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doug1980
03-16-2011, 12:10 AM
I've been making bowls like crazy here lately. It's very rewarding and brings in some money as well. My neighbor and I are making bowls for the Eagle River Knife Company and decorative bowls that we sell on our own. The only problem is waiting for them to dry. We had to make a homemade kiln to speed up the process. Waiting several months per bowl just wasn't cutting it. Now we can dry a bowl in 2 days. The process starts by selecting the wood. Most of the bowls I turn are birch that I get for free.

Here's what the slab looks like before turning.
http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/188549_10150425160790252_667405251_17824277_712711 4_n.jpg

Then the roughing begins. The wood is very easy to turn when wet, but to avoid warping and cracking I have to leave at least 10% of material on the bowl. This only takes about 30 to 45 minutes.

Roughed bowl ready for drying.
http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/196929_10150425970830252_667405251_17832941_677527 2_n.jpg

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/197013_10150425974620252_667405251_17832979_276695 1_n.jpg

After 2 days in the kiln the bowl is ready to be final turned and sanded. This can take over an hour, depending on how fancy the bowl will be.

Here's a typical bowl for Eagle River Knife Company.
http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/200037_10150415458380252_667405251_17719864_511603 7_n.jpg
MidWestMat
03-16-2011, 12:54 AM
You turning those on a lathe?
doug1980
03-16-2011, 01:51 AM
Yup a Craftsman 15" Bench Top Lathe.
Sourdough
03-16-2011, 03:28 AM
Looking Good. What do you seal them with if they are to be used for food........?
crashdive123
03-16-2011, 05:56 AM
Very impressive work Doug. Looks excellent.
Rick
03-16-2011, 07:46 AM
That's a nice job. Very cool.
crashdive123
03-16-2011, 09:11 AM
Doug - not having done any wood turning on a lathe - do you have to get the starting piece cut a little "rounder" before you start turning it? Seems like the oblong shape would be a little dangerours to start turning.
Justin Case
03-16-2011, 09:59 AM
Very Cool Doug ! :)
Pocomoonskyeyes3
03-16-2011, 10:52 AM
Not really meaning to answer for Doug, but I know most wooden kitchen utensils are sealed with Olive oil. It has some antibacterial qualities/properties, which makes it safer for eating/cooking.

Great work Doug!
hunter63
03-16-2011, 11:23 AM
Very cool, do you have a pic's of some that are completed?
Or is that it pictured?
doug1980
03-16-2011, 11:54 AM
Looking Good. What do you seal them with if they are to be used for food........?

I use peanut oil, but olive oil would work just fine too.


Doug - not having done any wood turning on a lathe - do you have to get the starting piece cut a little "rounder" before you start turning it? Seems like the oblong shape would be a little dangerours to start turning.

Most of the time we do knock the corners off, expecially on thicker pieces. This one was fairly shallow and I was lazy. Having the tailstock on the piece takes most of the danger out of it though.


Very cool, do you have a pic's of some that are completed?
Or is that it pictured?

Here are a few decorative bowls and the last one on the right is a standard wood bowl.

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/163895_10150379289550478_500070477_16500446_210385 1_n.jpg

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/167241_10150386078575478_500070477_16610925_472306 0_n.jpg

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/9df99741.jpg
Rick
03-16-2011, 12:35 PM
Doug - Both peanut oil and olive oil can go rancid. They won't kill you but they smell and taste awful. You can use food grade mineral oil or beeswax. You could use walnut oil or almond oil but some folks have an allergy to nuts. Coconut oil could also be used. Warm the oil then apply it in the direction of the wood grain. Allow it to dry for 5 or 6 hours then reapply. Depending on the wood you will need four or five coats of oil. You'll also want your customer to know what you've used because they will need to re-oil the bowls periodically.

You've done some beautiful work, by the way.
hunter63
03-16-2011, 02:10 PM
Thanks for the pic's, mighty fine work there, really like the one with the real dark grain on light wood.
doug1980
03-16-2011, 03:03 PM
Doug - Both peanut oil and olive oil can go rancid. They won't kill you but they smell and taste awful. You can use food grade mineral oil or beeswax. You could use walnut oil or almond oil but some folks have an allergy to nuts. Coconut oil could also be used. Warm the oil then apply it in the direction of the wood grain. Allow it to dry for 5 or 6 hours then reapply. Depending on the wood you will need four or five coats of oil. You'll also want your customer to know what you've used because they will need to re-oil the bowls periodically.

You've done some beautiful work, by the way.

Yeah I never really thought of the peanut allergy. I have tried the beeswax, but didn't like how it turned out. Thanks for the info, sounds like you know a little bit about this. :) And thanks for the compliment.


Thanks for the pic's, mighty fine work there, really like the one with the real dark grain on light wood.

Thank you. Those unique ones are hard to find. Gotta find a good burl to get patterns and colors like that.
1stimestar
03-16-2011, 04:21 PM
Oh beautiful!
Rick
03-16-2011, 04:31 PM
I don't know squat about making bowls but I've made a lot of wood stuff back in the day. Cutting boards were what I used the mineral oil on.
JPGreco
03-16-2011, 08:07 PM
I'll be honest, at first I was like WTF bowls? lol

But very nice work. I've wanted a lathe for the longest time for all sorts of things. Bowls never even crossed my mind. How much do they sell for if you don't mind me asking?
doug1980
03-16-2011, 09:42 PM
I'll be honest, at first I was like WTF bowls? lol

But very nice work. I've wanted a lathe for the longest time for all sorts of things. Bowls never even crossed my mind. How much do they sell for if you don't mind me asking?

