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Justin Case
03-25-2011, 11:47 AM
Hispanic and Asian population up 43%

WASHINGTON, March 24 (UPI) -- The Hispanic population in the United States grew rapidly between 2000 and 2010, to 50.5 million or 16 percent of the total, the Census Bureau said Thursday.

The number of people identifying themselves as Hispanic or as Asian grew by 43 percent during the decade, making them the fastest-growing groups.

There were 35.3 million Hispanics in 2000, almost one-sixth of the total population of 308.7 million.

In 2010, Asians were about 5 percent of the total, up from 4 percent in 2000. There were 10.2 million in 2000 and 14.7 million a decade later, an increase of 4.4 million.

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2011/03/24/Hispanic-and-Asian-population-up-43/UPI-18431301018203/#ixzz1HcuV7lry

BENESSE
03-25-2011, 11:50 AM
Them is us.

Rick
03-25-2011, 12:28 PM
Not much of a surprise there. Some foreign group has represented the largest growing group since the birth of the country. Right now, it's Hispanic and Asians. In 1800 it was Africans. By the early 1900s it was the Irish. Whatever group they are also feared and disliked by the "group" that's already here.

your_comforting_company
03-25-2011, 12:39 PM
Somebody has to do the work that seems to be beneath us americans.

canid
03-25-2011, 12:50 PM
Yep. And if nobody considered it an improvement in their circumstances, nobody would be willing. It's either immigration or waiting until compensation for all other work makes it look like a comparable option. Still, I've always thought garbage men should make more than athletes or actors, so you can imagine how I feel about some of our worst compensated jobs, and I sure don't mind doing them either.

DOGMAN
03-25-2011, 12:56 PM
Is this a headline from the 1700's?....Now we know what American Indians felt like. Imagine what their newspaper stories would have read like about the pale faced invasion!

Justin Case
03-25-2011, 01:07 PM
Is this a headline from the 1700's?....Now we know what American Indians felt like. Imagine what their newspaper stories would have read like about the pale faced invasion!

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LOL

aflineman
03-25-2011, 01:56 PM
Same was said about the Irish, the Vietnamese, and plenty of other immigrants. Just read some of the newspaper articles of the times. The parts of the world that have the largest population growth would naturally seem (at least to me) to be the group with the largest US immigration statistics. While some of what is done I don't agree with, we cant just close off out borders to LEGAL immigration. It is what founded this country after all.

Pal334
03-25-2011, 04:57 PM
Well,, I guess I was ahead of the curve, brought my wife back from Thailand in 1975. I am such a trend setter it seems :)

SARKY
03-25-2011, 06:52 PM
JC, look up the word invasion in the dictionary, Now take into account 1: the number of people illegally crossing our southern border, 2: the aid they get from their govt. to do this illegal act, 3: How it has damaged our economy. Seems to fit the definition doesn't it!

OhioGrizzLapp
03-25-2011, 09:13 PM
I will be very honest here....NONE of the up and coming populations bother me at all, does not matter what race they are. We are all EARTHLINGS, each one of us with our own daily struggles for existance. What makes us mad about it is....Our Taxes are being used for services to folks that are NOT like us.... us being LEGAL Citizens of the USA. That illegal citizen bends down 2500 times a day picking veggies, fruits, nuts etc....that person cleans the room we just paid $150 to stay in, that person just sewn the shirts. pants and jackets we wear.

There are NO longer $85,000 a year jobs for floor sweepers, bolt n nut attachers, headlight installers. Those jobs are now $28,000.........the rest of the system is catching up with that fact in the downgrade in prices for homes, buildings and property. The only out of norm industry is Oil/Petroleum, it has always been a windfall industry, even in really bad times. That out of norm falsly keeps prices for goods high.

These earthlings come to the USA to better themselves and they better themselves by what...........THEY WORK and they save their money.

