Dakota Fire Hole [Archive] - Wilderness Survival Forums

payne

04-08-2011, 03:19 PM

How many times have you guys used the Dakota Fire Hole method?
I'd like some feedbacks on its feasibility and usefulness in a survival situation.

Thank you.
=)

Justin Case

04-08-2011, 03:28 PM

check this out ;) http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?13334-Dakota-Fire-Hole&highlight=Dakota

crashdive123

04-08-2011, 05:21 PM

Used it quite often. Works well. I think you need to get over your hang up on the phrase survival situation and describe exactly what you mean.

Rick

04-08-2011, 05:22 PM

Rarely use it. Don't really have a need to.

your_comforting_company

04-08-2011, 05:27 PM

Dakota fire hole and smudge pot work in similar ways. I've been intending on building myself an outdoor barbecue "hole" to use with some of my cooking rocks in such a way as the DFH works. With it's kinship with the smudge-pot, I would say I use it irregularly, and usually prefer a top-ground fire for light and heat. In a situation where you are using stealth, or just want to not be noticed, it would be a good substitute, making things like cooking easier, but sacrificing light and radiant heat.
It depends largely on the situation. Maybe if you describe the situation you have envisioned better, we might be able to weigh the pros and cons.

hunter63

04-08-2011, 05:50 PM

I haven't used it since we did one to see how it works, and it did work fine, but depending on what kind of dirt you have, just seemed unnecessary.
When evading and trying to stay concealed, I would suggest a "cold camp".......No fire.

Haven't really had to conceal anything, so a couple of logs set up in a >, ->(wind direction) work well with out a lot of extra work.

Camp fire (for a camp of several lodges or tents) we generally dig a square pit, turning the sod over along the edges extending the sides making it deeper.
Sod is placed back in hole when done with it.

gryffynklm

04-08-2011, 06:21 PM

I used one for the first time last fall at a rendezvous here in Wv. It was dry and windy with a strict fire ban in effect. We couldn't have a fire until the fire marshal approved each fire pit. I dug a Dakota hole with a sloped side away from the tunnel so I could pull some of the coals to a shallow cleared hearth about 12" by 24" for additional cooking space. I used the earth and some large rocks to form a wind brake and define the cooking area. The result was control of flying embers and a reduction in wood burned because I had more control over the burn rate with the fire out of the wind. When I was finished with the fire I removed the large pieces of wood and doused them and set a large Dutch oven over the fire hole and a rock over the fuel hole to smother the remaining embers. It left me some coals to burn the next day. Survival situation NO.

But in a survival situation in windy conditions it can be a great help in conserving fuel and reducing fire risk in dry conditions.

It would require more work, but you can build a similar fire above ground. This requires two things flat rocks and earth. Keep in mind fire heated rocks can crack and spall with enough force to cause injury. So don't take rocks sitting in a water source. I have used rocks from the edge of the high water line if there is one.

Anyway I stacked the rocks in a circle about 12" inside the circle I used I stacked them about 8" to 10" high and used earth to pack around the rocks on the outside 4" or so thick. I pre dug a trench 6" wide and 6" deep long enough to get into the center of the circle of stone for the fuel before I stacked the stones I ended up gigging the trench longer to accommodate longer sticks. It worked pretty good. It ended up being a damp weekend with mist and rain on and off. The idea was to prevent the fire pit from collecting water. It got muddy around the fire but we were able to cook and keep coffee hot.

Its not much but that my fiddling with a protected fire.

NCO

04-08-2011, 06:38 PM

Never been in a "survival situation" requiring a fire, hence no idea. I have never used the dakota hole thing.

payne

04-08-2011, 08:26 PM

Thanks for all your feedbacks. :)
I just wanted to size up in what kind of situations it should be used, and stuff like that.
I guess I won't use it often, but I certainly will try it once when I'll be comfortably camping and wanting a good cooking. :>

knuckledrager

04-08-2011, 10:26 PM

I use the Dakota fire hole as often as I can. The efficiency is great. Generally, the effort spent in digging the hole is less than the energy spent searching for and retrieving firewood in many areas. The fire hole helps "Leave No Trace. The fire hole is great for windy areas and in colder weather, the fire hole tends to warm the ground very well, but you lose a lot of radiant heat. If you suspended a space blanket over the fire hole, you can recover much of the radiant heat and direct it. If you dig the hole smaller than the diameter of your dutch oven, it makes an awesome cooking platform. Also, it seems like there is less smoke due to efficiency and the fire pit is difficult to detect from more and a few 10's of yards, even at night.

rwc1969

04-09-2011, 12:07 AM

I like it for cooking and situations where there isn't a lot of wood around, as it's very efficient and easy to cook over. I think it puts out a fair amount of heat given it's size.

crashdive123

04-09-2011, 06:15 AM

Hey there knuckledrager. How about dragging your way on over to the Introduction section and telling us a little about yourself. There's not much smoke there either. Thanks.

Reverend Greg

04-09-2011, 08:10 AM

Hey there knuckledrager. How about dragging your way on over to the Introduction section and telling us a little about yourself. There's not much smoke there either. Thanks.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
All of this....
You guys catch all of them...I don't see the post # any more ...I think.I'M going to try a DFH when I go out on the 28th...Ill let y'all know 'bout it.
(G)

crashdive123

04-09-2011, 03:03 PM

Can't slack off. I can't afford a cut in pay.

Supertramp

04-10-2011, 08:31 AM

we fooled around with these last year quite abit always thought it was neat but never thought i would "need" to use one until last fall on a fishing trip we had portaged way back in and it was crazy windy and we had brought steaks that we really wanted to eat day 3 as they had been frozen and now thawed and not cold so the Dakota fire hole saved the day -survival ? no but, we ate steak in the bush! i have a video of my boy with a DFhole in my lawn here http://www.youtube.com/user/supertramp71?feature=mhum#p/u/7/aw2F-cUQQpE

crashdive123

04-10-2011, 10:05 AM

Nice video. Cute kids. I loved the "Apparently he turned 8 this year".

Justin Case

04-10-2011, 10:08 AM

Awesome ! :) Thanks for sharing ,,,,

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05-22-2026, 02:07 PM

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05-22-2026, 02:08 PM

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