore it contains stuff your body has ejected.
Conserving water is key.


From US military Survival Manual FM21-76. Chapter 6 Water Procurement. Page 56 Quote "Do not drink fluids in figure 6.2. 2nd on the list Urine- Contains harmful body wastes. Is about 2% salt.
http://www.ar15.com/content/manuals/FM21-76_SurvivalManual.pdf

And to answer OP. There is no alternative to good ol' water!
Melissa Montana
04-10-2011, 05:15 AM
Yes Winnie it is a waste product.And waste is at the bottom of every stream or lake.And them particles are floating around.
The same Military manuals and i have all the hand me downs from my husband will tell you to also take salt when dehydrated.
Those are put there because the average soldier may not understand what is going on with there body so if it was put into there manuals some soldiers at the first sign of thirst would be drinking there own urine.
Now these scientific proof is by who?A group of Dr's?The same people that one minute tell you that taken an aspirin everyday is OK then the next its not.Or the same that take an oath to "Do no harm" yet they turn people away that need help because they don't have the right coverage.
Now there is a former SERE instructor on here that disagrees with me and that is his option and i respect that.
At the same time my husband is a former SERE instructor and would say in a pinch he would drink it in a heartbeat as well as some others.Some i guess are more in tune with there body's an what it is telling you.And to know when you are dyeing.
I have posted a Thread in the general chat with multiple links. To many people who have survived because they took that chance when there was nothing else.Is there any that report a person dyed because they drank there urine to get home or stay alive?
And I'm not talking about 3rd world country that bath in waste everyday of there life's! So the military manuals are just a "General rule".When it comes to getting back home alive to my children.......I'll drink the pee or eat the body IDK....What ever it takes.Survival is not some camping trip to me.....,but that's just me.
Winnie
04-10-2011, 05:45 AM
Well, I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree.

I still say, there's no alternative to good ol' water;)
LowKey
04-10-2011, 09:46 AM
has anyone peed into a solar still and drunk the condensate? (Not me, just askin...)
EX121
04-10-2011, 11:23 AM
Well let's see, In the Phillippines, there are a species of fig tree that I tapped, like a maple tree and obtained water from it. Also many vines gave water when cut high first then severed low. Also in Panama many vines gave water.
I have peed next a solar still in the Mohave desert and increased water production. Also in arid regions of Utah, Nevada, Idaho, etc.
I think those that drank their urine & survived where just lucky enough to be rescued soon after they did. althoughI'm not discounting a momentary relief the moisture may give to swollen tounge, etc.
Don't forget that a vegetation transpiration bags work whenever it is hot, just be cautious on which plant you use. i put one on a cresote bush one time and didn't like the taste of the water.
welderguy
04-10-2011, 11:33 AM
Well let's see, In the Phillippines, there are a species of fig tree that I tapped, like a maple tree and obtained water from it. Also many vines gave water when cut high first then severed low. Also in Panama many vines gave water.
I have peed next a solar still in the Mohave desert and increased water production. Also in arid regions of Utah, Nevada, Idaho, etc.
I think those that drank their urine & survived where just lucky enough to be rescued soon after they did. althoughI'm not discounting a momentary relief the moisture may give to swollen tounge, etc.
Don't forget that a vegetation transpiration bags work whenever it is hot, just be cautious on which plant you use. i put one on a cresote bush one time and didn't like the taste of the water.

Interesting info. Would like to hear more maybe in an INTRODUCTION.
Rick
04-10-2011, 05:21 PM
Sweeeeet! Me likey.
randyt
04-10-2011, 05:27 PM
Well, I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree.

I still say, there's no alternative to good ol' water;)

I don't mean to be contrary but beer is a awesome alternative to water.
Rick
04-10-2011, 05:30 PM
Uh, huh. And I'll bet whiskey keeps you warm in the winter, too, doesn't it?
randyt
04-10-2011, 05:32 PM
we are talking about sitting on the veranda enjoying the evening, right?
Winnie
04-10-2011, 05:42 PM
Well, if you put it like that, I have just recently disovered a new way to numb my knees and make my voice go funny. Place 2 shots Jack Daniels into a pint glass. Holding the glass at a 45degree angle to the pump, gently top up the glass with draught guinness, drink, voila! knees numbed
randyt
04-10-2011, 05:53 PM
see there, it's a great alternative <G>
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