I honestly shake my head when someone says they are OUT OF WORK and cannot afford living like they used to.....I have 110% proven that if someone wants to make a good living in the USA, you can. Sitting back and complaining that this race group or that race group took your job or your business.... WELL Suck it up BUTTERCUP.... Income is a moving target, if you do not keep up with that moving target and learn how to make money, then you will be sharing a cave with the other scorpians, snakes and insects......

Just because your job placing a nut on a bolt is no longer there and you say there are NO jobs for you to do that and blame that on Hispanics or Asians... BS... do what I did, find a need and fill it. Yeah so you were a plumber before, well giuess what, now you have to snip persimmons for a living.

Do not blame YOUR fears on a new set of race or a shift in population. YOUR own actions are to blame, not their actions. YOU are the problem, not them. If you want to make money in the USA, you can, if you want to sit on your dole and do nothing but bisch - moan - groan about your situation, you can, but do NOT blame someone else for the fact you cannot keep up with that moving target. As someone that I greatly admire once said..... LEAD, Follow or get OUT of the way !!!.........totally 100% your decision..... even if it is a health matter... you can rise up and laugh at it, I do every day....I should in fact be a dead man, long ago....DEATH does not want me because I would cause the same problems there, where ever there is, that I do here. When I wake up in the morning and my feet hit the ground, the devil says, Oh Fug, he's awake.

I see changing population percentages as potential customers, not as enemies or invaders.... Now, are there some EARTHLINGS I would rather not breath the same air as i do, yes, but hispanics and asians are not in that group. Will I cow tow to any group, no and will in fact push back if I am pushed, but not because of their race, but because they pushed.

The world around you is changing... either get on the ride and take it to the moon or fall off of it and lay there and blame someone or something else...either way...YOU are a part of it....

Ssgt_DimeBag
03-25-2011, 09:22 PM
I agree!
Its not who is here,Its how you came here and how your going to act while here.

your_comforting_company
03-25-2011, 10:09 PM
... And what about the Robots that have replace the workers in our automobile or other manufacturing industries? I don't hear anyone complaining about them.

OhioGrizzLapp
03-25-2011, 10:48 PM
Why would I complain about a Robot, as far as I am concerned, they free me up to bigger and better adventures......

Ssgt_DimeBag
03-25-2011, 10:49 PM
... And what about the Robots that have replace the workers in our automobile or other manufacturing industries? I don't hear anyone complaining about them.

Well I much rather have a robot that takes five mens jobs from the production line then thousands of illegals that come an take our tax dollars,then don't recirculate our money.
And bring more crime.
Soon we will even make robots to replace field workers!:whistling:

your_comforting_company
03-25-2011, 11:00 PM
From what I've seen, they recirculate plenty of it back at the liquor stores.. just sayin.

My point was, that we are not losing jobs to immigrants. I've not seen a single white boy pulling weeds in a cotton field, or picking corn, or tomatoes. It's beneath us now, and the only way it gets done is if "they" come here and do it, at least till they invent a robot to do it... Then the immigrants (legal or not) and more americans are going to be jobless and hungry.

You can't have it both ways. Either you want a job pulling weeds and putting nuts and bolts together, or you don't. Either way, it has to be done. We can hire them to do it for a fraction of what an american would accept, or make a robot to do it for us and then we all lose.

Ssgt_DimeBag
03-25-2011, 11:20 PM
From what I've seen, they recirculate plenty of it back at the liquor stores.. just sayin.

My point was, that we are not losing jobs to immigrants. I've not seen a single white boy pulling weeds in a cotton field, or picking corn, or tomatoes. It's beneath us now, and the only way it gets done is if "they" come here and do it, at least till they invent a robot to do it... Then the immigrants (legal or not) and more americans are going to be jobless and hungry.

You can't have it both ways. Either you want a job pulling weeds and putting nuts and bolts together, or you don't. Either way, it has to be done. We can hire them to do it for a fraction of what an american would accept, or make a robot to do it for us and then we all lose.