Well the ones I make for the local knife company I get a flat $50 each. The decorative bowls vary by size and species. Anywhere from $50 to $150 each. I've made a few serving platters and will be making cups and coblets soon too. Plus I'm still making knives to sell as well. Maybe I'll be able to quit my job soon :)
doug1980
03-17-2011, 07:33 PM
Finished this one late last night. Put three coats of dark walnut oil on it.

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/a22e69e0.jpg
canid
03-17-2011, 07:52 PM
that's some fine work. a lathe is high on my list of priorities, but i'll need a dual purpose variable speed setup if i'm going to do wood turning, since my primary interest is in machining.
doug1980
03-21-2011, 11:16 PM
Made a small candy dish last night.

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/DSC03135.jpg
MidWestMat
03-21-2011, 11:32 PM
Nice work.
crashdive123
03-22-2011, 02:56 PM
Great work Doug. I think you've found your new calling.
doug1980
03-30-2011, 11:22 PM
Finished another one last night.

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/da0bb78b.jpg

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/d0a8d182.jpg
Winter
03-31-2011, 12:30 AM
Love it. Want one.
doug1980
04-06-2011, 05:39 PM
Got a couple more done today since I had to stay home with my son.

This one checked more than I expected, but I was able to turn it albeit very carefully.
http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/DSC03188.jpg

This one was going to be a salad bowl, but I ran into rot so this is what I ended up with. Has one clean side though.
http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/DSC03189.jpg

Clean side
http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/DSC03190.jpg
crashdive123
04-06-2011, 05:48 PM
They look great to me.
doug1980
04-06-2011, 06:03 PM
Yeah I just hate the cracking. I had to use epoxy to fill some that went all the way through. Still fun to make I spose.
1stimestar
04-06-2011, 06:57 PM
Finished another one last night.

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/da0bb78b.jpg

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/d0a8d182.jpg

Such a beautiful glow.
Rick
04-06-2011, 07:04 PM
Pretty snazzy, Doug. You do some nice work.
Ssgt_DimeBag
04-06-2011, 09:56 PM
Very nice work!Reminds me of my grandfathers woodworking skills.
NCO
04-07-2011, 09:23 AM
Great looking bowls. Heart rot on birch is always a nasty surprise.
On the oils, Poppy oil and Canola oil are what we mostly use for dining/kitchen products like bowls and cutting boards.
Alternatively you can always apply 3-5 coats of oil with 6h intervals and then put 3-7 coats of beeswax on it with 1h intervals making sure you wipe any extra of before applying a new layer. Give the last layer a good polish and your bowls will shine. (You might want to consider at least 2000grit sanding on the stuff you want to shine; both before and after the first oiling, but not after waxing.
rwc1969
04-08-2011, 01:19 AM
This is the first I've seen of this thread Doug, very nice work. Some of those bowls have really nice grain and patterns.
doug1980
04-08-2011, 03:19 AM
Thank you everyone. I just finished this bowl tonight. Well I still have to flip it on the lathe and cut the tennon off. It's special to me because it was the first bowl I ever turned. I roughed it out several months ago and set it aside to dry (the long way.) I put it in a cardboard box and covered it with wood shavings. A very slow technique for drying bowls, but dries it more gradually so it doesn't check as much. It's my favorite.

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/untitled.jpg

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/untitled2.jpg
crashdive123
04-08-2011, 06:58 AM
That's awesome Doug. I can see why you seem to be hooked. Your very first project is beautiful and professionally done. I look back at some of my firsts, and it's a wonder why I stuck with it.:blush:
Rick
04-08-2011, 07:01 AM
That's an heirloom piece if you ask me. Something you hand down to the kids and their kids and so on. That's beautiful.
finallyME
04-08-2011, 11:09 AM
Amazing Doug. So, does the Knife company give you a pattern that you have to follow, or do you just make it the way you want?
doug1980
04-08-2011, 11:16 AM
Amazing Doug. So, does the Knife company give you a pattern that you have to follow, or do you just make it the way you want?

He provides the blanks in varying sizes and species, I just have to turn it out. Those bowls are made to be used with an Ulu, so the inside must match the arc of the Ulu. Other than that I can make it as plain or as fancy as I want. I am going to be doing some segmented bowls for him soon. Those will be very pretty bowls.
cbr6fs
04-08-2011, 09:21 PM
Absolutely fantastic work.

Quick question please, how do you attach the bowl to the lathe?
doug1980
04-08-2011, 11:32 PM
Absolutely fantastic work.

Quick question please, how do you attach the bowl to the lathe?

Several different methods. When I first mount the blank I screw on a faceplate.
http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/188549_10150425160790252_667405251_17824277_712711 4_n.jpg

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/DSC03192.jpg

After the outside of the bowl is shaped and I've made my tennon, I flip the piece over and mount it to my chuck.
http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/DSC03181.jpg

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/DSC03193.jpg

I can then hollow out the inside. Then it gets removed and dried. After that I do the finally shaping, sanding and finishing then I have to remove the tennon. For that I mount the bowl to my jumbo jaws.
http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/bc013e84.jpg

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/f8f88eb9.jpg

I can then remove the tennon and sand the bottom.
Sourdough
04-09-2011, 01:16 AM
Doug, Can you imagine a lathe with a Headstock the size of your entire garage........?
doug1980
04-09-2011, 01:32 AM
No but it sounds fun.
pgvoutdoors
04-09-2011, 01:35 AM
The one I had to make in survival training didn't look like that...

Great job, nice work!!!
cbr6fs
04-09-2011, 06:33 AM
Great work, great pics, great explanation.

Thank you.
crashdive123
04-09-2011, 06:45 AM
Hey thre cbr6fs. How about turning your way on over to the Introduction section and telling us a little about yourself. Thanks.
Aurelius95
04-12-2011, 11:42 AM
Awesome pics, Doug! Great work, and it looks like a lot of fun.
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