Well I do agree with most of what you say.
However I know plenty of farmers where it was school kids from the area that use to hold down the field work jobs.
I believe it was called "The summer job".
Now where did this go wrong?
Was it that we taught our kids to just be to lazy or did the Illegals take over there jobs?
It kinda like what came first laziness or Illegals and greed from the big company/farmer?
Now I see plenty of them "White boys" getting there summer jobs at places like Burger King.

FVR
03-25-2011, 11:55 PM
The Summer job went the same route as the Paper boy. Now adults in cars deliver papers that we as youngens did years ago. Your Comf. makes alot of good comments and honestly, you can always get a job if you want one bad enough. You just have to put your ego in check.

Problem is that you can't tell the diff. between the illegals and the legal citizens. It is kind of unfair as most see all hispanics as illegal. Small minded people. They are the same ones who don't realize that when an illegal does get paid, he spends the money and pays the taxes that you and I do. You can now bring up the health care, but that does not hold water. I know of many citizens who abuse the health care system.

My ancestors came from Italy, Russia, Ireland, and Scotland.

Have you heard the one about the........

your_comforting_company
03-26-2011, 08:02 AM
Was it that we taught our kids to just be to lazy or did the Illegals take over there jobs?
It kinda like what came first laziness or Illegals and greed from the big company/farmer?
Now I see plenty of them "White boys" getting there summer jobs at places like Burger King.
That simply reinforces my points. I think it's like my folks used to tell me, "We want you to have a better life than we did". Bull Crap. All that does is give our kids some false sense of entitlement. Is it laziness? I don't know, I can't speak for them, but I DO know that I teach my kids humility and hard work and my oldest son will be doing hard labor with me this summer.
Greed plays a large part in who gets hired. Show me an american who will work in a corn field in 120F heat, sweaty, stinky, and dirty, for minimum wage or less, and I'll show you an honest american. If it's gonna get done, someone who is viewed as "a lesser man" is going to be the one to do it. We (americans) think we should be making $25/hr to pull weeds. What poor farmer can afford that? U want to know why a box of cereal costs $5??... well that's why. A car that should by all rights only cost $5k costs you $35k because everyone in that factory thinks they should be making $60/hr.
No wonder The Robots are taking our jobs........


... you can always get a job if you want one bad enough. You just have to put your ego in check.

Problem is that you can't tell the diff. between the illegals and the legal citizens. It is kind of unfair as most see all hispanics as illegal. Small minded people. They are the same ones who don't realize that when an illegal does get paid, he spends the money and pays the taxes that you and I do. You can now bring up the health care, but that does not hold water. I know of many citizens who abuse the health care system.


And the college scholarship programs, medicare, medicaid, social security / disability... Need I go on? I can name at least a dozen people I know who are making a living off of doing NOTHING, right now. At least the immigrants (legal and illegal alike) are working for their keep.

(..I'll pass the soapbox now)
The robots are winning, 3:0

Ted
03-26-2011, 01:42 PM
Is this a headline from the 1700's?....Now we know what American Indians felt like. Imagine what their newspaper stories would have read like about the pale faced invasion!

I hear ya! Glad there not trying to kill us all, kick us out of our citys, sell our scalps, rape our women,....

Pocomoonskyeyes3
03-26-2011, 02:08 PM
From what I've seen, they recirculate plenty of it back at the liquor stores.. just sayin.

My point was, that we are not losing jobs to immigrants. I've not seen a single white boy pulling weeds in a cotton field, or picking corn, or tomatoes. It's beneath us now, and the only way it gets done is if "they" come here and do it, at least till they invent a robot to do it... Then the immigrants (legal or not) and more americans are going to be jobless and hungry.

You can't have it both ways. Either you want a job pulling weeds and putting nuts and bolts together, or you don't. Either way, it has to be done. We can hire them to do it for a fraction of what an american would accept, or make a robot to do it for us and then we all lose.
I have to disagree. At least around here anyways. I have TRIED to get jobs stripping tobacco, and some other "Farm related jobs". I was told "Sorry we have our farm workers already."(They were all "Mexican") Same thing with working Hay, and many other such jobs on or around the farm. I know of about 4 or 5 farmers that WILL NOT use anyone BUT "Mexicans".... even though the pay is the same. So it's not JUST that Americans won't do the jobs. It's that some won't hire anyone but "Mexicans". The people that have these jobs already have their mind set on WHO they are going to hire. I even tried working Cheaper than them...still same answer. Hard to get the job, when the people with the job won't let you have the job. Like Dimebag333 said I USED to do these same jobs when I was a kid. Today a kid couldn't get these jobs even if they wanted to....which sadly it seems most don't want to. Personally I wish the fine for each "Illegal alien" employed was $1,000,000 for the first offense mandatory. 5X that for the second, 25X that for the third, 625X that for each subsequent offense. Illegals would be unable to find a job then, IF this were enforced. They would have to come over LEGALLY or not at all. You have to make it NOT pay to hire them, to stop this problem. JMO

As for Robots.... I wish they were illegal. The last factory job I had we had them, and they were supposed to "see" obstacles in their path. I was almost ran over not once, not twice, but three different times by these Robot forklifts that were used(They were slower moving than humans operating forklifts). They only worked properly in about half of the factory.(The factory management was told this when they only had a few, They then bought several more.) A Mechanical loader was tried on my line. I loaded twice as many pallets as the person using the lift apparatus. Not to mention that it sometimes dropped the load posing a hazard that you had to constantly be prepared for, that was NOT present when you had a human doing the same job, WITHOUT this apparatus. Yeah, some robotic applications are more efficient, like precision welds, and they have their place/use. However I think that industries that employ them when they are NOT better, are in a sense, cutting their own throats. How many robots buy their products? How many robots actually "Stimulate" the economy? Unless the business is making robotic parts the answer is none.

Pocomoonskyeyes3
03-30-2011, 02:57 PM
LOL I got Negative Rep for my post above. I am assuming it is because of the first paragraph. Maybe next time let me know who you are, that way I can respond to you personally instead of bringing it out here for all to see. Let me expand on that paragraph....

You see I have tried since moving to Kentucky to get Farm related jobs off and on for about 9 years now. I have tried getting jobs like Stripping tobacco to make extra money. Also work in hay, and Cleaning out Horse stalls (Stable Boy/Groom). This is not something I say/said lightly. It is from years of trying to get these "Side jobs". Now it might not be this way in YOUR area, it is this way in mine. Many times I have been told this, "We have our 'crew' already" and it was almost always "Mexican Migrant workers"(Which I use loosely as some were from El Salvador, Guatemala, etc...) Most of these jobs only last a few days at most. ,Tobacco in the field has to be Cut and "spiked" when ready, then placed in barns to finish curing. Stripping Tobacco has to be done when humidity is right, or either moistened so the leaves don't crumble. Hay has to be gathered within a few days after cut, without getting rained on, so it does take some planning to do these jobs. For the Tobacco jobs my "Goal" was of course extra money. However for the hay, it was to save me money, as I was willing to work for hay (I have horses). In all this, almost every time it was the South of the border types who were chosen over me for these jobs 90-95% of the time. Very few times was it the regular American citizens that took these jobs. Almost every time, as a matter of fact it was what I Believe were Illegal Aliens, as most that are here legally try to get factory jobs which pay more.

In the Factory I mentioned above, one Guatemalan actually took 2 weeks off so he could go home, change his name and come BACK with a NEW Visa to work. He bragged about this, so it is not supposition. One week he was Jose' two weeks later he was Jorge' Different last name too. It showed on the work roster for job placement too. Same person, same type job, just different name. Although he manipulated the system, he did so legally.... not much I can say about that.

YOUR experience(s) may be different than mine, that's fine. I can only tell you what I see personally, or have proof that I can present. It is NOT supposition.... it is with MY experience that I have made these statements. I stand by them too. Funny that you didn't stand by your "negative Rep".

crashdive123
03-30-2011, 03:30 PM
Poco - you did not receive any negative rep. Only the mods can give out negative rep, and none of us did. I believe the rep you are referring to has a little black or grey box instead of a green one? That wasgiven by a new member, who has not yet posted enough to gain any "rep power" Green = positive rep, Black = neutral rep, Red = negative rep. The member that gave you the "black" box for rep was agreeing with you.

Pocomoonskyeyes3
03-30-2011, 03:36 PM
Poco - you did not receive any negative rep. Only the mods can give out negative rep, and none of us did. I believe the rep you are referring to has a little black or grey box instead of a green one? That wasgiven by a new member, who has not yet posted enough to gain any "rep power" Green = positive rep, Black = neutral rep, Red = negative rep. The member that gave you the "black" box for rep was agreeing with you.

OK My mistake.... For that I apologize. I had never received anything but green so I guess I made an incorrect assumption. I most humbly apologize to all for dragging up a dead thread, with incorrect assumptions.

Justin Case
03-30-2011, 05:08 PM
I have gotten a few of those grey ones too,, Not sure if they turn green later or not,, ??

crashdive123
03-30-2011, 06:28 PM
I have gotten a few of those grey ones too,, Not sure if they turn green later or not,, ??

Nope. The value they are assigned if for the time they are given.

SARKY
03-30-2011, 07:18 PM
Quite frankly, I don't give a rats butt where you come from, just so long as you come here legally and assimulate into our society.

huntermj
03-30-2011, 08:03 PM
My only question is how many are here legally. i have no problem with legal immigrants. Thats how half my family came here.

crashdive123
03-30-2011, 08:09 PM
I've posted this before. To me, the problem with illegal immigration is a simple one to solve. Legal immigrants should be welcomed with open arms.

1. Heavily sanction any employer that hires illegals - make it painful.
2. Immediately cut off all social welfare benefits to illegals.
3. Provide no medical care (other than emergency care) to illegals.
4. Do away with the anchor baby system.
5. Do not allow people in this country illegally to attend school.
6. End the practice of "released until deportation hearing".
7. Privatize the work visa program. Base those operations in the various countries outside the United States. The only way to obtain a legal work visa that has a very limited time frame (have to get a new one if you want to work longer) is to go to your country of citizenship to have it issued. As part of this system, no felons or persons that have previously been convicted of being in the country illegally will be allowed to obtain that work visa.
8. Violations of law (above misdemeanor) trigger an immediate deportation.
9. Actively secure our borders (fence, high tech, more personnel)
10. Make English the official language of the United States. If private business wants to provide (and pay for) multiple language instructions or processes that is up to them.
11. Federal government will enforce existing immigration laws.
12. Sanctuary cities, counties, states or organizations will receive no federal assistance. None. Zip, zero, nada.
13. Non-profits that provide sanctuary will lose their non-profit immediately. That loss will be retroactive back to the date that it can be proven that they provided sanctuary to illegals and continue for a minimum of five years past the time when it has been corrected.

There's probably more, but that is a start.

randyt
03-30-2011, 08:36 PM
Poco,

the reason farmers and such like using illegals is simple. It's about the liability, a illegal gets hurt or mad about something there's not much they can do. Typically all they can do is go back to mexico or move on to somewhere else. When I lived in your area illegal labour was pretty much unheard of, that was 25 years ago or so. a lot has changed.


On another note we are getting invaded, this comment has nothing to do with this thread or post, gotta read between the lines.

Melissa Montana
03-30-2011, 08:36 PM
Well i do know this much.
I worked in a western union for a bit and 90% of the costumers were sending there money to Mexico.
And i don't think its because they love spending $50 to send money for the fun of it.
So how is this recirculating the money?
And i agree with you crashdive.
And if you all look at your state constitution most if not all say English is the only language.

mosquitomountainman
03-30-2011, 09:20 PM
Crashdive 123 and Pocomoonskyeyes ... Well said!!!

mosquitomountainman
03-30-2011, 09:22 PM
Quite frankly, I don't give a rats butt where you come from, just so long as you come here legally and assimulate into our society.

Right on!!!!!

Winter
03-30-2011, 09:35 PM
Quite frankly, I don't give a rats butt where you come from, just so long as you come here legally and assimulate into our society.

This..

My family came here legally in 1903 from Wales. They did not come to be Welsh-American, they came to be American.

1917, Great granpappy Winter
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Granpappy Winter
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Winter
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Justin Case
03-30-2011, 09:40 PM
COOL ! I love old photos ,,,,,

Melissa Montana
03-30-2011, 09:47 PM
This..

My family came here legally in 1903 from Wales. They did not come to be Welsh-American, they came to be American.

1917, Great granpappy Winter
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Granpappy Winter
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Winter
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Amen!!!
I'll say it again......cuz the post told me to.lol
AMEN!!!!!

panch0
03-31-2011, 08:56 AM
I have seen a few things while working with "real" mexicans vs US hispanics or US white guys working for me pulling network cabling for our sub contractors. I know this is not a generalization by any means, just my experiences. Out of every crew we have 1 -2 highly skilled guys who make 12- 15 bucks an hour. The rest are under that or minimum wage. The minimum wage positions are usually filled by the Mexican Americans and the white fellas. They are the biggest complainers, alot of them have stolen teachers property while working after hours. I have had to get rid of some guys for smoking on school property. I have problems with both of those groups having to many piercings or dressing up like thugs to work. They work slower and don't seem to care about learning, which is why they are at the lower end. We some sometimes get good ones and they end up leading crews or become foremen. Now the real mexicans just work hard for the most part and usually make more cause they perform better. I asked one what he did in Mexico and he said a Math teacher for high school. The only thing holding this legal resident was his horrible english, but he still made a decent wage. Again this was just my observation, at my workplace. When I see the USA hispanics trying to be mr thug it is kinda embarrassing to me cause thats the bracket I fall into. Good help is hard to find nowadays and alot of Mexican fill that need and others in Mexico see this and can't wait for the paper work to get done and come here illegally. They are by no means perfect, and there are plenty of bad apples here and we need to get them outa here. I don't see why we can't controll the boarders better, it boggles my mind. We really need to know who is in our country!!!!!!! Once upon a time in Texas a bunch of white guys came over and were welcomed in and the rest is history.

Rick
03-31-2011, 08:20 PM
I worked in a western union for a bit and 90% of the costumers were sending there money to Mexico.
And i don't think its because they love spending $50 to send money for the fun of it.
So how is this recirculating the money?
And i agree with you crashdive.
And if you all look at your state constitution most if not all say English is the only language.

You're attempting to apply micro economics to a macro economics situation. All the dollars do come back to the US in the form of exports.

Money sent home whether it be to Mexico or any other nation raises the standard of living and increases their discretionary spending. It also means they won't be coming to the U.S. because they don't have to. If you follow the money trail up the chain you'll find that it comes right back to the U.S. through goods purchased.

BENESSE
03-31-2011, 08:29 PM
You're attempting to apply micro economics to a macro economics situation. All the dollars do come back to the US in the form of exports.

Money sent home whether it be to Mexico or any other nation raises the standard of living and increases their discretionary spending. It also means they won't be coming to the U.S. because they don't have to. If you follow the money trail up the chain you'll find that it comes right back to the U.S. through goods purchased.

Be that as it may, the big question is (and I don't know the answer) whether the cost of illegal immigrations outweighs the benefits of money trickling back to the US, higher standard of living in Mexico and less desire to rough it illegally in the US. My guess is that the cost of illegal immigration is entirely too high to offset any benefits.

Winter
03-31-2011, 08:30 PM
Rick, our manufacturing is mostly moved overseas, so how do you figure that?

Everything in mexico says "Hecho en USA"

Justin Case
03-31-2011, 08:30 PM
@Rick,,, they send them the money to give the Coyotes to bring them here.. ;)

hoosierarcher
03-31-2011, 09:51 PM
Today in the news they said that the population of India had increased well above the world wide average. Maybe it didn't increase as much as thought Maybe they just got better at counting them? Same thing here is possible as well. Asians means from anywhere in Asia including India; but Hispanics means Latin Americans. The only reason that concerns me is that for every family that comes up here looking to make a better life for themselves there are an equal number of criminals that just want to gang bang and make a quick buck anyway they can and be feared by all. I am not a hater of immigrants illegal or other ways. I am just anti criminal. I think anyone in their right mind would be.

Winter
03-31-2011, 11:39 PM
I gotta correct a discrepancy. It is American born "Mexicans" who are 99% of the latino/hispanic crime.

"mexican Americans" are a huge threat.

I had a boss when I was working a pawn shop who sold hay. He would only hire real Mexican men.

He said" These guys are the only workers who will work their *** off all day in 95 deg in jeans, flannel short, and a cowboy hat."

I'd like a whole crew of Mexicans but I wouldn't hire anyone who claims a hyphenated -American.

Melissa Montana
03-31-2011, 11:45 PM
You're attempting to apply micro economics to a macro economics situation. All the dollars do come back to the US in the form of exports.

Money sent home whether it be to Mexico or any other nation raises the standard of living and increases their discretionary spending. It also means they won't be coming to the U.S. because they don't have to. If you follow the money trail up the chain you'll find that it comes right back to the U.S. through goods purchased.

Well I'm sorry i just don't see that.
The whole point of moving jobs to Mexico was to cut down cost an in the end save the American costumer.
How is this when a car used to cost 25,000 now cost 45,000 in just 15 years?
Then did they buy American cars?No they bought German cars.
The Beetle is the king of rides down there.
And to better there self?
Well i remember my grandpa telling me not to drink the water down there and that is still true today.
So either there not bettering them selfs or just don't give a crap about there health even after 50 years.

I don't see where letting in Illegals is helping us out in the long run.

Melissa Montana
03-31-2011, 11:55 PM
I gotta correct a discrepancy. It is American born "Mexicans" who are 99% of the latino/hispanic crime.

"mexican Americans" are a huge threat.

I had a boss when I was working a pawn shop who sold hay. He would only hire real Mexican men.

He said" These guys are the only workers who will work their *** off all day in 95 deg in jeans, flannel short, and a cowboy hat."

I'd like a whole crew of Mexicans but I wouldn't hire anyone who claims a hyphenated -American.

I so disagree with you.
There was a report from an Idaho sheriff in that state alone,the report said the the rise in crime was do to illegals.
In fact the report said 80% of there crime was illegals.
Ummm is ganglands wrong in saying most of MS13 are here illegal?
What does south of the border have in trade?
Drugs? The cocaine cowboys,pot and thats about to be taken away because to many states now allow pot consumption in there states......so no more dirt weed!
Please someone tell me what does Mexico and south America have other then drugs that we trade for?
No not sugar.....thats in Florida.....No not bananas thats in the Islands.
And please don't say sweat shops because the post above already explains my views on how we in the end are still paying out the butt for cheep labor an illegals.
Every time minimum wage goes up so doesn't everything else .....even a can of corn.

Winter
04-01-2011, 12:09 AM
May be a reality discrepancy.

The reality of my farmer Vs the reality of your cop buddies.

South Americans make the best machetes and and Gaucho knives.

Corn and the economy..where to begin?

randyt
04-01-2011, 06:57 AM
My brother is a court interpreter. I'll ask him who's involved in the crime.

randyt
04-01-2011, 12:22 PM
I talked to my brother, he lives in west kentucky. He's involved in the court system and in his opinion based upon his experience most crimes are caused by illegals.

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